Ednite:


Ethiopia is the birth place of coffee and it's the #1 product we sell to the outside world, it's a backbone of our economy. Maybe thats why we take coffee seious

Okay, I get it now. What is it with Ethiopia and holy herbs? I also know there's a lot of 'weed' there that grows naturally alongside coffee which also grows naturally. Thats blessings, coffee and weed were introduced here.

Nowenuse:


Kenya is not as big and diverse as Nigeria. The single and stupid state govt (Borno state) were the cause of what the whole Nigeria suffered. They failed to alert the Federal govt about this issue when it started from the scratch, not until it has escalated and Boko haram had had a very strong base in one of the forests in the state (Sambisa forest).
Although, we may not blame Borno state 100%. That state is the largest or 2nd largest state in Nigeria and has some of the deepest and most vast forests and terrains in Nigeria. It is also the gateway to Chad, Sudan e.t.c Travelling across the length of Borno state can take up to 10-12 hours. That's to tell you how large the state is.
To worsen the case, our Nigerian army, security intelligence e.t.c is all centred in Abuja (a day or 2 days journey from Borno state).

So you are trying to say Alshabab is a child play to Boko Haram...
1.Alshabab were controlling a country and not astate
2. They were fighting against Somali forces plus Amison troops..meaning they were more stronger
3. They had access to the sea (Kisimayu ) meaning they could get any artillery they wanted.
4. They had better finances from pirates, Charcoal export and sympathisers across the region.

I believe Alshabaab were stronger than those Bokoharam

DonnieTheGreat:

Baba you are obsessed with Habeshas o. We know they are beautiful. But cool down .Northern Ethiopia is just one flight flight away.

Btw,
Earlier in the thread you said Kenyan men marry Habesha women. Can you post some photos of some kenyan/Habesha couples?.

Also,
here is an Instagram page showcasing the best of Habeshian beauties
https://www.instagram.com/habeshaqueens/?hl=en

Thanks me later.lol

Are you Kenyan? Then you will understand the power of kula kwa macho. I've done a lot of that here with those photos. I will thank you right now ! Thanks

Maduawuchukwu:


The region of Boko Haram which is the north-east is a very vast region with many parts having little or no people and no government presence. It is like the Pakistan tribal belts and it is at the border area with our northern neighbours;borders which are not secured or enforced.

Seriously, Nigerian govt must do something about that North-east region. It is just too vast and it has the lowest population density. It is also the gateway and roadway to the middle east. Security must be strengthened there.

If you ever enter some interior areas in the North-east, you will wonder if you are still in Nigeria. The only good thing about the North-east is that about 1/3 of them are christians and are very much flexible and opened up, that's why, even as rural and infrastructurally terrible as that region is, they still have a higher literacy rate and lower poverty rate than North-west (Hausa-fulani homeland with 90% muslims).

DonnieTheGreat:
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Yeah, i read that you guys export a lot of roses too> i really dont understand. Ethiopia is the second most populous country in Africa after Nigeria. But your GDP is just $60 billion. What exactly is responsible for the relatively low GDP.

Also,
Do you listen to this guy? - Amir Dawud - Kealo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zSQCYhvtg

I couldn't open the video. . .

we have no oil. . .
we have no port . . .
our population is very big . . .
not surprising to have a low GDP

TayserMahiri:



Are you Kenyan? Then you will understand the power of kula kwa macho. I've done a lot of that here with those photos. I will thank you right now ! Thanks

Gratitude Acknowledged,
No baba am Nigerian. And you must translate "kula kwa macho". I hope its not what am thinking..

TayserMahiri:


Okay, I get it now. What is it with Ethiopia and holy herbs? I also know there's a lot of 'weed' there that grows naturally alongside coffee which also grows naturally. Thats blessings, coffee and weed were introduced here.

oh yes, but heard about the 'weed' for the first time

naijalander:
There you go...

Many Kenyans are liars who are masters at fact twisting. I have clearly observed this here. Although i clearly understand. They don't want their little ego bruised.
Everyone knows the influence these Indians have on Kenya's economy.

Nigerians see oil as a curse, how do you think Nigeria stayed on top before the discovery of crude in the Niger Delta?

You don't what your talking about, if the Crude dries up today (which we are all praying it does), you'd be surprised how quickly things will shift. It's not rocket science, Kenya explored those options cos it did not have crude oil type of money, you'd be surprised how quickly our so called tea industry will die out the moment crude oil comes in commercial quantity.

But really I don't pray y'all go same route we did if that ever happens but odds are you probably will.

MtuMsuper:

You see, kenyan economy does not depend on one commodity after another in a cycle that says we move from this to that to the other. That thinking is for Gabon, Nigeria, Angola which are oil fixated and derive the vast majority of govt revenue from oil and gas. See what your friend in travel section affirmed, that he was amazed kenyans have done all thus without oyel but tea and flowers.

The shining new baby in the agric sector is the milk sector. The fishing industry is undergoing a mini revolution too. There is also a new attempt by various governors to develop their competitive advantage. Do you know for example the efforts Kisii county is doing to make it a center for medical tourism? Joho is trying to modernise fishing in Mombasa.
Kiyana, dont stick in Nairobi and say you know kenya inside out. Me , a living kenyan is always discovering new things about my country. Things are never static and changes and new additions all over the place. You, the foreigner in our midst should also do the same and update. Kenya is not the simplistic narrative you want to weave.

Ednite:


yes, they're always in the side of Ethiopia

So, this means most Tigrinyas in ET have been speaking Amharic for decades and have been ruled by Amharas?

What abt the Tigrinyas of ER, do they speak amharic too?

Ednite:


I couldn't open the video. . .

we have no oil. . .
we have no port . . .
our population is very big . . .
not surprising to have a low GDP

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I understand now, so thats why Coffee is your major export and it also explain why there is always a huge population of Ethiopians and Erithreans in high caffeine consumption regions of the world such as Scandanavia.

Also,
i think it would be great if your government or rich individuals built large refineries to help oil rich african nations like Nigeria and Angola refine their crude oil. Am sure the Gdp would obviously double.

If Dangote(Richest man in Nigeria) can build a refinery am sure the government of Ethiopia can build multiple refineries?

Don't mind them living in their little shells thinking they can make compare their country to Naija. Mind you their first major highway Thika - Nairobi was only built in 2012. Not sure when Mombasa - Nairobi highway was built but it's older than Thika highway.

They can only make all this noise because they have a smaller population to cater for, dem think say 180m people na beans.

Nowenuse:


Many Kenyans are liars who are masters at fact twisting. I have clearly observed this here. Although i clearly understand. They don't want their little ego bruised.
Everyone knows the influence these Indians have on Kenya's economy.

Ednite:


You tot of it that way because there was this annoying somali nairalander named 'Axum'. The kingdom covers horn of Africa and Somali might be part of it. But the famous Axum stalaes are still standing in the northern part of Ethiopia

Yes i think u are correct. I will try to study more about that empire, but i'd like to know, which tribe exactly was in charge of the empire?

naijalander:
Ok seen.

Now, consider that Nigeria has like 20 Brookside type of business who mostly produce powdered milk because most of milk comes from the North, Southern cattle rearers mostly do it for meat production.

And isn't it funny you saying Adenuga and Dangote are rich cos of govt patronage yet the Kenyatta family own literally half of Kenyan land, in fact there was a time it became popular saying that Kenya was named after them (calm down I know Kenyatta means burning spear [I think]). The Kenyatta family own the largest share in Kenya's real estate market. So you calling out Adenuga and Dangote over govt patronage is double standard, Kenyan businessmen, escpecially Kikuyu tenderpreneurs enjoy a boat load of patronage and you know it.

Lastly, Brookside rose because of govt patronage after all it's not like the Kenyan economy is any more diversified than Nigeria's, before oil was discovered in Turkana, what else could they have invested in ? Tourism was already saturated, and coffee cartels were never going to be bullied so it only makes sense milk was the next choice and I must admit, they did a pretty good job with that maziwa

The name Kenya is a Kamba word that the British adopted. 'Kinyaa' is what Kambas called Mt Kenya
Kenyatta named himself after the country, not the other way around.Kenyatta's original name was Johnstone Kamau and he changed his name to Kenyatta after the British had Kenya as a name.
Looool!!!Kenya's economy is BY FAAAAAAAAAR more diversified than Nigeria.Nigeria's exports are dominated by one commodity and one commodity alone.Oil.
Kenya is a major exporter of a wide variety of agricultural products to Europe ,Asia and the Middle East while it exports manufactured goods to the EAC and COMESA region.
Our largest trade partner is Uganda.We do not export tea or coffee or horticultural products to Uganda.We export manufactured goods!! Same to Tanzania, our third largest trading partner
As for milk production, Nigeria does not match up to the countries that had colonial settlers and have a temperate climate. South Africa is the largest producer of milk on the continent, followed by Zimbabwe then Kenya.
The climate of Nigeria does not allow for the keeping of pure breed high yielding cows, Zimbabwe and South Africa have a temperate climate and so do the highlands of Kenya.You cannot compete. Your climate cannot support the keeping of 30 liter a day producing Guernsey and Fresian cattle as is the case in Central Kenya.
We rarely produce powdered milk.I have never consumed powdered milk in my life!!Although KCC does produce powdered milk, they export it mostly
Kenya is a milk exporter.Both UHT and powdered milk is exported to Rwanda,Turkey South Sudan and the likes.Nigeria IMPORTS milk, even from Kenya in powder form.
And who told you Kenya's milk industry is a Brookside monopoly
Brookside is the largest in terms of milk production, but Kenya has over 40 milk processors, the vast majority being owned by Cooperatives.
Brookside is the largest in milk production, Yes, but it is easily matched by KCC,A Government parastatal that has over 10 factories, as compared to Brookside's four.
Others are Sameeer AgriculturaL,(Makers of Daima), Delamere,Eldoville, Kilifi Gold,Limuru Dairies, Githunguri Dairies, Mariakani Cooperative Society,Meru Cooperative, Bio Foods LTD,Kiabanga and Kinangop Diaries. A few multinationals like Nestle also have contracts with farmers in Kajiado county.

DonnieTheGreat:


Gratitude Acknowledged,
No baba am Nigerian. And you must translate "kula kwa macho". I hope its not what am thinking..

Means "eating with eyes" Its not what your thinking

naijalander:
Nigerians see oil as a curse, how do you think Nigeria stayed on top before the discovery of crude in the Niger Delta?

You don't what your talking about, if the Crude dries up today (which we are all praying it does), you'd be surprised how quickly things will shift. It's not rocket science, Kenya explored those options cos it did not have crude oil type of money, you'd be surprised how quickly our so called tea industry will die out the moment crude oil comes in commercial quantity.

But really I don't pray y'all go same route we did if that ever happens but odds are you probably will.

No it will not,we have already taken several steps to ensure that oil does not adversely affect the rest of the economy.

DonnieTheGreat:
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i think it would be great if your government or rich individuals built large refineries to help oil rich african nations like Nigeria and Angola refine their crude oil. Am sure the Gdp would obviously double.

Why can't nigeria build oil refineries baba?

Tourism
Tea
Coffee
Flowers

That is all Kenya exports so don't make senseless statements like 'wide variety ' which wide variety ??

Also, Nigeria does have a thriving local manufacturing industry that exports to ECOWAS nations, shoes, clothes you only need to dig deeper. Again this is oil we are talking about! You simply cannot compare the potency, all you gotta do is drill and export it and your in millions. Compare it to Agric products that need further processing, in short oil money makes people lazy.

Last year, a company called Promethean here also began exporting Tin Ore, Nigerian is not in anyway stagnant, the other budding industries simply lack subsidy from powerful entrepreneurs and politicians but eventually that will change, no one can stop the re-industrialization of Nigeria, keyword re-industrialization!

GERALD710:

The name Kenya is a Kamba word that the British adopted. 'Kinyaa' is what Kambas called Mt Kenya
Kenyatta named himself after the country, not the other way around.Kenyatta's original name was Johnstone Kamau and he changed his name to Kenyatta after the British had Kenya as a name.
Looool!!!Kenya's economy is BY FAAAAAAAAAR more diversified than Nigeria.Nigeria's exports are dominated by one commodity and one commodity alone.Oil.
Kenya is a major exporter of a wide variety of agricultural products to Europe ,Asia and the Middle East while it exports manufactured goods to the EAC and COMESA region.
Our largest trade partner is Uganda.We do not export tea or coffee or horticultural products to Uganda.We export manufactured goods!! Same to Tanzania, our third largest trading partner
As for milk production, Nigeria does not match up to the countries that had colonial settlers and have a temperate climate. South Africa is the largest producer of milk on the continent, followed by Zimbabwe then Kenya.
The climate of Nigeria does not allow for the keeping of pure breed high yielding cows, Zimbabwe and South Africa have a temperate climate and so do the highlands of Kenya.You cannot compete. Your climate cannot support the keeping of 30 liter a day producing Guernsey and Fresian cattle as is the case in Central Kenya.
We rarely produce powdered milk.I have never consumed powdered milk in my life!!Although KCC does produce powdered milk, they export it mostly
Kenya is a milk exporter.Both UHT and powdered milk is exported to Rwanda,Turkey South Sudan and the likes.Nigeria IMPORTS milk, even from Kenya in powder form.
And who told you Kenya's milk industry is a Brookside monopoly
Brookside is the largest in terms of milk production, but Kenya has over 40 milk processors, the vast majority being owned by Cooperatives.
Brookside is the largest in milk production, Yes, but it is easily matched by KCC,A Government parastatal that has over 10 factories, as compared to Brookside's four.
Others are Sameeer AgriculturaL,(Makers of Daima), Delamere,Eldoville, Kilifi Gold,Limuru Dairies, Githunguri Dairies, Mariakani Cooperative Society,Meru Cooperative, Bio Foods LTD,Kiabanga and Kinangop Diaries. A few multinationals like Nestle also have contracts with farmers in Kajiado county.

Because Crude oil refineries are expensive to maintain especially in a country with horrible maintenance culture. Refine, process, package, these are long processes.

Also don't forget barriers! We start refining our own oil, what happens to the importation cartels and Western petroleum ? Of course they fight back, they have always found a way to sabotage these things.

TayserMahiri:


Why can't nigeria build oil refineries baba?

naijalander:

in short oil money makes people lazy.

This part has really explained a lot.

Lol same thing they said in the 70s but here we are today but really I pray y'all don't.

GERALD710:

No it will not,we have already taken several steps to ensure that oil does not adversely affect the rest of the economy.

GERALD710:

The name Kenya is a Kamba word that the British adopted. 'Kinyaa' is what Kambas called Mt Kenya
Kenyatta named himself after the country, not the other way around.Kenyatta's original name was Johnstone Kamau and he changed his name to Kenyatta after the British had Kenya as a name.
Looool!!!Kenya's economy is BY FAAAAAAAAAR more diversified than Nigeria.Nigeria's exports are dominated by one commodity and one commodity alone.Oil.
Kenya is a major exporter of a wide variety of agricultural products to Europe ,Asia and the Middle East while it exports manufactured goods to the EAC and COMESA region.
Our largest trade partner is Uganda.We do not export tea or coffee or horticultural products to Uganda.We export manufactured goods!! Same to Tanzania, our third largest trading partner
As for milk production, Nigeria does not match up to the countries that had colonial settlers and have a temperate climate. South Africa is the largest producer of milk on the continent, followed by Zimbabwe then Kenya.
The climate of Nigeria does not allow for the keeping of pure breed high yielding cows, Zimbabwe and South Africa have a temperate climate and so do the highlands of Kenya.You cannot compete. Your climate cannot support the keeping of 30 liter a day producing Guernsey and Fresian cattle as is the case in Central Kenya.
We rarely produce powdered milk.I have never consumed powdered milk in my life!!Although KCC does produce powdered milk, they export it mostly
Kenya is a milk exporter.Both UHT and powdered milk is exported to Rwanda,Turkey South Sudan and the likes.Nigeria IMPORTS milk, even from Kenya in powder form.
And who told you Kenya's milk industry is a Brookside monopoly
Brookside is the largest in terms of milk production, but Kenya has over 40 milk processors, the vast majority being owned by Cooperatives.
Brookside is the largest in milk production, Yes, but it is easily matched by KCC,A Government parastatal that has over 10 factories, as compared to Brookside's four.
Others are Sameeer AgriculturaL,(Makers of Daima), Delamere,Eldoville, Kilifi Gold,Limuru Dairies, Githunguri Dairies, Mariakani Cooperative Society,Meru Cooperative, Bio Foods LTD,Kiabanga and Kinangop Diaries. A few multinationals like Nestle also have contracts with farmers in Kajiado county.

Baba Oil exports account for only 10% of Nigeria's GDP. So lets do the math.

Nigeria's current GDP is $500 billion .
10% of $500 billion = $50 billion
$500 - $50 billion = $450 billion.

There you go, Nigeria would still be the largest economy in Africa without oil. Its just that the oil exports which is just 10% of the GDP is our major earner of foreign exchange. So when there is fall in oil prices the country experiences foreign currency shortages which plunges the country in macro recessions. Like this recent one we are just recovering from.

Even as great as that recession was. Nigeria is still projected to grow by 0.8% this year and our foreign reserve is currently around $40billion. thats just $20 billion short of Kenya's whole Gdp.

Kenya too is not so different,
Tourism is your major source of foreign exchange. If something happened to Tourism in Kenya your economy would likely collapse and would not even dream of the recovery Nigeria is currently going through.

So stop all the noise about "Our Kenyan economy is diverse."

All african countries (Nigeria,Angola,South Africa,Kenya) are suffering from this mono economic syndrome where the whole economy is hinged on just one Industry. Its sad but its the reality of Africa.

Good new!!. thing are changing for Nigeria, Kenya and co.

naijalander:
Ok seen.

Now, consider that Nigeria has like 20 Brookside type of business who mostly produce powdered milk because most of milk comes from the North, Southern cattle rearers mostly do it for meat production.

And isn't it funny you saying Adenuga and Dangote are rich cos of govt patronage yet the Kenyatta family own literally half of Kenyan land, in fact there was a time it became popular saying that Kenya was named after them (calm down I know Kenyatta means burning spear [I think]). The Kenyatta family own the largest share in Kenya's real estate market. So you calling out Adenuga and Dangote over govt patronage is double standard, Kenyan businessmen, escpecially Kikuyu tenderpreneurs enjoy a boat load of patronage and you know it.

Lastly, Brookside rose because of govt patronage after all it's not like the Kenyan economy is any more diversified than Nigeria's, before oil was discovered in Turkana, what else could they have invested in ? Tourism was already saturated, and coffee cartels were never going to be bullied so it only makes sense milk was the next choice and I must admit, they did a pretty good job with that maziwa

Wow! You really know much about Kenya.
What surprises most kenyans here is that they think many Nigerians don't know the terrible things in that itty-bitty country of theirs. So they come here and flood us with lies.

Gosh! Can you imagine how a political family (the Kenyattas) will turn a full country to their private estate?
Gosh! Why are black people so wicked and greedy?

And what pains me the most is that in places like Kenya and other African countries, you see this rich political families flaunting this stolen wealth of theirs publicly! I thank God that Such nonsense does not happen in Nigeria. That is the height of insult to the people of a nation. It looks like these corrupt political families do nit give a damn about what their people think about them. Or could it be that we are the ones getting it wrong here and that people ruled by such leaders are just cheap sycophants??

Yes!!! Baba tell them!

DonnieTheGreat:


Baba Oil exports account for only 10% of Nigeria's GDP. So lets do the math.

Nigeria's current GDP is $500 billion .
10% of $500 billion = $50 billion
$500 - $50 billion = $450 billion.

There you go, Nigeria would still be the largest economy in Africa without oil. Its just that the oil exports which is just 10% of the GDP is our major earner of foreign exchange. So when there is fall in oil prices the country experiences foreign currency shortages which plunges the country in macro recessions. Like this recent one we are just recovering from.

Even as great as that recession was. Nigeria is still projected to grow by 0.8% this year and our foreign reserve is currently around $40billion. thats just $20 billion short of Kenya's whole Gdp.

Kenya too is not so diffrent,
Tourism is your major source of foreign exchange. If something happened to Tourism in Kenya your economy would likely collapse and would not even dream of the recovery Nigeria is currently going through.

So stop all the noise about "Our Kenyan economy is diverse."

All african countries (Nigeria,Angola,South Africa,Kenya) are suffering from this mono economic syndrome where the whole economy is hinged on just one Industry. Its sad but its the reality of Africa.

Good new!!. thing are changing for Nigeria, Kenya and co.

naijalander:
Because Crude oil refineries are expensive to maintain especially in a country with horrible maintenance culture. Refine, process, package, these are long processes.

Also don't forget barriers! We start refining our own oil, what happens to the importation cartels and Western petroleum ? Of course they fight back, they have always found a way to sabotage these things.

I don't know what to say about this except am so ashamed. I'm pretty sure kenya will build a new refinery for its crude on top of the one it has. I can't see any oil corporation stopping that

naijalander:
Dude common, we both know Indian influence on Kenyan politics could never end at MP level, who are we kidding. What about the several frauds they have been implicated in?


Paul Kamlesh Pattni is a Kenyan businessman and pastor. He was implicated in the 1990s Goldenberg scandal but was acquitted in 2013 (Wikipedia)

Don't make me dig further bro!

How did you know so much abt kenyan business men?
Abeg, continue exposing them.

mehn Nigerians are the most well traveled folks in the sub Saharan, I've been around and I meet Igbo dudes in almost every local govt I enter !

The Moi they are talking about ruled them for 23 years, which person for Naija fit try that nonsense, Abacha wanted to try it and dem off d guy sharp sharp.

Basically Kenya starts and ends with the Kenyatta family. Their country is ruled by a Kikuyu - Kalenjin/Nandi elite and they are just as tribalistic as Nigerians even though they have a unifying language.

I swear if Naija had a unifying language, it will be a different story.

Nowenuse:


Wow! You really know much about Kenya.
What surprises most kenyans here is that they think many Nigerians don't know the terrible things in that itty-bitty country of theirs. So they come here and flood us with lies.

Gosh! Can you imagine how a political family (the Kenyattas) will turn a full country to their private estate?
Gosh! Why are black people so wicked and greedy?

And what pains me the most is that in places like Kenya and other African countries, you see this rich political families flaunting this stolen wealth of theirs publicly! I thank God that Such nonsense does not happen in Nigeria. That is the height of insult to the people of a nation. It looks like these corrupt political families do nit give a damn about what their people think about them. Or could it be that we are the ones getting it wrong here and that people ruled by such leaders are just cheap sycophants??

Nowenuse:


Many Kenyans are liars who are masters at fact twisting. I have clearly observed this here. Although i clearly understand. They don't want their little ego bruised.
Everyone knows the influence these Indians have on Kenya's economy.

WHERE IN KENYA'S ECONOMY DO INDIANS DOMINATE SAVE FOR MANUFACTURING?
Again, Nigerians with their lack of knowledge of Kenya past the year 1966!!
Kenya's economy is dominated by
1.The Government of Kenya.Because we are a mixed Economy, not a purely Capitalist one. The Government of Kenya is in EVERY sector of the Economy.
2.Kikuyus.
Last I checked, most small and medium sized businesses, the ones that form 84% of our GDP happen to be dominated by one tribe.Why do you think they were targeted in 2007, were Indians targeted
SMH!!!
Do Indians grow tea, coffee, flowers, horticultural products,keep dairy cattle??
Do they dominate tourism?
Do they dominate transportation?(P.S. There is a ban on Indians owning transport companies since 1968)
How many Indian owned banks in Kenya are in the top 10? .2. DTB and I&M.
The Government has three KCB,(KCB is the largest bank in East and Central Africa by Assets and profit and Branch network.It is owned by the Government of Kenya),National Bank and Cooperative. Two are multinationals(Barclays and Standard Chartered) and the rest are either fully or partally owned by Kenyans of African Descent,Kikuyus
Even in Industry, those Indians borrow money for factory expansion from the Government of Kenya, because the financiers of Industry in Kenya is the Government of Kenya through ICDC, the Industrial Development Bank and the Kenya Industrial Estates.
Even where Indians are the largest owners of a particular establishment, the Government makes sure that they establish a counter weight until Black Africans establish themselves.
Example. Nakumatt is the largest retailer in Kenya(with a 12% market share mind you) but it was historically balanced out by Uchumi, which was established by the Government of Kenya to do eactly that.
Since the 2000s, regional supermarkets have cropped up in every regions and these supermarkets are woned by locals, be it Kassmatt, which is found in all major Kalenjin inhabited towns like Kericho,Eldoret,Kitale,etc. and is owned by a Kalenjin, Maathai Supermarket dominates Central Kenya is owned by a Kikuyu.Eastmatt dominates Central Rift,etc
Black African family owned supermarkets have also risen to challenge the Nakumatt-Uchumi duopoly.Tuskys and Naivas are now just as dominant as Nakumatt(Uchumi having faded into the background), so what the hell are you talking about dude!!!You have no idea how our economy works and in fact, Indians today are ever diminishing in influence .
For example, our IT sector has only one Indian. One!!!!!!!!It is over 99% African!!

My advice:

PLEASE build the refineries and secure exporting deals for refined petroleum first before you start drilling. Don't negotiate Crude export, negotiate refined petroleum exports and it's even better for y'all cos you have stable electricity.

TayserMahiri:


I don't know what to say about this except am so ashamed. I'm pretty sure kenya will build a new refinery for its crude on top of the one it has. I can't see any oil corporation stopping that

naijalander:


The Moi they are talking about ruled them for 38 years ,

Nigerians with lies is like bread and butter. Which 38 years you son of a mathematical genius?

DonnieTheGreat:


Baba Oil exports account for only 10% of Nigeria's GDP. So lets do the math.

Nigeria's current GDP is $500 billion .
10% of $500 billion = $50 billion
$500 - $50 billion = $450 billion.

There you go, Nigeria would still be the largest economy in Africa without oil. Its just that the oil exports which is just 10% of the GDP is our major earner of foreign exchange. So when there is fall in oil prices the country experiences foreign currency shortages which plunges the country in macro recessions. Like this recent one we are just recovering from.

Even as great as that recession was. Nigeria is still projected to grow by 0.8% this year and our foreign reserve is currently around $40billion. thats just $20 billion short of Kenya's whole Gdp.

Kenya too is not so different,
Tourism is your major source of foreign exchange. If something happened to Tourism in Kenya your economy would likely collapse and would not even dream of the recovery Nigeria is currently going through.

So stop all the noise about "Our Kenyan economy is diverse."

All african countries (Nigeria,Angola,South Africa,Kenya) are suffering from this mono economic syndrome where the whole economy is hinged on just one Industry. Its sad but its the reality of Africa.

Good new!!. thing are changing for Nigeria, Kenya and co.

It's a fact that Oil accounts to over 90% of nigerian export. It's also a fact that most African countries are suffering from mono economics..

When the oil prices went down Nigerian and Angolan economy were straggling very much at some point the economy almost de-grew.

When kenyan economy was heat hard by Alshabab the tourim industry almost went dead but the economy still grew plus 5%. To me that is what it means to have a diverse economy.

MtuMsuper:

You see, kenyan economy does not depend on one commodity after another in a cycle that says we move from this to that to the other. That thinking is for Gabon, Nigeria, Angola which are oil fixated and derive the vast majority of govt revenue from oil and gas. See what your friend in travel section affirmed, that he was amazed kenyans have done all thus without oyel but tea and flowers.

The shining new baby in the agric sector is the milk sector. The fishing industry is undergoing a mini revolution too. There is also a new attempt by various governors to develop their competitive advantage. Do you know for example the efforts Kisii county is doing to make it a center for medical tourism? Joho is trying to modernise fishing in Mombasa.
Kiyana, dont stick in Nairobi and say you know kenya inside out. Me , a living kenyan is always discovering new things about my country. Things are never static and changes and new additions all over the place. You, the foreigner in our midst should also do the same and update. Kenya is not the simplistic narrative you want to weave.

It's not our fault that we were blessed with crude oil in Nigeria.
You guys were blessed with an amazing wildlife and this has helped you immensely in developing your tourism sector.
Prior to the discovery of crude oil, go and see how Nigeria was among the leading world exporters of Cocoa, Oil palm, Rubber, Groundnut, Hides & skin, Tin & Columbite, Coal e.t.c

Oil came along with the de-regionalization of Nigeria and that was what destroyed this. However, if you are in touch with Nigerian affairs, you will see how our agricultural, manufacturing and tourism industry is drastically coming up. In a few years time you will be shocked. Haven't you asked yourself how we came out of recession even with the existing low world oil prices?