Tuksgrad:





Hahahaha stop being so emotional. No one said Nigerians don't do good things but the fact remains jails around the world have many Nigerians in them hence people see you that way. Why are you known as drug dealers? Scammers? Human traffickers? Because never a day passes without a Nigerian being on the news in one country or the other for crime, and unfortunately that in the minds of non Nigerians cancels the few good news about you. You can't blame anyone for being isolated and heavily searched in all airports your country men and your president told us all you are not worthy of trust . When there are daily killings in kaduna for example with your government dragging it's feet to intervene , do you think you can have a mouth to talk outside your shores?. Yes you commit crimes in the countries you mentioned cry all want but I never said they don't have local criminals, far from it. South Africa last year published that they had 4000 Nigerians in their jails and Nigeria had 0 of their people in your jails , that is embarrassing and you wonder why they see you the way they do. No Country should have that many foreigners in jail.

Yes and all these many many many bad news cancel the very very very few good news about Nigeria, even though there's a saying that bad news always spread faster than good news, but l don't believe that bullshit because in Nigeria's case it is different. Infact l am from Turkey and l only hear very very few good things about Nigeria from the media, do l even hear any good thing sef? No, all l hear is their crime and the many many bad things dey do and how they fill our jails. I heard some African people commit crime and people think it's Nigeria, but that again is fake news cos only Nigerians do that. Bro l agree with you.

kilo4sure:

Yes and all these many many many bad news cancel the very very very few good news about Nigeria, even though there's a saying that bad news always spread faster than good news, but l don't believe that bullshit because in Nigeria's case it is different. Infact l am from Turkey and l only hear very very few good things about Nigeria from the media, do l even hear any good thing sef? No, all l hear is their crime and the many many bad things dey do and how they fill our jails. I heard some African people commit crime and people think it's Nigeria, but that again is fake news cos only Nigerians do that. Bro l agree with you.

Hahahaha i wonder why all across the world the media is "ganging up" On poor Nigerians? Why aren't we hearing daily about Ghanaians, Zimbabweans , kenyans, Ethiopians etc being arrested for all sorts of crimes from one country to the other? . Oh spare me that bull, in serious countries they don't take your word at face value, they verify your identity. They are Nigerians accept it. I feel sorry for the few achieving great things since if your people don't change will forever live under suspicion like the rest....it's a shame lol.

Tuksgrad:




Hahahaha i wonder why all across the world the media is "ganging up" On poor Nigerians? Why aren't we hearing daily about Ghanaians, Zimbabweans , kenyans, Ethiopians etc being arrested for all sorts of crimes from one country to the other? . Oh spare me that bull, in serious countries they don't take your word at face value, they verify your identity. They are Nigerians accept it. I feel sorry for the few achieving great things since if your people don't change will forever live undergrad suspicion like the rest....it's a shame lol.

And l wonder why many feel Nigerians really care what others think, what many care about is the Government putting things in place, if that happens many productive individuals who commit crime today would have a viable environment for business. I know many great and successfull, hardworking and honest Nigerians in my country more than l know the criminals and we do not need the validation of the outside world because of what many of our brothers do. Even when things are in place, the lazy ones would still be lazy, and those who want to commit crime would commit crime. Nigerians have many things to ponder on than to care about how the world decides to view a nation of about 200 million people made up of so many different communities, some from different empires in the past and many with very different life styles.

Nowenuse:


Yes u are right, but is it really all African women that marry white men for money? Someone like Chimamanda Adichie, can you really say she married a white man because of money?

She's married to a white man?!!! I feel betrayed

MtuMsuper:

You better develop a thick skin when dealing with the likes of 1966 boys like Nowenuse. You don't have to give him any explanations becoz you owe him none and he doesn't deserve any. When you deal with people like him in life ,you better be prepared for some epic bullsh!t, that's his stock in trade. Sad ,but true.



Kenyans who are living in any city/village/slum in nigeria, please come out and share your experience. Registering on NL is easy, if you have some basic computer knowledge. And even if you don't, theres always a first time for anything in life. Use a random name of your choice, nobody is here to judge you, all we need is your input into the discussion. Tokelezea tafadhali.

Thank you.

Hahaha, when countered with hard facts, this is the way you guys evade.
You guys probably thought Nigerians were low self esteem people who will watch you come and display your ill manners here and ridicule us on our own forum without a fierce rebuttal.
Hope you guys know how it sucks too.

Kenyans and most east Africans are not adventurous and are very local people, so don't expect any in Nigeria or elsewhere. Nairobi is the farthest their little minds can go.

The few Kenyans who have experienced Naija will never want to go elsewhere e.g Victoria Kimani who has both American and Kenyan citizenship but choose to base and remain in Nigeria where her music career has more prospects for success.
The other Kenyans in Naija are mostly women busy in deliverance churches in Nigeria or carrying the pregnancies (babies) of Nigerian men.

Tuksgrad:




Hahahaha i wonder why all across the world the media is "ganging up" On poor Nigerians? Why aren't we hearing daily about Ghanaians, Zimbabweans , kenyans, Ethiopians etc being arrested for all sorts of crimes from one country to the other? . Oh spare me that bull, in serious countries they don't take your word at face value, they verify your identity. They are Nigerians accept it. I feel sorry for the few achieving great things since if your people don't change will forever live under suspicion like the rest....it's a shame lol.

Also you are right Nigeria is well known for crime, and ahead of other African nations in that department but you should know that this is nothing new to Nigerians, it's old news.

Kenyanstar:

That is entirely not true... your statement lacks in basic facts. Its a fact that North African countries like Libya, Tunisia and Morocco unlike Nigeria who have same natural resources is that them North Africans have used their resource to enrich its people. Nigeria has used its reserves to oppress its citizens, how can a country being 8th largest producer of oil but cannot sustain any major public funded infrastructural development.
Can you rate Kenya's development record in the last 20yrs in comparison to Nigeria's own record over the same period in this sectors?
1. Transport
2. Currency
3. Education
4. Health
5. Economic

I don't count North African Countries but Europeans like thw French had a slight hand in helping with development and yes they have better Living standards.

Jayceon:
and yet he is in a white country where blacks are being shot by white police officers

I didn't say his logic made sense. I was just repeating what he said. Don't shoot the messenger.

kilo4sure:

And l wonder why many feel Nigerians really care what others think, what many care about is the Government putting things in place, if that happens many productive individuals who commit crime today would have a viable environment for business. I know many great and successfull, hardworking and honest Nigerians in my country more than l know the criminals and we do not need the validation of the outside world because of what many of our brothers do. Even when things are in place, the lazy ones would still be lazy, and those who want to commit crime would commit crime, l don't care. Nigerians have many things to ponder on than to care about how the world decides to view a nation of about 200 million people made up of so many different communities, some from different empires in the past and many with very different life styles.

Whether you care or not the fact that your people are forever complaining about the harassment they get at airports says a lot. I like the fact that you don't care i feel sorry for those who always take to social media to complain about the treatment they recieve because of the stigma of crime. I do wish all the best to your government in succeeding to provide you guys the basic things you need..perhaps then we will hear less bad and more good.

kilo4sure:

Also you are right Nigeria is well known for crime, and ahead of other African nations in that department but you should know that this is nothing new to Nigerians, it's old news.

Yes really nothing new the world at large.

mtis:

Does everything in Naija rotate on one's complexion... if its not about white south africans its about kenyan indians..Dont you guys have white or asians in your country

That's not really complexionbut ethnicity/race. You've just realized now that Nigerians are ethno centric with all our tribalism?

vaxx:
let me tell you yhe real trutb today. nigerians are in ghana becuse it is enabling enviroment to start business. check best country to do business. ghana is ahead of nigeria. accra and lagos are not yet a mega city or can be consider as one.kenya capital is a bit ahead.

another reason nigerians go to ghana is education. there is a flexible approach to education in ghana making education available to everyone.

Ghana is peaceful and secured compare to nigeria. these are just the few reasons

That's true. Nigerian businesses have to spend half their money on electricity if they use generator and Ghana is less cut throat and less stressful and safer ( overpopulation and poverty is a recipe for crime).

nkwuocha1:


If ordinary Benin republic fit get light pass Nigeria, na Kenya no go come better pass naija?

By the way, about going to Kenya, I think I will make that my leave destination. A British friend of mine has been inviting me for long now.

To be honest, yea Nigeria is horrible but its easier for smaller populations to gain constant electricity and we know Nigeria doesn't have electricity because of diesel sales. If Nigerians start protesting in mass and stop being complacent we can see change

nkwuocha1:


This got me laughing .So northerners no be Nigerians again?

Abi I read that and laughed

PissedYagami:

You are typing too much mate. Get out of the house, you are clearly high on generator fumes

This is actually one of the more sensible and coherent things he's written don't mock him.

Nowenuse:
KENYANS should help out here.

One thing i have observed with Kenyan cities is that it is just between the rich who live in very developed areas and the very poor masses in slum areas.
Pls, we want to see the areas where the average and lower middle income Nairobians and Mombasa people live cos you guys can't tell us that they all live in the expensive city centres.

In Lagos state for instance, you have Victoria island, Banana island, Lagos island, Ikoyi, Ajah, Lekki, Ikeja e.t.c mostly for the rich and high middle class people.

You have Yaba, Festac, Maryland, Ilupeju, Apapa, Gbagada, Anthony, Ikorodu, Surulere, Iyana-ipaja e.t.c mostly for the high, average and fewer low middle class people.

While you have the likes of Mushin, Ajegunle, Bariga, Shomolu, Agege e.t.c mostly for the poor and few low middle class people.

Okay, let Kenyans here help to list the names and show us the average and low middle income areas of Nairobi and Mombasa (excluding the slums). If not, this will further prove that Nairobi is divided only btw the rich and poor and will further butress the reason why Nairobi slums are large.

I will also be ready to show the average, lower middle income and even poor areas of Lagos state.

Any Kenyans up for the challenge?

TayserMahiri, mtis, Jay254, Kenyanstar, MtuMsuper, Muafrika2, gallivant

Are you sure you were in Kenya

I'll illustrate with a pic

fanficgirl:

That's true. Nigerian businesses have to spend half their money on electricity if they use generator and Ghana is less cut throat and less stressful and safer ( overpopulation and poverty is a recipe for crime).

But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?

Muafrika2:


Are you sure you were in Kenya

I'll illustrate with a pic

Ok, but it would be better if you can help us with the names of the various places and images too.

Let us see what the average and low middle income areas of Nairobi look like. Not the rich and high middle income areas you guys have been posting.

Nowenuse:


But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?

Story for the gods lol. I've wondered that too.

PissedYagami:

About a century.

That's cool okay you are Kenyan not Indian .

Nowenuse:


But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?

A country that wanted development must pay the price. london is very expensive but you will be fine if you are fully employ. accra is expensive but you will find it lesa difficult if you are engage in business

Hbuyosh:
You clearly have been reding those over-exaggerated reports from those unscrupulous NGOs, whose intentions are to fleece the donors. On Kibera- the supposed largest sluim in the universe, see how the British's The Guardian paper reported on the issue, under the rubric The missing millions of Kibera- Africa's Propaganda Trail in a five part series.

Surely, there is no way even 1million pipo can possibly fit within just 2.45sq.km, which is the total area of Kibera, yet these NGOs state that around 2.5 million pipo live in Kibera. What's even funnier about this claim is that Nairobi has just around 3.2million pipo, but these NGO's would go further to make those wild claims about the other 15 slums in Nairobi having populations varying btwn 250,000 to 700,000 pipo. If u total all that up, then Nairobi should be having well over 10million pipo, all of them living in slums!
The govt census in 2009 revealed that Kibera has only around 180,000, no where near a million as widely claimed by those organizations.
http://www.mapkibera.org/blog/2010/09/05/kiberas-census-population-politics-precision/


Now, would u believe this guy who says that Ajegunle slum in Lagos has around 4million pipo? Did they carry out the census?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO0hQHou1cw



About which one btwn Nairobi and Lagos has more slums..........Google sattelite images are notlying about this

Nairobi

http://google-maps.pro/satellite/Nairobi.Kenya

Lagos

http://google-maps.pro/satellite/Lagos.Nigeria


Just compare the quality of settlements, the number of slums and the quality of the urban planning btwn the two places........

I guess this settles the slum issue.

Nowenuse:


Ok, but it would be better if you can help us with the names of the various places and images too.

Let us see what the average and low middle income areas of Nairobi look like. Noat the rich and high middle income areas you guys have been posting.

Why would I go through all that trouble

The names are on the map. Google theUse this more detailed map...

vaxx:
A country that wanted development must pay the price. london is very expensive but you will be fine if you are fully employ. accra is expensive but you will find it lesa difficult if you are engage in business

Expensiveness of Accra will only increase tax revenue for your govt and truly, yes, it will help in development of infrastructures, but it will be a serious setback to the development of a viable middle class population, as most poor people will find it more difficult to climb the middle class ladder due to expensiveness of basic commodities.
Unless your govt can use this tax money to create numerous well paying jobs for the masses in order to enable them meet up with the high cost of living, many poor people will never be able to climb the middle class lader to wealth.

Muafrika2:


Why would I go through all that trouble

The names are on the map. Google theUse this more detailed map...

And how am i supposed to differentiate the low, middle and high middle class areas from the rich and expensive areas with that map? You are the one who lives in Nairobi and can do better in that regard.

Ok don't worry about the images, just help to classify the names of the areas according to their wealth classes. Will ya?

I have been following the things@Nkwuocha has been writing and many of them are poo. Hw can u say that 80% of Nigerians leave beneath the poverty line? the UNDP statistics which is the most believed in Nigeria states that about 36% of Nigerians leave in poverty so where did u get ur statistics from? From ur own statistical centre or ur anus?
No living Nigerian is happy with Nigeria's state right now because we could have achieved more but do not act like Nigeria's problems are so worse off than that of Other African countries as that is just stupid sentimentality.
U were saying that If Nigeria was smaller that we would know the how Kenya is more developed than us. I want to ask you which Nigeria? If Nigeria was made up of only the south west our poverty rate would have been about 23%, if Nigeria was only made up of the south east our poverty rate would have been only about 30 something percent, if Naija was only made up of south-south the poverty level would have been even lower. Heck even the north central has a lower poverty rate than South Africa or Kenya.
For your information, people don't only migrate because their countries are "shitholes". They also migrate if they feel that they can get less competition in other lands. We have seen this with the Chinese and also with the lebanese who leave their better off countries to migrate to places were the kind of skills they have are in short supply so don't act like Nigerians leaving the country are leaving because of suffer head. Nigerians just like the Chinese and lebanese are very ambitious and materialistic people who want to get the best possible out of life and the quality of life is in short supply in Nigeria. Most other countries in Africa are filled with complacent and self satisfied people(pardon my verbosity) so even if they don't get a very high quality of life they are okay. If Nigerians who emigrate are doing it out of poverty please tell me why is that northerners don't migrate out of the country? please get ur facts before running to post.
As for education, Nigerian public educational system is very corrupt with its admission process;that we all know. But please before sending ur sister out of the country did u try private schools? If u did not then sorry for your ignorance but if u did and she did not get admitted then ur sister is dull and the first class she is making is a fraudulent one.

A new city gradually emerges off the West African coast of the Atlantic

Nowenuse:


And how am i supposed to differentiate the low, middle and high middle class areas from the rich and expensive areas with that map? You are the one who lives in Nairobi and can do better in that regard.

Ok don't worry about the images, just help to classify the names of the areas according to their wealth classes. Will ya?

I see

~ Low density equals to houses with bigger compounds. Larger houses. Rich areas.
~ medium density areas. Smaller compounds, smaller houses, middle class area
~ High density - more houses per square kilometer. Less free space and sdmalle houses. Cheaper too.

If you've live long enough in Nairobi, you mast have heard of residential areas where neighbours sued a land owner for proposing to build a flat, church, etc in certain housing estates.

fanficgirl:

I don't count North African Countries but Europeans like thw French had a slight hand in helping with development and yes they have better Living standards.

U are very correct. I wonder why some ignorant people usually classify, compare and contrast north africans together with sub saharan Africans.
They had a clear and better colonial advantage than us.

The colonial masters treated them somewhat better than us because they are white skinned almost like them, and they wanted to integrate them to Europe like the french did to Algeria.
So the colonial masters spent more efforts and rescources in trying to develop North Africa to European standards and acculturating their people by intermarriage and ensuring increased literacy among the local masses.

Colonial masters never did any of these in most of SubSaharan Africa, they never had the intention to settle (except for Zimbabwe, SA and Namibia), all they cared about was looting our rescources to develop Europe.

Even this useless claim that the Universities in other countries are better than the ones in Nigeria is quite not convincing. when people go to other African countries they go to the private schools there and when they come back they will use the schools to compare with ABU or UNN which are government schools. Why don't you compare them with covenant, Baze and the rest?

Nowenuse:


But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?

dude, what's all this obsession with Ghana?
can't you make a statement without referring to Ghana?