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Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 5:50pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Schwartz:Okay. 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by bebe2(f): 5:57pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
salford: I love the Uk, but the weather is killing me, I have S.A.D , and Manchester doesn't help the conditions. Lol Already booked a holiday Los Angeles in February and am sooooo looking forward to it |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Saintsquare(m): 6:28pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
salford:The last paragraph is exactly what we talking about, people wey get small still be like e go better, the ones wey no get at all no be hell be that .... 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by bebe2(f): 6:49pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
salford: Lol, talking of those who ran back to naija, my brother in law got a Visa to Ireland thru a church program, after the program he and a few other pple ran away and decided not to go back to Nigeria. They started staying with a relative of one of the guys. The relative secured menial jobs for them. My brother in law went one day and decided the struggle was not for him, so he got on a plane and came back home, the wife nearly died. He is an assistant pastor and counsellor for his churn, that's all he does, all his responsibilities falls on his wife who is always begging Frds and relative for kids school fees and house rent. She is a private school teacher, her younger sister who leaves in Europe is a main helper. She doesn't work but will send money monthly fro The benefits the government gives her for her kids upkeep. While the man goes about town complaining of how he helped his friends dat are still in Dublin and how they have totally forgotten him. 24 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by AreaFada2: 7:07pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
slimany: UK. In America even more. Many failed with EU marriage stuff. Only some with UK kids eventually did get. While some were waiting for 15 years stay to apply, Theresa May as Home Office secretary shifted it to 20 years. 4 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 7:07pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
bebe2: lol. The struggle was not for him but he prefers to blaim his friends who stay put and keep hustling real hard. I guess that your brother na ajebutter, cos I doubt if any struggling Nigeria dude will even think of Nigeria for the next 5years talk less of coming back to naija.How I wish I can talk to that ur sister not send anything to him again so he can be more responsible. 6 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by queendoreez(f): 7:17pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Seanjay: Please don't rely on her promises. If you have your way start processing your papers sharply. 3 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Seanjay(m): 7:20pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
queendoreez: no mind her i no de wait for her again since when it just that the country is somehow hard now and to get that money back to restart the processing is the problem now she just made me waste money and time very silly aunt 3 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by SixSigma1(m): 7:26pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
bjhaid: As many people have mentioned to you already, your brother is either lying to you or exaggerating things. No company in the western world gives a dedicated driver to an employee. Not even to the CEO's of the most successful companies in the world. The best they can do is to hire a limo to take him to the airport or to some special occasions or pick him from the airport of from the special occasions AS NEEDED. You also don't have to be at the very top level in the organization for the company to hire a lime to take you to the airport or pick you from the airport. The company I work for does that whenever we travel for business. justwise: bjhaid: The fact that your brother is on K1 visa make me feel strong about the fact that he is either lying to you or exaggerating things when he says he has a dedicated driver from the company. The reason being that I doubt that he is on K1 visa (I may be wrong) because of the type of visa the K1 visa is and the fact that you said he went with his kids. For your information, a K1 visa is a visa issued to the fiancé or fiancée of a United States citizen to enter the United States. A K-1 visa requires a foreigner to marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry, or depart the United States. Once the couple marries, the foreign citizen can adjust status to become a lawful permanent resident (LPR) of the United States (Green Card holder). In addition, before filing for a K-1 Visa a couple must have seen each other in person within 2 years prior to the filing. It is important to collect evidence of having met in person prior to filing and include this evidence with the petition. Considering all of the above can you clarify the following? 1. How did he get his K1 visa? 2. Because K1 visa is a fiancé or fiancée visa, did he have his kids outside of wedlock (not impossible) and the mother of his kids (who is a US citizen) now filed for him? If this is the case, the kids are automatically US citizens even if they were born in Nigeria since their mom is a US citizen. 11 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by bebe2(f): 7:37pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
slimany: The guy no be ajebo ooo, just plain lazy. Na church twist my sister head, she desperate to keep her marriage. 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by bebe2(f): 7:42pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
AreaFada2: W ooohh , it's 20yrs I heard marring a British citizen is 10yrs. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by enomakos(m): 7:56pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
femi4:hahaha |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by AreaFada2: 8:24pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Seanjay: You raised many issues. Very nice. I am not trying to convince you but I will say it as I know it & possible reasons from experience. You were processing to come to UK as what? A professional in a specific skill shortage category, tourist/visitor or student? This is important. Maybe you do not know, but many people reading here will know why. This is a public forum. Were you gainfully employed in 9ja that 3 years ago? Till now? You mentioned that she has lived in UK for 30 years and works as a nurse as evidence of living very comfortably. That may be wide off the mark. Nurses are probably the second professionals I know the most. Their pay in UK is not all that. With long years of service & working overtime, they earn decent. But by far not rich. Plus UK is a very expensive place. The only error your aunt made was to promise things. But maybe she did to save face, appear nice or just genuinely could not redeem it. Now imagine that you arrived in UK and found that you and your kids have to live in her parlour. You will be the first to be on phone home telling everyone that aunty London does not even have a room for you and your family. I remember a close friend years back. A nurse of 9 years experience who deputized for the ward sister frequently. A white girl in her own country o. She had to stay in her colleague's tiny spare room to save money for mortgage deposit. Still her parents had to help out to meet deposit amount. You said you were surprised your aunt has no idea about papers needed to invite someone. Now see it like this: if she has been there for 30 years, let us assume she has been a British citizen for 15 to 20 years now. Why would she know documents needed to invite? Except if she invited friends or family before. Even then, the documents needed do change. You as a Nigerian citizen can you tell me by heart what documents you need to invite a foreigner to Nigeria? The embassy issues visas and the documents needed in a particular country is their prerogative. Your aunt was also very correct to say that immigration rules have tightened. Remember Nigerians used to visit UK without a visa. From around 2001, using excuse of 9/11, immigration laws increasingly got tighter. Even EU citizens in UK right now are not sure of their future status. That would have been unimaginable just two years ago. As for believing they fear your success, it is a very funny way people see things n 9ja. Look, here nobody gives a damn about what you have or do not have. I have cousins in same country that I have not seen for years. We all talk on phone often. Everyone is damn busy minding his/her own business. Some of them have enough means to build fine houses in 9ja but not interested, aside a small bungalow for holiday. Others have nice houses there. So they won't be jealous of anyone. Now to the fate of those I discouraged from coming, I am not in same country with all of them. And most importantly, many that I advised are ok here. Some have even returned home with their certificates and secured good jobs in 9ja. Because they followed the better route of postgrad studies. The point of my advise has always been to avoid coming unplanned. Like hoping to declare as a refugee. Or just overstay a tourist visa. The thing is always simple. If you're determined to travel, listen to nobody. But at least you have been forewarned. That should put you in the frame of mind to bear whatever comes your ways once abroad. As for me, a friend we suffered together froze to death on the street. It could have been me. I chose to come abroad to study, against advice then. I suffered but survived. But If I knew better, I'd have come as a postgrad, not undergrad. 22 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by AreaFada2: 8:34pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
bebe2:I was surprised o. It was those in the game who told me last year. I just wanted to politely ask if they have put papers in. To be honest I do not know about the British marriage one. 95% of people I know used the EU marriage route. Only God knows what will happen to new ones after Brexit. Even some were failed EU marriage cases. But never officially had legal stay, so did not qualify for 10 years mixed legal-illegal stay. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by justwise(m): 8:45pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
AreaFada2: 20yrs is for those living here illegally 5yrs for those holding spouse visa or work permit. 10yrs used to be possible through education but the home office has effectively closed down the long study route 3 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by AreaFada2: 8:49pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
justwise: Wow! 5 years for spouse visa, with a UK spouse? Na wa o. And EU spouse remains 5 years too? All the other categories were always going to liable to change at anytime. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by LaNiger(m): 8:54pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
I could not agree more with the comments posted by AreaFada2. Traveling abroad (Europe, Australia, Canada, America)is not for the faint of heart. People who are legal residents of these countries struggle to get by how much more, someone without papers. We are not trying to discourage anyone, but everyone's journey will be different. You can come to hustle, and make money and you can come legitimately and manage to get by. The key difference between Nigeria and these countries are the (leaders, structure, infrastructure and genuine spirit). If you come without papers, just brace yourself for some suffering and humiliation!!! It is bound to happen, because people will use your lack of papers to take advantage of you. About people not wanting to help others back home, until you've walked a mile in a persons shoes, you should not judge any one. It takes years of people to adapt in the respective systems of these countries and some still barely survive. I was in NYC a few years ago waiting for the parking attendant to bring my car and heard some older men in their 50's speaking Yoruba. They were parking attendants; they were lamenting about coming to America, that even with papers they were barely getting by. After 15 minutes I introduced myself to them speaking Yoruba (i'm not Yoruba) and they were kind of shocked. These were men who had amazing careers in Nigeria, but gave it all up to come to America (Architect and Manager at an Insurance company). They said, that they felt like they had no choice, in addition, some of their friends recommended they do some menial jobs when they arrived. I personally told them that they were better off finding a way to get advanced degrees and return to their field of study. They said I was the first person who has recommended that option to them, after 7 years in the USA. I was heartbroken and shocked; however, I understood plight. The lesson is not to discourage any one from leaving Nigeria, but leaving Nigeria to do what? You need to have a very good plan, because people die in the process of going abroad illegally. If you do make it to one of these countries, brace yourself for the humiliation and suffering that it comes with. All the best and I hope that success finds you wherever you go. AreaFada2: 17 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by AreaFada2: 9:55pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Tyche: Very necessary because he made a mockery of a painful bereavement in the family. The first and senior son/child of a family with 3 kids of his own, all still under 11 years old and a wife left behind. When his dad died a few years earlier, he was now virtually responsible for the whole family back in 9ja. Yet this guy here decided to mock us, that it all never happened. He said that repeatedly. I do not know him from anywhere, he does not know me. Just because he has cheap data to talk anyhow. 10 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 10:29pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by redcliff: 10:30pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
lovelygurl: That one! |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 10:30pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
SixSigma1:lol, you had time to type all this? Mehn Na wa o, no point in answering your questions, I don't owe you further explanations. 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by mmsen: 10:30pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
I actually want more Nigerians to leave Nigeria so that they can carry their silly customs with them and leave space for those of us who want to build a viable country. I find it funny how some people are so quick to run away from Nigeria but will not leave behind the practices and beliefs/superstitions that are the reason for their hardship. 12 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by AnthonyAk(m): 10:32pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Here and naija is the same. If you cant get work out here its wayy worse. Id rather be a slave in naija than here. If your not starting your Immigration journey with education your in for a life of hardship. Once i get enough experience and my passport im coming home. 6 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by aolawale025: 10:32pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
If one has something going here. It's easier to make it here than there 3 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Odingo1: 10:33pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
poshestmina:NO,many are telling the truth,life is more difficult abroad if you come with visiting visa and refuse to go back,they are trying to avoid the hardship the person will pass through by advising the person not to come 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by 3RNEST(m): 10:36pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
No Place like home, God know why he place you in naija! Who no go no know!! Travel for visit NOT to stay!....speakinq from experience 3 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by BentSpoon(m): 10:37pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
Me when someone tries to discourage me from going to Malaysia. 3 Likes
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Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by bebe2(f): 10:39pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
AreaFada2: These pple are not smiling oo Hm, u trust my pple sha |
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