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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2017
shervydman:
baddest!!!......nice try,na small small jare....
i try jare, how naija dey ? where you dey bros?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse:


Now tell me, what the fucck do you think Nigerians give about a dam in East Africa?
How will that ever affect our daily lives?
Will it change the fact that East Africa and Central Africa are still the poorest regions of Africa and the ones dragging us behind?
Will the dam help to civilize and integrate the millions of uncivilized tribes in East Africa used for tourist purposes to further denigrate the black race to the outside world?
Will the dam help to stabilize the war torn nations of South Sudan and Somalia?

Dangote (Africa's richest man) is building the largest singe refinery in the world and the largest in Africa (to be finished next year), in Nigeria and this would create Jobs for almost 1 million people. This is what am more concerned about or at least would be shameful if i knew nothing about.
Don't be harsh like this. If we want to minimize racism and discrimination between all of us(I'm not saying you are), we need to give attention and care for each other. Whether someone like it or not, what happened here will affect the whole Africa in specific and the world in general and also vice verse to us.

Peace! smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:43pm On Apr 28, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


You want me to break my neck? grin I can't try it.
Considering that Ethiopians dont speak a foreign language as lingua-franca your English is good.

thanks
carefull with your neck tho, you need an experienced Ethiopian trainer grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:43pm On Apr 28, 2017
Hati13:

Don't be harsh like this. If we want to minimize racism and discrimination between all of us(I'm not saying you are), we need to give attention and care for each other. Whether someone like it or not, what happened here will affect the whole Africa in specific and the world in general and also vice verse to us.

Peace! smiley
preach brother, preach. Till they hear the good news!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:43pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

i try jare, how naija dey ? where you dey bros?
I dey Lagos o my man.......u're really a fast learner.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:47pm On Apr 28, 2017
O0XYGEN:
Typical idiot.Dont you know Ghana is far developed than that useless nigeria you hail from?
Go and check UN infrastructural development index and check where your useless underdeveloped zoo is ranked.

nigeria is not even in the first 20 developed countries in Africa when it comes to infrastructure so shut up there.
good for u..........I don't wanna go into any heated argument with anyone again.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 12:50pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse:


Now tell me, what the fucck do you think Nigerians give about a dam in East Africa?
How will that ever affect our daily lives?
Will it change the fact that East Africa and Central Africa are still the poorest regions of Africa and the ones dragging us behind?
Will the dam help to civilize and integrate the millions of uncivilized tribes in East Africa used for tourist purposes to further denigrate the black race to the outside world?
Will the dam help to stabilize the war torn nations of South Sudan and Somalia?

Dangote (Africa's richest man) is building the largest singe refinery in the world and the largest in Africa (to be finished next year), in Nigeria and this would create Jobs for almost 1 million people. This is what am more concerned about or at least would be shameful if i knew nothing about.

Someone said you're Iansweets who ,last year showcased velvet table cloths as traditional attire-he was right. She had ZERO geopolitical understanding even by Nairaland standards but insisted we all had to suffer the sounds of her ignorance. Word of advice-even though you change your nick your style betrays you;its a secret signature!!
Take several seats already!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:53pm On Apr 28, 2017
shervydman:

I dey Lagos o my man.......u're really a fast learner.
Lasgidi ! Abeg make i ask? Dis matter for Ooni and Oba Rilwanu who start am? Who be senior? Dis Wahala even BBC e go report!!!

You should try a few phrases in kiswahili too. Do you know how i love surprising people in their language. Nigerians watch out, i dey come oo. Next i dey try yoruba ,maybe hausa....i cant make my mind up!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:55pm On Apr 28, 2017
kikuyu1:


Someone said you're Iansweets who ,last year showcased velvet table cloths as traditional attire-he was right. She had ZERO geopolitical understanding even by Nairaland standards but insisted we all had to suffer the sounds of her ignorance. Word of advice-even though you change your nick your style betrays you;its a secret signature!!
Take several seats already!!
The wise men tell us every man has a female version and vice versa. A leopard never changes its spots, just the tree.
Let me chokoza these guys in pidgin. I have been studying it of late.hehehe
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:57pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Lasgidi ! Abeg make i ask? Dis matter for Ooni and Oba Rilwanu who start am? Who be senior? Dis Wahala even BBC e go report!!!

You should try a few phrases in kiswahili too. Do you know how i love surprising people in their language. Nigerians watch out, i dey come oo. Next i dey try yoruba ,maybe hausa....i cant make my mind up!
oya na,if u go teach me Swahili,i no mind..........the Oba or no Oba matterabeg leave matter for Matthias jare.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:08pm On Apr 28, 2017
shervydman:

Fool......I'm in Lagos,and ur country is not as developed as Nigeria, i can categorically tell u that.
Lagos with it bad roads grin grin
I was in Lagos last year and it was a horrible experience.
If Lagos is half as developed as Accra, I'll clap for it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 1:11pm On Apr 28, 2017
shervydman:

oya na,if u go teach me Swahili,i no mind..........the Oba or no Oba matterabeg leave matter for Matthias jare.
if you speak am with 9ja accent e go spoil. look for kenya bros dey for lagos or google nairaland for thread 'lets learn swahili'. E sweet pass.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:12pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

if you speak am with 9ja accent e go spoil. look for kenya bros dey for lagos or google nairaland for thread 'lets learn swahili'. E sweet pass.
no wahala my man.........Gracias.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:16pm On Apr 28, 2017
Just30:
Lagos with it bad roads grin grin
I was in Lagos last year and it was a horrible experience.
If Lagos is half as developed as Accra, I'll clap for it.
ok......
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:20pm On Apr 28, 2017
gallivant:


It almost impossible for Nigerians to come up with any logical answer without kissing Dangote's @ss. Such a shame.

Bad belle. It's better we kiss Dangote's ass than kissing the asses of Indians.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:29pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Chai!! See mumuness that has gone abroad. Oya, wetin consine you wey kenya e buy light? Deal na deal, ethiopia don agree. See how man from kon3 wey no sabi light business e dey yarn. Wind power, geothermal power, hydropower, solarpower all na boku boku. Nuclear power e go be 2025. Oya, na serious kontri dey for Afrika ,na kenya boys e dey lead.
Oya, run to filling station, petrol na scarce, dat generator no be wood.

You tink we no sabi pidgin bros? We study am pass 1 year now! aaah aah!

Hian!

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

I swear, u have made my day. Reading tru your pidgin got me rolling on the floor!. You tried a little. grin

Wetin u dey nack so na ajebutter brokin, Ogbonge brokin dey wey u nor go fit sabi lailai unless say u don tanda taytay for Obodo naija.
TRANSLATION
(What you are speaking is posh or surface pidgin, there is the original pidgin you will never understand until you have stayed a long time in Nigeria)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 1:36pm On Apr 28, 2017
shervydman:

no wahala my man.........Gracias.
You see, if you speak to a man in a language he understands,it goes to his head, if you speak to him in his language ,it goes to his heart.
Last year, we were on a construction site somewhere in the countryside of kenya, and i was tasked with taking a group from Germany who were on a familiarisation tour of the project at hand since the German agency KfW, partly funded the project at 10%. The three of them had passable spoken english but many were the times when explanations were lost completely in language since they spoke heavily accented 'German English' and we spoke heavily accented 'Kenyan English'. I quickly realised what was afoot: the message wasn't getting through to them Without any warning, whatsoever i asked my MD if i could proceed in German. And without waiting for an answer from him, i did the rest of tbe presentation in my rarely practised but passable German. The look on their faces was precious.The older one amongst them was in fact spellbound and speechless throughout. Afterwards, alot of social capital was created, which I have yet to exploit. This episode made me realise that practising communication skills is and can be a game changer. I think also, there is a difference in communication styles and meanings between different peoples across Africa, and we have yet to study each other patiently and with reason, in order to get around misconceptions in intonation,body language and other forms of non verbal communication.

Just imagine what would have happened to world history if Hitler had taken the letter Gandhi wrote to him ,seriously?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:37pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

i try jare, how naija dey ? where you dey bros?

Wait a second. How and where did you learn pidgin? cheesy
For a non- west African, you are not doing that bad.

The only problem about you speaking pidgin is that your non-Nigeria accent will still expose you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:41pm On Apr 28, 2017
Hati13:

Don't be harsh like this. If we want to minimize racism and discrimination between all of us(I'm not saying you are), we need to give attention and care for each other. Whether someone like it or not, what happened here will affect the whole Africa in specific and the world in general and also vice verse to us.

Peace! smiley

U are very correct and thank you. Most Kenyans are naturally very insultive. So we always try to tame their wildness.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 1:43pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse:


Hahahahahahahahahahahaha grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

I swear, u have made my day. Reading tru your pidgin got me rolling on the floor!. You tried a little. grin

Wetin u dey nack so na ajebutter brokin, Ogbonge brokin dey wey u nor go fit sabi lailai unless say u don tanda taytay for Obodo naija.
TRANSLATION
(What you are speaking is posh or surface pidgin, there is the original pidgin you will never understand until you have stayed a long time in Nigeria)
Small small i go reach. Question: you see me sef i dey try ,you dey? Wetin kenya pipu e dey vex you ,you bash am 24/7?
For dis nairaland i dey learn plenty plenty for obodo 9ja, soon i go enter like thief for night, i dey get citizen. After i dey run governor, fix all problems for 9ja. Make i try plateau state?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:49pm On Apr 28, 2017
kikuyu1:


Someone said you're Iansweets who ,last year showcased velvet table cloths as traditional attire-he was right. She had ZERO geopolitical understanding even by Nairaland standards but insisted we all had to suffer the sounds of her ignorance. Word of advice-even though you change your nick your style betrays you;its a secret signature!!
Take several seats already!!

What the fucck is Iamsweets? I never knew many Kenyans hallucinate naturally.
E be like say u wake up see me for dream abi?
If u dey kolo, abeg fain wia u wan kolo enter o.

Talking about Nigerian traditional clothes, heck all Naijans are proud of our clothes and i am partly into the fashion designing industry. I have been working with a fashion publishing and advertising media house for some time.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 1:49pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse:


Wait a second. How and where did you learn pidgin? cheesy
For a non- west African, you are not doing that bad.

The only problem about you speaking pidgin is that your non-Nigeria accent will still expose you.
Funnily enough, some years ago, a group of nigerians caught overstaying in tanzania were deported to kenya border and they claimed to be kenyans , even though their accent , dressing and phenotype was straight from a nollywood movie. Tanzanians love abandoning deportees at kenya border.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:52pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse I've told this person many times how little most Nigerians think about Kenya. If na SA now, eh ehn no wahala but Kenya of all countries?? I no dey overtink una matter, we aint in the same league.


gallivant:


Do you guys live in a hole? Which serious African doesn't know about the Renaissance Dam and its implications? Get your minds out of the gutter!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:56pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Small small i go reach. Question: you see me sef i dey try ,you dey? Wetin kenya pipu e dey vex you ,you bash am 24/7?
For dis nairaland i dey learn plenty plenty for obodo 9ja, soon i go enter like thief for night, i dey get citizen. After i dey run governor, fix all problems for 9ja. Make i try plateau state?

U funny die. U are very humorous. E good sha. I dey trip for your style.

Swahili is quite hard to learn, if not i would have tried it. Although i know KARIBU, HABARI, KWAHERI, SAFAHANI and TAFADELI. That should be all grin

Seems like you are a polyglot. You speak German fluently? Do u also speak french? (I speak french fairly well)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:04pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Funnily enough, some years ago, a group of nigerians caught overstaying in tanzania were deported to kenya border and they claimed to be kenyans , even though their accent , dressing and phenotype was straight from a nollywood movie. Tanzanians love abandoning deportees at kenya border.

LoL @Straight from a nollywood movie.
But na wa for my naija people sef. Dem too dey waka.

Many Nigerians just have the hussling spirit and 'i must succeed mentality' especially Southern Nigerians from low income houses.
Hardly will you ever find low income Central or Northern Nigerians leaving Nigeria to another African country for hussling. We rather remain in our villages and farm.
I am from a middle class home however, so i may never really understand what those from low income homes go through as such.

However, so, are you saying that you learnt this pidgin just by interracting with those few naija peeps? Or also tru Naija music and movies?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:07pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse:


U funny die. U are very humorous. E good sha. I dey trip for your style.

Swahili is quite hard to learn, if not i would have tried it. Although i know KARIBU, HABARI, KWAHERI, SAFAHANI and TAFADELI. That should be all grin

Seems like you are a polyglot. You speak German fluently? Do u also speak french? (I speak french fairly well)
French escaped me. Its not too difficult to learn. You become a tolerant person if you live in a household where more than 1 language is spoken/heard. Even more if you grew up in such a place.
Its
Karibu = Welcome
Hujambo/Habari? = How are you?News?
Kwaheri = Goodbye
Samahani = excuse me
Tafadhali = please
Shukran / Ahsante = thank you
Mnaijeria = Nigerian
Mkenya = Kenyan
Uhabeshi = Ethiopia
Mhabeshi = Ethiopia
Mwanaume = man
Mwanamke = woman
Mwana/mtoto = child
Ujinga = stupidity
Umeme = electricity
Maji = water
Barabara = road


I cant reproduce the whole dictionary obviously.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:09pm On Apr 28, 2017
PissedYagami:

Here I thought west Africa was shittier

How can west Africa be shittier? Compare the income per capital of West African countries and East African countries and see.
The GDP per capital of ECOWAS is about $1,500. That of East Africa is far far lower (should be around $300).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:12pm On Apr 28, 2017
shervydman:

and is Dangote a Kenyan?

He can't. In Kenya his monopolies would have been nationalized and shares offered to the public. In Kenya business principles and ethics are supreme.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:14pm On Apr 28, 2017
Nowenuse:


LoL @Straight from a nollywood movie.
But na wa for my naija people sef. Dem too dey waka.

Many Nigerians just have the hussling spirit and 'i must succeed mentality' especially Southern Nigerians from low income houses.
Hardly will you ever find low income Central or Northern Nigerians leaving Nigeria to another African country for hussling. We rather remain in our villages and farm.
I am from a middle class home however, so i may never really understand what those from low income homes go through as such.

However, so, are you saying that you learnt this pidgin just by interracting with those few naija peeps? Or also tru Naija music and movies?
Almost entirely from nairaland. Pidgin has no definite rule so you can break it and mash it at will. You can use your own style. Am told pidgin from the oil delta is very complicated and many use it as mother tongue?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:15pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

French escaped me. Its not too difficult to learn. You become a tolerant person if you live in a household where more than 1 language is spoken/heard. Even more if you grew up in such a place.
Its
Karibu = Welcome
Hujambo/Habari? = How are you?News?
Kwaheri = Goodbye
Samahani = excuse me
Tafadhali = please
Shukran / Ahsante = thank you
Mnaijeria = Nigerian
Mkenya = Kenyan
Uhabeshi = Ethiopia
Mhabeshi = Ethiopia
Mwanaume = man
Mwanamke = woman
Mwana/mtoto = child
Ujinga = stupidity
Umeme = electricity
Maji = water
Barabara = road


I cant reproduce the whole dictionary obviously.

Okay, thats great. I hope one day, Black Africans would adopt a unifying language. Swahili and Naija Pidgin are the most influential right now, but swahili has a better edge.
Hausa language have what it takes to challenge Swahili and even unite West Africa, just that most Hausa natives and speakers practice the kind of islam that is anti-progressive and they are still very very backwards.

I speak Hausa though and i have observed that Hausa has some similar words with Swahili like DUNIYA, HATARI, and some others which i might have forgotten. I guess this influence is from Arabic, because 25% or more of Hausa words and grammar come from Arabic.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:20pm On Apr 28, 2017
gallivant:


He can't. In Kenya his monopolies would have been nationalized and shares offered to the public. In Kenya business principles and ethics are supreme.
Imagine if Athi River mining, Mombasa cement, Bamburi cement and Blue Triangle cement were all given tp one license holder by govt of Kenya, and all his competitors strangled. The same individual would generously fund all political players to give a semblance of fairness, to fool the casual observer. Don't you think this individual would be a billionaire in no time?


Oh and don't forget to give the same guy Mumias Sugar,Muhoroni Sugar, Sony Sugar, Kabras Sugar, Nzoia Sugar as well.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:24pm On Apr 28, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Almost entirely from nairaland. Pidgin has no definite rule so you can break it and mash it at will. You can use your own style. Am told pidgin from the oil delta is very complicated and many use it as mother tongue?

YES, you are correct.
However, Niger delta (Warri specifically) and Lagos are the 2 major places pidgin originated from and most new pidgin words originated and keep originating in these places.

Yes, in South-south Nigeria (Delta, Edo, Rivers and Bayelsa states), pidgin is now becoming the mother tongue of many people here and is displacing their native languages, even in the most interior villages here, most of their elders speak pidgin. These states along with parts of Lagos is where the deepest pidgin dialects are spoken.
I grew up in Delta state (Warri) and that's why i can speak very very deep pidgin.
The best comedians in Nigeria are from Delta state because Deltans have the best command of pidgin in Nigeria which makes people laugh. Pidgin is the language of Naija comedy and music.

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