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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:36pm On Apr 26, 2017
naijalander:
Really? You wanna go there? You want me to discuss Kenyan men and their many insecurities? Kenyan guy roars Jenyan babe and she says no and next thing he starts abusing her. So typical. Which one of us is liberal again?




Yes, it's very liberal in Maiduguri. Smh

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 6:39pm On Apr 26, 2017
Also quite liberal in Garrisa.



gallivant:


Yes, it's very liberal in Maiduguri. Smh
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:48pm On Apr 26, 2017
naijalander:
Certainly not road side prostitution. Kenyan women engage in road side prostitution than Naija women, unless its a strip club, you hardly see clubs like Florida Night Club in Lagos.

Prostitution is an occupation and its different from sex addiction, most Kenyan women are secretly sex addicts, in short Kenya is a sex crazed country. Most Nigerian women do not have interest in sexual activity. Nigerian men on the other hand are sex addicts. That's Naija men and Kenyan women get along quite well.



LoL grin Lmao.
You are very correct. Most Kenyan women appear to me as terrible and desperate cheap sex addicts.
They have no class at all.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hati13:

The Amharas don't own Addis Ababa. Addis is a federal state independent from any ethnic regions. The Amharas did once occupied it, but during the Oromo population movements(from mid 16th to early 19th century), the Oromos conquered it. Now, it's an independent federal state.

You are right in the case of other southern peoples. Most of them are living life without basic modern accommodations.

Addis is independent, let it not happen. . .but if Oromos want to split up, they can take Addis with them.

Even Addis is called 'Finfine' which is Oromiffa. They own it
lets not confuse Nowenuse
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:58pm On Apr 26, 2017
fanficgirl:

True, I don't think we have it even as bad as Tanzania where people kill albinos for rituals. Yes, many people expect all Nigerians to be doing juju thanks to movies. We need better plot lines.

Most of those juju movies are old and epic nollywood movies.
Most modern and urban nollywood movies do not portray juju at all.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:59pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hati13:

Yes, it is older than Arabic. The Geez language is a mix of Agew(Cushitic) and Sabean(Semitic) languages. It started to emerge during the mid first millennium B.C.

Agew language is one of the oldest and difficult language in the world.
Geez is a written language and there are inscription in geez on those ancient rock churches in lalibela.I guess lalibela is still part of ethiopia.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:02pm On Apr 26, 2017
Ednite:



First, Addis Ababa is an amharic word but owned by Oromos themselves. If you want to speak any language, u are free. Amharic is a working language. You are never obliged to only use Amharic, any Oromos speak Oromiffa in Addis, you can come and watch.

You have said it yourself that Amharas have been rulling for long, which is a reason why Amharic is our official language ( it's a language much used passing through history ).

Today, it's not Amhara rulling. . .why take the blame on Amharas? Why did the present govt still allows that language to become official? any possible answer?

Ok thanks
Do u speak Oromo? What percentage of Amharas speak oromo and vice versa?
If an amhara and oromo person meet, in what language are they most likely to communicate in?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:04pm On Apr 26, 2017
Ednite:


Addis is independent, let it not happen. . .but if Oromos want to split up, they can take Addis with them.

Even Addis is called 'Finfine' which is Oromiffa. They own it
lets not confuse Nowenuse

Are you serious? Will most Amharas really allow Oromos to take Addis with them peradventure break up of Ethiopia?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:08pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Hell NO!
South Africa and Nigerian comparison is more like Malaysia and Indonesia, Or Japan and China.

US economy is still greater than India regardless of the size of India, but Nigerian economy is far larger than that of SA, just as Indonesia is larger than Malaysia and China is larger than Japan.

S.A is has the following bigger or better than Nija
1. Manufacturing industries.
2.Tourism industries
3. Telecommunication industry spreading to many countries in Africa Nija included.
4. Retail industry spread across africa Nija included.
5. Mining industry.
6.Financial institutions spread across africa
6. Exports way more than Nija
7. Advanced farming among others...

Now can you compare Nigerian Cities to S.A
Joburg vs Lagos
Captown vs Abuja
Durban vs PH
Pretoria vs Kano
Port Elizabeth vs Calaba
Bloemfontein vs ... just to name afew

In short there is no comparison btwn S.A and Nija..

Comparison is still like U.S and India

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:16pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ok thanks
Do u speak Oromo? What percentage of Amharas speak oromo and vice versa?
If an amhara and oromo person meet, in what language are they most likely to communicate in?

Because Amharic is the official language, there's more chance for Oromos to speak Amharic than Amharas to speak oromo language. But still, some Amharas can also speak Oromiffa. For example, my father knows how to speak Oromiffa because he had Oromo neighbours, but he's Amhara.

*** Amharas and Oromos have been sharing many many words without noticing. . .so when you speak Amharic, you are speaking Oromiffa without noticing. Because both languages have many common words. If Amhara was very racist, would there be a chance for this? I don't think so

but i don't speak Oromo language, i only know thier numbers till 10

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:19pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Are you serious? Will most Amharas really allow Oromos to take Addis with them peradventure break up of Ethiopia?


I talked about the split up thing just to give a powerfull statment. Ofcourse no one will let go like that if they even dream up for that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:22pm On Apr 26, 2017
O0XYGEN:

You are not making any sense so shut up there.
Accra is the most developed and beautiful city in West Africa.
The pictures of Accra you see on Google were taken in the 90's.
Youve not been to Ghana before yet you are there making noise.
Why don't you ask your compatriots who have been to Ghana before?
Will any of them make the same foolish comparison you are making?
Travel and stop using Google pictures to make your arguments.
Where in nigeria is beautiful than Accra?
Nonsense
Now I don't even need to reply him again because you've said it all.
I only just realized, He hadn't been to Ghana.
@No
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:25pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ghana is a failing country for it's size and rescources. Dont mind Just30.
Go and check Ivory coast that is the same size and population with Ghana and less rescources.

When i saw pictures of Abidjan city for the first time, i knew that there will still be hope for West Africa eventually Nigeria fails.

Abidjan can clearly compare Lagos in terms of infrastructure and Abidjan is no longer the capital of Ivory coast anymore. Yamousoukro is now the capital and that city is developing almost as fast as Abuja. Like Abuja, the city was planned from the beginning.

Accra on the other hand is just like Benin or Ibadan in Nigeria

If you think am exaggerating, pls google Abidjan city and Accra city pictures, you will never take Ghanaians serious again.
I Just realized, you haven't been to Ghana before.
Anyway, stay on Google and continue to use it for you nonsensical comparison.

To even compare Abidjan is your new level of insanity
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:26pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


LoL grin Lmao.
You are very correct. Most Kenyan women appear to me as terrible and desperate cheap sex addicts.
They have no class at all.

Nigerian women are all over Europe selling themselves while others have been kidnapped by boko haram, have some dignity and avoid the subject all together. Smh

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:27pm On Apr 26, 2017
naijalander:

Also quite liberal in Garrisa.




Yes, no Sharia and road blocks in Garrisa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:29pm On Apr 26, 2017
naijalander:
How can you compare Ibadan to Kano? So middle belters don't do rituals too??




Living in Kano, the only thing you really have to fear is religious extremism. As long as you live in a high or high middle class neighbourhood or close to the barracks in Kano, you have absolutely no fear.

Living in Ibadan for a non-yoruba is almost the same as Kano in terms of language because you almost must learn how to speak yoruba to survive in Ibadan. Many educated yoruba people will choose just not to speak English with you, even when they know that you don't speak yoruba. You never know if you will fall victim of Soka forest people or the charms of your neighbours. Infact, you dont sleep at night if you argue, quarrel or dare a yoruba by day. You guys are also not very welcoming to strangers (especially if they dont speak yoruba). Yahoo boys and scammers are on the loose in IB. What about the robbery and cultism? These are not issues in Kano or Northern cities as such.
(i'm orry if i sounded too indiscreet or stereotypical, but these are the natural fears many others have of your people and place)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ok.
So, pls can you give me an ethnic break down of Adiss' population? I tot Amharas were dominant in the city.

But Amharic is still the dominant language of Adis. Or not?

I also want to ask. What is the percentage of Oromo people who speak Amharic? Do they all do?

Is Amharic still widely the language of inter-ethnic communication?
Addis is the capital of Ethiopia, so almost all the inhabitants are from every ethnic groups in Ethiopia. Most of the people that are born in Addis are from multi-ethnic backgrounds.

Yes, Amharic is the dominant language in Addis. There are 9 ethnic regions in Ethiopia. All most all those regions can speak Amharic along side their own multi languages. During emperor Menelik II expansion to the SW, S and SE in the 19th century, most of the inhabitants were forced to speak Amharic and to change their culture to the Amhara culture(changing their name to Amhara name for example). That is why Amhara culture and language can be seen widely in Ethiopia.

I don't know the percentages, but most of the Oromos can speak Amharic, because of the reasons I stated to you above.

Yes, Amharic is mostly used other than other languages for inter-ethnic communication. Amharic is used as a working language on a federal level.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:38pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Are you serious? Will most Amharas really allow Oromos to take Addis with them peradventure break up of Ethiopia?

Those are rhetorical questions. The only country on the brink of break up is Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:40pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hati13:

Addis is the capital of Ethiopia, so almost all the inhabitants are from every ethnic groups in Ethiopia. Most of the people that are born in Addis are from multi-ethnic backgrounds.

Only a Nigerian would be ignorant not to know basic information. You guys are slow..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:42pm On Apr 26, 2017
Just30:
Now I don't even need to reply him again because you've said it all.
I only just realized, He hadn't been to Ghana.
@No
O0XYGEN:

You are not making any sense so shut up there.
Accra is the most developed and beautiful city in West Africa.
The pictures of Accra you see on Google were taken in the 90's.
Youve not been to Ghana before yet you are there making noise.
Why don't you ask your compatriots who have been to Ghana before?
Will any of them make the same foolish comparison you are making?
Travel and stop using Google pictures to make your arguments.
Where in nigeria is beautiful than Accra?
Nonsense

Chali people. I have been to Accra, take it or leave it. Yes the city is very neat and calm. But hey there is nothing spectacular about it. No mind blowing architecture or vibe, only very sunburnt ugly chali people forcing themselves to speak british english with Akan accent.
My elder brother had been to Ivory coast and he was the one who told me how fascinating Abidjan was and i decided to look it up and was amazed.

Pls compare Accra to Ouagadogou (Burkina faso), Bamako (Mali) or Niamey (Niger). It is just neat but nothing spectacular.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:47pm On Apr 26, 2017
Ednite:


Because Amharic is the official language, there's more chance for Oromos to speak Amharic than Amharas to speak oromo language. But still, some Amharas can also speak Oromiffa. For example, my father knows how to speak Oromiffa because he had Oromo neighbours, but he's Amhara.

*** Amharas and Oromos have been sharing many many words without noticing. . .so when you speak Amharic, you are speaking Oromiffa without noticing. Because both languages have many common words. If Amhara was very racist, would there be a chance for this? I don't think so

but i don't speak Oromo language, i only know thier numbers till 10

Ok, good to know.

Lastly, i would like to ask, what is Ethiopian govt doing about the Southern people?
You, i and the whole world knows the condition of Southern Ethiopia. I have really looked extensively into those regions and many of the people i see there look hopeless. Those uncivilized tribes, is there ever a hope for them to be integrated into modern ET or they are going to be like that forever?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:48pm On Apr 26, 2017
gallivant:


Only a Nigerian would be ignorant not to know basic information. You guys are slow..
You should have QUOTE that to the asker, not to me!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:50pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hati13:

Addis is the capital of Ethiopia, so almost all the inhabitants are from every ethnic groups in Ethiopia. Most of the people that are born in Addis are from multi-ethnic backgrounds.

Yes, Amharic is the dominant language in Addis. There are 9 ethnic regions in Ethiopia. All most all those regions can speak Amharic along side their own multi languages. During emperor Menelik II expansion to the SW, S and SE in the 19th century, most of the inhabitants were forced to speak Amharic and to change their culture to the Amhara culture(changing their name to Amhara name for example). That is why Amhara culture and language can be seen widely in Ethiopia.

I don't know the percentages, but most of the Oromos can speak Amharic, because of the reasons I stated to you above.

Yes, Amharic is mostly used other than other languages for inter-ethnic communication. Amharic is used as a working language on a federal level.

You have a heart. How do you manage to respond to such queries?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On Apr 26, 2017
obaaderemi:
Geez is a written language and there are inscription in geez on those ancient rock churches in lalibela.I guess lalibela is still part of ethiopia.
Yes, Lalibela is found in Ethiopia. Specially, it's in Wollo zone, Amhara region. It was built by Agew people in the early 13th century and the architecture was King Lalibela.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:58pm On Apr 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Chali people. I have been to Accra, take it or leave it. Yes the city is very neat and calm. But hey there is nothing spectacular about it. No mind blowing architecture or vibe, only very sunburnt ugly chali people forcing themselves to speak british english with Akan accent.
My elder brother had been to Ivory coast and he was the one who told me how fascinating Abidjan was and i decided to look it up and was amazed.

Pls compare Accra to Ouagadogou (Burkina faso), Bamako (Mali) or Niamey (Niger). It is just neat but nothing spectacular.
take it or leave it
No West African City is as developed as Accra.
Note, development is measured by access to services.
When you ever travel to Accra in your live, you will see far more amazing architecture .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:03pm On Apr 26, 2017
TayserMahiri:


You have a heart. How do you manage to respond to such queries?
I'm currently free for this year(this year is 2009 in Ethiopia calandra). I also like to talk with my fellow African brothers and sisters. You don't know who much excited and happy I'm feeling from talking to all of you guys.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:13pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hati13:

I'm currently free for this year(this year is 2009 in Ethiopia calandra). I also like to talk with my fellow African brothers and sisters. You don't know who much excited and happy I'm feeling from talking to all of you guys.

Okay. Enjoy yourself sir. With the calendar, are we leaving you behind more over time or are you getting closer to us?

P.S Why are you free this year? How can you be free for a whole year sir

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 8:23pm On Apr 26, 2017
You say all these things yet the South West is the most ethnically mixed region in the country.

I don't get how choosing to speak your native tongue some how translates to not being friendly to outsiders. Cultism, ritual killings certainly not an argument, middle belt universities are full of Yahoo boys and cultists too.

And quarrel with a Yoruba person and not sleep at night Really dude ?




Nowenuse:


Living in Kano, the only thing you really have to fear is religious extremism. As long as you live in a high or high middle class neighbourhood or close to the barracks in Kano, you have absolutely no fear.

Living in Ibadan for a non-yoruba is almost the same as Kano in terms of language because you almost must learn how to speak yoruba to survive in Ibadan. Many educated yoruba people will choose just not to speak English with you, even when they know that you don't speak yoruba. You never know if you will fall victim of Soka forest people or the charms of your neighbours. Infact, you dont sleep at night if you argue, quarrel or dare a yoruba by day. You guys are also not very welcoming to strangers (especially if they dont speak yoruba). Yahoo boys and scammers are on the loose in IB. What about the robbery and cultism? These are not issues in Kano or Northern cities as such.
(i'm orry if i sounded too indiscreet or stereotypical, but these are the natural fears many others have of your people and place)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:30pm On Apr 26, 2017
Jay254:


S.A is has the following bigger or better than Nija
1. Manufacturing industries.
2.Tourism industries
3. Telecommunication industry spreading to many countries in Africa Nija included.
4. Retail industry spread across africa Nija included.
5. Mining industry.
6.Financial institutions spread across africa
6. Exports way more than Nija
7. Advanced farming among others...

Now can you compare Nigerian Cities to S.A
Joburg vs Lagos
Captown vs Abuja
Durban vs PH
Pretoria vs Kano
Port Elizabeth vs Calaba
Bloemfontein vs ... just to name afew

In short there is no comparison btwn S.A and Nija..

Comparison is still like U.S and India

Yes, South Africa beats Nigeria in many aspects, but we also beat you guys in others too.

SA does not have better financial institutions that Nigeria.

Nigeria has the biggest Banking and financial institutions in Africa.
Nigeria has the biggest entertainment industry in Africa
Nigeria has the biggest fashion industry in Africa

You guys have better cities now but we are building more number of better world class cities in Nigeria now (Eko atlantic city, Orange island, Lekki city, Abuja centennary city, PH rainbow town, Enugu centennary city, Kano mega city. Anambra airport city and Lagos smart city to commence soon)

S.A may have better few developing cities but Nigeria has more developing cities Lagos, Abuja, PH, Enugu, Kano, Ibadan, Calabar, Benin, Kaduna, Owerri, Onitsha, Jos, Uyo, Warri, Aba, Zaria and many dozens more, equally and rapidly developing at the same time.

Heck, many South Africans and other Africans still come to Nigeria on 'religous pilgrimage' grin. Nigeria has the biggest and most influential religious institutions in Africa.

Nigeria has the most succesful and influential business men influencing Africa positively

Recently, Nigeria has started investing heavily on Agriculture and industrialization.
Nigeria is not there yet, but it is growing faster (coupled with it's huge potentials as a large and hardworking nation), and in a short time from now, there will be no basis for comparison.

A developing China has more potentials than a dev Brazil
A developing India has more potentials than a dev Indonesia
A developing Egypt has more potentials than a developing Morocco.

Likewise Nigeria and S.A
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MrMaestro: 8:31pm On Apr 26, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MrMaestro: 8:36pm On Apr 26, 2017
GERALD710:

There is a large difference between East African Asians who have been here for over a century(In the case of Mombasa, 4 centuries) and India Indians.

I'm not so sure. I have a close Tanzanian friend from university and we'd talk about Africa stuff. One day she told me that when she was younger an Indian asked her to be his girlfriend and she respectfully declined. He then stated how she should be grateful that he asked her out because she's a black African that nobody wants. For her to tell me this more than 10yrs later proves how this Indian scarred her probably for life. It's good you like diversity, but the African is different from other races in how they're viewed and treated. The more non africans you allow I'm positions of power, the more you're probably creating more enemies. Just be cautious.

You can continue to be naive about Indians if you want, but please, don't be dumb. They are the closest race to Africans in skin tone and want to be viewed as different from us as possible. Hence why they are so racist and still have a caste problem with black Indians. You can be sure that they'll smile to your face but will tell their children to never bring home an African.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:37pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hati13:

Addis is the capital of Ethiopia, so almost all the inhabitants are from every ethnic groups in Ethiopia. Most of the people that are born in Addis are from multi-ethnic backgrounds.

Yes, Amharic is the dominant language in Addis. There are 9 ethnic regions in Ethiopia. All most all those regions can speak Amharic along side their own multi languages. During emperor Menelik II expansion to the SW, S and SE in the 19th century, most of the inhabitants were forced to speak Amharic and to change their culture to the Amhara culture(changing their name to Amhara name for example). That is why Amhara culture and language can be seen widely in Ethiopia.

I don't know the percentages, but most of the Oromos can speak Amharic, because of the reasons I stated to you above.

Yes, Amharic is mostly used other than other languages for inter-ethnic communication. Amharic is used as a working language on a federal level.

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

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