Donsammi:



lol ASUkoro.(asokoro)

it's true bro the exchange rate is killing us real bad.
that's why this Yahoo boys are ripping off them whites and spending the money recklessly here ..


*things too are costly here in some places in Nigeria like Abuja where I reside and Lagos tho .


besides have been to Ethiopia tho when my popsi was transferred there.
(ministry of foreign affairs)

on the basis of MFA posting you outside for 3/4yrs it's easy because of Govt taking care of everything!

My uncle works at the same Ministry.
He is currently in China. He is a career diplomat. I have asked him before to connect me to the job, he refused . I don't know why, probably he felt I'm already living abroad

Yahoo boys are hustling, but the are giving us a bad name....
I know a widow who was ripped off by this guys, it wasn't fair, she nearly committed suicide.

I face stereotype atimes on the account of Nigerian fraudsters.
Asukoro or Asokoro na the same thing Koro is involved

Most times, when I use Ethiopian Airlines when traveling from Nigeria , the always stop over at Ethiopia. But I don't really get the Ethiopian experience

queendoreez:


Please ignore your friend, just like i did to mine. Do not get discouraged. All you need to do is have a plan and stick to it. 90% of Nigerians are very selfish and want others to always look up to them while they "form bosses".

Mcowubaba:

Which kind help you dey find

salford:

bro. i started mine with education but i still hear am.lol

helpyom:


Still waiting ooo

vickertony:
What part of Canada is good for msc in terms of getting PR when i graduate? Thanks for your previous reply.

ayodele234:
The honest truth about America is that 64% of Americans can't even come up with $400 in an emergency. I am talking about first class citizens. Even an annual salary of $100,000 these days is nothing in America. I always laugh when most Nigerians living in America boast that they earn more than a banker in Nigeria doing menial jobs. But the banker here is already in his second building while most of them will still be paying rent for at least 15yrs before they will even be able to raise money for a 20% down payment on a condo house. Poverty is defined by where you live and not by converting currencies. If there is any place Nigerians are finding it tough it is in the US.

salford:
manitoba

cosade:


My guess is that she probably didn't pass the conversion exam and didn't want to get frustrated by working as a Nurse instead.

AnthonyAk:


Lol did you finish? What did you study?

salford:

Nurses and doctors are different career paths. Failing as a doctor doesnt mean you have a 2nd chance to become a nurse except you are ready to return to college/Uni for another 4 years to obtain a nursing degree.

Bossman:
For anyone that's migrating here to the US legally, I'd say go for it. As long as you can work hard, you can make it. You may need to go to school to improve your chances of getting better jobs, unless you just want to do minimum wage job. As an illegal, you cannot get any good job. Since you have to be paid in cash. Jobs like cab/Uber driver (A lot of Nigerians do that here in Chicago), etc. are still possible without papers I believe. But the drivers lLicense offices in most states are now requiring proof of resident/citizen before issuing or renewing a drivers license. Only 2 or 3 states are still not requiring that. So, driving cab/uber is getting more difficult for illegals. Just not too many options if you are illegal period! The US has an E-verify thing that every new employee has to go through. So, no chance for if you are illegal.

ayodele234:
The honest truth about America is that 64% of Americans can't even come up with $400 in an emergency. I am talking about first class citizens. Even an annual salary of $100,000 these days is nothing in America. I always laugh when most Nigerians living in America boast that they earn more than a banker in Nigeria doing menial jobs. But the banker here is already in his second building while most of them will still be paying rent for at least 15yrs before they will even be able to raise money for a 20% down payment on a condo house. Poverty is defined by where you live and not by converting currencies. If there is any place Nigerians are finding it tough it is in the US.

pansophist:
In addition to what has been said here, what further contribute to the culture of suffering for many of my kinsmen abroad is their allergy to reading, and get acquainted with the law of their newly adopted home. I know a guy that was illegal but spend all his time watching youtube, going to church but invest zero hard work in transforming his status. He has a girlfriend but could not marry her but again, won't accept or believe advises to stabilize his residency, even with evidence grilling in front of him.

Secondly, many of us live above our means. what is the point of a super big car, a house and an unnecessary flamboyant lifestyle that is detrimental to your financial life and attract professional beggars that are good at connecting their lineage link to you? gold-digging girls and fake friends? the Nigerian culture that glorifies flamboyancy as the epitome and qualifier of success is bad, and many of us are victims of such.

Lastly, many of us do not have a plan and even if we do, do not have the energy to invest in it. Gone are the days where your degree will guarantee a job, or entitles you to one. and shamefully, it's getting even harder. Everybody is feeling it, black, white, Asian, all of us. The western world may be difficult for all, but will be much more difficult for Nigerians that are victims of the cultural baggage deposited into them growing up in Nigeria.

Ralphlauren:


You are very very outdated in your knowledge and understanding of the UK immigration routes.

HSMP has been scrapped. As far back as 2009.

10 years route for students has also been scrapped. You can't spend more than 6 years on a student visa. There is now a limit.

Marriage route is 5 years.

Continuous legal stay for 10 years under different routes means the person can file for permanent residency. This is also a common route.

Which one is "parents route" You can only file for a child under 18 years if at least one parent holds ILR and the child is UK born. If the child is overseas born and under 18, one parent must be a UK citizen.

Illegal residents can file for residency after 12-15 years. Some with children born in the UK can attempt permanent residency after 10 years. The illegals with UK born children are usually the lucky ones as they can claim right to stay using the EU human right laws. However, they have to use a well versed lawyer that can prepare their case.

Please don't come here to misinform people.

Cc. Justwise correct this guy please.

Amhappy:
I think giving someone a positive direction is very okay. Going abroad is a prayer point in many churches in Nigeria so if you guide,you are an Angel . A lot of great dreams has been killed in this country. There are a lot of responsible Nigerians abroad so not everybody is a criminal. People migrate from many countries to the West,even progressing ones not to talk of a stagnant country like Nigeria. Nigerians are strong hearted and hard working people. Most white cannot survive what an average Nigerians face everyday. When my cousin,a nurse first travelled to the UK,she called to say that Nigeria is in hell mind you she was working here before she left. The quality of life in Nigeria is so low. Oppression and impunity is also very high;police,army,agbero,conductor,passenger,employer,politician etc. A country where police flogged a Prof in law in public. A place where SSS beat school teachers etc. Worst of it,the govt cares not about the people. We know it's not easy in developed world but it's tougher in undeveloped world.
We should not encourage anyone going abroad illegally but most people who do,has nothing more to live for. That explains why someone will travel to Europe by road,through the desert to Libya and enter a doomed boat. Until we fix Naija the painful exodus will continue. If anyone wan jand just show him the way and explain the implication shikina. Our economy is bad and Nigeria need the dollar.

Omotayor123:
why all of them come dey die at the end

Tnx God for your life oooo

ugohemma:
Me too is not understanding...
An uncle stayed 35yrs before building his first house in the villa... His brother 20.. My junior brother is also stuck in the system... 6yrs counting yet.. No means of live hood... Education crashed,Permit hope crashed.... They just told the young guy to go marry a citizen...

When it came to me.. I just told dem to give me that money to travel out to try it out first here in Nigeria.. Then if I fail to survive then we can now think of travelling out..

There is nothing sweet like meeting people of like minds,language and understanding... We attime quarrel with a driver or conductor till we reach our destination yet we all shake hands and continue our ways.. No police, no immigration bla bla bla bla... When I see foreigners I feel proud to look at them....

Saturday.. I go cast my bet, sunday, go dance shoki for church... Mondays, go stand for newspaper stand like reporter... Other day na so so Amebo I dey do... Mehn life is easy somehow here cos, u have morthan 3 options to try out if one fail to work out.


MY LIFE IN NIGERIA MUST WORK FIRST.

tobaseye:


To add to your points and what have been said so far......

Nobody is saying those that have the means to migrate legally should not do so. They are only saying don't migrate illegally because you will become a burden to yourself, your friends and relatives, and to the govt.

No doubt Nigeria is hard even the rich are also feeling the heat now by one way or the other now.

So if you must migrate please do it legally and with a good plan. I know people that came in with a student visa and in less than two years before their student visa expires they get married legally to white chick. Note that it was a bit easier for them because they had planned it to come and get married even before they got the student visa and they adhered strictly to their plan. In fact one of them had to travel to London the second day he arrived in the UK to me a lady that was arranged down for him by one of his brothers in London. I guess that didn't work out and he hooked with a white chick thereafter and they are married now. Note.... He had a concrete plan before coming.

Another way is coming with your spouse, both can go through the student visa at different time (Msc and PhD) and beat the 10 years legal resident route. Remember that when one is working the other is schooling. And for the whole 10 years you will only be working for the govt because of the tuition fees. its more difficult with couples with kids but its worth trying though.

I also heard from people that if you have a child born in the UK that you can file for paper when the child is 6yrs or 7yrs as a parent. So couple going through the student visa route can explore this if it's real. Experts in the house can correct me on this and throw more light on it.

I concur with people that said, if you have tangible things you are doing in Nigeria think well before you abandon what you are doing to pursue uncertainties. But if you don't have something worth you are doing why not but do it legally and with a good plan.

That those abroad don't want other to come because of competition is a big fallacy. Who knows who here. Your relatives don't just want you to come with a visit visa and become a liability to them. As most of them are still struggling living from hand to mouth.

We are sharing the hard stories so that you can prepare yourself for the worse case scenario before you come. And who says luck can't shine on you.

Information on how to travel is there on the internet you can read and go through the process without the help of people living in abroad. All you can get from the people in diaspora are bad experiences and discouragement. To be candid that is what they have got to share with you so that when you eventually find your way in, you will know that you are solely responsible for the decision you have taken to come abroad and not be waiting to get support from someone that is still trying to make a living also. And also if they couldn't provide you the help you were expecting from them you wouldn't be blaming them for given you false information about the reality of life in abroad.

And I strongly believe that the best gift people can give is information which Nigerians on nairaland have been doing for many years till date. People still go as far as sharing their personal experiences. The bottom line is that it may go very rough at the beginning but at the end you may reap it if you succeed ni o.

My own personal experience..... When i was in Nigeria I had about two businesses and was making at much as 150k to 250k monthly. Not married but with responsibilities of my younger ones. I left Nigeria 2015 with a student visa. But regretted my coming three months in the Uk after series of unsuccessful applications because I thought been a Certified Chartered Accountant (ACCA) I should be able to get office jobs. Though I was wrong because as a student I can't work full time and most of the accounting Jobs are during the normal working hours. So I had to settle for a factory work which was not even easy to get too. The factory only gives students two shift a week; 8hrs per shift and they don't joke with that because of immigration problem. Because of this only disciplined students like myself can save from what we get at the end of the month after paying bills.

Thank God I paid all my tuition before coming that burden was not there. I pity people that made part payment with the hope of coming here to work and pay the remaining. I can tell you for a fact those that did that didn't find it so easy as they had to miss classes and breach immigration laws to achieve that.

I became so unhappy because I have got so much free time that i couldn't use because of visa restriction and i knew how much i was making back home I concluded that I was not going to stay back after my program that I would return to my business as I still had part of my capital in the bank but it's going to be easy as someone just returning from abroad because I have to do my business differently from the way I was doing it before I traveled.

I latter decided to use my spare time for volunteer jobs, I was referred to a small Accounting firm by someone in my church and I was working for them for free to gain experience two to three days a week. Because my program was Fast Track I only did just three modules and research for the whole of my program and I had so much free time.

So, when my visa was about to expire they asked me if I would like to stay, but they can't afford to pay me. We later reached a compromise..... If you understand what I mean. Though the pay was small but I accepted for three reasons.... 1. To gain more experience. 2. Nigeria was in recession going back home to rely on business was not certain. Because it's an importation business which was threatened by exchange rates and increased in clearing costs. I even tried to send some goods last year I made losses, 3. because I believe i will still be able to do some other jobs. I got the TIER 2........... eventually.

Last year I breached my visa rule, asides from my accounting Job I was also doing a support work. I worked for like 19hrs a day; 7 hrs day for accounting and 12hrs night for support work. Don't ask me when I sleep o. But I was punctual with my accounting job and did like 5days a week for the support work. It's not easy but the money from the support work is the motivating factor.

But, since this year I have slowed down with the support work doing one or two shifts in a week because i want to stop breaching the laws of the land. Please Expert in the house is Support work a social work? Because my visa allows me to do social work for 20hrs in a week.

Also For you guys to know that our fear is genuine, I want to settle down now and I'm scared of bringing someone from Nigeria because of my present situation. Because I have limited access to work and am not earning much too. And the chick might be coming with a different mind set and meet reality when she gets here.

She might not be able to secure a professional job even if she's doing a white collar of the job in Nigeria now and that might not go down well with her. . Also, if I remain on my current job, she will most likely become the bread winner for the remaining years for me to get my Indefinite Leave to remain (LIR). Because she will certainly be earning far more than me as she will have not restrictions on her visa.

My question is, does it really worth it bring someone from Nigeria that does not have an idea of what it takes to a get stay here? Apparently she might not know the value of my current visa. Or I should just look for someone here that knows about the reality of life here and marry?

Mind you, I didn't have any relationship before i came here.

deepchocolate:


Tell me about it . Many people living in the west are just survivors . They made it difficult to take money out of the system.
Last time i went to the bank to take $ 5000 of my own saving , it was like pulling teeth. They wanted to know what i wanna do with it etc...etc... Thats my . own cash jare

At the end of slavery , many negros didnt know where to go .since by law they couldnt own a property .
The slave master came with a system called "SHARECROPPING" .
Meaning you are allow to stay on the plantation. I pay you dimes for your labour . But you can only use that dime to buy foods , rent on the plantation only.
Your hard earn money stay on the plantation or in the system. Thats the real America !
If you have kids , it becomes harder to even evade the system.

queendoreez:


Finland.

Ralphlauren:


Bro, I will suggest you stop the support work. The support work you are doing is not social work. Social work refers to unpaid voluntary work. Your visa allows you to work strictly for your employer and no one else. You cannot earn income from another source.

Your tier 1 visa details are linked to your NI number. If you are doing the support work using your real details and NI, then you could run into serious trouble when it's time to extend your tier 1 or apply for ILR as home office will check your NI records with HMRC as part of their checks.

There are a lot of decent single girls that you can hook up with and get married to in the UK. All you need to do is socialise more especially at a Nigerian church. You do not have to date/marry a girl that's a citizen. That's the mistake many guys make here. There are decent single ladies on Tier 1 and Tier 2 visas with very good jobs (some even own their own homes) that's are a year or two away from ILR that you can meet,date and marry.

Finally, are you acquiring core accounting skills at your job? If yes, go to indeed and apply for accounting roles. Just make sure you are applying DIRECTLY to banks and other institutions with Tier 2 license. There are a lot of companies that sponsor the right candidates. Someone I know was recently sponsored by HSBC. All you have to do make sure your CV is on point and you apply. The big 4 are constantly seeking experienced accounting graduates. As long as you do not restrict yourself to one part of UK and you are ready to work in Wales or Scotland or Nothern Ireland, you will definitely get a sponsor.

You actually stand a higher chance of getting another company to sponsor you as you are already on the Tier 2 category than another person that's on a student visa. It is very very possible to get another sponsor that will do the right thing and pay you in line with your SOC classification. You just need to have the right mindset.

azezola:
U. You can still get ise gbeya gbeya without papers in US

Freeopod:
Wow.. can't believe I read till the last page. All points from both sides duely noted.
Please anyone in the US should mention the legal ways to enter into the US so that those willing to travel can choose the one most appropriate for them.
Those people who won the American Visa lottery, are they seen as US citizens or they are just green card holder with work permit? I have an uncle who won't the visa lottery approximately 20 years ago, I'm planning to speak to him soon as regards migration but I want to know if his papers and documentations as a lotteey winner can facilitate migration of a niece. Thanks Yall

lifeisbeautiful:
Am not here to discourage or to encourage anybody that is willing to move aboard,but to assure you that anyone can survive in any country as long as the fellow has a barbing skills and the person must be able to live in black populated cities or ghetto. No where in the world that black don't barb there hairs so if you have barbing skills you can attach yourself to a barber's shop pending the time you will get a better job and barbers are connected due to different people that visit Barbershop

salford:

You are right...and it is untaxed if not through an agency.

amii131:



sisi mi abeg u fit help me as sponsor make i come germany i can speak german i don learn german.