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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:05pm On May 05, 2017
Muafrika2:

I see

~ Low density equals to houses with bigger compounds. Larger houses. Rich areas.
~ medium density areas. Smaller compounds, smaller houses, middle class area
~ High density - more houses per square kilometer. Less free space and sdmalle houses. Cheaper too.

If you've live long enough in Nairobi, you mast have heard of residential areas where neighbours sued a land owner for proposing to build a flat, church, etc in certain housing estates.

Haba, i have never been to Nairobi. Did i ever tell you that i have been there?

Seriously, why are you replying me so evasively? You are appearing suspicious. Aren't you familiar with your own city Nairobi? What is so hard in typing out names of places in Nairobi that you know since you cannot help with images?
You guys have been posting hundreds of images of the beauty of Nairobi and Mombasa's expensive areas! Why the evasion now?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:09pm On May 05, 2017
Tuksgrad:





Hahahaha stop being so emotional. No one said Nigerians don't do good things but the fact remains jails around the world have many Nigerians in them hence people see you that way. Why are you known as drug dealers? Scammers? Human traffickers? Because never a day passes without a Nigerian being on the news in one country or the other for crime, and unfortunately that in the minds of non Nigerians cancels the few good news about you. You can't blame anyone for being isolated and heavily searched in all airports your country men and your president told us all you are not worthy of trust . When there are daily killings in kaduna for example with your government dragging it's feet to intervene , do you think you can have a mouth to talk outside your shores?. Yes you commit crimes in the countries you mentioned cry all want but I never said they don't have local criminals, far from it. South Africa last year published that they had 4000 Nigerians in their jails and Nigeria had 0 of their people in your jails , that is embarrassing and you wonder why they see you the way they do. No Country should have that many foreigners in jail.
universal truth,it hurts but it must be told

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 5:10pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?
you mean Accra? life is expensive only in Accra, aside that things are cheap in other regions. you can ask your fellow Nigerians who live other regions. they will tell you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:10pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


Haba, i have never been to Nairobi. Did i ever tell you that i have been there?

Seriously, why are you replying me so evasively? You are appearing suspicious. Aren't you familiar with your own city Nairobi? What is so hard in typing out names of places in Nairobi that you know since you cannot help with images?
You guys have been posting hundreds of images of the beauty of Nairobi and Mombasa's expensive areas! Why the evasion now?
Someone with more patience help this one undecided angry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:13pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


Expensiveness of Accra will only increase tax revenue for your govt and truly, yes, it will help in development of infrastructures, but it will be a serious setback to the development of a viable middle class population, as most poor people will find it more difficult to climb the middle class ladder due to expensiveness of basic commodities.
Unless your govt can use this tax money to create numerous well paying jobs for the masses in order to enable them meet up with the high cost of living, many poor people will never be able to climb the middle class lader to wealth.
why are you using your. i am not a ghanian. i have live both in accra nairobi lagos. and now in erding.am a nigeria by citizen.

it is not only the duty of goverment to provide 100percent jobs to the jobless. it is collective effort of everyone. goverment will only provide enabling envitoment for businesss to strive and investor to invest. if ghana goverment is doing this better than nigeria then it needs to be applauded. ghana expensive is working in the right direction. ghana is not a rich country like nigeria yet she is ahead of nigeria when it comes to human development. it is worth celebrating. ghana is not 100percent better. atleast is doing it better than us. if you a student nurse in ghana .you get paid. if you are in teaching tranning colledge like nce in nigeria you also get paid.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 5:15pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


LoL.
Many Japanese, Koreans, Chinese and even Europeans go to the USA to school, does that mean that their educational systems are so faulty?

Many African countries no longer want us yet they cannot do without our Music, movies and worshipping our entertainers, they cannot stop coming to our churches, they cannot stop wearing our cultural attires and copying our styles.
Who is now fooling who?

Check top 200 or 100 universities in Africa, more Nigerian universities made the rank than all other countries except South Africa and Egypt.
This is because Nigeria spends so much to try and develop the dozens of her universities while other African countries like Ghana and Kenya will spend all their money in developing only 1 or 2 universities and abandon the rest.

Can you compare how much Nigerian university students pay for tuition compared to other African countries? We have some of the cheapest universities in the world which even the poorest Nigerians can afford. Do you think it is like that in other countries?

So what is your point exactly?

Every country has it's advantages and disadvantage!
we don't spend all our money to develop just one university. we have a lot of universities over here. we expand the structures when the population increases. no one asked you Nigerians to over born.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:16pm On May 05, 2017
leathalbeast:
you mean Accra? life is expensive only in Accra, aside that things are cheap in other regions. you can ask your fellow Nigerians who live other regions. they will tell you.

Accra is the financial centre and heart of Ghana just like Lagos is to Nigeria, so, it matters the most.
As a developing country, that is the place you are supposed to find the largest thriving low and average middle class population.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:18pm On May 05, 2017
Muafrika2:

Someone with more patience help this one undecided angry

It is better you just keep silent in shame as most Kenyans have chosen to, since they can no longer debate with hard facts.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 5:21pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


Accra is the financial centre and heart of Ghana just like Lagos is to Nigeria, so, it matters the most.
As a developing country, that is the place you are supposed to find the largest thriving low and average middle class population.
it's so because the government charges higher taxes and levies than its done in Nigeria but guess what? those taxes are used to provide the needed infrastructure like water, electricity, good education etc. isnt this what's most important?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:26pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


It is better you just keep silent in shame as most Kenyans have chosen to, since they can no longer debate with hard facts.

The wise know when to fight and when to sit back and watch the opponents enemies kick and throw fists into the empty air undecided

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:28pm On May 05, 2017
vaxx:
why are you using your. i am not a ghanian. i have live both in accra nairobi lagos. and now in erding.am a nigeria by citizen.

it is not only the duty of goverment to provide 100percent jobs to the jobless. it is collective effort of everyone. goverment will only provide enabling envitoment for businesss to strive and investor to invest. if ghana goverment is doing this better than nigeria then it needs to be applauded. ghana expensive is working in the right direction. ghana is not a rich country like nigeria yet she is ahead of nigeria when it comes to human development. it is worth celebrating. ghana is not 100percent better. atleast is doing it better than us. if you a student nurse in ghana .you get paid. if you are in teaching tranning colledge like nce in nigeria you also get paid.

Ok i tot u were Ghanaian.

Yes, Ghana is trying in terms of human development, but this also comes at a huge price due to their higher taxation system and high cost of living.
Accra seems to be just like Abuja municipality where if you are not rich or an active civil servant or worker with a good salary, you cannot cope.

This kind of settings do not encourage the thriving self employed population who want to raise their income levels from little or nothing. This is the reason why Abuja has developed so many and largely populated satelite towns even extending into Niger and Nasarawa states.

Ghanaian schools may be paying students, but what is their tuition fees? Nigerian schools are among the cheapest in the world. Don't forget that some Nigerian states and other comissions also pay their students annual bursaries from the first year.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 5:29pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


U are very correct. I wonder why some ignorant people usually classify, compare and contrast north africans together with sub saharan Africans.
They had a clear and better colonial advantage than us.

The colonial masters treated them somewhat better than us because they are white skinned almost like them, and they wanted to integrate them to Europe like the french did to Algeria.
So the colonial masters spent more efforts and rescources in trying to develop North Africa to European standards and acculturating their people by intermarriage and ensuring increased literacy among the local masses.

Colonial masters never did any of these in most of SubSaharan Africa, they never had the intention to settle (except for Zimbabwe, SA and Namibia), all they cared about was looting our rescources to develop Europe.
Yes, exactly how I feel though I would argue that they still weren't treated kindly. In Algeria there were sepeate areas for the native Algerians and the French. The Colonial Masters actually lived in North Africa and so had incentive to try and develop it, similar story for Namibia, South Africa, Botswana, and Zimbabwe. That is why these countries tend to have better infrastructure.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 5:31pm On May 05, 2017
leathalbeast:
we don't spend all our money to develop just one university. we have a lot of universities over here. we expand the structures when the population increases. no one asked you Nigerians to over born.
No one asked Southern Nigerians to be placed with core Northerners.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:34pm On May 05, 2017
i wonder why some nnigerians always use big university to justify development. bo serious country will be looking for land like that of UI OR OAU to build a university. it is too big and not much useful in this 21century. a storey building is enough to cater for 100.000 population of student in this IT WORLD. not using the land that suppose to be used gor agricultural purpose for school. CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY IS ONE OF THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD. yet is not up to the size of my secondry school.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:35pm On May 05, 2017
fanficgirl:

I didn't say his logic made sense. I was just repeating what he said. Don't shoot the messenger.
relax!!! I wasn't attacking you lol cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:35pm On May 05, 2017
leathalbeast:
it's so because the government charges higher taxes and levies than its done in Nigeria but guess what? those taxes are used to provide the needed infrastructure like water, electricity, good education etc. isnt this what's most important?

Yes, i commend this initiative, it's very good.
But like i said, it also comes with it's drawbacks.
This system does not encourage the thriving self employed population who wish to raise their income levels from little or nothing. And we cannot under-estimate the power of the self employed population to an economy.
This is one reason why Lagos is very rich.
Almost every Nigerian who goes to Lagos even from the poorest backgrounds find more opportunities there and are encouraged to build themselves due to the lower cost of living. This is not possible in Abuja municipality.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 5:35pm On May 05, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 5:37pm On May 05, 2017
fanficgirl:

No one asked Southern Nigerians to be placed with core Northerners.
lol lol lol, I have Nigerian friends so I know the southern Nigerians also produce a lot of children though not as many as the northerners do but fact is the leaders of Nigeria aren't willing to provide the infrastructures for their citizens.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:38pm On May 05, 2017
Muafrika2:


The wise know when to fight and when to sit back and watch the opponents enemies kick and throw fists into the empty air undecided

More to me like the man who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.
So, you are very free to run away, recuperate and refortify yourself and come back another day. Ciao.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 5:41pm On May 05, 2017
leathalbeast:
lol lol lol, I have Nigerian friends so I know the southern Nigerians also produce a lot of children though not as many as the northerners do but fact is the leaders of Nigeria aren't willing to provide the infrastructures for their citizens.
True, though I would say birthrate in Southern Nigeria seems to be decreasing while increasing in Core North. Nigeria's population is too big and those bragging about it are idiots. Strict action needs to be taken now.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 5:42pm On May 05, 2017
Jayceon:
relax!!! I wasn't attacking you lol cool
Oh okay! Cause the other guy said I was lying when I was just repeating what he said.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 5:42pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


Yes, i commend this initiative, it's very good.
But like i said, it also comes with it's drawbacks.
This system does not encourage the thriving self employed population who wish to raise their income levels from little or nothing. And we cannot under-estimate the power of the self employed population to an economy.
This is one reason why Lagos is very rich.
Almost every Nigerian who goes to Lagos even from the poorest backgrounds find more opportunities there and are encouraged to build themselves due to the lower cost of living. This is not possible in Abuja municipality.
Accra is more like Abuja in terms of the cost of living but like Lagos it provides opportunities. if you are determined you will make it. besides slow profits made legally is better than quick riches made illegally.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:47pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ok i tot u were Ghanaian.

Yes, Ghana is trying in terms of human development, but this also comes at a huge price due to their higher taxation system and high cost of living.
Accra seems to be just like Abuja municipality where if you are not rich or an active civil servant or worker with a good salary, you cannot cope.

This kind of settings do not encourage the thriving self employed population who want to raise their income levels from little or nothing. This is the reason why Abuja has developed so many and largely populated satelite towns even extending into Niger and Nasarawa states.

Ghanaian schools may be paying students, but what is their tuition fees? Nigerian schools are among the cheapest in the world. Don't forget that some Nigerian states and other comissions also pay their students annual bursaries from the first year.
accra is not like abuja. not at all. it will be ok if you compare accra to lagos and not abuja. accra has both settlement for rich,poor and average. depending on the type of what you do for a living ,you can fit in.

ghanian puplic universities is as cheap like nigeria uni too. a student of legon pay 700cedis per section approximately 65k in nigeria cheaper than lasu ,unilag and many more. may be lesser than oau,unilorin and uniben.


the payment of the allowance is not limited to one particular region but to all the general region at large.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 6:04pm On May 05, 2017
fanficgirl:

True, though I would say birthrate in Southern Nigeria seems to be decreasing while increasing in Core North. Nigeria's population is too big and those bragging about it are idiots. Strict action needs to be taken now.
the south is too divided to stand against the north. Yoruba v igbo war is too much. moreover the northerners are being brainwashed against western education by their elites who hypocritically send their kids to USA and UK for Education.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:23pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


This is very true.

I have observed that most Nigerians who travel to Ghana and other African nations to hussle are usually from Delta, Edo and South-east.
Lagosians and others hardly travel to other African countries to hussle, except maybe for schooling.

Your excuses are so lame its either this or those who do that are from the north....My friend to the world (outside Nigeria) all Nigerians are one...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:33pm On May 05, 2017
Nowenuse:


They may be in our country but we don't really give a fucck about them. God forbid for them to come and be dominating business sectors in our country.

How does that improve your life??

America became America when the whole world went there,
Same to Australia, Dubai,Qatar,S.A... China became grate only when they started trading with the world...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:45pm On May 05, 2017
Tuksgrad:




Whether you care or not the fact that your people are forever complaining about the harassment they get at airports says a lot. I like the fact that you don't care i feel sorry for those who always take to social media to complain about the treatment they recieve because of the stigma of crime. I do wish all the best to your government in succeeding to provide you guys the basic things you need..perhaps then we will hear less bad and more good.
Nigerians are also known for much good just like the bad, it all depends on your view. By the way where are you from? Turkey or south Africa?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 6:52pm On May 05, 2017
nkwuocha1:


You don't need to tell me these. My distant uncle died in SA. He was shot in the mouth by a fellow Nigerian in SA. sincerely many here defending Nigeria are just too emotional and blindly patriotic to a mediocre country. Nigeria is striving a bit today ain't because of genuine businesses. Nigeria's wealth majorly comes from human sacrifice/deprivation and illegality.

There is a big difference between crime and development. Don't mix them up.

Modify
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 6:56pm On May 05, 2017
forgiveness:


There is a thin line between crime and development. Don't mix them up.
His Uncle was likely all those people who left their moderate shops in the market to go and gather drug money in SA and he then got killed. Na who u go blame?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 6:57pm On May 05, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:

His Uncle was likely all those people who left their moderate shops in the market to go and gather drug money in SA and he then got killed. Na who u go blame?

I understand him, he is emotional.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 7:01pm On May 05, 2017
forgiveness:


I understand him, he is emotional.

He is one of those IPOBIANS who want to achieve Biafra by insults up and down. All emotions and no logic.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:07pm On May 05, 2017
nkwuocha1:


Lol. 80% small sef grin.
Na by phone? Na by facebook? Na WA ooo. Abi you no no say people wey no get bank account for Nigeria plenty pass people wey get? Bros if Kenya get quarter if Wetin we get, we for no dey smell their Yansh. Nigeria no try be say e no try. I know say you dey defend your country, carry on. Nothing do you.

God gave every human beings resources. Kenya's wildlife is a big advantage to Kenya's economy.

Is there difference between the Lagos before and after 1999?

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