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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by mialate: 1:35pm On Apr 28, 2017
Thanks house cc Ekpotek I have picked up and was refused Refusal point1: I am single with no dependent children (please who wants to marry so we can apply together next year >: grin)
Point 2: I havent shown any economic tie to Nigeria except my pension savings. He or she isn't satisfied that at the end of my visit I would return home. Also stated I intend to spend 1670 pounds (flight n local transport 690.living expenses 200. Ibis budget hotel 780) kindly note salary 282, 000 after tax n pension. Account balance N 2.388.000.
Hmmmm. Thank God my passport came home safely.
It visited on my behalf. quote author=mialate post=55979858]Thanks Ekpotek. I will do that. God bless you [/quote]
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 2:08pm On Apr 28, 2017
Hello all,

I am based in the UK and my wife just joined me over a year ago. Now she is preggers. I want to invite my mother inlaw to visit us from Nigeria just in time for the delivery of the baby, say for 6 months.

My mother inlaw is over 60 and was/is a house wife with no bonds nor pension. She just has a bank account with her maintenance money which we send to her periodically. I am the one to sponsor her and she would stay at my place.

I understand all visitor visas are grouped under standard vsisitor visa now. Who has experienced this or who has an idea of what is expected of me for the application please?

Cheers
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 7:07pm On Apr 28, 2017
mialate:
Thanks house cc Ekpotek I have picked up and was refused Refusal point1: I am single with no dependent children (please who wants to marry so we can apply together next year >: grin)
Point 2: I havent shown any economic tie to Nigeria except my pension savings. He or she isn't satisfied that at the end of my visit I would return home. Also stated I intend to spend 1670 pounds (flight n local transport 690.living expenses 200. Ibis budget hotel 780) kindly note salary 282, 000 after tax n pension. Account balance N 2.388.000.
Hmmmm. Thank God my passport came home safely.
It visited on my behalf. quote author=mialate post=55979858]Thanks Ekpotek. I will do that. God bless you

@Mialate. Sorry to hear about your refusal. It is very painful after one have put in everything to make it work. The reasons for the refusal is petty as I know a lot of single applicants getting visa. It's just hard luck.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 7:12pm On Apr 28, 2017
Brightingsus:
Hello all,

I am based in the UK and my wife just joined me over a year ago. Now she is preggers. I want to invite my mother inlaw to visit us from Nigeria just in time for the delivery of the baby, say for 6 months.

My mother inlaw is over 60 and was/is a house wife with no bonds nor pension. She just has a bank account with her maintenance money which we send to her periodically. I am the one to sponsor her and she would stay at my place.

I understand all visitor visas are grouped under standard vsisitor visa now. Who has experienced this or who has an idea of what is expected of me for the application please?

Cheers

Yes all visitor visas are grouped under standard visitor. You have no problem just filled the online application on her behalf and provide all the necsssry documents. You may need to have someone accompany her to the TLS centre for submission.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 7:31pm On Apr 28, 2017
ekpotek:


Yes all visitor visas are grouped under standard visitor. You have no problem just filled the online application on her behalf and provide all the necsssry documents. You may need to have someone accompany her to the TLS centre for submission.

I was wondering cos I am not quite sure what documents I need to supply. The site is so generic with info and it's not quite clear with specifics.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Solatium(m): 7:44pm On Apr 28, 2017
mialate:
Thanks house cc Ekpotek I have picked up and was refused Refusal point1: I am single with no dependent children (please who wants to marry so we can apply together next year >: grin)
Point 2: I havent shown any economic tie to Nigeria except my pension savings. He or she isn't satisfied that at the end of my visit I would return home. Also stated I intend to spend 1670 pounds (flight n local transport 690.living expenses 200. Ibis budget hotel 780) kindly note salary 282, 000 after tax n pension. Account balance N 2.388.000.
Hmmmm. Thank God my passport came home safely.
It visited on my behalf. quote author=mialate post=55979858]Thanks Ekpotek. I will do that. God bless you

This is discriminatory,it has never been heard anywhere that you are denied a visa based on your marital status,i'm cork sure if it were based on sexual orientation this would have sparked some outrage......Do not reapply without asking for a review on this
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 9:02pm On Apr 28, 2017
Solatium:


This is discriminatory,it has never been heard anywhere that you are denied a visa based on your marital status,i'm cork sure if it were based on sexual orientation this would have sparked some outrage......Do not reapply without asking for a review on this

@Mailata. I absolutely agree with@Solatium that you should write for a review. Eventough they may not over turn the ECO decision, the review will be kept in your file for future reference in case you apply again.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 9:14pm On Apr 28, 2017
Brightingsus:


I was wondering cos I am not quite sure what documents I need to supply. The site is so generic with info and it's not quite clear with specifics.

Document from your side
Copy of your passport data page
Copy of your wife passport data page
Utility bill as proof of address
6 month bank statement
Employment contract paper
Letter of invitation of your mother in law written to British high commission in Nigeria. The letter should basically state that you are inviting your mother in law for xxxx purpose. How long she will spent and that you will be responsible for her trip and accommodation.

Document on your mother in law side
6 month bank statement
Photos of her with you/daughter in Nigeria etc
Any documents to proof existing relationship such telephone call log etc.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by oluvicki(m): 10:02pm On Apr 28, 2017
Good evening everyone, please house i would like to know the total cost of obtaining a Vist Visa to UK, as it was been visited for about 3 weeks 4 years ago. Thanks
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by mialate: 10:12pm On Apr 28, 2017
Thanks Ekpotek very petty I must say but oh well life goes on.
ekpotek:


@Mialate. Sorry to hear about your refusal. It is very painful after one have put in everything to make it work. The reasons for the refusal is petty as I know a lot of single applicants getting visa. It's just hard luck.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by mialate: 10:17pm On Apr 28, 2017
In fact very discriminatory and the ECO took the decision on Saturday (22nd April) didn't know they work on Saturdays. Apparently he or She didn't go through my scanned documents just decided looking at my online application. And dropped full name on my refusal note.
Solatium:


This is discriminatory,it has never been heard anywhere that you are denied a visa based on your marital status,i'm cork sure if it were based on sexual orientation this would have sparked some outrage......Do not reapply without asking for a review on this
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by mialate: 10:20pm On Apr 28, 2017
Yea. How do I go about the review thing because he or she needs to change that mindset. Thanks
ekpotek:


@Mailata. I absolutely agree with@Solatium that you should write for a review. Eventough they may not over turn the ECO decision, the review will be kept in your file for future reference in case you apply again.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Vicjustice: 10:20pm On Apr 28, 2017
b1211:
Hi @Vicjustice, @Ekpotek, and every member on here, keep up the good work guys. I need your opinion in regards a situation.

My family and I are planning on visiting the U.K for 2-3weeks holiday. My wife and I have been married for over a year and we have a 9months old baby. We intend getting a 6months U.K visa for myself and our baby as it will be our first time, my wife still has a valid U.K visa. We plan on visiting in 2months but intend to have the visa processed immediately but we have a situation.
I am currently out of job almost a year now but my personal savings account with every now and then debit and credit transactions has about 350k naira balance in it. We intend indicating my wife as a sponsor (her savings account balance is 1.4m or thereabout), her salary account balance is less than 300k naira (she has been at her job for over a year). But she has a UK bank account in her name that she uses in collecting rent every month from her late dad's property that she manages and pays service charge on the flat.. with a balance of about 8000 pounds or thereabout in it. We will be staying at the property while visiting, hence there wont be additional accomodation cost/expenses.

*What would your expert advise/opinion be in regards how to go about the application?
*Should we go ahead and present her to be the sponsor on the form?
*Do we include her savings account with 1.4m in it? Or Her U.K bank account statement with 8000pounds in it? or Both? And also include my own savings account with 350k naira balance in it?
*Do both my application and our baby's application stand a chance of being approved?

Any additional information and advise would be appreciated. Thanks


NB: She has visited the U.K over 10 times in the last 25years+, had her Masters and BSc there. I have never applied to the U.K, my current passport is new, but i have been to South Africa 3times and Swaziland once in the last 5years on my previous (Lost/Stolen) passport.
The issues will not be about your wife sponsoring the trip as it is allowed for a spouse to be a sponsor, but the ECO could have issue with the total amount in your wife's account (which is N1.4m) because, if she bought tickets for everyone from it, how much would be left to live on?
This said, i recognise that your wife has another £800, plus your N350k, therefore, the whole thing now comes to credibility and merit: and as your wife already holds a visa, and does not pose immigration risk, her baby's visa is almost guaranteed: therefore, i am of the opinion that your own visa would be approved if things are done orderly.
Include the both accounts of your wife and add your own account. Good luck.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Dr9ce(m): 5:37am On Apr 29, 2017
Please there is a part of the visa application that asked that 'What money is available to pay for your initial expenses such as accommodation, feeding yourself and any other dependants (if applicable)?
I have already filled in a portion earlier on on travel expenses, accommodation, and living costs. How is this any different so I wnt give a contradictory info. How best do i answer this. Thanks.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by berildan(m): 6:33am On Apr 29, 2017
Hi all, I intend attending my convocation in june, have a letter from school. Applying from Nigeria, but staying with a friend on a degree there also. Was wondering if this sort of arrangement would pass? I'm also employed and would only be away for a week and have a base salary of 200k monthly (although I've earned almost 100k higher every other month still from my employer). Atm, current balance is just above 150k. Wondering if I can go ahead with the visa application now? or wait till I have much more (although i feel I'm a bit late since convocation is june)

PS: I just returned from a UK scholarship in September. Visa expired in January. Moreso I've planned flight plus living expenses = 400k
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 6:52am On Apr 29, 2017
mialate:
Yea. How do I go about the review thing because he or she needs to change that mindset. Thanks

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/uk-visas-and-immigration/about/complaints-procedure

This site offers some help. Although you not have the right for administrative review, you can still logged a complain.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 6:55am On Apr 29, 2017
Vicjustice:

The issues will not be about your wife sponsoring the trip as it is allowed for a spouse to be a sponsor, but the ECO could have issue with the total amount in your wife's account (which is N1.4m) because, if she bought tickets for everyone from it, how much would be left to live on?
This said, i recognise that your wife has another £800, plus your N350k, therefore, the whole thing now comes to credibility and merit: and as your wife already holds a visa, and does not pose immigration risk, her baby's visa is almost guaranteed: therefore, i am of the opinion that your own visa would be approved if things are done orderly.
Include all the both accounts of your wife and add your own account. Good luck.

He said her wife has £8000 which is about N3.2M!!
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by jossyking10: 7:45am On Apr 29, 2017
Thanks a lot @ Justwise and ekpotek. Please I want to ask another question. In the section where they asked about spouse details. My wife's passport contains her maiden name as her surname because she got the passport before we got married. The surname I am going to write for her must it be the one on that passport or my own surname once we are married. Though she is not going with me but seems there is a space for her passport number on that form. Thanks.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Vicjustice: 8:13am On Apr 29, 2017
ekpotek:


He said her wife has £8000 which is about N3.2M!!
Thanks for pointing that out, i didn't realise it, i actually thought i saw eight hundred Pound Sterling.
Thant means, she is financially capable and worthy of sponsoring her family.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Vicjustice: 8:21am On Apr 29, 2017
Dr9ce:
Please there is a part of the visa application that asked that 'What money is available to pay for your initial expenses such as accommodation, feeding yourself and any other dependants (if applicable)?
I have already filled in a portion earlier on on travel expenses, accommodation, and living costs. How is this any different so I wnt give a contradictory info. How best do i answer this. Thanks.
The first one that you filed is about the cost of the mentioned items, while the other question is in regard to the total amount that you have set aside for the entire trip which includes the costs of other miscellaneous items that are not mentioned, and might accumulate during the course of your stay in the country. For example: if you stated that the cost of your...
Flight ticket: N350k
Accommodation: N150K
Living costs: N100k
Total: N600k

Remember that these fixed amounts do not include the costs of other miscellaneous items like tour bus rides, taxi fares, tickets for events, souvenir shopping, etc: so, that question is intended to make you state the total amount that you have budgeted for the trip to cover every cost both the foreseeable and unforeseeable expenses.
Does this help?

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by berildan(m): 8:35am On Apr 29, 2017
Ah, no replies undecided

berildan:
Hi all, I intend attending my convocation in june, have a letter from school. Applying from Nigeria, but staying with a friend on a degree there also. Was wondering if this sort of arrangement would pass? I'm also employed and would only be away for a week and have a base salary of 200k monthly (although I've earned almost 100k higher every other month still from my employer). Atm, current balance is just above 150k. Wondering if I can go ahead with the visa application now? or wait till I have much more (although i feel I'm a bit late since convocation is june)

PS: I just returned from a UK scholarship in September. Visa expired in January. Moreso I've planned flight plus living expenses = 400k
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Dr9ce(m): 9:18am On Apr 29, 2017
Vicjustice:

The first one that you filed is about the cost of the mentioned items, while the other question is in regard to the total amount that you have set aside for the entire trip which includes the costs of other miscellaneous items that are not mentioned, and might accumulate during the course of your stay in the country. For example: if you stated that the cost of your...
Flight ticket: N350k
Accommodation: N150K
Living costs: N100k
Total: N600k

Remember that these fixed amounts do not include the costs of other miscellaneous items like tour bus rides, taxi fares, tickets for events, souvenir shopping, etc: so, that question is intended to make you state the total amount that you have budgeted for the trip to cover every cost both the foreseeable and unforeseeable expenses.
Does this help?

Thanks Vic justice...This is where I'm talking about

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 9:47am On Apr 29, 2017
ekpotek:


Document from your side
Copy of your passport data page
Copy of your wife passport data page
Utility bill as proof of address
6 month bank statement
Employment contract paper
Letter of invitation of your mother in law written to British high commission in Nigeria. The letter should basically state that you are inviting your mother in law for xxxx purpose. How long she will spent and that you will be responsible for her trip and accommodation.

Document on your mother in law side
6 month bank statement
Photos of her with you/daughter in Nigeria etc
Any documents to proof existing relationship such telephone call log etc.


Many thanks Ekpotek. I've heard a few people say you need to prove she would return to Nigeria after the visit which could come in form of ties. I am still ting to figure out what these would be as she is in a rented apartment and was not quite employed to have pension.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 10:23am On Apr 29, 2017
Brightingsus:



Many thanks Ekpotek. I've heard a few people say you need to prove she would return to Nigeria after the visit which could come in form of ties. I am still ting to figure out what these would be as she is in a rented apartment and was not quite employed to have pension.

At her age which is over 60 will count in her favour as you keeping her in the UK will be a burden to you. This the ECO knows. Proofing ties to return are for younger applicants who are capable of getting illegal employment in the UK or over staying. I think there is information somewhere that permit you to bring your parents over 70 years to come and live with you permanently in the UK. Others gurus can also contribute here.

Tailored your application to show that she is depended on you for everything including accommodation, monthly upkeep etc.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 10:25am On Apr 29, 2017
berildan:
Ah, no replies undecided


With current balance of N150K. You do not stand a chance. You must have a balance of close to 1M
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 12:00pm On Apr 29, 2017
ekpotek:

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At her age which is over 60 will count in her favour as you keeping her in the UK will be a burden to you. This the ECO knows. Proofing ties to return are for younger applicants who are capable of getting illegal employment in the UK or over staying. I think there is information somewhere that permit you to bring your parents over 70 years to come and live with you permanently in the UK. Others gurus can also contribute here.

Tailored your application to show that she is depended on you for everything including accommodation, monthly upkeep etc.


Need I mention my wife, who joined me last year on spouse settlement visa, has a sister in this UK as well. However my wife's sister has a pending application to stay here in the UK which has not been decided on. Do I need to include my wife's sister's name too as well as my wife as family in the UK? We would prefer not to include my wife's sister as her application to remain in the UK is still pending.

Anyway I, as well as my wife's sister regularly send my mother inlaw money monthly which contributes to most of her livelihood. If it shows in her bank account; would the ECO, or whoever deciding the application, say that she depends more on UK family funds, thereby a greater chance that she might want to remain in the Uk and not go back? Someone told me we need to tailor my mother inlaw's visit application to such that most of her livelihood comes from funds her children in Nigeria maintain her with. My mother inlaw has my wife and my wife's sister in the UK and three other children in Nigeria.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 12:17pm On Apr 29, 2017
Brightingsus:



Need I mention my wife, who joined me last year on spouse settlement visa, has a sister in this UK as well. However my wife's sister has a pending application to stay here in the UK which has not been decided on. Do I need to include my wife's sister's name too as well as my wife as family in the UK? We would prefer not to include my wife's sister as her application to remain in the UK is still pending.

Anyway I, as well as my wife's sister regularly send my mother inlaw money monthly which contributes to most of her livelihood. If it shows in her bank account; would the ECO, or whoever deciding the application, say that she depends more on UK family funds, thereby a greater chance that she might want to remain in the Uk and not go back? Someone told me we need to tailor my mother inlaw's visit application to such that most of her livelihood comes from funds her children in Nigeria maintain her with. My mother inlaw has my wife and my wife's sister in the UK and three other children in Nigeria.

Yes you have to disclosed your wife sister details. This disclosure does not in any way affect your wife sister application. The home office has extensive investigative ability so there is no need to hide this inform.

There is a strong compelling reason for your mother in law to visit. This is what you must proof with evidence. The most important thing is to demonstrate that you have adequate funds to sponsor her visit. The home office already have a file on you since you successfully sponsored your wife.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Dr9ce(m): 12:49pm On Apr 29, 2017
Dr9ce:

Thanks Vic justice...This is where I'm talking about
@ekpotek, @just wise your candid opinion is needed

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Solatium(m): 1:05pm On Apr 29, 2017
mialate:
Yea. How do I go about the review thing because he or she needs to change that mindset. Thanks


There is no known format of doing that,just put pen to paper and write anything logical,your creativity and deep thinking can help you a great deal............A Quick look at Human rights and 1950 convention might be of help,you can look that up and let part of it for your basis of argument.here is some part of it which I culled out that can aid you.



Article 14 - discrimination
Article 14 contains a prohibition of discrimination. This prohibition is broad in some ways, and narrow in others. It is broad in that it prohibits discrimination under a potentially unlimited number of grounds. While the article specifically prohibits discrimination based on "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status", the last of these allows the court to extend to Article 14 protection to other grounds not specifically mentioned such as has been done regarding discrimination based on a person's sexual orientation.
At the same time the article's protection is limited in that it only prohibits discrimination with respect to rights under the Convention. Thus, an applicant must prove discrimination in the enjoyment of a specific right that is guaranteed elsewhere in the Convention (e.g. discrimination based on sex - Article 14 - in the enjoyment of the right to freedom of expression - Article 10). It has been said that laws regarding familial sexual relationships (or incest) are in breach of Article 14 when combined with Article 8. [26]
Protocol 12 extends this prohibition to cover discrimination in any legal right, even when that legal right is not protected under the Convention, so long as it is provided for in national law.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 3:24pm On Apr 29, 2017
Dr9ce:
@ekpotek, @just wise your candid opinion is needed

@vicjustice have provided the answer. You are requested to enter the amount you have available for the trip. I.e. The amount of fund you willing to commit for the trip. Normally this will be higher than the cost of the trip as foreseen and unforeseen situation may arise during your visit e.g. You may require medical attention if you fall sick which you must pay for if you do not have a health travel insurance.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by mialate: 5:37pm On Apr 29, 2017
Thanks Solarium.I will get to writing.
Solatium:



There is no known format of doing that,just put pen to paper and write anything logical,your creativity and deep thinking can help you a great deal............A Quick look at Human rights and 1950 convention might be of help,you can look that up and let part of it for your basis of argument.here is some part of it which I culled out that can aid you.



Article 14 - discrimination
Article 14 contains a prohibition of discrimination. This prohibition is broad in some ways, and narrow in others. It is broad in that it prohibits discrimination under a potentially unlimited number of grounds. While the article specifically prohibits discrimination based on "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status", the last of these allows the court to extend to Article 14 protection to other grounds not specifically mentioned such as has been done regarding discrimination based on a person's sexual orientation.
At the same time the article's protection is limited in that it only prohibits discrimination with respect to rights under the Convention. Thus, an applicant must prove discrimination in the enjoyment of a specific right that is guaranteed elsewhere in the Convention (e.g. discrimination based on sex - Article 14 - in the enjoyment of the right to freedom of expression - Article 10). It has been said that laws regarding familial sexual relationships (or incest) are in breach of Article 14 when combined with Article 8. [26]
Protocol 12 extends this prohibition to cover discrimination in any legal right, even when that legal right is not protected under the Convention, so long as it is provided for in national law.



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