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Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by fratermathy(m): 4:35pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
darfay: Okay o! You want to pick offence now that I am carrying Isoko along, as if you don't understand the said Urhobo or like you were never part of Urhobo at any point before? Na wa for some of una. I never said Isokos are Urhobos. I only added Isoko to the mix here in order to carry our genuine brothers and sisters along. The issue of identity and loss of language affects both of us. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nowenuse: 4:35pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Efewestern: The thing is that neither the federal nor state govts promote minority languages. So, many minority languages are heavily threatened. Even many igbos complain thag Igbo language as large as it is, it is threatened. The only reason why Urhobo seems quite worse is because this threat has infiltrated urhobo homeland while other ethnic group languages are only threatened because their people migrate away from their homeland to bigger cities and cannot pass the language to their children. Minority groups hardly have an option. Even Bini which used to be spoken all over Benin in the past is now gradually declining and most middle class Bini children and youths in Benin cannot speak the language well (although Bini is still better than Urhobo). In the north, minority languages are vanishing and being replaced by Hausa. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nobody: 4:35pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Wow ![]() She try .. She dissect the urhobo as if there's no tomorrow ![]() Nice one! |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by pepperandsalt(m): 4:35pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
[quote author=Bishop post=56071663] That person na urhobo albino... no be oyinbo
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Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nicho118(m): 4:36pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
dragonking2:it's not about marrying our own tribe o. I'm 100% Urhobo but can't speak |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Sanchez01: 4:37pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
shestrong:Choi! And he never bothered to tell you about learning? |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by darfay: 4:37pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
fratermathy: erhowa is the oldest clan of the isoko and urhobo nation. what they speak is the original proto isoko/urhobo dialect not a mixture of anything sa igbobie(hope I spelt it well) 2 Likes |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by ziga: 4:38pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Why do we celebrate oyinbo when they speak our language? Kini big deal. We have been speaking their language for years. Where did she learn the accent and language? If na black man dey speak with jamaican accent or british/american lingo, una go dey hala say na copy copy. You are only happy when they copy your culture but not vice versa? BTW I'm not against oyinbo/foreigners learning out things. I am against the double standard that most people have. Live and let live. Be proud of what you have, no matter what it is. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nicho118(m): 4:39pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
darfay:many isokos speaks and understand urhobo perfectly 1 Like |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Crownofwealth(m): 4:40pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
fratermathy:make i mark register too 2 Likes |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by EnaibeSam: 4:48pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
It is so annoying that you are in your home town and you can not speak you dialect. There is no Ibo either at home or away that cannot speak their dialect, same thing to the Hausa's. But for this my Urhobo, those at home speak pidgin and those in Diaspora speak foreign languages, especially those in Yoruba land. Many of them will even give their children Yoruba names without giving a single Urhobo name. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by fratermathy(m): 4:48pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Nicho118: Not many. 95% of Isokos can speak Urhobo if they want to. Many just don't want to, for obvious reasons (of which one is that they would be called or identified as Urhobos). 99% of them understand central Urhobo, Evwreni and Uwherun dialects. Olomoro people speak an Isokonised Olomu dialect. Urhobos, on the other hand, barely understand Isoko except they pay attention or learn it for a few days/weeks. Although some Urhobos naturally understand them without learning. Apart from these normal Linguistic differences, occasioned by Isoko's relative isolation from other Urhobo clans, they are practically like Urhobos in everything else. Its just so sad that the politics of tribalism and division had to encroach upon us. Look at the Epie-Atissa people. Even though they speak different dialects, they identify as one. I don't subscribe to these artifical divisions. Urhobo and Isoko are one and the same people. We may not agree to be called the other's name but we know that we are brothers so I generally prefer compounding the names (Urhobo/Isoko). 2 Likes |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by fratermathy(m): 4:51pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
EnaibeSam: You are very correct. I have distant relations in Lagos who rap Yoruba like water and act like Yorubas. In fact, they have Yoruba accent and behavior but they fail to realise that they are Urhobos first before anything else. This prodigal children phenomenon is another thing Urhobo nation need to address! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nicho118(m): 5:00pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
EnaibeSam:oga.. use Yoruba as an example not igbo.. I know many igbos who can't even greet in their dialect |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Jamean(f): 5:01pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
fratermathy: I will like to know the steps you have taken in this regard, I'm really interested. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by fratermathy(m): 5:01pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
darfay: I never said it was a mixture of anything. I said the dialect is "sandwiched between Ijaw and Isoko, with influences from Uwherun". You should have asked me to explain what I meant. Erhowa, in its protoid precolonial form, is the accepted original proto-language from which many of the Isoko/Urhobo dialects are derived. However, due to its little size and the fact that it is spoken in only 2-3 villages, it's people started learning the dialects of wider communication, notably Isoko and Pidgin. Furthermore, because the nearest secondary school to Erhowa is at either Patani or Uwherun, many of its educated people were influenced by Ijaw/Uwherun-Urhobo. So modern day Erhowa has many influences from all of these. Even with the influences, it's protoid form is still present, at least, enough to make it unintelligible to Isoko and Urhobo people. As it is today, younger Erhowa people hardly learn Erhowa because it is seen as difficult and of no benefit in wider communication. Many speak Isoko as first language, all can speak Pidgin, few speak Urhobo and a handful speak Ijaw. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Afam4eva(m): 5:03pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
EnaibeSam:You guys always think every other tribe is perfect. Your Igbo example is skewed though our case is not as bad as the Urhobo situation. The only Igbos we complain about not speaking Igbo are those who live outside Igboland. It would be a taboo for an Igbo person living in Igboland not to know how to speak the language. Even those outside Igboland understand the language. 3 Likes |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Jamean(f): 5:04pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Efewestern: You finish work... can't be better put |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Jamean(f): 5:06pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Nicho118: That dialect that sounds like what doesn't have a name, even my mum couldn't learn it by marriage. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by captain247: 5:07pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
I have met one white man also at Kris jetty in Apapa, our vessel berth alongside theirs and he was told there is an urhobo girl on my ship as soon as he starts to speak deep into the language I ran away cos I became scared this Oyinbo man fit fall my hand here publicly. Most of them are very keen in learning our language. |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nicho118(m): 5:07pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Jamean:Are you from uvwie? |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Sanchez01: 5:08pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
fratermathy:Matty, that is quite harsh. Don't blame them, really. I was born and bred in Lagos too and my Yorùbá would beat that of a typical Yorùbá man who is not aligned with Osun and Oyo hands down, but it didn't stop me in any way. I like the idea of being multilingual as opposed to being monolingual. I could speak Hausa perfectly at some point, but all I have left of it is when I'm bargaining steaks, mostly on Friday nights after work. Lol. The acquisition of an L2 (second language) isn't the problem, but forsaking the L1 (mother tongue) while holding on to L2. 1 Like |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nobody: 5:09pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
dragonking2:That oyibo woman surprises me .her urhobo is so clear that you wouldn't know she is a white lady. The problem can be solved when urhobo indigens decide to learn it not just watching cartoons, movies related to urhobo. I witnessed an oyibo man speaking itsekiri, I was how come? But you know what, he was determine to learn it at all cost. Foreigners and non indigens tend to speak it more than urhobo indigens. This was what I noticed |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by darfay: 5:11pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
this is the problem with the black man @ op and co you have identified the problem what's the solution? Y not you and your fellow urhobos here who know how to speak it open another thread to teach those who are willing to alleviate the problem you are referring them to some village |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Drienzia: 5:11pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
fratermathy:mumu talk |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nobody: 5:11pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Many nairalanders speak western languages fluently......so... |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Sanchez01: 5:11pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Jamean:There is an Urhobo radio station broadcasting from the US already. They have a page of Facebook and have their videos all over. Listening to the radio is a great start. The most important thing is showing genuine interest, else, the entire process would be futile. 2 Likes |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by oyonu(m): 5:15pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
fratermathy: Jesus help me o. Upon all my years in warri an abraka I can't speak ukwuani or urhobo fluently. People abeg speak ur native dialect to your kids while they are young it matters |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Nicho118(m): 5:18pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
oyonu:The town u mentioned is not an ukwuani speaking town na 1 Like |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by deflover(m): 5:18pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Jesus And I can't speak |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by Jamean(f): 5:21pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
Nicho118:Yes |
Re: White Woman Speaks Urhobo Language Fluently by fratermathy(m): 5:22pm On Apr 30, 2017 |
darfay: I didn't refer them to villages. Someone else did and I contributed. I've always maintained that yo learn the language, those that are interested should take advantage of the Internet and watch many Urhobo movies that are online, including cartoons and music videos, all with subtitles. These can be found on YouTube. Those who feel they won't learn through this route should employ a private Urhobo tutor to take them once or twice a week. I've referred many people to Urhobo tutors in Lagos, Benin, Ife, Abuja, and even in the USA and UK. |
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