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Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by fyomer: 11:06am On Apr 30, 2017 |
If the early European missionaries had depend on LET GO FISHING alone,Africa wont be were it was today.likewise early Arabs who GO OUT KILLING,"jihad"the world wont be what we have today 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 11:35am On Apr 30, 2017 |
VULCAN: With all these things that u kno, I won't be surprised if u are broke as Bleep.... Anywayz, Silence is the best answer given to a Dundie!! Are u even a Man ![]() |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by itsmeurLady(f): 11:40am On Apr 30, 2017 |
obyrich: Trying to |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 12:15pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
lovethchioma: The post is not an attack on the Church, just a call on the Leaders that they can do much more with the platform, power and influence they possess. Did Jesus not say that he was responsible for one man that was born blind? He didn't blame the mans parents, or government. Where ever he went he did good, he made a difference, he made an impact. All the OP is about is that we start making actual difference in Nigeria. Izzou 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 12:23pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Esdb3: Bro talk all you want, and no matter how much I say, it may not have much impact. But you and I know someone or a group of people who have that much power due to their huge following. The religious leaders. They have so much power to speak against looters, oppressions, mismanagement of public funds and trust, but do they really stand up for the people that they claim to be Shepherds over? Can you name any one Religious leader in Nigeria who is using his/her strong influence to challenge or truly make a stand for the people against grave injustice such as Fela Kuti? One only spoke recently when the FRCN law affected or challenged his influence. I call on the Religious leaders cos criminals, looters, political thieves. Steal what should have been used to make roads and factories, then gift to these religious leaders. And you say we should not call them out ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by ephi123(f): 12:28pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Nigerians are way too religious. If we had half the churches we do with members truly practicing the tenets of Christianity, we wouldn't be here. How do you reconcile having multiple churches on one street ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 12:35pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Esdb3: Government steals form the people and gifts it to the religious leaders. If only they used the funds to create the jobs or made society better, one wouldn't be calling the out. Imagine someone gifting a Private Jet to a pastor in Warri. How do you think Mr? |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 12:47pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
gsogbu: Thanks for commenting. I am playing my part as much as I can with the influence, power and platforms I have, but only beg that the Religious leaders will do more with the power, influence and huge following they have. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Vince77(m): 1:05pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
ceda99: It's in the pipeline. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by heywhya: 1:07pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
I pity you guys commenting anyhow. Have you guys checked the VISION/MISSION of the Church?? |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by gsogbu(m): 1:29pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007: Good, since you are playing your oart, so are they. Every organization has a mission. Theirs is to win souls for Christ, yours is to awaken people to think towards development, the government among other things is to create an enabling environment for the masses. The church is made up of people, many of which have their business es and employees, it also houses both the poor and rich, but there is no way they can give EVERY BODY a job. Anybody that wants to be wayward will be, despite the activities of the religious bodies, but doesn't mean they should stop evangelizing. Many people are offered jobs yet they can't keep it, many roads are built yet they get destroyed. I don't know abt your church or religious body, but i know mine is trying to sanitize the youths towards entrepreneurship and self independence. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by petra1(m): 1:38pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
hpk: The church had rehabilitated many junkies : the church held as many as can be helped .but let me ask Who have you helped ? |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by petra1(m): 1:40pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
obyrich: Explain 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by hpk(m): 1:44pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
petra1:I don't blow my trumpet!!! Which student have you heard Babcock university paid rehab bills for?? Don't come on here and spew what you don't know. Religious enterprises are the major rot in this nation. 2 Likes |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Nobody: 1:50pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Esdb3:Learn to pass your points without insults, you seem to be an adult. That said, this thread is about churches. When a thread about the government and senators not doing what they ought to do comes up, appropriate condemnation will be meted out still where necessary. Good day. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by seguno2: 2:11pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Esdb3: The looters are protected by the church and mosque who receive the stolen money from them. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Jjokke: 2:12pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
The real problem is people like you condemning those that are doing something. At least, they are doing something. Why don't you start the one you're suggesting.. then I'll take you serious. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by seguno2: 2:14pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Esdb3: Do you mean to fund the greed of the pastors and imams who cannot see vision of the corrupt money and reject it? Who is the dumbest of the Nigerian youths? Check in your mirror. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by arrestdarrester: 2:14pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007: Could you kindly come up with something good and sustainable without negatively criticizing another's idea? What is wrong with go-a-fishing? What is wrong in planting churches in and around developing areas? Don't you see fast food joints, event centres, schools and hospitals opening up in new and expanding communities? Abi na mosques you never see spreading into such areas? Our problem as a nation is not church multiplication, its political. Our problems as citizens is not where we worship, its docility. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by seguno2: 2:15pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Jjokke: Is he collecting money that has been looted by our politicians and others? Please try to reason before you type. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Analee(f): 2:17pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
mpowa:well said.pls am interestd n dat andela program,pls hw do i join?am based n ph |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by seguno2: 2:17pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
arrestdarrester: Looks like you don't read the bible otherwise you would not type the above. Did Jesus Christ not negatively criticise the ideas of others? |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by JOMAX: 2:35pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Sibe007: WITH ALL D CHURCHES WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. GUESS WHERE WE WOULD BE WITHOUT THEM. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 2:38pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
arrestdarrester: Nothing wrong with planting more Religious centers. Are these Politicians not part of one Religious group or the other? What is wrong in calling out these Religious leaders for not influencing their followers in higher and lower class in Nigeria positively? Christians or Muslims What's the point in making more Religious centers that seem not to be producing refined, productive, problems solving Nigerians. 2 Likes |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 2:44pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
gsogbu: Very good, kudos to your Church. Thanks again for Commenting, I have passed my message, and hopefully our kids will not meet same Power supply challenges we faced even before we were born, till now. 3 Likes |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 2:49pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
gadaffioba: My point is to awaken us to evaluate what we are expending so much time and resources on. How effective or what is the effect of our numerous religious activities in National development. Do you have steady light yet? Did Jesus not say you are the Light of the World? You are a solution. How many more years should Nigeria wait for the manifestation of 'Sons of God' Should our Children still meet same power problems we are faced with....since before we were born. While we continue to compete whose Religion is better. Whose church is better, which pastor is better....etc. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 2:54pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
gmacnoms: I respect your craft or trade as I am good with instruments too. Whatever you are doing to make yourself and the world around you better must be encouraged. So keep it up. You deserve more, you can get more if things were done the right way in Nigeria. So hopefully the Religious practices can produce better Nigerians, that will make Nigeria better of. Although for so many years now, we have had so much Religious practices and little positive changes. |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Sibe007(m): 3:00pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
gmacnoms: More expenses too I agree they provide employment to some. That does prove a point that if they can have that will and resources to setup that branch that will employ a few. (The pastor, security man, generator, soundtechnician etc). They could also have set up a business (like the Uni business they do), that can employ hundreds and provide food for more families. There are countless businesses they could do to help their members (not the government). 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by vhatpweetygurl(f): 4:26pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Nice oine Op but my take is rather different. The Government should just take a cue from the church and start implementing poverty alleviation programmes,instead of bogus policies been read out without the masses seeing result. The govt can Go A Job Creation, GO Educating the grassroot, Go Counseling within every five minute drive of areas you see Govt based povertyalleviation institutes, well funded hospitals and schools. The same church you are talking about is creating jobs for the masses, hospitals etc A church in nigeria is already into free education funding dont think of only the money making aspect, the church is really helping the nation your observations notwithstanding. Caution should be taken if not the system of govt might return to the biblical days..Theology 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by mpowa(m): 4:41pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Analee:It's not for everyone. Andela regularly make Campaigns/Promotion, then those interested will sign up. The program has already started. So you'll have to wait for the next time they come up with the next campaign. Maybe this year or next year. 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by hero2000: 5:52pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
2016v2017: Comments like this are either mischievous or ignorant. You made it sound that PDP was 'Christian' and APC 'Unchristian'. You say that because GEJ was president, chikena. We know that is not true. There were many religious killings in Jos during Obj(PDP) Tenure. You made it sound as if all was well and good during the GEJ administration. Since when has massive embezzlement become good? Since when has corruption become something desirable (that is not to say there is no corruption in this APC govt)? This essentially 'Christian vs Muslim' dimension to national politics is mischievous. And politicians love it! When Dasuki was sharing money with Deziani, no one talked about religion. When FFK was sharing money with Musliu Obanikoro, religion was not an issue. When Fayose was receiving money from Adamu Muazu religion was relegated to the background. PDP failed. APC is failing. Let us save our country from selfish politicians of whatever party. Stop this Religio-politics! 1 Like |
Re: Enough Of The 'Let's Go Fishing', Why Not 'Let's Go Problem Solving'? by Joagbaje(m): 9:22pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
menxer: And what problem do you have with fleecing the flock . its for the good of the flock to be fleeced. |
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