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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:25pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

You still won't accept will you? You cant provide any proof that Lagos GSP grows by 31.9%!!! That kinda growth would make the world take notice wouldn't it? And the world hasn't. Why? It isnt happening,period. and because you are peddling a falsehood. IDK, maybe i should always have a thesaurus nearby because the word liar sounds so strong, ill look for an alternative word for somebody is economical with the truth. Maybe ill label you a Truth Economist.
The burden of proof lies with YOU in proving how inflation can distort economic growth. (i.e Americas growth) You say 70cts in 1970s america is 1 $ now, ill fact check that.
It stiil doesn't detract from your outlandish claim about the "growth" of Lagos. While on this prove to me whether Olamide on the streets of Lagos eats GDP or garri.
baba, d world has noticed that's y Lagos is one of d fastest growing mega cities in d world. dem no give Lagos that title becos e dey sweet for mouth .
lagos is d only city in Africa that made the cut


loopll e go shock u wen Lagos GDP go reach 500 billion grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:27pm On Apr 30, 2017
MPSA:


That ''influence'' part in the continent is base on Xenophobic grin, Nothing else grin Man SA is the best country in Africa, you must all accept that grin Remove Xenophobic in your mind and face reality grin

Xenophoia is just 1 part of it. The lazy South Africans are another.

Trust me the main reason is that the world no longer see Africa the way South Africa make them believe it is. South Africa is not the Gateway to Africa and they now do more of regional business plus the fact that other Africans are now prove to be more profitable.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:27pm On Apr 30, 2017
MPSA:


Man ! You can't claim the 'Giant' with MAKOKO, Do something about Makoko and Lagos in general, I will declare you as a 'Giant of Africa' grin for now go and play with others grin

Makoko (the only slum in Lagos state) with a population of less than 200k people, in a state of 21 million people.
That is <1% of the state's population.

What abt Alexandria in SA? Or you think we don't know the numerous slums in SA abi?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by DonnieTheGreat: 2:28pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

You still won't accept will you? You cant provide any proof that Lagos GSP grows by 31.9%!!! That kinda growth would make the world take notice wouldn't it? And the world hasn't. Why? It isnt happening,period. and because you are peddling a falsehood. IDK, maybe i should always have a thesaurus nearby because the word liar sounds so strong, ill look for an alternative word for somebody is economical with the truth. Maybe ill label you a Truth Economist.
The burden of proof lies with YOU in proving how inflation can distort economic growth. (i.e Americas growth) You say 70cts in 1970s america is 1 $ now, ill fact check that.
It stiil doesn't detract from your outlandish claim about the "growth" of Lagos. While on this prove to me whether Olamide on the streets of Lagos eats GDP or garri.

Ok sir, am not really the arguing type so i won't be going back and forth with you on this matter. Again if you are as good as you claim at math and basic logic we won't be having this conversation in the first place.

Yes sir,

its a fact the Gdp of lagos doubles every 2.5 years infact it was already on the verge of doubling $131 bn shortly before the recession so it fell back to just $91 billion.

Its also a fact New York is not growing(Its has not significantly grown since 1998. Roughly 20 years) and the little growth it experienced can easily be argued away with inflation and the economic meltdown of 2008 even with the American economy on negative interest rates. But am not sure you know how these things factor into calculating a GDP or maybe the hatred you have for Nigeria is blocking your frontal cortex from processing the obvious stats and data before you.

For the last time sir, visit the link below study the chart, also im really in doubt you know how to calculate inflation so i went the extra mile of finding you an elementary inflation calculator(You can find the link below also).You should calculate the Gdp of New York along with the stated inflation you get from the calculator (Provided you know how to use it grin grin). Then go do the math and see if am a liar like you have been claiming or maybe you are just been naive.


Finally, am alarmed that you said "YOU in proving how inflation can distort economic growth". Seriously if you don't know inflation is the major factor that affects economic growth and performance am not sure we should be having this conversation. But in my infinite graciousness. i helped you with a link that explains in great detail how inflation affects the GDp and vice versa

Cheers

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/gdp/new-york/

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/06/gdpinflation.asp

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:28pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ednite:


I don't know, many leaders have showed up here to strengthen our relations but not your leader. I don't think he have been here for a clear visit, and so ours. .

There are many Nigerians in here, but I don't know where they're hiding
Sell the Nigerians T55 tanks, you guys manufacture them,right? . The americans wont sell to nigeria modern equipment to fight the boko boys.
Did you know, there is a nigeria governor with Ethiopian wife, i cant remember which one. There is already cooperation between nigeria and ethiopia.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:32pm On Apr 30, 2017
MPSA:


Man ! You can't claim the 'Giant' with MAKOKO, Do something about Makoko and Lagos in general, I will declare you as a 'Giant of Africa' grin for now go and play with others grin
loool China has bigger slums ,Brazil has slums, India has d worst slums in . but are these not leading countries remember say dubai no get slum oogrin but is Dubai a giant country; D
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:35pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Sell the Nigerians T55 tanks, you guys manufacture them,right? . The americans wont sell to nigeria modern equipment to fight the boko boys.
Did you know, there is a nigeria governor with Ethiopian wife, i cant remember which one. There is already cooperation between nigeria and ethiopia.

My problem with you is why didn't you ask them to sell to kenya first. Nigeria have gone beyond T55 tanks we have vickers and T72 tanks already.

Besides I wonder why you have to comment on this as if the US is willing to sell to you too.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by DonnieTheGreat: 2:38pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Sell the Nigerians T55 tanks, you guys manufacture them,right? . The americans wont sell to nigeria modern equipment to fight the boko boys.
Did you know, there is a nigeria governor with Ethiopian wife, i cant remember which one. There is already cooperation between nigeria and ethiopia.

Here you go again sir, making false and totally unresearched claims. There is no Nigerian governor with an Ethiopian wife. The only Nigerian governor with a non Nigerian wife is Adams Oshiomole and his wife is from Cape Verde not Ethiopia.

Anyways,
am not suprised. If you don't know basic stuff like how inflation affects a country's overall GDP. how can you tell the difference between a Cape verdean and an Ethiopian. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 2:42pm On Apr 30, 2017
DonnieTheGreat:


Ok sir, am not really the arguing type so i won't be going back and forth with you on this matter. Again if you are as good as you claim at math and basic logic we won't be having this conversation in the first place.

Yes sir,

its a fact the Gdp of lagos doubles every 2.5 years infact it was already on the verge of doubling $131 bn shortly before the recession so it fell back to just $91 billion.

Its also a fact New York is not growing(Its has not significantly grown since 1998. Roughly 20 years) and the little growth it experienced can easily be argued away with inflation and the economic meltdown of 2008 even with the American economy on negative interest rates. But am not sure you know how these things factor into calculating a GDP or maybe the hatred you have for Nigeria is blocking your frontal cortex from processing the obvious stats and data before you.

For the last time sir, visit the link below study the chart, also im really in doubt you know how to calculate inflation so i went the extra mile of finding you an elementary inflation calculator(You can find the link below also).You should calculate the Gdp of New York along with the stated inflation you get from the calculator (Provided you know how to use it grin grin). Then go do the math and see if am a liar like you have been claiming or maybe you are just been naive.


Finally, am alarmed that you said "YOU in proving how inflation can distort economic growth". Seriously if you don't know inflation is the major factor that affects economic growth and performance am not sure we should be having this conversation. But in my infinite graciousness. i helped you with a link that explains in great detail how inflation affects the GDp and vice versa

Cheers

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/gdp/new-york/

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/06/gdpinflation.asp


Inflation in Nigeria is currently 17%, while in Egypt it's 31% and Venezuela is 1500%+. It seems this guy's don't know Nigeria must really be a strong nation. For over 25 years we never knew anything like recession.

Despite shortage of forex we are still growing in many sectors which is pushing us out of recession already.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:42pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Nigeria internet users is larger than the population of the UK. What of percentages? Isnt that what counts?
Check this link to clear any doubts. From the worlds best trusted site on internet usage across countries, and its as recent as march 2017, so it carries faaaaar faaaar more weight than wikipedia.: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats1.htm

I am talking about percentages and not just numbers.
97 million Nigerians is about or slightly greater than 50% of Nigeria's population.
Only South Africa was ahead of Nigeria in the ranking based on percentage!
It seems like you do not know how to use wikipedia, did you not check the reference source of the wiki page? It was directly from ITU (also a world statistical agency).

So you possibly believe your Kenyan ranking of 77% and being the African country with the highest internet usage percentage? Even ahead of South Africa with such a gap?
I think they were probably counting Mpesa banking as access to the internet. If not, there is no way Kenya can beat Nigeria, SA and Tunisia with such a large margin.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:44pm On Apr 30, 2017
iblawi:


Market size, policies, security and others are enough to push Ethiopia above Kenya. In terms of technology and industries Ethiopians too are growing (if not above Kenya already). The also build some military ware on a low key.

Ok i get
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JiggamanGh: 2:45pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nowenuse:
According to International Telecomunication union (ITU)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users

Nigeria has the 2nd highest percentage population of Africans connected to the Internet with 47% (86 million) of the population followed by Kenya with 46% while that useless Ghana of a country comes at 23% (even with their stable 24 hrs electricity).

You see, when people ask, how is the huge Nigerian GDP affecting the ordinary Nigerian. I just see them as plain being stupid.

Nigeria currently has the highest or among the highest middle class percentage population in SubSaharan Africa, unlike countries like Ghana where you just have the rich and the poor alone.

ITU's statistics is likely outdated or debateable because as of last year, 97 million (50% or above) Nigerians were estimated to have access to the internet and were active internet subscribers.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/192485-nigeria-internet-users-increase-to-97-million-ncc.html

We all know that it takes at least a middle class citizen in Africa to be an active internet subscriber. This tells us the huge population, power and percentage of Nigeria's middle class citizens.

Liar 46% of Ghanaians are considered as middle class while only 11% of Nigerians are considered as middle class. The vast majority are poor who lives on a $ a day. Nigeria India and bangladesh accounts for half the world poor.

http://africanbusinessmagazine.com/region/continental/how-big-really-is-africas-middle-class/

https://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/defining-africas-middle-class-a-ghanaian-perspective/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 2:45pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
dude are u saying S.A is d giant of Africa becos some parts are developed . looooll if its by that wan that means Dubai is d giant of d world grin grin

Let us travel 398 km from Johannesburg to BLOEMFONTEIN grin



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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:46pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Sell the Nigerians T55 tanks, you guys manufacture them,right? . The americans wont sell to nigeria modern equipment to fight the boko boys.
Did you know, there is a nigeria governor with Ethiopian wife, i cant remember which one. There is already cooperation between nigeria and ethiopia.
that wud be d former governor of Edo state
and his wife is GORGEOUS!!! shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:48pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


The issues won't be as bad as they were, pls i disagree.
Use your own Kenya for example, the way Kikuyus are dominating Kenya, if it were to be a united East Africa (including Horn Africa) they would just be about 3% of the population. They will be as good as minorities. How can a minority group really dominate the affairs of a country? It would be almost impossible.

Also, such countries will operate a loosed federation system where different states will have rescource control.

What usually causes problems in multi ethnic African nations are the egos attached in being a majority group.
Alone, maybe not, but if they joined forces with the Banganda and another majority. This happens even now in Nigeria. Fulanis can't win alone.

They need an alliance with Yorubas etc. Kikuyus right now are in power in kenya coz they joined forces with the Kalenjin. They can't do it alone.

But, with control of local resources by ethnic groups, it could work.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:49pm On Apr 30, 2017
DonnieTheGreat:


Ok sir, am not really the arguing type so i won't be going back and forth with you on this matter. Again if you are as good as you claim at math and basic logic we won't be having this conversation in the first place.

Yes sir,

its a fact the Gdp of lagos doubles every 2.5 years infact it was already on the verge of doubling $131 bn shortly before the recession so it fell back to just $91 billion.

Its also a fact New York is not growing(Its has not significantly grown since 1998. Roughly 20 years) and the little growth it experienced can easily be argued away with inflation and the economic meltdown of 2008 even with the American economy on negative interest rates. But am not sure you know how these things factor into calculating a GDP or maybe the hatred you have for Nigeria is blocking your frontal cortex from processing the obvious stats and data before you.

For the last time sir, visit the link below study the chart, also im really in doubt you know how to calculate inflation so i went the extra mile of finding you an elementary inflation calculator(You can find the link below also).You should calculate the Gdp of New York along with the stated inflation you get from the calculator (Provided you know how to use it grin grin). Then go do the math and see if am a liar like you have been claiming or maybe you are just been naive.


Finally, am alarmed that you said "YOU in proving how inflation can distort economic growth". Seriously if you don't know inflation is the major factor that affects economic growth and performance am not sure we should be having this conversation. But in my infinite graciousness. i helped you with a link that explains in great detail how inflation affects the GDp and vice versa

Cheers

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/gdp/new-york/

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/06/gdpinflation.asp

Thanks for the little inflation calculator, its now bookmarked.
Of course i know how inflation can completely wipe our growth, i have read alot about the Great Depression of 1930s and how the end of slavery in the US caused massive inflation, wiping out economic gains made under that system. Nigeria's recession likewise led to a similar situation, this being caused by a slump in oil prices and hence federal govt revenues, since nigeria depends on oil revenue for majority of its revenue.
Which makes me wonder, why would you say Lagos is growing at 31.9%(that's what doubling every 2.5 years means). Is there another boom industry powering Lagos and escaping the rest of Nigeria? Abeg, which kain growth ? Be honest
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:49pm On Apr 30, 2017
O0XYGEN:

See mumu.
When the same western index said your useless filthy underdeveloped country has a higher GDP y didn't u fools dispute that ?
It favors u so it's ok but when it doesn't favour u , u claim it's useless.
Ghana is far far better than nigeria that's why u fools are trooping to Ghana like refugees.

The only index Nigerians usually brag about is our GDP and we calculate our GDP ourselves and present it to the world bank and IMF for confirmation.
U idiot, are you the one who evaluates your HDI?

monkey, Chinese and Lebanese are all over Ghana, but it doesn't make Ghana better than China or Lebanon.
Nigerians are trooping all over the world not just Ghana, we are in Niger republic too, does that make Niger republic better than Nigeria?
Compound stupidity!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:50pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Sell the Nigerians T55 tanks, you guys manufacture them,right? . The americans wont sell to nigeria modern equipment to fight the boko boys.
Did you know, there is a nigeria governor with Ethiopian wife, i cant remember which one. There is already cooperation between nigeria and ethiopia.

you mean obasanjo?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 2:50pm On Apr 30, 2017
the University of Ghana Medical center, is Ghana's first Quaternary hospital and the first of it's kind in the sub region ..
arinzeejikonye:



As for the best health facilities in the sub region you aint right,you are definitely undoubtedly wrong,that you came to naija,does'nt guarranter that you have proper appraisal of situations here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:52pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
the University of Ghana Medical center, is Ghana's first Quaternary hospital and the first of it's kind in the sub region ..

OMG! It's very nice. . !

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:54pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


I am talking about percentages and not just numbers.
97 million Nigerians is about or slightly greater than 50% of Nigeria's population.
Only South Africa was ahead of Nigeria in the ranking based on percentage!
It seems like you do not know how to use wikipedia, did you not check the reference source of the wiki page? It was directly from ITU (also a world statistical agency).

So you possibly believe your Kenyan ranking of 77% and being the African country with the highest internet usage percentage? Even ahead of South Africa with such a gap?
I think they were probably counting Mpesa banking as access to the internet. If not, there is no way Kenya can beat Nigeria, SA and Tunisia with such a large margin.
Look at this one. Youre even trying to dispute facts from that towering website about internet stuff. Did you also know we have the fastest and cheapest internet in africa too? Stop trying to be obtuse by inserting your well known anti kenyaness into the argument.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:57pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ednite:


you mean obasanjo?
He is a former governor of Edo state in nigeria. Someone has the story on nairaland, it was trending sometime in the last year
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:57pm On Apr 30, 2017
JiggamanGh:


Liar 46% of Ghanaians are considered as middle class while only 11% of Nigerians are considered as middle class. The vast majority are poor who lives on a $ a day. Nigeria India and bangladesh accounts for half the world poor.

http://africanbusinessmagazine.com/region/continental/how-big-really-is-africas-middle-class/

https://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/defining-africas-middle-class-a-ghanaian-perspective/
don't forget Brazil and China
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:59pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

He is a former governor of Edo state in nigeria. Someone has the story on nairaland, it was trending sometime in the last year

yea, maybe am not right with the name. But I know the man you're talking about exactly
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 3:03pm On Apr 30, 2017
iblawi:


My problem with you is why didn't you ask them to sell to kenya first. Nigeria have gone beyond T55 tanks we have vickers and T72 tanks already.

Besides I wonder why you have to comment on this as if the US is willing to sell to you too.
There is a soldiers thread on Foreign affairs section. Head there and see how some of the kenya soldiers are contributing and get an inkling of the type of hardware we dash. We got bad bad tanks baby. Our boys fight those Al Shabab idiots with FN Scars and M16 rifles. Our military spends big and quality ,its just that with restrictions in disclosing such info to the public, you never get tp see them until they go into action.
I cant believe am responding to you.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:06pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

There is a soldiers thread on Foreign affairs section. Head there and see how some of the kenya soldiers are contributing and get an inkling of the type of hardware we dash. We got bad bad tanks baby. Our boys fight those Al Shabab idiots with FN Scars and M16 rifles. Our military spends big and quality ,its just that with restrictions in disclosing such info to the public, you never get tp see them until they go into action.
I cant believe am responding to you.
mcheeeeww u still dey talk about tanks. Nigeria has nuclear weapons, u are busy calling tanks
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:07pm On Apr 30, 2017
and we will use those nuclear weapons on boko haram someday
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:09pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
mcheeeeww u still dey talk about tanks. Nigeria has nuclear weapons, u are busy calling tanks

nuclear weapons?
undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 3:09pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
mcheeeeww u still dey talk about tanks. Nigeria has nuclear weapons, u are busy calling tanks

Looooollll
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 3:10pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
mcheeeeww u still dey talk about tanks. Nigeria has nuclear weapons, u are busy calling tanks
Complete and utter balderdash. Fail.Try another one.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 3:11pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ednite:

nuclear weapons? undecided
This is how nigerians speak.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:12pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
and we will use those nuclear weapons on boko haram someday
I just laugh at south Africa and this xenophobia if dey continue ,we GI just drop wan nuclear bomb for Capetown, all d tins wey white people don build will be destroyed . but d problem is , a lot of Nigerians will die
if notgrin

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