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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 8:38pm On May 06, 2017
Just30:
I would say Twi, Fante,Ewe,Hausa,GA,Bono . Among all of them, most people consider Hausa to be the most aggressive. In every arguments, once you start speaking Hausa Everyone knows what's next

LoL ok.

Do most Ghanaians speak pidgin? Cos i see Ghanaians speaking it well in movies and musics.
Is it a lingua franca in GH?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 9:46pm On May 06, 2017
Nowenuse:


Yes u are right.
However i never disputed the ethnic similarities btw Ghanaians and Ivorians m, i only disputed the looks. But it seems like you have a strong point because i have also read it somewhere that almost half of present day Ivorians actually migrated from neighbouring countries and are now claiming Ivorian identity. Probably the reason why they now look quite different.

But it seems like the original Ivorians are very united and at peace with the settlers. Or do they discriminate themselves? Do you know anything about their relationship?

Pls, who are the frafra? I've never heard that name, is it a nick name for an ethnic group?
the ivorians are loving and welcoming people. they love stranger a lot. for instance yoruba are now occupying official position. igbo are selling landed property. it is another home for hausa.despite this hospitality there is still some stubborn people among them who hate strangers. the fula for example.

frafra is a tribe that can be found in upper east region in ghana and few in burkina faso.hope this answer your question.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 3:41am On May 07, 2017
Random but my favorite Kenyan song right now grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPb88GD1Tc

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 3:48am On May 07, 2017
fanficgirl:
Random but my favorite Kenyan song right now grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPb88GD1Tc
Never listened to that song
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 4:05am On May 07, 2017
PissedYagami:

Never listened to that song
I heard this was popular.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:14am On May 07, 2017
fanficgirl:
Random but my favorite Kenyan song right now grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPb88GD1Tc

Been an anthem here
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:17am On May 07, 2017
kikuyu2:
This is Ann Kihagi herself. Sheeeittt!! I've just posted but its not showing-let me try again. Anyway,TayserMahiri,as you know I never lie. This is a typical Kikuyu woman. Money hungry,shady legal issues and ATTITUDE.


[url]Bad Landlord Anne Kihagi Fined $2.4 Million By SF Court

Kikuyu with money. Too bad there is no impunity in Cali

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:21am On May 07, 2017
PissedYagami:

Never listened to that song


Got to be kiddin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iamord(m): 5:09am On May 07, 2017
So a thread comparing kenya to nigeria has ended with ghana in it.. and it has gotten to page 580 shocked
Well shout out to you guys that keep defending Ghana on this forum back to back!.. i joined nairaland way back 2009 with intentions of being close to a community online i could identify my interest with (or so i thought), but what i saw was so lowly i had to disassociate myself, and up till today i still see the same ol thing.. that's 9 years!! even with the same old crop of users making the same statements over the years after being corrected time and time again.. Damn! there are surely better things to do with my time!! not in this 2017!!! ..you see at the end of the day, what ever anyone says or thinks about ghana or vice versa on this forum does not affect the countries ranks and statistics other than the figment of the mind of the individual or group. and the aspirations of their talk and belief cannot fly higher than the grimme reality on ground. You try to correct them about their misconceptions about ghana and other countries and they will still find something to bring you back to prove their point, that's because they are governed by their thoughts, influenced by an environment rich in Ethnocentrism and this has created their reality. Am not saying that we can not contrast and compare nations but this chauvinistic attitude is long becoming boring and unrealistic.
Ghana does not need the approval of no layman to know that it's moving forward. a lot is happening in the region.. a whole lot! and it gets me excited .smart developing nations know that the world is speaking globalisation and trade and are pursuing the cause aggressively and not archaic chest beating of being a giant! Na Who giant help ask goliath!! It has not even helped the lives of those who identify themselves as such. The mere fact that we have comparisons of the so called giant of africa with "SMALL" nations shows that there is something wrong , your giant is only as a potential because that ground is still very open to nations that are ready. and the so called small nations seem to be out performing you . it's not just about size.. its about strategic economic positioning. This is something being discussed by top economists . every african nation has potential. it's all about utilizing its scarce resource, capital and intellectual power for dominance in a region. instead of comparing your nations as to who is better why don't you guys channel your energy towards making your nations developed as both countries are yet to reflect true development their potential poses or better still, better your pockets. let's start from there.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:26am On May 07, 2017
Just30:
I would say Twi, Fante,Ewe,Hausa,GA,Bono . Among all of them, most people consider Hausa to be the most aggressive. In every arguments, once you start speaking Hausa Everyone knows what's next
Funny you should mention the connections, connotations and insinuations regarding the speaking of a particular language and aggression or similar violent association. The speaking and use of kiswahili in Uganda has a similar profile, owing to the widespread use of that language in the military and a bad history of its use during the Idi Amin days by his unruly soldiers.Many ugandans even consider it the language of the illiterate.If you dont look likea soldier in uganda and you speak kiswahili it immediately marks you out as a kenyan or tanzanian. You can imagine how a ugandan processes educated kenyans or tanzanians conversing in kiswahili. Cross over into Kenya and Tanzania, its the common everyday speech and is taught upto a very high level . Some languages do indeed have a negative association in some parts of world. The use of English in Cameroon, for instance, marks out your region of origin, access to employment(or rather lack of it) and a very real chance you could be the victim of random violence from both the state and prejudiced individuals .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 8:02am On May 07, 2017
hausa is an imported language into ghanian society. it is not recognized officially in schools. however the language is growing day by day due to the extended family of the muslim. it may even suprise you to know that majority of those who speak hausa are not real indigineous hausa. they are kotokoli a tribe from togo ,zambaruma a tribe in nigeria and mostly in niger republic, zugu a tribe in northern benin republic .even yoruba muslim in ghana speak hausa as their second language. this hausa language may be consider broken and fun to nigeria native hausa speaker.

most of the hausa youth in ghana are very aggresive. they are more like ajegunle boys in nigeria. the use of the language is associated with thugs , robbery and bold mind.

nonethless some hausa speaker are educated. this are the people who speak hausa and miss it with english.


the most common language in ghana is twi . spoken as the first language of more than 75. percent people. accra native language is inkrai. but it is not as powerful like twi in accra ,just the way hausa dominate abuja instead of gbari language
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 8:14am On May 07, 2017
Nowenuse:


LoL ok.

Do most Ghanaians speak pidgin? Cos i see Ghanaians speaking it well in movies and musics.
Is it a lingua franca in GH?
ghanian pidgin is still under development. they are borrowing nigeria slangs , words and some part of their native language. the illitrate speak poor pidgin. you will only like it when an educated youth speak pidgin than the illiterate.most of the ghanian old educated men does not even understand it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:33am On May 07, 2017
Am sorry but had to post this..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 8:49am On May 07, 2017
mtis:
Am sorry but had to post this..
My man, this talk of poverty in Nigeria is very relative. Nigeria is definitely a poor country especially in the North East ( which in part is due to their life style) and also many parts in the south. But you should know that 1.9 dollars in 2013 was almost 400 naira which could feed most people in the North per day because things are relatively cheap there, so it's no wonder many of them would be content living like that.
However l agree with you that Nigeria has many poor people but there is also a very active middle class. So everything must be viewed in perspective.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:00am On May 07, 2017
freshest4live:

My man, this talk of poverty in Nigeria is very relative. Nigeria is definitely a poor country especially in the North East ( which in part is due to their life style) and also many parts in the south. But you should know that 1.9 dollars in 2013 was almost 400 naira which could feed most people in the North per day because things are relatively cheap there, so it's no wonder many of them would be content living like that.
However l agree with you that Nigeria has many poor people but there is also a very active middle class. So everything must be viewed in perspective.
Am agreeing with you on that but Nigeria seems to be increasing not decreasing its poor population
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 9:05am On May 07, 2017
mtis:

Am agreeing with you on that but Nigeria seems to be increasing not decreasing its poor population
Yeah that's true, population is also increasing, add to that corruption, the recent recession, and the boko haram factor in the North east.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:14am On May 07, 2017
freshest4live:

Yeah that's true, population is also increasing, add to that corruption, the recent recession, and the boko haram factor in the North east.
may i ask you humbly if you guys split would it help matters
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 10:00am On May 07, 2017
Olu317:
If you read more on intricacies of western Powers. You will understand, that there were mutual respect accorded to one another because they all have tested their own might against another. So, you wouldnt had expected Britain to supply weapon to Ethiopia. Considering, the fact that Ras Tefari gambled to form alliance with Germany. You see,in war, each sovereign state has its autonomy. If you condemn Britain because she didn't support Ethiopia. Didn't you see what played out in Ukraine war recently when Russia aided few locals to invade part of East of Ukraine? This is even in modern world where technologically advancements is 100% better than the late 18th century and during the occupation of Addis Ababa by Italian Army in the 1930s. It was just impossible to drag Britain into uncertainty. This is what it means when the word,‘ RULE OF PERMANENT INTEREST AND NOT PERMANENT ENEMY '. As at last year, 2016 , there were negative verbal utterances between Russian government and Turkey's. But as at today, they are both on the verge of transacting a deal on ANTI MISSILES SHIELD. You can imagine, what it means, when dealing with world politics and European powers.


politics is just about 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. You can't be loyal having politics around. It is the worst field to express humanity in. Even you have to know both our country's govt have done millions of disgusting stuffs when playing politics. Majority of the smile they show on TV have a bad thought inside

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:00am On May 07, 2017
vaxx:
the ivorians are loving and welcoming people. they love stranger a lot. for instance yoruba are now occupying official position. igbo are selling landed property. it is another home for hausa.despite this hospitality there is still some stubborn people among them who hate strangers. the fula for example.

frafra is a tribe that can be found in upper east region in ghana and few in burkina faso.hope this answer your question.

Hmm, ok i see.
it really seems like these settlers in Ivory coast especially those from Mali and Burkina faso are the ones dragging Ivory coast backwards, cos it seems like most of the original Ivorians are very educated and progressive people, but you wonder why Ivory coast is not doing so well in human and other indexes.
Do u also share this thought?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:05am On May 07, 2017
fanficgirl:
Random but my favorite Kenyan song right now grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPb88GD1Tc

I know Nyashinki, but i don't really like his songs and i don't know why.
This is my own favourite Kenyan music below.
Kenya has some very good club singers. They just don't have the large market for their musics.
This song is now numb 3 on the Kenyan countdown.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juVMq6aKfjY

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:22am On May 07, 2017
Nowenuse:


U are very correct. I wonder why some ignorant people usually classify, compare and contrast north africans together with sub saharan Africans.

They had a clear and better colonial advantage than us.

The colonial masters treated them somewhat better than us because they are white skinned almost like them, and they wanted to integrate them to Europe like the french did to Algeria.
So the colonial masters spent more efforts and rescources in trying to develop North Africa to European standards and acculturating their people by intermarriage and ensuring increased literacy among the local masses.

Colonial masters never did any of these in most of SubSaharan Africa, they never had the intention to settle (except for Zimbabwe, SA and Namibia), all they cared about was looting our rescources to develop Europe.

clear advantage are you serious ? do you know that half of all algerian population was killed in only the first 42 years of invasion (1830-1872) , and millions after , it was a genocide . an Ethnic cleansing , they decimated all the villages and town on their paths (men, women, olds , children the soldiers received a piece of silver for each head and ear cut , back to the commander ) burned the crops ect... algerians were not consider as humans and had not the french nationality and no rights . Algeria was not a colony but a French department of France thats why they try to clean it from indigenes.

the few infrastucture built by french were for french and europeens colons! for exemple schools ! illiteracy of algerians population was 85 % in 1962 ( independancy) now days its only 11%
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:23am On May 07, 2017
vaxx:
hausa is an imported language into ghanian society. it is not recognized officially in schools. however the language is growing day by day due to the extended family of the muslim. it may even suprise you to know that majority of those who speak hausa are not real indigineous hausa. they are kotokoli a tribe from togo ,zambaruma a tribe in nigeria and mostly in niger republic, zugu a tribe in northern benin republic .even yoruba muslim in ghana speak hausa as their second language. this hausa language may be consider broken and fun to nigeria native hausa speaker.

most of the hausa youth in ghana are very aggresive. they are more like ajegunle boys in nigeria. the use of the language is associated with thugs , robbery and bold mind.

nonethless some hausa speaker are educated. this are the people who speak hausa and miss it with english.


the most common language in ghana is twi . spoken as the first language of more than 75. percent people. accra native language is inkrai. but it is not as powerful like twi in accra ,just the way hausa dominate abuja instead of gbari language

Yes i think i am aware of this.

Hausa in Ghana is more like a language for muslims. Like the lingua franca of all muslim tribes. This is almost the same case in northern and central Cameroon.

Believe me as a hausa speaker, i have met many Hausa speaking Ghanaians and it is very clear that most of them speak it as a 2nd language from their intonation.
I really wonder how Hausa came to penetrate Ghana more, without penetrating Togo and Benin republic as such. A Ghanaian once told me that it was because of islam.

I never knew hausa was so entrenched in Ghana until i started coming across Hausa Ghana movies. I also noticed that some adverts in GH were done in hausa..

Seriously, if not for the illiteracy and backwardness of native Hausas, Hausa would have been the most spoken language in Africa by now. Cos it would have spread farther by now.

Just for the records, Gbari is a dialect or subgroup of Gbagyi (the major ethnic group of FCT and Abuja), but Gbaris are mostly found in Niger state. Gbagyi is the general and official ethnic name (corrupted as GWARI by the hausas).
Gbagyis are middlebelters and most middlebelters (except Benue-Kogi people) adopted Hausa as a 2nd language.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:30am On May 07, 2017
chkil0:


clear advantage are you serious ? do you know that half of all algerian population was killed in only the first 42 years of invasion (1830-1872) , and millions after , it was a genocide . an Ethnic cleansing , algerians were not consider as humans and had not the french nationality and no rights . Algeria was not a colony but a French department of France thats why they try to clean it from indigenes.

the few infrastucture built by french were for french and europeens colons! for exemple schools ! illiteracy of algerians population was 85 % in 1962 ( independancy) now days its only 11%

Hmm, really?
I knew of the genocide during the invasion. But once the french started ruling, were the educated and franconized Algerians not allowed in the developed areas?

How come many Algerians became citizens of France decades ago? I thought your people were allowed in and out of France since Algerians now had french citizenship?

I heard that during the Algerian revolution, that many Algerian educated and franconized population also fled to France along with the French?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:32am On May 07, 2017
I swear i love this song soo much...buts its in swahili.The beauty is in the lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyiC2CBtyI

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:36am On May 07, 2017
vaxx:
ghanian pidgin is still under development. they are borrowing nigeria slangs , words and some part of their native language. the illitrate speak poor pidgin. you will only like it when an educated youth speak pidgin than the illiterate.most of the ghanian old educated men does not even understand it.

Ok. I thought as much.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:39am On May 07, 2017
mtis:
I swear i love this song soo much...buts its in swahili.The beauty is in the lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWyiC2CBtyI

Me too!
It's a Tanzanian song. Tanzanians are very wonderful and talented musicians. They seem to be dominating East African music industry for now.
This song was numb 1 in the entire East Africa for many months back!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:44am On May 07, 2017
Nowenuse:


Me too!
It's a Tanzanian song. Tanzanians are very wonderful and talented musicians. They seem to be dominating East African music industry for now.
This song was numb 1 in the entire East Africa for many months back!
Ya its true their Swahili is sooo beautiful

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:46am On May 07, 2017
Nowenuse:


Hmm, really?
I knew of the genocide during the invasion. But once the french started ruling, were the educated and franconized Algerians not allowed in the developed areas?

How come many Algerians became citizens of France decades ago? I thought your people were allowed in and out of France since Algerians now had french citizenship?

I heard that during the Algerian revolution, that many Algerian educated and franconized population also fled to France along with the French?

The first wave of Algerian emigration in France was workers migrants for the french buildings and factories ,in the mines ect .. , Cheap labor without rights , be crammed into shantytowns , and then during the world war there were Algerian recruits used as cannon fodder against the Nazis and migrants workers after to rebuilt french economy !

and yes their was few algerians intelectuals educated in french schools to work in french instutitions . many of them lead the algerian politic revolution of indepndancy ! But compared to the Algerian population 85% was illiterate in indépendancy it was nothing


no days still an algerian emmigration specially Intellectuals, ! for exemple acording to a report by the French Ministry of Health 25% of foreign doctors practicing in France are Algerians
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:49am On May 07, 2017
mtis:

may i ask you humbly if you guys split would it help matters

Nigerian poverty is very relative just as my fellow compatriot explained. It may be true that poverty levels rose due to the economic recession and boko haram insurgency, but it cannot be more than 35%. No it can't. Plus the middle class population of Nigeria is continually on the rise. This is why Nigerian per capital income is still quite high.

Breaking up Nigeria will have more disadvantages, because it will lead to human disaster. There can never be a peaceful break-up of Nigeria. The whole of Africa will be flooded with refugees because nobody knows how many parts the country will divide into. Nigerians, just like most Africans are not yet educated and civilized enough for a peaceful break-up
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:53am On May 07, 2017
Nowenuse:


Nigerian poverty is very relative just as my fellow compatriot explained. It may be true that poverty levels rose due to the economic recession and boko haram insurgency, but it cannot be more than 35%. No it can't. Plus the middle class population of Nigeria is continually on the rise. This is why Nigerian per capital income is still quite high.

Breaking up Nigeria will have more disadvantages, because it will lead to human disaster. There can never be a peaceful break-up of Nigeria. The whole of Africa will be flooded with refugees because nobody knows how many parts the country will divide into. Nigerians, just like most Africans are not yet educated and civilized enough for a peaceful break-up
Thats true but in most threads in Nairaland many guys from SE want their way out.Is it maybe the rest of the country is holding them back
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:55am On May 07, 2017
chkil0:


The first wave of Algerian emigration in France was workers migrants for the french buildings and factories ,in the mines ect .. , Cheap labor without rights , be crammed into shantytowns , and then during the world war there were Algerian recruits used as cannon fodder against the Nazis and migrants workers after to rebuilt french economy !

and yes their was few algerians intelectuals educated in french schools to work in french instutitions . many of them lead the algerian politic revolution of indepndancy ! But compared to the Algerian population 85% was illiterate in indépendancy !

Hmm, quite bitter history there. Did Tunisians and Moroccans also suffer same fate in the hands of the french? Then i commend your people for making so much progress.

Why do many present day Algerians look so much like Europeans compared to Tunisians and Moroccans (my personal observation though, i may be wrong)? It is said there was strong interracial mixing during the colonial period? Is it true?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:56am On May 07, 2017
mtis:

Thats true but in most threads in Nairaland many guys from SE want their way out.Is it maybe the rest of the country is holding them back

Wait, before we continue, may i know your nationality?

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