naijalander:
Certainly not road side prostitution. Kenyan women engage in road side prostitution than Naija women, unless its a strip club, you hardly see clubs like Florida Night Club in Lagos.

Prostitution is an occupation and its different from sex addiction, most Kenyan women are secretly sex addicts, in short Kenya is a sex crazed country. Most Nigerian women do not have interest in sexual activity. Nigerian men on the other hand are sex addicts. That's Naija men and Kenyan women get along quite well.

Lool are you serious?.

naijalander:
Certainly not road side prostitution. Kenyan women engage in road side prostitution than Naija women, unless its a strip club, you hardly see clubs like Florida Night Club in Lagos.

Prostitution is an occupation and its different from sex addiction, most Kenyan women are secretly sex addicts, in short Kenya is a sex crazed country. Most Nigerian women do not have interest in sexual activity. Nigerian men on the other hand are sex addicts. That's Naija men and Kenyan women get along quite well.

How do you know they are secretly sex addicts lol

naijalander:
I think most groups in the middle belt still prefer to associate with Yorubas than Hausas. Unlike Yorubas, Hausas never make political concessions, thats how rigid they are, for them every thing starts and end with Islam.

We all know that Hausa-fulanis are terrible in many ways. The point is that most middlebelt people fear or dislike Hausas almost as much as we do yorubas.
Yorubas may be less of religious extremists, but what about the strong diabolical and ritual practices associated with yorubas? I fear living in Kano as much as i fear living in Ibadan for instance.

Many middlebelt people are muslims and just like muslim yorubas, they are all extremely sympathetic and apologetic to Hausa-fulanis. So, it really makes no much difference.

naijalander:
You also forget that Hausas have victimized middle belt communities much more than any Southern tribe. Yorubas gave them western education, Igbos exposed them to mercantilism, etc. Hausas simply tried to force Islam down their necks.

You 3 major groups of Nigeria cause almost as much equal pain to we minority groups.

Many middlebelters have been victims of Hausa-fulani extremism of course, but many middlebelters have also been victims of yoruba and Igbo diabolism, rituals, scamming, fake products e.t.c These are all terrible practices we middlebelters hardly enage in, but we equally suffer in the name of one Nigeria with you guys.

The only reason you yoruba and Igbos look better to us is because you are making better human and economic progress overall.

TayserMahiri:


How did you write it in English alphabet. Was it a one-to-one letter mapping kind of thing? How is that done?

Many Sudanese go to Middle Eastern countries.

Hati13:

No, they don't speak Amharic. There language is called Tigre, which is different from the Tigragn(northern Ethiopia) language.

Ok thanks for the clarification.
But when Eritereans were still in ET, were they not speaking Amharic (the official language)? What language were they comunicating with other ethnic groups?

naijalander:
Certainly not road side prostitution. Kenyan women engage in road side prostitution than Naija women, unless its a strip club, you hardly see clubs like Florida Night Club in Lagos.

Prostitution is an occupation and its different from sex addiction, most Kenyan women are secretly sex addicts, in short Kenya is a sex crazed country. Most Nigerian women do not have interest in sexual activity. Nigerian men on the other hand are sex addicts. That's Naija men and Kenyan women get along quite well.

Someone is confusing liberalism to sex craze! I don't blame your backward school of thought after all your country still stones women for something as natural as having sex.

Hati13:

All most all the inhabitants of Axum were Agew, Agew/Arab and few Afar people. There language was called Geez language(now, it only serves in the orthodox churches of Ethiopia), which was formed from the mix of old Agew and Sabean languages.

During the decline of Axum from the 8th century onwards, some inhabitants of Axum(the king also) migrated south of Axum(modern day Wollo, Amhara region) by crossing Tekeza river. Those who crossed the river and those who stayed at Axum started to be isolated, because the mountains that separated those areas were one of the most rugged mountains in the world and it was very difficult to cross those mountains and return back to Axum and vice verse to present day Amhara region. Those who crossed started to mix with the locals Agew people again and a new identity started to emerge for them. Those people are what we call now the Amhara people. Their Geez language also started to mix with the locals Agew language and a new language appeared(Amharic language). Amharic is the least Semitic language in the world that show Semitic behaviors(70% Semitic and 30% Cushitic(mostly Agew). It's grammar structure is completely Cushitic(Subject+Noun+Verb).

Those who stayed in Axum also a new identity and language emerged for them. Those people are what we call now, Tigray(Ethiopia) and their language Tigragn and Behir-Tigrayia(Eritrea) and their language Tigri language.

The Agew, Amharas, Tigray, Bahir-Tigrayia and Gurage peoples are descendants of Axum. So basically, we are the same people. It's just our Semitic admixture which varies.

Wow, very enlightening.
So, where do Somalis and Oromos come in here?
Somalis claim they were part of Axum, or are they just lying about it?

Also, how similar is Tigray language and Amharic? Are they mutually intelligible?

Really? You wanna go there? You want me to discuss Kenyan men and their many insecurities? Kenyan guy roars Jenyan babe and she says no and next thing he starts abusing her. So typical. Which one of us is liberal again?

gallivant:


Someone is confusing liberalism to sex craze! I don't blame your backward school of thought after all your country still stones women for something as natural as having sex.

How can you compare Ibadan to Kano? So middle belters don't do rituals too??

Nowenuse:


We all know that Hausa-fulanis are terrible in many ways. The point is that most middlebelt people fear or dislike Hausas almost as much as we do yorubas.
Yorubas may be less of religious extremists, but what about the strong diabolical and ritual practices associated with yorubas? I fear living in Kano as much as i fear living in Ibadan for instance.

Many middlebelt people are muslims and just like muslim yorubas, they are all extremely sympathetic and apologetic to Hausa-fulanis. So, it really makes no much difference.

Aksumawi2805:


Thank you!My mom is an Amhara woman from Gonder city and my dad is Tigre from Axum.

Ok.
Pls, what exactly is the difference btw Tigre, Tigray, Tigraiya and Tigrinya??... They all appear very confusing unlike Oromo, Amhara or Somali which have very clear definitions.

I read that most Tigres are muslims and that majority of them are found in ER and not ET. True?

naijalander:
How can you compare Ibadan to Kano? So middle belters don't do rituals too??

Hell NO we dont. It is almsot impossible for you to ever hear a Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, FCT or Taraba person with human parts....Jeez!

Infact, in my tribe in Plateau, traditional religion has been extinct decades ago! You are either a christian or muslim. We hardly believe in all that nonsense.
I cannot speak for Kogi people though because they have a very strong yoruba influenced culture, likewise Benue and Igbo influence. However, it is still very rare to hear of a kogi or Benue person involved in all these rubbish, to the extent of discovering somewhere like Soka forest on our land? God forbid for such a thing to exist on our soil! It will be exposed immediately!

This is why i don't trust yoruba people. How can such a place exist in their land for years? Are you telling me that there are no interior villagers who know about these places? Of course they do, but they choose to keep quiet about it and allow evil go on.

fanficgirl:

Many Sudanese go to Middle Eastern countries.

Must be the case they join their bros in the Muslim middle east

Hati13:

Axum Civilization started at small areas of present day Eritrea and Tigray region(Ethiopia). At it's peak, it's territory included as far as present day Beja and Adulis(the oldest port on Red Sea) to the north, Kunamma, Tekeza river and Mero(Sudan) to the west and strait of Bab-el-Mandeb(Yemen) to southeast.

The Tigray ethnic groups emerged during the decline of Axum. Axum completely ended in the mid 12 century. After this, the Zagwe(Agew) dynasty and Solomonic dynasties came. During the Abyssinia Empire(1270-1974), there was only one Tigray emperor(Yohannes IV).

Amharas and Tigrays are Agew/Semitic people, who lost their partial Agew identity. Their identities are is a mix of Agew and Semitic identity.

Ok, thank you.
Are u also Habesha?
Do oromos identify as Habeshas too?

Jay254:


Income per capita is one wrong measure consideing wealthy ppl like Dangote share thesame income with ppl in makoko slums or Uhuru with pple in Kibera Slums... For me S.A economy and Nigeria economy are like U.S.A and India... but in african context India has already overtaken the U.S.... Only in Africa

Hell NO!
South Africa and Nigerian comparison is more like Malaysia and Indonesia, Or Japan and China.

US economy is still greater than India regardless of the size of India, but Nigerian economy is far larger than that of SA, just as Indonesia is larger than Malaysia and China is larger than Japan.

fanficgirl:

Isn't Geez older than Arabic?

Yes, it is older than Arabic. The Geez language is a mix of Agew(Cushitic) and Sabean(Semitic) languages. It started to emerge during the mid first millennium B.C.

Agew language is one of the oldest and difficult language in the world.

fanficgirl:

Stop making excuses. Ghana's population is tiny af and has had twice as many years of political stability than Nigeria, and less corruption, but it still isn't better. Nigeria was under repressive military dictatorship up until the 90s and has suffered countless isntability of all forms.Ghana also has natural resources like gold that the Chinese are exploiting right now. Why isn't Ghana a beacon example?Nigerians have accepted their failure but Ghanaian haven't.

Ghana is a failing country for it's size and rescources. Dont mind Just30.
Go and check Ivory coast that is the same size and population with Ghana and less rescources.

When i saw pictures of Abidjan city for the first time, i knew that there will still be hope for West Africa eventually Nigeria fails.

Abidjan can clearly compare Lagos in terms of infrastructure and Abidjan is no longer the capital of Ivory coast anymore. Yamousoukro is now the capital and that city is developing almost as fast as Abuja. Like Abuja, the city was planned from the beginning.

Accra on the other hand is just like Benin or Ibadan in Nigeria

If you think am exaggerating, pls google Abidjan city and Accra city pictures, you will never take Ghanaians serious again.

GERALD710:

We have crushed them several times.
They excel in Business.In Eastleigh, a backwater in Eastlands.How many Somali owned companies does anyone know beyond First Community Bank
On the other hand I can count Kikuyu enterprises even in Garissa!!

Is Garissa a somali county? How many somali speaking counties are in Kenya?

MtuMsuper:

Somalis even discriminate against other muslims by building somali only mosques! I have a Swahili muslim friend who told me once that they give you the eye if you happen to wander into their mosque and you dont look somali. Also most other muslims dont want to be associated with pirate money ,so they keep away. Once when in Uganda, i heard ugandan muslims bitterly complaining about the anti social mannerisms of somalis like petty racial discrimination and chewing of khat.

Somalis are the perfect replica of Nigerian Hausa-fulani muslims. They can discriminate religiously for Africa.

Hausa-fulanis and yoruba muslims do not use the same mosques in many parts of Nigeria. Infact, they sometimes celebrate Sallah (Eid) on different days.

Islam is like a curse to the black man.

Nowenuse:


Ok, i accept that some of my points were wrong.
Let's agree that Amharas and Oromos are equal in ET. Cos the world still see Amharas as having a better life and influence in ET, since Amharas control the capital city Adis Ababa and Amharic is still the official language.

Oromos and Amharas are just about 2/3 of Ethiopia. What about the other minority ethnic groups like the people of Omo valley region, Ogaden region and the Southern peoples and nationalities e.t.c? What about them? You can agree with me that majority of them are far from modern life. Or not?

The Amharas don't own Addis Ababa. Addis is a federal state independent from any ethnic regions. The Amharas did once occupied it, but during the Oromo population movements(from mid 16th to early 19th century), the Oromos conquered it. Now, it's an independent federal state.

You are right in the case of other southern peoples. Most of them are living life without basic modern accommodations.

Hi Hati13, I will like a chance to discuss with you privately, thanks

Hati13:

The Amharas don't own Addis Ababa. Addis is a federal state independent from any ethnic regions. The Amharas did once occupied it, but during the Oromo population movements(from mid 16th to early 19th century), the Oromos conquered it. Now, it's an independent federal state.

You are right in the case of other southern peoples. Most of them are living life without basic modern accommodations.

Nowenuse:


Ok thanks for the clarification.
But when Eritereans were still in ET, were they not speaking Amharic (the official language)? What language were they comunicating with other ethnic groups?

Yes, they were communicating using Amharic language with the other ethnic groups in Ethiopia.

Tigray and Bahir-Tigrayia are the same people.

Nowenuse:


Apparently you misinterpreted my point where i said that '' yorubas have no penchant for minority groups''. What i really meant was that you guys are not interested in forming a united identity with minority groups or using additional minority group populations for greater political relevance, unlike the Hausas and Igbos who are always all over Middlebelt and South-south minority groups.
Although i see that this might have been caused by the early seccesion of Bendel (Midwest) minorities from the old western region.
Talking about Yoruba against Hausa-fulanis or yoruba waging war against Nigeria. I really don't want to undermine the power of any group here, especially a majority group. However, see for yourself, it would be very possible for yoruba to withstand Hausa-fulani (alone), cos both groups have almost equal populations, but if middlebelt and other northern minorities join in with Hausa-fulanis, the disadvantage on yoruba would have been very clear like 2 against 1, not to talk of Yoruba against Nigeria (where we are talking about 20% yoruba population against 80% Nigerian population) and we all know the North controls the military. Unless with stronger external influences, it would be very impossible!

I understood what you meant but didn't take the case that far as it regard forming alliance with minority groups. Forming alliance with minority groups is the most difficult, considering the fear of the minority groups. But truth must be said here, that it will be a herculean task fighting against all sides of Nigeria. This is practically impossible for a Yoruba Race to do except with tactics and all manner of war machineries . I don't really see Yoruba fighting Nigeria because it will amount to suicidal mission. Although, war isn't won by population but modern war techniques and technology to do such. Don't forget, Gideon Orkar had Yoruba soldiers supports as well when he decided to break Nigeria via his radio broadcast. But they failed, so, don't always see it as if Yoruba can't work with minorities in many areas. On the issue of Old Bendel , we are different people to a large extent,o even if marriages took place amongst our people and these other groups in the olden days . Despite,this ,in Delta region, we still have Yoruba descendants who had been there for over four centuries. The Olukunmis have never denied themselves their Yoruba identity and have never shortchanged it with another tribes but hold on to Yoruba identity ,despite 100s of years of long migration toward that direction. And Bini's history is associated with our great ancestor, known as Oranmiyan who married Edo lady that gave birth to a son,known as EWEKA (OWOKA or OWOMIKA) among them within a short stay at Bini . So we really don't have bitterness toward any group as long as the motive is right. Even among Yorubas, we have betrayals, so,it is far away from the problem associated with the breakaway Midwest. It is like a non Yoruba meeting a very cunning Yoruba chap, his mentality will be tilted toward, all Yorubas as being cunning. Just as many people will think all Yoruba have tribal marks as OYO people ,which is the greatest blunder anyone can make because there are some people who don't HAVE tribal marks in YORUBA HISTORY. War isnt a good to thing because a lot of people will die. However, people can continue to clamour for separate identity through Referendum and the copy of such DECLARATION to be with UNITED NATION. ERITREA fought a bitter war against almighty Ethiopia with over 90,000,000+ people compared with 4,000,000+people. And Eritrea still survived and became a nation of her own. Anything is impossible.

naijalander:
lool I've never denied Kenya has a stable power grid. I did mention earlier on this thread that the only good thing about Kenya is fine women & 24 hours electricity. Apart from that, y'all should know your place!

Plzzzz....Kenyan women are the ugliest in East Africa. Check out Tanzanian women and see. Kenyan women cannot match half of Naija women.

Kenya only supplies 24 hrs electricity to the developed parts of their few cities and towns.
They have millions of people in the most terrible slums in Africa, many who lack electricity, 75% of their people are rural and many of the villages do not have electricity. Let's not even talk about the numerous uncivilized Kenyans who still live in the forests and will never know what electricity looks like their entire lives.

99% of Nigerians on the other hand have connection to electricity (even though it's not stable).

uzzyfire:
nawa for una , u guys are still saying Nigeria's GDP is false . y are u people just hating like this, it took Nigeria over 20 yrs for our gdp to reach half a trillion. if Kenya wants their GDP to be as big as Nigerias just rebase it in d next 20 yrs ur GDP will reach 500billion dollars by then naija economy wud have become multi trillion dollar economy

Hahahaha
Kenyan economy is still well below $100billion, it will take them decades to reach $500 billion dollars (if they will ever get there).

Nigeria on the other hand in a decade time or less will start counting trillions of dollars. Just see how our economy came out from recession even when oil price seriously fell. Imagine what would happen now if oil prices increase again? However, we are no longer waiting for crude oil again. We are looking up to agricultural and industrial revolution.

Nowenuse:


Ghana is a failing country for it's size and rescources. Dont mind Just30.
Go and check Ivory coast that is the same size and population with Ghana and less rescources.

When i saw pictures of Abidjan city for the first time, i knew that there will still be hope for West Africa eventually Nigeria fails.

Abidjan can clearly compare Lagos in terms of infrastructure and Abidjan is no longer the capital of Ivory coast anymore. Yamousoukro is now the capital and that city is developing almost as fast as Abuja. Like Abuja, the city was planned from the beginning.

Accra on the other hand is just like Benin or Ibadan in Nigeria

If you think am exaggerating, pls google Abidjan city and Accra city pictures, you will never take Ghanaians serious again.

You are not making any sense so shut up there.
Accra is the most developed and beautiful city in West Africa.
The pictures of Accra you see on Google were taken in the 90's.
Youve not been to Ghana before yet you are there making noise.
Why don't you ask your compatriots who have been to Ghana before?
Will any of them make the same foolish comparison you are making?
Travel and stop using Google pictures to make your arguments.
Where in nigeria is beautiful than Accra?
Nonsense

Nowenuse:


Wow, very enlightening.
So, where do Somalis and Oromos come in here?
Somalis claim they were part of Axum, or are they just lying about it?

Also, how similar is Tigray language and Amharic? Are they mutually intelligible?

I don't know about the Somalia people, but the Oromos origin homelands were in present day Bale and Sidamo areas(central Ethiopia).

During the peak of Axum kingdom, the southeast areas were as far as striat Bab-el-Mandeb. If they were around that areas, they could be included.

Amharagn, Tigragn, Tigrinya(Eritrea), Guragegn and Hararign are all sister languages. There mother language is Geez language. So, Amharagn and Tigragn have similarities, but the grammar structure of Amharic is totally Cushitic(Subject+Noun+Verb), where Tigragn has Semitic grammar structure. Amharic is the least Semitic language that show Semitic behaviors(70% Semitic and 30% Cushitic).

Hati13:

The Amharas don't own Addis Ababa. Addis is a federal state independent from any ethnic regions. The Amharas did once occupied it, but during the Oromo population movements(from mid 16th to early 19th century), the Oromos conquered it. Now, it's an independent federal state.

You are right in the case of other southern peoples. Most of them are living life without basic modern accommodations.

Ok.
So, pls can you give me an ethnic break down of Adiss' population? I tot Amharas were dominant in the city.

But Amharic is still the dominant language of Adis. Or not?

I also want to ask. What is the percentage of Oromo people who speak Amharic? Do they all do?

Is Amharic still widely the language of inter-ethnic communication?

Nowenuse:


I might be wrong (so i apologize).
About the Oromos, i think they now have a better political influence because of their liberation movement or their increased agitation over the decades, cos from what we see, Amharas have been dominating ET for a long time now.
If not, can you pls explain why the capital is in an Amhara speaking territory and why the official language of ET remains Amharic till date?

First, Addis Ababa is an amharic word but owned by Oromos themselves. If you want to speak any language, u are free. Amharic is a working language. You are never obliged to only use Amharic, any Oromos speak Oromiffa in Addis, you can come and watch.

You have said it yourself that Amharas have been rulling for long, which is a reason why Amharic is our official language ( it's a language much used passing through history ).

Today, it's not Amhara rulling. . .why take the blame on Amharas? Why did the present govt still allows that language to become official? any possible answer?

Hati13:

I don't know about the Somalia people, but the Oromos origin homelands were in present day Bale and Sidamo areas(central Ethiopia).

During the peak of Axum kingdom, the southeast areas were as far as striat Bab-el-Mandeb. If they were around that areas, they could be included.

Amharagn, Tigragn, Tigrinya(Eritrea), Guragegn and Hararign are all sister languages. There mother language is Geez language. So, Amharagn and Tigragn have similarities, but the grammar structure of Amharic is totally Cushitic(Subject+Noun+Verb), where Tigragn has Semitic grammar structure. Amharic is the least Semitic language that show Semitic behaviors(70% Semitic and 30% Cushitic).

Somalis came after Ethiopian and Kenyan govt agreed to divide it and take some part of the country inorder to weaken it (because the country was very disturbant to both ET and KE). Today, Kenyan Somali, Ethiopian Somali and Somali exist for this reason.

There are more than 5million Ethiopian Somalis ( tribe- Somali nationality- Ethiopia)

Nowenuse:


Ok, thank you.
Are u also Habesha?
Do oromos identify as Habeshas too?

Yes, I'm Habesha(Amhara ethnic).

Habesha only include Semitic speaking peoples both in Ethiopia and Eritrea(Amhara, Tigray, Behir-Tigriay(Eritrea), Gurage and Harar peoples).

fanficgirl:

Interesting, yes many Bini people deny the connection and I did too until I recently found out it was true. I'm not married to a Yoruba man, i'm very young lol.

Very young you mean? Are you 5years old? Anyway, it is true but SOME BINI people always try to deny such fact about such migration from ILE IFE to Bini. These groups of Yorubas settle down when Oranmiyan came with his entourage to Edo land and some came after Oranmiyan had gone. Till forever, there are families in BINI that are YORUBA DESCENDANTS. No matter what anybody say or think,even if some people deny it.