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Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by tobaseye: 5:38am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Op is being inimical with the reality of living in abroad. I took time to read all the comments, and all the intended migrants need to know about life in abroad has been fully explained. The question I usually ask people is that what exactly are you coming to do? and with what type of visa? knowing fully well they have visit or tourist visa in mind which does not even give them access to work.The notion that they have seen people that did travel with visit visa for many years that have not returned back home is actually boosting their confidence. But they do not know the condition of life those people are living and also that, what worked for people in the past may not be attainable now because of changes in immigration laws. I for one can't even advice anyone to come to the UK even for studies now if their intention is to stay back after completing your studies. Because the chances of getting a company to sponsor their visa is very very slim. And considering the amount money involved and even the value of the certificate when you are back to Nigeria considering the present level of unemployment now. 99% of the students we came together are back to Nigeria not because they didn't want to stay back but because they couldn't get sponsors and they don't want to stay illegally which does not even make any sense. Majority are now regretting why they came in the first place as majority of them have not been able to secure job in Nigeria because of the situation of the country at the moment. They are regretting because they could have considered other countries that give post studies visa or you their invested their money in business in Nigeria. My take is that if you want to travel weigh your options very well and be sure you have a solid plan. As for student visa, UK is not the best of place to come now. Consider countries that give post studies visa. At least you will have time to sort out your papers and also work and earn back part of your tuition and maintenance fees if not all during that period. By and large, it takes someone already in abroad to understand the logic. Besides Nigeria is not moimoi at the moment I was there was Xmas last year things are not just adding up and recession is biting hard. May God help our country..And save us from the hands of bad rulers........ There is no place like home take it or leave it. 19 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by ezeegolimited30(m): 5:38am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Let me use DUBAI or Arab country where I dey now as example.if u are not coming there for business purposes am suggesting u stay back in nigeria.half of piple who travel there leaves in regret and are trapped without the option of returning back.all because they ignore Advice 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Livefreeordieha(m): 5:48am On Apr 29, 2017 |
OluDare01:gadamn it..you are the best outta the lots ..you said all I could have...if you Don't live on credit you literally be living from hand to mouth or assist with some side black deals..it only becomes easy if u have a working partner and u split responsibilities/bills..like this u could have a supposed normal life..every con3 aside nja is organized u give back almost all u earn from them in a month..so if I tell u I earn 2600euros a month u ignorantly /greedily won't ask how much is my tax,rent,phone bills,light,water,gabbage,internet/tv box etc..and not to mention that house rent for a month here is wat u lots pay a year back home.. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by odimbannamdi(m): 5:49am On Apr 29, 2017 |
AreaFada2: You sound like u have been in the diaspora for donkey years 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by OluDare01(m): 5:54am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Livefreeordieha:Exactly! Only my parents and siblings understand me,others don't. My uncle lives in New York,he pays $2k/month as rent. That's a lot of money that when people ask him for money and he doesn't respond, I feel his pain. There's this Naija mentalitywe need to drop. If you travel without a plan,reality sets in and you become stranded. Life is good here but at a cost. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by goldedprince: 5:59am On Apr 29, 2017 |
abroad is not for everybody. if you are not mentally smart, u cant survive. if you cant endure pain, you cant survive. if you want it easy, then you have to be hot as hell, by that, i mean, if you are a guy, you have to be hot and sexy to the point that atleast 8 out of 10 ladies wont be able to resist you. seriously, on my first trip abroad, i was taken care of by ladies. yes you have to know how to satisfy them too. u know the health risk that comes with that right. its not everyone that might be lucky like me, but if you are sexy, smart and know how to use ur tool, abroad go sweet you die. these girls no dey play with sexy BBC at all. unlike naija wey these annoying oloshos go dey disturb you for money, there na over correct babes go they pay you. remember u have to be hot. six packs is compulsory. well to cut the very long story short, if you go to abroad for gigolo work and you are hot, then you are in heaven on earth. on the other hand, if you are ready to go through the stress that comes with money without using your tool, then you are also welcome. 6 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Lexusgs430: 5:59am On Apr 29, 2017 |
nextstep: Who tells you every maid earns $10, did not migrate independently pays Tax and not having flexible housing arrangements with an employer? |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Totfulguy: 6:00am On Apr 29, 2017 |
bebe2: You are the kind of people that fall in the hands of traffickers. You think when you hear abroad its a street paved with gold? Am sorry for you. Watch this brief "Nigerian movie" and see what is happening to our girls abroad https://www.facebook.com/nk.ibeh/videos/1340638816047138/ 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Bandeco(m): 6:07am On Apr 29, 2017 |
opribo:Your post made sense until you wrote that faux pas @ bolded. How can you write that deep belief in God (which to me is a fictional character) constitute blessing to Nigeria. On the contrary, god/Allah and their religions are a bane to our country. 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Livefreeordieha(m): 6:08am On Apr 29, 2017 |
OluDare01:I know bro..its funny the way u hear send me even if na 100euros..lol 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Dnockeror333(m): 6:09am On Apr 29, 2017 |
justwise: Then tell me when the thread begins. I love to bounce here JUSTWISE! 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:10am On Apr 29, 2017 |
its ![]() |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by judgedredd22(m): 6:10am On Apr 29, 2017 |
claremont: stop sounding naive and saying what you don't know... a lot of companies in europe and US give personal drivers to high ranking officers... mostly private firms that operate globally! 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Rilwayne001: 6:10am On Apr 29, 2017 |
sukkot: So you don't have children yet? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:12am On Apr 29, 2017 |
OluDare01:exactly "At a cost" 2,000 can get u what in Nigeria? A business an he'd only using that money to house himself by the month in the US ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Dnockeror333(m): 6:15am On Apr 29, 2017 |
bebe2: AND SEE, are you runing away from poverty? A truely poor soul thus not look nigher into eternity. What can we lay tge righteous soul then? Remove your eyes from poverty. Its well with us. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by OluDare01(m): 6:17am On Apr 29, 2017 |
MissCheezyPuff:Lol,he was a church mouse in Naija. He won visa lottery so he's doing well now. When I was in Naija,anytime he travel back home,na singlets him dey bring for me lol. But after I did the processing myself and got here,he come dey do me well. The key is to cross the border legally,things would be fine if you're legal 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by OluDare01(m): 6:18am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Livefreeordieha:Lol |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by OluDare01(m): 6:20am On Apr 29, 2017 |
I forgot to add this, if you're a guy girls would like you o ![]() I get dem plenty for my neck now,thank God I no dey look their face. If you've got a good grade,come here for graduate studies,that's your best bet. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by odimbannamdi(m): 6:22am On Apr 29, 2017 |
bjhaid: Oga, call your bro to tell you the truth. 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by iaatmguy(m): 6:22am On Apr 29, 2017 |
salford:gbam, you hit the nail on the head |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:24am On Apr 29, 2017 |
OluDare01:different topic. I'm not talking about the How Non Americans come over but how life in a 1st world country is comfort at a cost. u will pay here . u could have used that money at home to own a business There a opportunities gallore in 3rd world countries because they have less luxuries/necessities U can provide an be rich But not just that there are doctors ,businesses/Companies,schools,Universities and everything else in Nigeria same as the US where thy can work why not get a degree an good job there? ![]() Foreigners claim they want opportunity and a better life in America but what they want is a. Easy/comfortable life in a premade country ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by nextstep(m): 6:26am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Lexusgs430: It's a wash... If you don't pay tax, then you're likely earning a bit less, since it's under the table. And if you've got living arrangements with your employer, then you're likely earning even less. You might go up to $13 or even $15/hour, but that's on the high end for house help, and you'd be lucky to pick up a lot of hours at that rate. Yes there are some who are extremely lucky, but the estimates I gave are not too far off. If you don't have a sponsor you have to repay, then view it as replenishing the savings you had to sacrifice for the trip. The point is, unless you're a professional (which likely means you had to get a 4-year degree abroad - more debt there), it's very difficult to "make it" with service labour. When I consider the people who stay here and become well-to-do with the same investment they would have used to travel, it's puzzling that those with the means to travel don't invest at home. Afterall, gathering almost 1M means you're not dirt poor. Those with the means to go abroad complain about how hard life is in Naija - as they type on their expensive phone, drop 500naira on beer, rock expensive clothing, and sit around waiting for an opportunity to drop in their laps. If they spent 1/2 the time actually using their energy and money wisely, they would have made it. Honestly, for every 1 that goes to wash plate or become mayguard abroad, I can show you 1 very successful business person who became wealthy here in Naija: property developers, importers, traders, farmers, logistics, snack sellers, etc. How many mansions have been built by been-tos? How many by those living here? How many over there can pay cash for their children's birth or college education? Or pay rent for 2 years? Or pay cash for a car? |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by mikolo80: 6:28am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Saintsquare:don't come without papers or you will suffer. simple 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:28am On Apr 29, 2017 |
AreaFada2: Now, I'm not a big fan of traveling abroad, in fact I can only travel very legitimately and probably for education or training purposes. That being said, are you trying to tell me there are no bills to pay in Nigeria? Heck people pay for energy bills for darkness here, any average taxi driver pays about five different taxes every morning after having to deal with the high cost of substandard fuel, bad roads and the attendant maintenance implications. Talk about homelessness, I want you to google about the recent happenings in a riverine Lagos community called otodo gbame, I don't wish to talk the thousands living in market and under bridges since time immemorial. I would never encourage someone to do something I'm not willing to do, namely living illegally in an alien country, but you're just making it sound like it's roadblock over there. How can someone be doing a very laborious job for 10hours a day for 6days a week and takes home a paltry sum at the end of one solid month, someone with an engineering degree, plus good grade, teachable, actually knowledgeable, and he's still considered fortunate o, because the guy next to him couldn't even find a "job" to suffer for his daily bread like him. Running isn't the solution here, but please stop with your abroad is hell, that logic is flawed, 9 Likes |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:30am On Apr 29, 2017 |
bebe2:Jesu. I'm reading your replies and i feel like killing you. I thought you will not reply even that first one because it was written denial. See, even if living in naija is not hell, the average person feels the heat and would love to relocate. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by OluDare01(m): 6:30am On Apr 29, 2017 |
MissCheezyPuff:Gotcha! Yeah life here does come at a cost. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:30am On Apr 29, 2017 |
OP lives in the UK too, so maybe you should answer the question, what is it you are trying to prove with this your write up? 1 Like |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by mikolo80: 6:33am On Apr 29, 2017 |
helpyom:plenty of work to do. very lady country |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Basalt(m): 6:34am On Apr 29, 2017 |
AreaFada2: And the discouraging RAP continues. Always bringing out ugly scenarios. Have you given a case of someone making it there or Do you mean all the people that come there always die on the long run. Stop discouraging people from coming abroad, Nigeria ain't any better. |
Re: Dear Nigerians In Diaspora, Is This Wickedness Or Selfishness? by Nobody: 6:35am On Apr 29, 2017 |
Reni1: Bruh, my condolences to your friend...I can feel his pain. But $15k was too much for that stuff nah. It shouldn't have been more than $10k max! wow, after being on the conditional green card for 2 years, the wife withdrew the I-485 petition...that was evil! ![]() I guess the b.itch was a ghetto a.ss akata mama ![]() 4 Likes |
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