DOCTUFOS: Eta-n-tagba 14:1-3
Chapter Fourteen
1. If the scribes have said that the fear of a god is the beginning of knowledge, I have come to say otherwise;
2. Therefore I say, the fear of a god is the beginning of stupidity.
3. For that same god whom you fear to death is the mock song of other people.

Fear and respect should not be equated. You can respect the Greatest Consciousness but you don't need to fear anything. However, the Greatest Consciousness whom human being term as God Almighty doesn't even demand worship or respect from us, rather, USING OUR BRAINS AND MAKING FINDINGS. But the gods (his children like Allah, Yahweh, Mazda etc) want us to fear them and worship them. That is wrong.

DO NOT FEAR!

There are more than 10,000 gods worldwide. If you fear one of them and make fun of the rest, you are still not free from the bondage of fear. Allah, Yahweh, Moloch, Vishnu, Mazda, Wishposht, Odin, Olorun etc are the gods created by GOD ALMIGHTY. Do you fear any of them? If you do so, you are still a slave to fear.

FEAR NOT!!!

OtemAtum again
Damn! I miss the intelligent discussion that goes on between you and Wilgrea7

CuteMadridista:
OtemAtum again

Damn! I miss the intelligent discussion that goes on between you and Wilgrea7

Gone are those days. I really enjoyed the arguments back then.

@High Priest Otem Atum,

It was the fear of gods that made Africans to eat grass like demented grass hoppers and drink petrol like 1972 kabu kabu!!!

@High Priest Otem Atum,

It was the fear of gods that made African christians to eat grass like demented grass hoppers and drink petrol like 1972 kabu kabu!!!

Niflheim:
@High Priest Otem Atum,

It was the fear of gods that made African christians to eat grass like demented grass hoppers and drink petrol like 1972 kabu kabu!!!

You can kill someone with laff o. I always feel your work here on NL. Weldone and keep enlightening the sheeple.

If you like deny, if you like accept. One thing you must know is that every knee must bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!. Do it now of your own free will and be saved or do it at the end of time and still be damned!. The choice is yours. You can never say you didn't hear it or know it. God woun't force you. But you must do it!

Look at Mark 5:1-10

Hahaha... When the Lord Jesus came to shore, the demoniac, named legion, on his own accord ran and fell down and worshipped the Lord and still begged Him not to torment him. Imagine legions of demons worshipping and begging the Lord to spare them without Him (Jesus) saying a word!. Then imagine you, ordinary mortal making noise. You haven't seen anything yet. If you like allow the devil deceive you with all these lies. You will be accountable for what you choose to believe and will face the consequences. Jesus doesn't have to say anything on that day, but you must bow before, confess and worship Him.

Don't be deceived!. Repent, confess and receive Jesus now and be saved.

Primesky:
If you like deny, if you like accept. One thing you must know is that every knee must bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!. Do it now of your own free will and be saved or do it at the end of time and still be damned!. The choice is yours. You can never say you didn't hear it or know it. God woun't force you. But you must do it!

Look at Mark 5:1-10

Hahaha... When the Lord Jesus came to shore, the demoniac, named legion, on his own accord ran and fell down and worshipped the Lord and still begged Him not to torment him. Imagine legions of demons worshipping and begging the Lord to spare them without Him (Jesus) saying a word!. Then imagine you, ordinary mortal making noise. You haven't seen anything yet. If you like allow the devil deceive you with all these lies. You will be accountable for what you choose to believe and will face the consequences. Jesus doesn't have to say anything on that day, but you must bow before, confess and worship Him.

Don't be deceived!. Repent, confess and receive Jesus now and be saved.

The fear of your god's hell is really driving you into something i dont really wanna say. But i know that with time, the light of God Almighty will deliver you from fear.

CuteMadridista:
OtemAtum again

Damn! I miss the intelligent discussion that goes on between you and Wilgrea7

We still argue, but it's not like before. He now goes under the disguise of Johnw47 and criticizes me of using alternate moniker when he is also guilty of such

0temSapien:
We still argue, but it's not like before. He now goes under the disguise of Johnw47 and criticizes me of using alternate moniker when he is also guilty of such

otem sapien alias otem atum, forever the liar

your paranoia-fear is from your god satan

Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; ....

more here: https://www.nairaland.com/4403181/laughter-yahweh-deceiver/6#67117656

johnw47:


otem sapien alias otem atum, forever the liar

your paranoia-fear is from your god satan

Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; ....

more here: https://www.nairaland.com/4403181/laughter-yahweh-deceiver/6#67117656

Wilgrea7, good morning sir.

0temSapien:
Wilgrea7, good morning sir.

otem look here oh paranoid one:
https://www.nairaland.com/4403181/laughter-yahweh-deceiver/6#67119785

Everything you lust after is a god. To fear such is really silly. In such situation, fear means, you are afraid in the economic and social sense. But in Religious Palance, Fear means revered, be humble and hopeful towards, be faithful to and love The Supreme Spirit(God not god).

orisa37:
Everything you lust after is a god. To fear such is really silly. In such situation, fear means, you are afraid in the economic and social sense. But in Religious Palance, Fear means revered, be humble and hopeful towards, be faithful to and love The Supreme Spirit(God not god).

But the fear of a god will always remain the beginning of stupidity. No long or short.

0temSapien:
But the fear of a god will always remain the beginning of stupidity. No long or short.

believing in one who doesn't know if he created the universe, or if the universe created him,
is not even the beginning of stupidity, but is being thoroughly entrenched in stupidity:

otemanuduno:
ADSPIRAMEN

Chapter 1
DOMINO REVERAD

1. I am God. I am not sure if I was created by the universe or if I created the universe.

Primesky:
If you like deny, if you like accept. One thing you must know is that every knee must bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!. Do it now of your own free will and be saved or do it at the end of time and still be damned!. The choice is yours. You can never say you didn't hear it or know it. God woun't force you. But you must do it!

Look at Mark 5:1-10

Hahaha... When the Lord Jesus came to shore, the demoniac, named legion, on his own accord ran and fell down and worshipped the Lord and still begged Him not to torment him. Imagine legions of demons worshipping and begging the Lord to spare them without Him (Jesus) saying a word!. Then imagine you, ordinary mortal making noise. You haven't seen anything yet. If you like allow the devil deceive you with all these lies. You will be accountable for what you choose to believe and will face the consequences. Jesus doesn't have to say anything on that day, but you must bow before, confess and worship Him.

Don't be deceived!. Repent, confess and receive Jesus now and be saved.

Imagine the sheer number of stuuuupid people who have come and gone over the last 2000yrs, who have swallowed all this meaningless nonsense.
What a tragedy.

plaetton:


Imagine the sheer number of stuuuupid people who have come and gone over the last 2000yrs, who have swallowed all this meaningless nonsense.
What a tragedy.

Wise man, you too will die and go right?. Be sure you end up in the right place that's the crux of the matter. Arguments won't save no body. The message is true to itself. You make your choice and earn the consequences as well. Wether it sounds stupid and foolish to you is your own personal business. I have chosen and will face the consequences, you will as well. No need to curse and abuse OK?.

Tragedy is to believe there is no God while on earth, and therefore live carelessly, only to discover after death, that infact He exist and is real and all you were told about Him is real and there is no going back to make corrections. That my dear, is tragedy!. If I get there and there is nothing like such, what would I lose?. I guess common sense is not common after all.

Nevertheless, the truth I can't deny is that Jesus loves you so much that He died for you, and if you sincerely repent of your sins and accept Him now that you are alive, He will graciously pardon and accept you. That's eternal life.

Jesus Christ saves!.

Primesky:


Wise man, you too will die and go right?. Be sure you end up in the right place that's the crux of the matter. Arguments won't save no body. The message is true to itself. You make your choice and earn the consequences as well. Wether it sounds stupid and foolish to you is your own personal business. I have chosen and will face the consequences, you will as well. No need to curse and abuse OK?.

Tragedy is to believe there is no God while on earth, and therefore live carelessly, only to discover after death, that infact He exist and is real and all you were told about Him is real and there is no going back to make corrections. That my dear, is tragedy!. If I get there and there is nothing like such, what would I lose?. I guess common sense is not common after all.

Nevertheless, the truth I can't deny is that Jesus loves you so much that He died for you, and if you sincerely repent of your sins and accept Him now that you are alive, He will graciously pardon and accept you. That's eternal life.

Jesus Christ saves!.

Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous. Once you realize that the Bible was written by ordinary Bronze Age men and that it contains mostly myth and fictionalized history, then everything makes sense.

A god who actually loved us would, first of all, not threaten us with Hell. Second, he would let us know who he is and make his existence positively known. Third, if he decided to give us life after death, he would guide every one of us to this happy place. The god of Christianity fails on all of these points.

RuthlessLeader:


Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous. Once you realize that the Bible was written by ordinary Bronze Age men and that it contains mostly myth and fictionalized history, then everything makes sense.

A god who actually loved us would, first of all, not threaten us with Hell. Second, he would let us know who he is and make his existence positively known. Third, if he decided to give us life after death, he would guide every one of us to this happy place. The god of Christianity fails on all of these points.

You are simply living in denial, but that doesn't matter nor will it ever matter as far as the truth is concerned. At least you know God gave His son to die, right? Why?. so your sins could be forgiven. Well, there is no more arguments. You said it. But the choice is yours. I guess the question is, are you sinless?. That is, can you say, I haven't done anything wrong?. I guess your answer is as good as mine if you're honest, because no man is sinless. If the only one who can forgive sins says this is the condition before i'll do it, and has in fact paid the price, the most difficult aspect of it for you, what exactly will be your excuse now?.

As for you saying the bible was written by men of broze age, well, everything written in that book you call bronze myth, has occurred in amazing accuracy just as those bronze age men prophesied. You see what's happening in Jerusalem this week, I'm not talking about last year, or last decade, I mean this week. Do you even know what's happening there?. (Jerusalem becoming the capital of Israel.) Non of our 21st century professors could have imagined that a decade ago. All playing out their was prophesied in accurate detail thousands of years ago, please, tell me the probability of getting it so acurately after so many years?. Maybe you're not doing your research well enough. If you feel too lazy to research the bible, I suggest you study those who have. They are there on YouTube. And then ask how could it be so accurate, how could those old ignorant bronze age men be so accurate?. The eyes that look are many but the eyes that actually see are few. Be very sure of what you're doing. Eternity is not a joke. If you go over there without Jesus, I can't even explain the horror.

Mind you, God does not force people into hell, rather, people choose to go their by their choices.

Just like you will naturally throw away everything you consider as dirty and useless in your house. But assuming, the stuffs that become dirts actually had the choice of being clean stuffs but chose rather to be dirt, what will you do?. For me, I will be very well justified to throw them away. This is what it's like. The Universe is God's house. We're all His creations, now He's telling you, look I can't have you the way you're, you need to be washed and be made clean. Out of love and desire that you be clean and be among His clean stuffs that He can keep, He went all the way to pay the price of that washing for you, requiring that you only make the choice to be clean. He doesn't and will never force you. It's totally your choice.

The blood of Jesus cleanses and saves. Jesus still saves today. The Choice is yours.

Primesky:



You are simply living in denial, but that doesn't matter nor will it ever matter as far as the truth is concerned. At least you know God gave His son to die, right? Why?. so your sins could be forgiven. Well, there is no more arguments. You said it. But the choice is yours. I guess the question is, are you sinless?. That is, can you say, I haven't done anything wrong?. I guess your answer is as good as mine if you're honest, because no man is sinless. If the only one who can forgive sins says this is the condition before i'll do it, and has in fact paid the price, the most difficult aspect of it for you, what exactly will be your excuse now?.

Why do I have to believe in Jesus to be forgiven if I don’t have to believe in Adam and Eve to be condemned?

As for you saying the bible was written by men of bronze age, well, everything written in that book you call bronze myth, has occurred in amazing accuracy just as those bronze age men prophesied. You see what's happening in Jerusalem this week, I'm not talking about last year, or last decade, I mean this week. Do you even know what's happening there?. (Jerusalem becoming the capital of Israel.) Non of our 21st century professors could have imagined that a decade ago. All playing out their was prophesied in accurate detail thousands of years ago, please, tell me the probability of getting it so acurately after so many years?. Maybe you're not doing your research well enough. If you feel too lazy to research the bible, I suggest you study those who have. They are there on YouTube. And then ask how could it be so accurate, how could those old ignorant bronze age men be so accurate?. The eyes that look are many but the eyes that actually see are few. Be very sure of what you're doing. Eternity is not a joke. If you go over there without Jesus, I can't even explain the horror.

A divine being ‘dictating’ to human writers would almost certainly have done a better job of establishing a clear and well understood doctrine that would not have required a quarrelsome debate among human interpreters for the next twenty centuries.

Mind you, God does not force people into hell, rather, people choose to go their by their choices.

I know that now you are desperate, God says do what you wish, but make the wrong choice and you will be tortured for eternity in hell. That’s not free will. It’s like a man telling his girlfriend, do what you wish, but if you choose to leave me, I will track you down and blow your brains out. When a man says this we call him a psychopath. When god says the same we call him “loving” and build churches in his honor.

Just like you will naturally throw away everything you consider as dirty and useless in your house. But assuming, the stuffs that become dirts actually had the choice of being clean stuffs but chose rather to be dirt, what will you do?. For me, I will be very well justified to throw them away. This is what it's like. The Universe is God's house. We're all His creations, now He's telling you, look I can't have you the way you're, you need to be washed and be made clean. Out of love and desire that you be clean and be among His clean stuffs that He can keep, He went all the way to pay the price of that washing for you, requiring that you only make the choice to be clean. He doesn't and will never force you. It's totally your choice.

The bolded there, let me take that analogy further. Assuming these stuffs are your children, you are telling me that you cannot just clean them by force because they don`t want to but you will throw them out of your house simply because you cant stand it. Shame on you and your Barbaric god.

The blood of Jesus cleanses and saves. Jesus still saves today. The Choice is yours.

According to Christianity, not believing in Jesus is a worse sin than murder. Please I implore every sane person to live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

Depressed teen: Nobody accepts me!
Jesus: I know the feeling.
Depressed teen: What do you do when they won’t accept you?
Jesus: I tell them to go to Hell

There is evidence that the typical Christian has a compartment in the brain where religious beliefs are stored and which does not communicate with other areas of the brain associated with patterns, logic, and critical thinking. The failure of this neural passageway results in unrecognized hypocritical ideas. The following is taken from:

http://www.evilbible.com/Top_Ten_List.html

entitled “Top 10 Signs You Are a Fundamentalist Christian:”

10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

2 – You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

It is difficult to step outside of ourselves and see us as others do, but this is a necessary step to achieve a knowledge of objective reality. Otherwise, we are burdened with thoughts and ideas that have been hardwired in our brains by our parents, friends, teachers, and pastors, as well as the limited range of our personal experiences. It is evident that many Christians are in this situation- belief based on the imprint of others as opposed to the free exercise of critical thought.

Primesky:


Wise man, you too will die and go right?. Be sure you end up in the right place that's the crux of the matter. Arguments won't save no body. The message is true to itself. You make your choice and earn the consequences as well. Wether it sounds stupid and foolish to you is your own personal business. I have chosen and will face the consequences, you will as well. No need to curse and abuse OK?.

Tragedy is to believe there is no God while on earth, and therefore live carelessly, only to discover after death, that infact He exist and is real and all you were told about Him is real and there is no going back to make corrections. That my dear, is tragedy!. If I get there and there is nothing like such, what would I lose?. I guess common sense is not common after all.

Nevertheless, the truth I can't deny is that Jesus loves you so much that He died for you, and if you sincerely repent of your sins and accept Him now that you are alive, He will graciously pardon and accept you. That's eternal life.

Jesus Christ saves!.

Big laughter.
So the belief in God is an afterlife insurance policy ?
What a grand delusion.
So you willingly suspend critical thinking, enquiry and natural curiosity in this very one and only life that you KNOW as necessary sacrifice for an afterlife insurance policy , brought to you by Stone age Middle Easterners, sold wholesale by marauding Europeans, and finally sold to you at the retail level by Fraudulent charlatans called pastors ?

Someone has been left holding the bag, and it's not me.

plaetton:

Big laughter.
So the belief in God is an afterlife insurance policy ?
What a grand delusion.
So you willingly suspend critical thinking, enquiry and natural curiosity in this very one and only life that you KNOW as necessary sacrifice for an afterlife insurance policy , brought to you by Stone age Middle Easterners, sold wholesale by marauding Europeans, and finally sold to you at the retail level by Fraudulent charlatans called pastors ?

Someone has been left holding the bag, and it's not me.

Oh OK, I hope more accidental creations from Big Bang will come and join you soon. I wonder why it hasn't happened since.

Your choice is your own.

Jesus is more than an insurance for me. What do you have?. Hopeless existence?. God forbid!

Jesus saves!.

RuthlessLeader:

Why do I have to believe in Jesus to be forgiven if I don’t have to believe in Adam and Eve to be condemned?


A divine being ‘dictating’ to human writers would almost certainly have done a better job of establishing a clear and well understood doctrine that would not have required a quarrelsome debate among human interpreters for the next twenty centuries.


I know that now you are desperate, God says do what you wish, but make the wrong choice and you will be tortured for eternity in hell. That’s not free will. It’s like a man telling his girlfriend, do what you wish, but if you choose to leave me, I will track you down and blow your brains out. When a man says this we call him a psychopath. When god says the same we call him “loving” and build churches in his honor.


The bolded there, let me take that analogy further. Assuming these stuffs are your children, you are telling me that you cannot just clean them by force because they don`t want to but you will throw them out of your house simply because you cant stand it. Shame on you and your Barbaric god.


According to Christianity, not believing in Jesus is a worse sin than murder. Please I implore every sane person to live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

Depressed teen: Nobody accepts me!
Jesus: I know the feeling.
Depressed teen: What do you do when they won’t accept you?
Jesus: I tell them to go to Hell

You miss the point. Why do we have prisons?. Is it because the government is wicked or what?. Why do we have people in that place?. Clearly people made a choice contrary to an existing law, so, what do you call that?.

No amount of arguments and warped reasoning will excuse you. You know deep down that you have some not good stuffs going on, born out of your decisions. They attract consequences if you don't repent, that's all!

The nonsense book you are talking about has proved to be true time after time after time. Even today, its prophecies are still being fulfilled despite spirited efforts to undermine it. What's happening in Jerusalem today, did you know it was prophesied by that book many years ago?, so will you and I face God some day, just as it has said. Fight it, abuse it, deny it. All that won't stop its reality from coming through.

Jesus loves you.

plaetton:

Big laughter.
So the belief in God is an afterlife insurance policy ?
What a grand delusion.
So you willingly suspend critical thinking, enquiry and natural curiosity in this very one and only life that you KNOW as necessary sacrifice for an afterlife insurance policy , brought to you by Stone age Middle Easterners, sold wholesale by marauding Europeans, and finally sold to you at the retail level by Fraudulent charlatans called pastors ?

Someone has been left holding the bag, and it's not me.

Gold!

Hmm

na real hmm! well as for those in support of religion, they should know that their gods have washed their brains off their head that's why they can't think logically.

Eta n ta gba ko, Erin wo ro ko ni.

Adekdammy:
Eta n ta gba ko, Erin wo ro ko ni.

You will still see arun n ru du if you are not careful

0temSapien:
You will still see arun n ru du if you are not careful

Fear Of A 'god' Is The Beginning Of Stupidity

well you know about that part anyway

johnw47:




well you know about that part anyway

Mmm