Am watching a Kenyan businesswoman teaching Nigerians about about Moringa on TVC.

darfay:



Oga please stop saying rubbish. Nigerians don't know any of those people you are calling. Can you even hear their music in a Nigerian club? South Africa music penetrating the Nigeria?when you mentioned Kenya I just knew u lost it already if anything it should be Ghanaian music sef but them no reacre
Oga stop to dae famz it's annoying

Yes you are correct.
i think i might be using the wrong words though when i said 'penetrating', because musics from other African countries can be hardly heard in public in Nigeria.

What i think i was supposed to say was 'familiar'.
Many Nigerians (young music lovers) are very familiar and are definitely fans to the likes of Casper nyovest, AKA, Mafikizolo, e.t.c from South Africa, Diamond and Vanessa mdee from Tanzania and Sauti sol from Kenya. Our own artistes feature them in Nigerian musics and vice versa.

Take this South African music KHONA by Mafikizolo and Uhuru for instance, this song heavily penetrated Nigeria in 2012, and yes it was played in many public places. I myself even became familiar with the song after hearing it in many public places in Nigeria.

Nowenuse:


Huwezi kusema swahili vizuri sana

I speak Rwandan and Congolese swahili, so it's different from your Kenyan swahili.
You have to learn mine.

Congolese swahili is as distant and strange to a kenyan ear, as british english is from singapore English. You can tell its swahili right but the meanings are as far as Everest is from Kilimanjaro.
Example:
Congolese swahili:twende kunyama. (Meaning lets go and eat)
Kenyan (and general standard swahili):Twende tule.
Congolese swahili : Place/situation: Fasi.
Kenyan swahili: Mahali.

Use in a sentence:
Congolese: Twende fasi kunyama. (Lets go to a place to eat).
Kenyan: Twende mahali tule.

Strange, isnt it?

popizaino:
I know abuja does not have much high rise buildings too but there is strict building policies within the city centre proper that why you hardly find irregularities in building pattern in the general view of the city.but that can't be said of the ghanian capital that y it keeps growing inefficiently and as of port Harcourt I have never been there I doubt if it was than accra .we are talking of the capital of a whole country witnessing massive growth through repatriates returning home to build at will due to the peaceful nature of the country.

Ok i see.

Port Harcourt vs Mombasa, Under transportation Amenities

It seems Port Harcourt has given Mombasa TKO on transportation.

Watch Mono rails construction.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDA5kUQF4jM

P.s the project is on hold due to politics of bitterness.

forgiveness:
Port Harcourt vs Mombasa

Transportation amenities.

Intra rail

KISUMU CITY
1. Kenya pipeline oil terminal- Kisumu
2. Kisumu train container depot
3. Kisumu Port

mtis:

My friend you might wanna check it again

Africa’s biggest shipping ports

1 . Durban, South Africa
2. Mombasa, Kenya
3 .Djibouti
4 . Lagos, Nigeria
5 . Abidjan, Ivory Coast
6 .Suez Canal, Egypt
7 .Tangier, Morocco

any source and true statistic to compare numbers ?

for contenair trafic it s calculated with TEUs ( twenty-foot equivalent units)

1 - Port Said Egypt 3,850,000 TEU in 2015 (37 in the world)
2 - Tanger Med Morocco 2,964,324 TEU in 2015 ( 50 )
3 - Durban South Africa 2,770,335 TEU in 2015 ( 56 )
4 - Alexandria Egypt 1,688,301 TEU in 2015 ( 88)
5 - Lagos Nigeria 1,538,086 TEU in 2015 (97)

mambasa port 1,076,118 TEU in 2015 ( not in the top 100 )

source :
- The Lloyd's List of the World's Busiest Container Ports 2015 (Top 100)
- for mambasa port http://af.reuters.com/article/kenyaNews/idAFL2N1690FT

MtuMsuper:

Choii!!! Umejaribu mno (you have really tried). I give you 95%.

E be the same tori like pidgin, n for u sabi wella you must tey for dis obodo kenya.
(Is my pidgin improving? ) hehehe....

Okay. ..Asante sana.

Are you really still working on your pidgin? If yes, interesting.

I want to perfect my programming skills, so i have to learn and master many languages. I am looking into Swahili and Portuguese in addition to my French.

Do Kenyans use applications and programs in swahili?

While we are waiting for Mombasa's Intra rail system pictures, let me chip in some video documentaries of Port Harcourt.

Infrastructure development of the city

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLDUsF6y474&itct=CBEQpDAYAiITCP7Z9rq54tMCFY8OHAodEV8MQTIHcmVsYXRlZEj-8-j58drm1Bk%3D


Greater Port Harcourt city project.

You will notice that the city is well planned from the scratch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gama1x86Of4&itct=CBEQpDAYAiITCNPn77q54tMCFQTLFgod_ZkJIzIHcmVsYXRlZEi-x8v1hZa12LwB

MtuMsuper:

True. Ugandans are faaaaaar more educated and exposed.

The way you guys talk about Tanzanians make them look very inferior.
But what see from them is very different. Dar es salam looks very developed and can compare Nairobi and Lagos. How would that have been possible?

Kenyanstar:


KISUMU CITY
1. Kenya pipeline oil terminal- Kisumu
2. Kisumu train container depot
3. Kisumu Port

I want Mombasa vs Port Harcourt

Don't be scared.

chkil0:


any source and true statistic to compare numbers ?

for contenaire trafic is calculated with TEUs ( twenty-foot equivalent units)

1 - Port Said Egypt 3,850,000 TEU in 2015
2 - Tanger Med Morocco 2,964,324 TEU in 2015
3 - Durban South Africa 2,770,335 TEU in 2015
4 - Alexandria Egypt 1,688,301 TEU in 2015
5 - Lagos Nigeria 1,538,086 TEU in 2015

mambasa port 1,076,118 TEU in 2015

source :
- The Lloyd's List of the World's Busiest Container Ports 2015 (Top 100)
- for mambasa port http://af.reuters.com/article/kenyaNews/idAFL2N1690FT

Hehehehe!

MtuMsuper:

Bros, this "domination" philosophy doesn't apply here. Our countries share a common language. Do you have any idea how popular kenyan comedians and TV are in Tanzania? I was once in Dar es Salaam and at 7 pm during the early evening newscast in kiswahili(all channels), the Tanzanians were all glued to the no.1 kiswahili 7 o'clock news channel called Citizen Nipashe from Kenya.They dont like their own news channels. I mean,its just the other day i learnt that this popstar kid called Justin Bieber is a Canadian!!!You don't hear canadians bragging that they are dominating American music, do you?

Ok i dont know much about the local East African competition. I am only commenting from the broader African perspective.
Kenyans are dominating economically while Tanzanians are dominating socially and in entertainment (from the perspective of the average non east African).

Justin Bieber is based in USA. 50% of his worldwide fans are Americans and not Canadians. Any Canadian entertainer who must gain worldwide popularity must use the American platform. Drake, Carly rae jepsen and many other Hollywood stars are also Canadians.

MtuMsuper:

Congolese swahili is as distant and strange to a kenyan ear, as british english is from singapore English. You can tell its swahili right but the meanings are as far as Everest is from Kilimanjaro.
Example:
Congolese swahili:twende kunyama. (Meaning lets go and eat)
Kenyan (and general standard swahili):Twende tule.
Congolese swahili : Place/situation: Fasi.
Kenyan swahili: Mahali.

Use in a sentence:
Congolese: Twende fasi kunyama. (Lets go to a place to eat).
Kenyan: Twende mahali tule.

Strange, isnt it?

Ok, why then did it evolve so differently. I think there should be an international standard swahili which all swahili speakers should conform to, if not, the language would end up becoming bastardized as it spreads further.

forgiveness:
Port Harcourt vs Mombasa, Under transportation Amenities

It seems Port Harcourt has given Mombasa TKO on transportation.

Watch Mono rails construction.

P.s the project is on hold due to politics of bitterness.

So it aint even operating? What are you showing it for anyway?

Meanwhile in Mombasa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozKZs2ru04

Nowenuse:


Ok, why then did it evolve so differently. I think there should be an international standard swahili which all swahili speakers should conform to, if not, the language would end up becoming bastardized as it spreads further.

Dialectal differences. For example, a Moroccan speaking arabic will not be understood by an average iraqi chkil0 confirm this.
The Standard kiswahili dialect taught in schools from day 1 has its antecedent in the dialect spoken in zanzibar, called KiUnguja. The proper name for Zanzibar is Unguja. In all there are about 17 dialects of Swahili, and the congolese one is among them, and is referred to as KiUngwana. Its very refreshing to hear them speak it ,and remember at least 1/2 of Congolese speak it, so it must have its due attention.

The development of strains in languages is nothing new. Geographical separation can and does cause changes in accents and vocabulary. You yourself said here ghana hausa is different from Nigerian hausa. But its still hausa.

Nowenuse:


The way you guys talk about Tanzanians make them look very inferior.
But what see from them is very different. Dar es salam looks very developed and can compare Nairobi and Lagos. How would that have been possible?

Nope, we don't "inferiorise​" folks. Its just that on average, the average Tanzanian bloke is less woke and there is a real perception backed by mere observations, that the average kenyan bloke is also more educated. What that means in most cases, us that our perspectives differ and clash based on those factors. FYI slums are also in Dar.

Kenyanstar:


So it aint even operating? What are you showing it for anyway?

Meanwhile in Mombasa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozKZs2ru04

Is the one you posted functional?

This is inter city, I guess.

This building should be the terminal, right?

Nowenuse:


Okay. ..Asante sana.

Are you really still working on your pidgin? If yes, interesting.

I want to perfect my programming skills, so i have to learn and master many languages. I am looking into Swahili and Portuguese in addition to my French.

Do Kenyans use applications and programs in swahili?

Yes, mobile menus in Kenya are in both English and kiswahili. One can use several apps(mostly locally developed ), in kiswahili.
In Tanzania, one can study certain professional courses entirely in Swahili language.

forgiveness:


I want Mombasa vs Port Harcourt

Don't be scared.

Hahahaha
I hope i wont embarrass you that much.....

MtuMsuper:

Dialectal differences. For example, a Moroccan speaking arabic will not be understood by an average iraqi chkil0 confirm this.
The Standard kiswahili dialect taught in schools from day 1 has its antecedent in the dialect spoken in zanzibar, called KiUnguja. The proper name for Zanzibar is Unguja. In all there are about 17 dialects of Swahili, and the congolese one is among them, and is referred to as KiUngwana. Its very refreshing to hear them speak it ,and remember at least 1/2 of Congolese speak it, so it must have its due attention.

The development of strains in languages is nothing new. Geographical separation can and does cause changes in accents and vocabulary. You yourself said here ghana hausa is different from Nigerian hausa. But its still hausa.

Maghrebis speak their own local arabic dialects which are very different from the international arabic, but nevertheless, almost all educated maghrebis speak and understand international standard arabic fluently. That's my point.
Kano hausa dialect is the official hausa dialect and almost all Hausa speakers can understand and speak it. Educated speakers can write it (Although, Zaria/Kaduna dialect is seriously challenging it).

So, do Rwandan and Congolese swahili speakers speak and understand the international standard very well?

You guys keep saying half of Congo speaks swahili, but from all the online and physical facts i see, only 1/4 of Congo speaks it. Where is the mix up coming from?

forgiveness:


Is the one you posted functional?

This is inter city, I guess.

This building should be the terminal, right?

Thats magnificient structure is the Mombasa terminal... About it functioning i thought you watched the video or you lack enough data bundles to watch the video . Nigerian poor cellular network can be a problem bro, i understand your struggle.

Meanwhile the Kenyan SGR train has a capacity of 1000 passengers travelling at a minimum 120km/h and maximum of 180km/hr.

Kenyanstar:


Hahahaha
I hope i wont embarrass you that much.....

I think Mombasa's rail is inter-city and not intra-city.

@Forgiveness, i see no reason comparing Nigerian and Kenyan cities. They are all developing. None has perfected anything.
See Mombasa has a better inter-city rail network, while PH has a better intra-city rail network.

We are all still yet to get there.

Nowenuse:


I think Mombasa's rail is inter-city and not intra-city.

@Forgiveness, i see no reason comparing Nigerian and Kenyan cities. They are all developing. None has perfected anything.
See Mombasa has a better inter-city rail network, while PH has a better intra-city rail network.

We are all still yet to get there.

It was just a matter of showing the infrastructure within and out of this cities.... Mombasa doesn't need require an extensive intra city network since majority of the city is on the island. The main SGR links it to major towns around Mombasa County.

Kenyanstar:


Hahahaha
I hope i wont embarrass you that much.....

try harder.

Port Harcourt Inter city railway.

Kenyanstar:


So it aint even operating? What are you showing it for anyway?

Meanwhile in Mombasa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozKZs2ru04

under 200 km/h its not called high speed train its an old Standard Gauge Railway system , maxi 120 km/h only , not even electrified , no thing to talk about when others in africa are in high-speed projects (more than 300 km/h) , electrified trains 220km/h , electrified autorail 160 km/h, metro , tramways ect..

Kenyanstar:


Thats magnificient structure is the Mombasa terminal... About it functioning i thought you watched the video or you lack enough data bundles to watch the video . Nigerian poor cellular network can be a problem bro, i understand your struggle.

we mkali saana

I think we need to examine Algerian statistics

Kenyanstar:


Thats magnificient structure is the Mombasa terminal... About it functioning i thought you watched the video or you lack enough data bundles to watch the video . Nigerian poor cellular network can be a problem bro, i understand your struggle.

Meanwhile the Kenyan SGR train has a capacity of 1000 passengers travelling at a minimum 120km/h and maximum of 180km/hr.

I think Mombasa trashed Port Harcourt Interms of inter - city rail but Port Harcourt thrashed Mombasa with the magnificent airport and Intra - city rail.

Of course, I saw the video and don't forget I also showed you the video of Port Harcourt Mono rails but it doesn't mean it is operating.


Ps. Please, take note that the Coastal Standard Guage railway from Port Harcourt to Lagos is in the pipeline.

Muafrika2:
I think we need to examine Algerian statistics

what algerian statistics ?

Nowenuse:


I think Mombasa's rail is inter-city and not intra-city.

@Forgiveness, i see no reason comparing Nigerian and Kenyan cities. They are all developing. None has perfected anything.
See Mombasa has a better inter-city rail network, while PH has a better intra-city rail network.

We are all still yet to get there.

Nope, these Kenyans obviously believe they are far ahead of Naija and Nigeria has 80% poverty, not developing and full of scammers. Imagine one of them saying we should claim to be from Ghana when we get to Kenya, lol,can you imagine that? When my people in countries like Germany can confidently claim to be from Nigeria and be loved for having jay jay okocha, whom the Germans love and know, and other Nigerians are breaking grounds everyday and been celebrated for who they are, as the most educated foreigners in the U.S, or as musicians featuring U.S stars etc. So l support forgiveness, we are all for mutual learning, but when you read some of these Kenyan comments you can't help but deviate once in a while.

Nowenuse:


I think Mombasa's rail is inter-city and not intra-city.

@Forgiveness, i see no reason comparing Nigerian and Kenyan cities. They are all developing. None has perfected anything.
See Mombasa has a better inter-city rail network, while PH has a better intra-city rail network.

We are all still yet to get there.

The rail you see in the pictures above is NOT light rail, and neither is it intra city. Its conventional, long distance, with standard gauge. It is about to open anytime now, to replace the older one. Its a countrywide project.