.

Nowenuse:
Many Southern Nigerians enjoy insulting and mocking Northern Nigerians because they are ignorant and don't understand that the cultures and terrain of the North are not the same with the south.

See the way most southern Nigerians have abandoned farming and have all migrated to the cities to form posh and civilized. If all Northerners behaved that way, i swear, Nigerians would starve.
Northern Nigeria is still the reason why Nigeria is not importing tomatoes, Onions, Potatoes, Beans, Groundnut, Carrots, Cucumbers and many other foodstuffs.
The pressure on northerners is now becoming too much, and many have started leaving farming to the cities too. Nigerian govt must act fast and do something about this, if not, the kind of food scarcity, starvation and food importation that will hit Nigeria will be terrible.

Am i saying the truth or not?
@Maduawuchukwu, 9jakool, freshest4live, forgiveness, uzzyfire, iblawi, shervydman, shaytun, Obi1kenobi

You can blame the politicians for the chaos witnessed btw the North and South.

You can also blame the perpetrators of the first coup, causing black blood btw the two.

You can also blame it on the civil war.

You can blame it on big gab btw the two(intermarriage is almost in none existence due to the rigid culture of the North).

You can blame it on the lack of information about the North (many Northerners are very reluctant to expose or give information about their region).

As long as these things are still on ground, we can't expect improved relationship between the North and South.

freshest4live:

I guess one of the advantages of the North is that they are the food belt of the nation, for the Yoruba it's their love for education, while the igbos are very productive people and we south south nor dey carry last. Every state and tribe if controlled by their Governors properly have advantages for omo Naija. God bless Naija.

God created humans so that they can't live without depending on each other. The earlier we realize this the better.

However, as you rightly said every States or tribe must be allowed to control their resources because it is obvious we will begin to make headway.

Nowenuse:
Many Southern Nigerians enjoy insulting and mocking Northern Nigerians because they are ignorant and don't understand that the cultures and terrain of the North are not the same with the south.

See the way most southern Nigerians have abandoned farming and have all migrated to the cities to form posh and civilized. If all Northerners behaved that way, i swear, Nigerians would starve.
Northern Nigeria is still the reason why Nigeria is not importing tomatoes, Onions, Potatoes, Beans, Groundnut, Carrots, Cucumbers and many other foodstuffs.
The pressure on northerners is now becoming too much, and many have started leaving farming to the cities too. Nigerian govt must act fast and do something about this, if not, the kind of food scarcity, starvation and food importation that will hit Nigeria will be terrible.

Am i saying the truth or not?
@Maduawuchukwu, 9jakool, freshest4live, forgiveness, uzzyfire, iblawi, shervydman, shaytun, Obi1kenobi

I don't blame Northerners necessarily. It's not good to generalize the North as Islamist backwards because there are hundreds of ethnic groups from various religious background. There are Yorubas living in the North, Tiv, Idoma, Igala, Nupe, Gbagyi, Berom,Kamwe,Tyap etc not just Hausa or Fulani. I would love for the minority in the North to have a distinct region of their own. The North central is good, but it's not entirely inclusive of all minorities. Hausa people are not bad nor Fulani, even though there are some who partake in violence. It's not good to paint the people with a broad brush. I think if there is better regionalism, the distrust could lessen.

forgiveness:


You can blame the politicians for the chaos witnessed btw the North and South.

You can also blame the perpetrators of the first coup, causing black blood btw the two.

You can also blame it on the civil war.

You can blame it on big gab btw the two(intermarriage is almost in none existence due to the rigid culture of the North).

You can blame it on the lack of information about the North (many Northerners are very reluctant to expose or give information about their region).

As long as these things are still on ground, we can't expect improved relationship between the North and South.

This is true. When u don't mix up with someone hw can u appreciate that the person is just a human like you with his/her good sides and flaws? Northerners too do not like discussing with other people about their region. It is not a shame that u have more active Kenyans than northerners on a Nigerian blog?
If they mix more many stereotypes will be overlooked just as the mixing between Igbo and Yoruba people has lessened real life enmity and the possibliity of violence between them.

chkil0:


kabyle school classes are optional , but this last years kabyle language is promoted , So many Algerians will little by little relearn their ancestral language.

for secularism algeria , According to the law, islam is the official religion of the state and constitution protects religious freedom , so drinking alcohol in the street or in public is forbidden ! but their is Liquor stores, bars and nightclubs ! to resume you can drink eat during ramadan, party in nightclubs ect ... just don t do it in public to not disturb others , drink at your home or in bars , hotels or isolated place no one will talk to you ! i think its the same for tunisia morrocco !

for subsahara question its not my first account here in nairaland , and i m in subsaharians forums , web site for more then 10 years

Ok.
Why your interest and openess to SubSaharan Africans if i may ask?

Do Maghrebis value and cherish the Arab brotherhood?

Was it really true that the Berbers were a christian people before they were islamized and arabized by the arabs? How do berbers or Algerians relate to the history that they were arabized and islamized by Arabs?

Do Algerians/Maghrebis practice an islamic wedding, traditional/cultural weddings or court weddings?

Nowenuse:


Hmm
I expected as much.

Why did Maghrebi regional unity fail? A united Maghreb would have been a powerful force to reckon with in Africa.
You can imagine that Morocco is now requesting to join us in ECOWAS (although we all know that they have ulterior motives).
So, in what context do maghrebis speak french with each other? Do your leaders and politicians speak it to the masses on any occasions?

I'd also like to know from your own personal point of view, do you think that Maghrebis should generally accept more liberalism or more islamism?

The Moroccan's objective is military protection from terrorist (isil).

Maduawuchukwu:

This is true. When u don't mix up with someone hw can u appreciate that the person is just a human like you with his/her good sides and flaws? Northerners too do not like discussing with other people about their region. It is not a shame that u have more active Kenyans than northerners on a Nigerian blog?
If they mix more many stereotypes will be overlooked just as the mixing between Igbo and Yoruba people has lessened real life enmity and the possibliity of violence between them.

LoL, are you trying to say that there are more Kenyans than Northerners on nairaland? This is a thread abt Kenya.
Northerners are very active on facebook however (almost as equally as Southerners).
Most northerners and Southerners do not meet on friendly and intelligent threads online most times, so they never bother to learn about each other.
How many Southerners are willing to learn about the north in the first place??

Another thing is that take the case of nairaland for instance where Igbos and Yorubas have turned it to a bashing ground. You can hardly find educated northerners and middlebelters involved in such display of immaturity. They will just ignore and stay out of it.

Maduawuchukwu:

This is true. When u don't mix up with someone hw can u appreciate that the person is just a human like you with his/her good sides and flaws? Northerners too do not like discussing with other people about their region. It is not a shame that u have more active Kenyans than northerners on a Nigerian blog?
If they mix more many stereotypes will be overlooked just as the mixing between Igbo and Yoruba people has lessened real life enmity and the possibliity of violence between them.

That is just the plain truth. We must interact to understand ourselves.

9jakool:


I don't blame Northerners necessarily. It's not good to generalize the North as Islamist backwards because there are hundreds of ethnic groups from various religious background. There are Yorubas living in the North, Tiv, Idoma, Igala, Nupe, Gbagyi, Berom,Kamwe,Tyap etc not just Hausa or Fulani. I would love for the minority in the North to have a distinct region of their own. The North central is good, but it's not entirely inclusive of all minorities. Hausa people are not bad nor Fulani, even though there are some who partake in violence. It's not good to paint the people with a broad brush. I think if there is better regionalism, the distrust could lessen.

Apart from Southern Kaduna and Southern Kebbi minority groups, North-central includes all the Northern minorities.
North-east is a minority region too, just that they are 2/3 muslims and Hausa-fulanis know how to use islam as a rallying point.

forgiveness:


You can blame the politicians for the chaos witnessed btw the North and South.

You can also blame the perpetrators of the first coup, causing black blood btw the two.

You can also blame it on the civil war.

You can blame it on big gab btw the two(intermarriage is almost in none existence due to the rigid culture of the North).

You can blame it on the lack of information about the North (many Northerners are very reluctant to expose or give information about their region).

As long as these things are still on ground, we can't expect improved relationship between the North and South.

These points are very true and correct.

I also think many Southerners are not willing or interested to know about the North. Most already conclude with pre-conceived stereotypes.

Nigerians never had a meeting centre. Thank God Abuja is now providing this (as a more central location for all Nigerians).
Lagos was more or less a meeting and developing point for only Southerners.

Southerners really had so much advantage over Northerners.

freshest4live:

Lol, l know you do not like his tone, but l think l understand why he speaks this way, because growing up in my family we saw Tanzanian ITV in our cable stations, which was widespread then but saw and knew very little of Kenya and Ethiopia except the sportsmen who ran. The first time l saw pictures of Nairobi on the internet( in 2008) while reading about Obama, l was stunned. I also read in a magazine some time after that on how Bill Gates enjoyed his time in Kenya, and also this thread has enlightened me as well and l hope to visit kenya someday, not as a refugee or drug dealer though, lol.

That explains it. The power of television. I didn't know Tanzanian movies are watched so widely. Do they even have English titles? Their storylines are very close to Nollywood.

We love visitors, especially legal ones

Nowenuse:


LoL, are you trying to say that there are more Kenyans than Northerners on nairaland? This is a thread abt Kenya.
Northerners are very active on facebook however (almost as equally as Southerners).
Most northerners and Southerners do not meet on friendly and intelligent threads online most times, so they never bother to learn about each other.
How many Southerners are willing to learn about the north in the first place??

Another thing is that take the case of nairaland for instance where Igbos and Yorubas have turned it to a bashing ground. You can hardly find educated northerners and middlebelters involved in such display of immaturity. They will just ignore and stay out of it.

Lol. Igbo V. Afonja. Hahaa

TayserMahiri:


The main tourist attraction there is witchcraft

Haha

Nowenuse:


Ok.
Why your interest and openess to SubSaharan Africans if i may ask?

Do Maghrebis value and cherish the Arab brotherhood?

Was it really true that the Berbers were a christian people before they were islamized and arabized by the arabs? How do berbers or Algerians relate to the history that they were arabized and islamized by Arabs?

Do Algerians/Maghrebis practice an islamic wedding, traditional/cultural weddings or court weddings?

For the fraternity with the Arabs it depends, it is more a religious link! Hadj to Mecca in Saudi Arabia for example, and egyptian syrian drama series on TV , there was an Arab current in magreb in the 60s and 70s, but that decreased after, the only arab country that poeple still care about is palestine .

- and yes berbers were christian before, due to roman invasion , do you know Saint Augustine of Hippo (one of the most important Church Fathers in Western Christianity ) ? he was berber , born in algeria . their was jews also , and population convert to islam and arabized after arab invasion

for wedding we practise the two ! court civil marriage in the town hall first , then with the document the imam can do a religious marriage !

JiggamanGh:


Banned since 2015 and it won't be over till the end of this year.

Hehehehe.... Baba na you o...

Nowenuse:


Apart from Southern Kaduna and Southern Kebbi minority groups, North-central includes all the Northern minorities.
North-east is a minority region too, just that they are 2/3 muslims and Hausa-fulanis know how to use islam as a rallying point.

Yes that includes them too.
Some people consider Bauchi and Gombe as Hausa states even though the majority of the people are just Hausa-speaking minority ethnic groups. It's sad that many of the indigenous languages is only being spoken by the elders and not spoken by the young people anymore. Even though Hausa is a good medium for communication, many young people are not learning the native language as their first language anymore and have switched to only learning just Hausa the same way many young people in the South are loosing their native tongues to Pidgin. I think Nigeria needs to promote these languages and encourage speakers of them. More than 25% of the languages spoken in Africa are in Nigeria or 7% of the total world's total language. Nigeria is the third most linguistically diverse nation in the world and it would be a shame to see many of the languages disappear. The sad reality is that many of these languages are very vulnerable due to the few number of speakers but also the high rate of urbanism, so it's all a matter of time.

Nowenuse:


These points are very true and correct.

I also think many Southerners are not willing or interested to know about the North. Most already conclude with pre-conceived stereotypes.

Nigerians never had a meeting centre. Thank God Abuja is now providing this (as a more central location for all Nigerians).
Lagos was more or less a meeting and developing point for only Southerners.

Southerners really had so much advantage over Northerners.

True talk

Nowenuse:
Many Southern Nigerians enjoy insulting and mocking Northern Nigerians because they are ignorant and don't understand that the cultures and terrain of the North are not the same with the south.

See the way most southern Nigerians have abandoned farming and have all migrated to the cities to form posh and civilized. If all Northerners behaved that way, i swear, Nigerians would starve.
Northern Nigeria is still the reason why Nigeria is not importing tomatoes, Onions, Potatoes, Beans, Groundnut, Carrots, Cucumbers and many other foodstuffs.
The pressure on northerners is now becoming too much, and many have started leaving farming to the cities too. Nigerian govt must act fast and do something about this, if not, the kind of food scarcity, starvation and food importation that will hit Nigeria will be terrible.

Am i saying the truth or not?
@Maduawuchukwu, 9jakool, freshest4live, forgiveness, uzzyfire, iblawi, shervydman, shaytun, Obi1kenobi

well, I think it's different stroke for different folks....the northerners find is difficult to mingle with the southerners except the literates among them,so, they may find it difficult to migrate to the south and start a living.

another point of view is the agricultural sector which the Nigerian govt neglected for so long cos of petrodollar...but,this dispensation is giving tha agricultural sector a lift..for example, Nigeria has ban importation of food and mandates all foods to be produced in Nigeria.like the total tons of rice imported in 2016 is less than 10% of the rice imported in 2015....the plan is to be self sufficient by d end of 2018..i think that's a good initiative.

even the funniest thing is that Nigeria is still one of the world's largest producer of sorghum,cassava,ginger,tomatoes,yam,cocoa,okra,peanut etc despite the fact that our agricultural sector is in shamble. and that makes me to wonder "what if our agricultural sector is doing fine,where will we be?"

but, all is going fine still.......

forgiveness:


You can blame the politicians for the chaos witnessed btw the North and South.

You can also blame the perpetrators of the first coup, causing black blood btw the two.

You can also blame it on the civil war.

You can blame it on big gab btw the two(intermarriage is almost in none existence due to the rigid culture of the North).

You can blame it on the lack of information about the North (many Northerners are very reluctant to expose or give information about their region).

As long as these things are still on ground, we can't expect improved relationship between the North and South.

can we really blame it on the first coup? cos, the coup was meant to purge Nigerians of every irregularities happening in the country.....I even learnt that everybody was happy(including northerners) about the success of the coup until.....

Maduawuchukwu:

Lol. Igbo V. Afonja. Hahaa

LoL Brown roof region V Red mud region

Muafrika2:

That explains it. The power of television. I didn't know Tanzanian movies are watched so widely. Do they even have English titles? Their storylines are very close to Nollywood.

We love visitors, especially legal ones

No, we don't watch TZ movies or movies from any other African countries. It's more or less their music and their Big Brother Africa stars.

chkil0:



For the fraternity with the Arabs it depends, it is more a religious link! Hadj to Mecca in Saudi Arabia for example, and egyptian syrian drama series on TV , there was an Arab current in magreb in the 60s and 70s, but that decreased after, the only arab country that poeple still care about is palestine .

- and yes berbers were christian before, due to roman invasion , do you know Saint Augustine of Hippo (one of the most important Church Fathers in Western Christianity ) ? he was berber , born in algeria . their was jews also , and population convert to islam and arabized after arab invasion

for wedding we practise the two ! court civil marriage in the town hall first , then with the document the imam can do a religious marriage !

Ok

Is polygamy still rampant in Algeria and the maghreb (due to islam)? Is it encouraged or discouraged?

Nowenuse:


That's why i said it is fair and unfair at the same time.

In Anambra for example, 50,000 students (who are probably more intelligent and exposed) will apply, while in Zamfara only 5,000 students (who are less intelligent and exposed) will apply. And there are limited spaces.

If you don't protect the Zamfara students with such laws, they will have no space.

It's just like bringing students from Nairobi central area to compete with students from a village in Garissa. Is that fair?

Less intelligent?

Muafrika2:

That explains it. The power of television. I didn't know Tanzanian movies are watched so widely. Do they even have English titles? Their storylines are very close to Nollywood.

We love visitors, especially legal ones

Specifically

chkil0:



For the fraternity with the Arabs it depends, it is more a religious link! Hadj to Mecca in Saudi Arabia for example, and egyptian syrian drama series on TV , there was an Arab current in magreb in the 60s and 70s, but that decreased after, the only arab country that poeple still care about is palestine .

and yes berbers were christian before, due to roman invasion , do you know [b]Saint Augustine of Hippo (one of the most important Church Fathers in Western Christianity ) ? he was berber , born in algeria [/b]

for wedding we practise the two ! court civil marriage in the town hall first , then with the document the imam can do a religious marriage !

Hello Algerian! I've read a little about St. Augustine before though I think he was too Europeanized. Where was he buried?

9jakool:


Yes that includes them too.
Some people consider Bauchi and Gombe as Hausa states even though the majority of the people are just Hausa-speaking minority ethnic groups. It's sad that many of the indigenous languages is only being spoken by the elders and not spoken by the young people anymore. Even though Hausa is a good medium for communication, many young people are not learning the native language as their first language anymore and have switched to only learning just Hausa the same way many young people in the South are loosing their native tongues to Pidgin. I think Nigeria needs to promote these languages and encourage speakers of them. More than 25% of the languages spoken in Africa are in Nigeria or 7% of the total world's total language. Nigeria is the third most linguistically diverse nation in the world and it would be a shame to see many of the languages disappear. The sad reality is that many of these languages are very vulnerable due to the few number of speakers but also the high rate of urbanism, so it's all a matter of time.

Hmm, u seem to know quite much about the north.

It's so unfortunate. Half of Nigeria's language are going to go extinct in few decades from now (including my own language). Half or 2/3 of my own people have switched to Hausa and adopted it as their mother's tongue.

As for Bauchi state, most native languages there are already extinct or at the verge of extinction. Bauchi and Plateau people are of same ethnic stocks, but because most Bauchi people were islamized, Hausanization was faster in Bauchi.

Hausanization has had the advantage of uniting people from dozens of ethnic groups in the north. it wouldn't have been such a bad idea to most northern minorities if not for the unprogressive nature of the Hausas themselves.

Hey Nowenuse, haven't you heard the Chibok girls are free?

shervydman:

well, I think it's different stroke for different folks....the northerners find is difficult to mingle with the southerners except the literates among them,so, they may find it difficult to migrate to the south and start a living.

another point of view is the agricultural sector which the Nigerian govt neglected for so long cos of petrodollar...but,this dispensation is giving tha agricultural sector a lift..for example, Nigeria has ban importation of food and mandates all foods to be produced in Nigeria.like the total tons of rice imported in 2016 is less than 10% of the rice imported in 2015....the plan is to be self sufficient by d end of 2018..i think that's a good initiative.

even the funniest thing is that Nigeria is still one of the world's largest producer of sorghum,cassava,ginger,tomatoes,yam,cocoa,okra,peanut etc despite the fact that our agricultural sector is in shamble. and that makes me to wonder "what if our agricultural sector is doing fine,where will we be?"

but, all is going fine still.......

Very true. Agriculture is part of the future of Nigeria.

Many northerners are now migrating to the South to stay.

TayserMahiri:
Hey Nowenuse, haven't you heard the Chibok girls are free?

Yes its all over. Not all have been freed though.

TayserMahiri:


Less intelligent?

Yes, less intelligent (i.e less enlightened)

Nowenuse:


Yes, less intelligent (i.e less enlightened)

That word though. Intelligence refers to the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. (Keyword: Ability )
I get your point though