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Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by ONYII4TRUT: 7:11am On Apr 30, 2017 |
HCpaul: Who told u dat? R u denying the power of God or what? What's the essence of preaching and praying if on ur own u can achieve all these. However, what matters is the interest and motive of the so called men of God. Most of them are serving their selfish interest abandoning d real assignment Christ gave to us. If all d men of God are true to their calling d world will b a peaceful and better place to live. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by 76Naira(m): 7:12am On Apr 30, 2017 |
I don't quite agree with you. We are well beyond just spreading the gospel and deep into the realm of money-oriented evangelism. Nigeria needs more than religion and corrupt politics. izzou: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by DonBenny77(m): 7:14am On Apr 30, 2017 |
OP r are u dumb? Churches are for winning souls It's still you that will call them companies and business centers when they try to empower some of their members Go and cry to d vegetable you voted to build you factories and create employment for you Nansins |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by henrijin: 7:15am On Apr 30, 2017 |
But Jesus did not establish any church and neither did he form a religion. Man did all these. Jesus only came with The Truth of His Teachings to save man. izzou: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Eaugusta(f): 7:16am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007: So many though they don't loud it, I mean the real churches. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by ceda99: 7:22am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Vince77: Why not become one yourself |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by 3mmanhu3l(m): 7:22am On Apr 30, 2017 |
HCpaul:let me tell yhu somethin..... I graduated from uniben, at one point, they decided to restrict the activities of school fellowships....... That was one of the bloodiest periods of uniben's existence..... 'Til today, they cannot make that move again....... Now imagine it large scale, in the whole of Nigeria.... Consequences would be dire..... It's not just addictions my brotha, addictions are just the fore runners of full blown chaos...... Be careful what you wish for |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by izzou(m): 7:38am On Apr 30, 2017 |
76Naira: Lol I quite agree with you sha. But my point is we cannot be depending on another sector or organization for a need contrary to their objective We can't say,because GTB recorded a profit of 42bn,they should be responsible for improving the health sector. Yes,they could build hospitals, but it wasn't the vision and objectives it's founding fathers had,or the aims of a bank. The church, if you are a Christian, was established solely for propagating God's word. You can't blame them for unemployment. China Is successful, not because of religion, remember? I quite agree with you that religion has done relatively well in Nigeria and instead of channeling this success to human development, the G Os prefer to fly private jets,but let's not misplace priorities here |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by gmacnoms(m): 7:41am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007:new churches? New vacancies. If you wish to know? Ask me how. Especially rccg |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by gmacnoms(m): 7:45am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007:don't tell dis to gospel artist and my fellow instrumentalist. Believe it or not, church has really given life to many of Us. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by obyrich(m): 7:55am On Apr 30, 2017 |
petra1:The church has put more people in hell than it has saved. Judgement day is coming. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by matrixme(m): 8:03am On Apr 30, 2017 |
When some people are dashed 10mb when they load 100 naira, they often like to flex their muscles by bringing beer parlour arguments to the internet. Nowhere in the world do people look to the church and other religious establishments for the betterment of their physical lives, especially when they all voted a government in power. The church may only do that out of freewill and social concern, but that is not the primary purpose. Its just the same as blaming medical doctors for the high price of agricultural products in the market |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by seguno2: 8:19am On Apr 30, 2017 |
matrixme: You are so wrong. Perhaps due to inadvertent or deliberate ignorance. Many leading schools and hospitals were established by Christian and Muslim missionaries and people like Oyedepo were saved from a miserable life of penury and back breaking poverty by such heavily subsidised missionary schools. However, the pastorpreneur ingrate has decided to be like the Dead Sea. Unwilling to replicate the same subsidised primary schools that pulled him out of his squalor. What a waste! What a pity! 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by gadaffioba: 8:22am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007: Sorry to bother you. The Church is obeying the Lord Jesus Christ by going to Fish for men. And when those men become transformed they will develop the society. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 8:25am On Apr 30, 2017 |
When u truly know Christ, ur problems wld be easy for u to sort out... did I forget to add that God gives u spiritual insight as to what u will do with ur life ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by gadaffioba: 8:26am On Apr 30, 2017 |
seguno2: Those Missionary schools were created to propagate Christianity. It part of the go a fishing programs. Today the Church is the largest welfare donors to Hospital, Prison and Motherless home. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by VULCAN(m): 8:28am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Religion is a terrible thing. It has blinded the minds of most Christians in Africa. They actually believe that sheepishly following a set of rules and codes and sticking with groupthink is what Jesus came for. How Sad. There are 200 times more Pharisees and Sadducees in African Churches now than there are people who are connected to the Spirit Of God. OP did not say we should close churches. But that is what many people are responding to. OP did not say Churches should do govt work of providing infrastructure etc. But that's what many people are responding to. The ability to read and comprehend spiritual issues has altogether been lost to many Christians because of a religious mindset. Once a matter "appears" to be a critique of Christianity many peoples brain goes into red alert and shuts down. What the OP is saying is that churches should be at the forefront of inspiring their members to make a positive difference within their communities and sphere of influence. That will have a greater impact on Nigeria than focusing solely on street evangelism (which is now more about poaching members of other churches, than converting unbelievers). How people can read the OP and not get that is beyond me. Like I said, Christians were at the forefront of scientific progress immediately after the spiritual awakening brought about by the Reformation of Martin Luther. Most of the basic discoveries in Physics and Chemistry and Engineering that is the foundation of the life we enjoy today emanated from said Reformation. Today you can hardly find Born Again Christians in The West excelling in the above fields as thinking has been rejected by the churches for at least 90yrs. God Deliver The Black Race 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 8:28am On Apr 30, 2017 |
obyrich: The church didn't put any1 in hell. U are responsible for ur actions!!! Oga are u a Christian? The Church can only lead u to the stream, they can't force u to drink... Christianity is not a religion of compulsion, nobody forces u to do anything buh instead, it's a religion of love where u decide willing that u want to serve Christ |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by alizma: 8:29am On Apr 30, 2017 |
let's go a fishing is not a program basically aimed at opening a new church but rather to preach the gospel to unbelievers. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 8:35am On Apr 30, 2017 |
VULCAN: Are u not a Christian? What is stopping u from being the best in ur field ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by obyrich(m): 8:35am On Apr 30, 2017 |
itsmeurLady:I should have said some churches. That's what I had in mind. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Bahddo(m): 8:37am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Since when did the responsibility for building factories and creating jobs fall on religious bodies? What would the government and big corporate bodies be doing while churches are building factories? |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 8:39am On Apr 30, 2017 |
When they wee say u ppl shld go to Church that will help u people to understand the word of God, u ppl wee say no, it's orishirishi church u want to go to. Now u see the results!!! Unnecessary arguments and questions here and there. Know the word of God for yourself!!!! People perish for lack of knowledge!!! |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 8:40am On Apr 30, 2017 |
obyrich: Oh ohkay dear |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by obyrich(m): 8:50am On Apr 30, 2017 |
itsmeurLady:Good Girl. Already bookmarked your thread on Linda Ikeji. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by pedel: 8:55am On Apr 30, 2017 |
izzou:I couldn't have said it better. Thanks. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by seguno2: 9:16am On Apr 30, 2017 |
gadaffioba: The Nigerian church is NOT the largest donor to no one. You should provide credible sources and statistics for your assertion otherwise....... Meanwhile why have those who benefited from the way Christianity was propagated by the heavily subsidised missionary primary schools not replicated that model of propagating the faith? Do you know why? 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 9:36am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by VULCAN(m): 9:45am On Apr 30, 2017 |
Another one who cannot read and comprehend. God deliver us from Spiritual Zombies. Perhaps you can show me where I said we should stop soul winning. Religion hates anything intellectual. You just confirmed everything I posted previously is correct. Let me give you homework although I know you won't even be able to attempt it. Post 5 scriptures where Jesus SPECIFICALLY asked us to win souls since you claim he did so. Pls do this homework and post your results here. It is your Pastor that told you that Jesus said we should win souls and then you think that by focusing all your energies on sharing flyers on the roadside (instead of improving yourself so that you can minister to the material needs within your environment) that souls will be won. A person who is unemployed for 3 yrs is trying to win the soul of a person who has been unemployed for 2 yrs. Being an average Christian you did not even bother to search the scriptures to confirm like the Bereans. FYI Jesus came to Preach The Kingdom of God (which encompasses the economy you mentioned He didn't preach of, despite the fact that Jesus talked about and did so much to show He controls the Economy of those in the Kingdom). That is what he John The Baptist preached. That is what Jesus preached and that is what Apostle Paul preached. Anybody that preaches the Kingdom of God will discover that people will desire to be a part of it and therefore surrender their heart to him. All the leaders you have caught in let's go a fishing why haven't they stopped stealing Nigeria's money? EW Kenyon who was a Pastor and is considered one of the greatest Christian authors said: "Make your brain work. It will sweat, but make it work. It will improve. It will develop until you become a wonder to those around you." in his little masterpiece Signposts on The Road to Success. It was written in 1938 but something tells me you have not read it. Its available free online to download itsmeurLady: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by hpk(m): 10:08am On Apr 30, 2017 |
petra1:COMMON DIE IT!!! GO TO ILISAN THE HOME OF BABCOCK UNIVERSITY AND SEE THE AMOUNT OF JUNKIES THAT UNIVERSITY BREEDS EVERY YEAR AND YA HERE SPEAKING FROM YA ANUS. WHO SALVATION DON EPP?? |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by hahn(m): 10:15am On Apr 30, 2017 |
anitapreeti: 2 Likes
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Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by obyrich(m): 10:31am On Apr 30, 2017 |
itsmeurLady:Welcome dear. Hope you are having a swell time in AKS. |
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