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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:00am On May 09, 2017 |
Am watching a Kenyan businesswoman teaching Nigerians about about Moringa on TVC. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:01am On May 09, 2017 |
darfay: Yes you are correct. i think i might be using the wrong words though when i said 'penetrating', because musics from other African countries can be hardly heard in public in Nigeria. What i think i was supposed to say was 'familiar'. Many Nigerians (young music lovers) are very familiar and are definitely fans to the likes of Casper nyovest, AKA, Mafikizolo, e.t.c from South Africa, Diamond and Vanessa mdee from Tanzania and Sauti sol from Kenya. Our own artistes feature them in Nigerian musics and vice versa. Take this South African music KHONA by Mafikizolo and Uhuru for instance, this song heavily penetrated Nigeria in 2012, and yes it was played in many public places. I myself even became familiar with the song after hearing it in many public places in Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:04am On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Congolese swahili is as distant and strange to a kenyan ear, as british english is from singapore English. You can tell its swahili right but the meanings are as far as Everest is from Kilimanjaro. Example: Congolese swahili:twende kunyama. (Meaning lets go and eat) Kenyan (and general standard swahili):Twende tule. Congolese swahili : Place/situation: Fasi. Kenyan swahili: Mahali. Use in a sentence: Congolese: Twende fasi kunyama. (Lets go to a place to eat). Kenyan: Twende mahali tule. Strange, isnt it? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:06am On May 09, 2017 |
popizaino: Ok i see. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:15am On May 09, 2017 |
Port Harcourt vs Mombasa, Under transportation Amenities It seems Port Harcourt has given Mombasa TKO on transportation. Watch Mono rails construction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDA5kUQF4jM P.s the project is on hold due to politics of bitterness. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:18am On May 09, 2017 |
forgiveness: KISUMU CITY 1. Kenya pipeline oil terminal- Kisumu 2. Kisumu train container depot 3. Kisumu Port
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:19am On May 09, 2017 |
mtis: any source and true statistic to compare numbers ? for contenair trafic it s calculated with TEUs ( twenty-foot equivalent units) 1 - Port Said Egypt 3,850,000 TEU in 2015 (37 in the world) 2 - Tanger Med Morocco 2,964,324 TEU in 2015 ( 50 ) 3 - Durban South Africa 2,770,335 TEU in 2015 ( 56 ) 4 - Alexandria Egypt 1,688,301 TEU in 2015 ( 88) 5 - Lagos Nigeria 1,538,086 TEU in 2015 (97) mambasa port 1,076,118 TEU in 2015 ( not in the top 100 ) source : - The Lloyd's List of the World's Busiest Container Ports 2015 (Top 100) - for mambasa port http://af.reuters.com/article/kenyaNews/idAFL2N1690FT |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:23am On May 09, 2017 |
MtuMsuper: Okay. ..Asante sana. Are you really still working on your pidgin? If yes, interesting. I want to perfect my programming skills, so i have to learn and master many languages. I am looking into Swahili and Portuguese in addition to my French. Do Kenyans use applications and programs in swahili? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:25am On May 09, 2017 |
While we are waiting for Mombasa's Intra rail system pictures, let me chip in some video documentaries of Port Harcourt. Infrastructure development of the city . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLDUsF6y474&itct=CBEQpDAYAiITCP7Z9rq54tMCFY8OHAodEV8MQTIHcmVsYXRlZEj-8-j58drm1Bk%3D Greater Port Harcourt city project. You will notice that the city is well planned from the scratch. ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gama1x86Of4&itct=CBEQpDAYAiITCNPn77q54tMCFQTLFgod_ZkJIzIHcmVsYXRlZEi-x8v1hZa12LwB |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:25am On May 09, 2017 |
MtuMsuper: The way you guys talk about Tanzanians make them look very inferior. But what see from them is very different. Dar es salam looks very developed and can compare Nairobi and Lagos. How would that have been possible? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:29am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar: I want Mombasa vs Port Harcourt ![]() Don't be scared. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:31am On May 09, 2017 |
chkil0: Hehehehe! ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:38am On May 09, 2017 |
MtuMsuper: Ok i dont know much about the local East African competition. I am only commenting from the broader African perspective. Kenyans are dominating economically while Tanzanians are dominating socially and in entertainment (from the perspective of the average non east African). Justin Bieber is based in USA. 50% of his worldwide fans are Americans and not Canadians. Any Canadian entertainer who must gain worldwide popularity must use the American platform. Drake, Carly rae jepsen and many other Hollywood stars are also Canadians. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:42am On May 09, 2017 |
MtuMsuper: Ok, why then did it evolve so differently. I think there should be an international standard swahili which all swahili speakers should conform to, if not, the language would end up becoming bastardized as it spreads further. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:52am On May 09, 2017 |
forgiveness: So it aint even operating? What are you showing it for anyway? Meanwhile in Mombasa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozKZs2ru04
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 11:02am On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Dialectal differences. For example, a Moroccan speaking arabic will not be understood by an average iraqi chkil0 confirm this. The Standard kiswahili dialect taught in schools from day 1 has its antecedent in the dialect spoken in zanzibar, called KiUnguja. The proper name for Zanzibar is Unguja. In all there are about 17 dialects of Swahili, and the congolese one is among them, and is referred to as KiUngwana. Its very refreshing to hear them speak it ,and remember at least 1/2 of Congolese speak it, so it must have its due attention. The development of strains in languages is nothing new. Geographical separation can and does cause changes in accents and vocabulary. You yourself said here ghana hausa is different from Nigerian hausa. But its still hausa. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 11:07am On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Nope, we don't "inferiorise" folks. Its just that on average, the average Tanzanian bloke is less woke and there is a real perception backed by mere observations, that the average kenyan bloke is also more educated. What that means in most cases, us that our perspectives differ and clash based on those factors. FYI slums are also in Dar. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:12am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar: Is the one you posted functional? ![]() This is inter city, I guess. ![]() This building should be the terminal, right? ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 11:12am On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Yes, mobile menus in Kenya are in both English and kiswahili. One can use several apps(mostly locally developed ), in kiswahili. In Tanzania, one can study certain professional courses entirely in Swahili language. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 11:13am On May 09, 2017 |
forgiveness: Hahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() I hope i wont embarrass you that much.....
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:16am On May 09, 2017 |
MtuMsuper: Maghrebis speak their own local arabic dialects which are very different from the international arabic, but nevertheless, almost all educated maghrebis speak and understand international standard arabic fluently. That's my point. Kano hausa dialect is the official hausa dialect and almost all Hausa speakers can understand and speak it. Educated speakers can write it (Although, Zaria/Kaduna dialect is seriously challenging it). So, do Rwandan and Congolese swahili speakers speak and understand the international standard very well? You guys keep saying half of Congo speaks swahili, but from all the online and physical facts i see, only 1/4 of Congo speaks it. Where is the mix up coming from? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 11:20am On May 09, 2017 |
forgiveness: Thats magnificient structure is the Mombasa terminal... About it functioning i thought you watched the video or you lack enough data bundles to watch the video ![]() ![]() Meanwhile the Kenyan SGR train has a capacity of 1000 passengers travelling at a minimum 120km/h and maximum of 180km/hr. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:23am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar: I think Mombasa's rail is inter-city and not intra-city. @Forgiveness, i see no reason comparing Nigerian and Kenyan cities. They are all developing. None has perfected anything. See Mombasa has a better inter-city rail network, while PH has a better intra-city rail network. We are all still yet to get there. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 11:27am On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse: It was just a matter of showing the infrastructure within and out of this cities.... Mombasa doesn't need require an extensive intra city network since majority of the city is on the island. The main SGR links it to major towns around Mombasa County. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:45am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar: ![]() ![]() ![]() Port Harcourt Inter city railway. ![]()
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:45am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar: under 200 km/h its not called high speed train its an old Standard Gauge Railway system , maxi 120 km/h only , not even electrified , no thing to talk about when others in africa are in high-speed projects (more than 300 km/h) , electrified trains 220km/h , electrified autorail 160 km/h, metro , tramways ect.. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:50am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar:we mkali saana ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:55am On May 09, 2017 |
I think we need to examine Algerian statistics ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:58am On May 09, 2017 |
Kenyanstar: I think Mombasa trashed Port Harcourt Interms of inter - city rail but Port Harcourt thrashed Mombasa with the magnificent airport and Intra - city rail. ![]() Of course, I saw the video and don't forget I also showed you the video of Port Harcourt Mono rails but it doesn't mean it is operating. ![]() Ps. Please, take note that the Coastal Standard Guage railway from Port Harcourt to Lagos is in the pipeline. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:02pm On May 09, 2017 |
Muafrika2: what algerian statistics ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 12:05pm On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Nope, these Kenyans obviously believe they are far ahead of Naija and Nigeria has 80% poverty, not developing and full of scammers. Imagine one of them saying we should claim to be from Ghana when we get to Kenya, lol,can you imagine that? When my people in countries like Germany can confidently claim to be from Nigeria and be loved for having jay jay okocha, whom the Germans love and know, and other Nigerians are breaking grounds everyday and been celebrated for who they are, as the most educated foreigners in the U.S, or as musicians featuring U.S stars etc. So l support forgiveness, we are all for mutual learning, but when you read some of these Kenyan comments you can't help but deviate once in a while. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:19pm On May 09, 2017 |
Nowenuse:The rail you see in the pictures above is NOT light rail, and neither is it intra city. Its conventional, long distance, with standard gauge. It is about to open anytime now, to replace the older one. Its a countrywide project. |
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