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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 3:56am On May 08, 2017
bzm7:
@Truthinlife please I have tried reaching you twice, I need theses doors too in PH.

Sorry I'm just seeing this post.
I don't want to violate the rules here; pls nbox me your watsapp contact and I will send you info.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ehay(f): 7:42am On May 08, 2017
Chekitaut:
Cement is your best option if you can supply to retailers or consumers min of 300bags

Tiles breakable can hit you out of business

Timber you need a space within a timber market.

please Oga, between timber and cement which will give me the most return on investment? Thanks a million.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 10:21am On May 08, 2017
diordaves:


Let's extrapolation from details and statistics contained in the article.

So Africa nay Nigeria has an army of restless youths in their 30s with below par purchasing power. When you build for investment rentals, what age demographic is your target market? If you dwell on this, you will understand why there's high rental default. We are designing and building houses for a demographic that can't afford them.

Africa, including Nigeria don't trade with one another. So we go to China, Turkey to buy doors for example. But do you know Egypt has top quality doors with competence in Egypt? Can we link that competence to Benin Edo State where the woodwork trade is dying out?

3D printing. Will this kill architecture? Civil engineering? Disruptive technology.

A 21yr old in South Africa has discovered blocks made out of waste paper and got funding. Is this the future or there's more?

I can go on and on.

So with obviously failing leadership, can the diaspora step in and step up? Can we bring back tools and machinery and technology and pass them on to our artisans and builders? Can the diaspora be the catalyst for Nigeria to plug into​ the next wave of wealth creation? Internet.

Well-said!
IMO, l think that apart from inept leadership (and greedy, selfish and short-sighted "followership"wink, our two greatest problems stem from CORRUPTION and LACK OF PLANNING nay prioritisation.

Like it is said, How can you WALK, if you cant CRAWL"?
POWER (Electricity), followed by STEEL, is at the backbone of any Industrialisation and until we get those two right, in that order, we will just be having summit after summit, producing one white paper after another and speaking turainchi like a Professor!


I've travelled far and wide, been to SA a few times and one common denominator in all "developing" or developed economies is STABLE POWER ....at least to about 20hrs of stable power, daily.
Benin woodwork cannot survive or go beyond "local artisan' level, without power.
Diasporeans will only be wasting their hard-earned money if they decide to "emotionally" in plug it into an economy that shows no sign of advancing in the immediate future, when their are tens of alternatives that can fulfil the same purpose.

How can our Youths have 'par purchasing power', when they are not fully productive, to their full potentials?

We are just too used to putting the Cart, before the Horse.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Wagasigiungu(m): 4:10pm On May 08, 2017
Truthinlife:
Can someone please help with contacts of where I can get this ceiling boards in Port Harcourt or anywhere in the east. Someone gave me a company's contact around Benin but they don't have it.
Love this design. Hope it is strong, durable and readily available
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 3:21pm On May 09, 2017
lorhema:


I thought you had to treat water from a borehole. Looks like its not compulsory,only when the water has issues?
How would you know if the water had issues that would take a long time to manifest symptoms.

Water quality should be tested annually for individuals and quarterly for organisations. They test for minimum of the following:

Total coliform bacteria
Nitrate/Nitrites
pH
Total dissolved solids (TDS).
Fluoride
Organic Carbon Contaminants (Pesticides, Industrial Pollution etc.)

In south-south it used to cost about 50k-150k and can be done by many laboratories including medical labs, petroleum analysis labs etc. Normally it preceeds borehole treatment but most folks just treat without testing.

On your own you can actually readup on likely/general profile of the water in your area online or the nearby university library as there are a lot of project topics by geology students at bsc and msc levels about borehole quality and groundwater contamination

DIY kits do exist for self testing but require basic knowledge.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:34pm On May 09, 2017
It is crazy and scary when your contractor starts adding up cost of windows and doors grin . Chest beats faster than as if one is being confronted by wild animal grin cheesy shocked shocked
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 7:23pm On May 09, 2017
44chux:

How would you know if the water had issues that would take a long time to manifest symptoms.

Water quality should be tested annually for individuals and quarterly for organisations. They test for minimum of the following:

Total coliform bacteria
Nitrate/Nitrites
pH
Total dissolved solids (TDS).
Fluoride
Organic Carbon Contaminants (Pesticides, Industrial Pollution etc.)

In south-south it used to cost about 50k-150k and can be done by many laboratories including medical labs, petroleum analysis labs etc. Normally it preceeds borehole treatment but most folks just treat without testing.

On your own you can actually readup on likely/general profile of the water in your area online or the nearby university library as there are a lot of project topics by geology students at bsc and msc levels about borehole quality and groundwater contamination

DIY kits do exist for self testing but require basic knowledge.
50-150k to test water quality? Why should its be individual or commercial entities business in the first place, it's should be government business to make sure sefe water get to the citizenry for consumption. All the water that go through pipes in my location is tested every 5 minutes, I repeat every 5 minute 24/7 throughout the years.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 7:26pm On May 09, 2017
mufutau55:


Why not. Its for goodness of everyone o.

Hajji M.
Do you remember sending me window casement with burglary a while back, is #110,000 good price per one?. As in quality materials
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:36pm On May 09, 2017
Empiree:
Do you remember sending me window casement with burglary a while back, is #110,000 good price per one?. As in quality materials

N110,000 per casement window? What size?
My widest windows are 6ft x 4ft (1,800x1200) for N85k which includes customized designed Burglary
not the straight iron type and Net and I had about 37 windows made, big money o.
Contact me by email, so I can send you contact person. Did you also contact Muyesky for quotes?
My quality material will be Tower Aluminium, other people may vary.

Hajji M.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 7:56pm On May 09, 2017
@ hajji I disagree with your opinion in that regard, how many people can afford to test water quality @50-150k even if it's was once a year. Every government form 1976 till date as failed us as people. I hope things turns around for better Soon
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Bossman(m): 8:37pm On May 09, 2017
Some of those buglaries posted above really take away from the beauty of the windows and house in general. Unfortunately, this is the situation we find ourselves in if we build in Naija. Provide your own water, your own electricity, your own security, and so on......

mufutau55:


N110,000 per casement window? What size?
My widest windows are 6ft x 4ft (1,800x1200) for N85k which includes customized designed Burglary
not the straight iron type and Net and I had about 37 windows made, big money o.
Contact me by email, so I can send you contact person. Did you also contact Muyesky for quotes?
My quality material will be Tower Aluminium, other people may vary.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:37pm On May 09, 2017
kopell:
50-150k to test water quality? Why should its be individual or commercial entities business in the first place, it's should be government business to make sure sefe water get to the citizenry for consumption. All the water that go through pipes in my location is tested every 5 minutes, I repeat every 5 minute 24/7 throughout the years.
. PLEASE WHERE IS THAT YOUR LOCATION?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:41pm On May 09, 2017
kopell:
@hajji I disagree with your opinion in that regard, how many people can afford to test water quality @50-150k even if it's was once a year. Every government form 1976 till date as failed us as people. I hope things turns around for better Soon

No. It was not me you quoted, may be somebody else who said that. I don't know much about water o....
Please check the original message again.
Just like Shaggy said, "It wasn't me o".

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:43pm On May 09, 2017
Bossman:
Some of those buglaries posted above really take away from the beauty of the windows and house in general. Unfortunately, this is the situation we find ourselves in if we build in Naija. Provide your own water, your own electricity, your own security, and so on......

My brother, I wish I don't have to do burglary at all... but we need a deterrent; not really a solution.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by igwedehxy: 8:48pm On May 09, 2017
Hello gurus, please I need you guys to advice me on what to do. I am about to fix burglary for the windows and doors for the main entrance of my ongoing building project, so that it will be secure. But my builder is saying that I have to fix the window frame, and he will dress the window before fixing the burglary. Now my problem with this are

1. I don't have enough cash on me to add window frame to the burglary and main entrance doors.

2. even if I have the money, can't the person that want to fix the window frame dress the window, because if I involve my builder in dressing the window, then I will have to pay him for just that work and then pay him again when he is doing the plastering.

pls let your suggestions start rolling in
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 8:51pm On May 09, 2017
bixton:
. PLEASE WHERE IS THAT YOUR LOCATION?
? Prove me wrong sir if in possible to do.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:57pm On May 09, 2017
igwedehxy:
Hello gurus, please I need you guys to advice me on what to do. I am about to fix burglary for the windows and doors for the main entrance of my ongoing building project, so that it will be secure. But my builder is saying that I have to fix the window frame, and he will dress the window before fixing the burglary. Now my problem with this are

1. I don't have enough cash on me to add window frame to the burglary and main entrance doors.

2. even if I have the money, can't the person that want to fix the window frame dress the window, because if I involve my builder in dressing the window, then I will have to pay him for just that work and then pay him again when he is doing the plastering.

pls let your suggestions start rolling in

Many people install burglary before windows to safe-guard their materials inside. Although it's good to make things easy for him.
So not sure what your Builder is trying to proof, it's your money.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:01pm On May 09, 2017
kopell:
? Prove me wrong sir if in possible to do.
How can I prove you wrong sir when I do not know your location?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 9:05pm On May 09, 2017
mufutau55:


N110,000 per casement window? What size?
My widest windows are 6ft x 4ft (1,800x1200) for N85k which includes customized designed Burglary
not the straight iron type and Net and I had about 37 windows made, big money o.
Contact me by email, so I can send you contact person. Did you also contact Muyesky for quotes?
My quality material will be Tower Aluminium, other people may vary.

Hajji M.
don't know the size but this is the picture see if you can figure it out.

My windows seem to be 33 total. According to the quote, it is exactly as the one you sent me cus I forwarded your sample to him plus it comes with net.

It is my cousin handling my project and he has been doing good job bcus I took the job from so called contractor who did nothing but collected money. But since my cousin got his hands on it, the project went on faster than i can imagine. I know he would add his little stuff but I'm not bothered.

But this quote is a little too heavy the way i see it. I'm not concluding to do it yet. Just want to hear your view.

Really yours 37 shocked that's almost 3m right there

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 9:10pm On May 09, 2017
Side of the house

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 9:20pm On May 09, 2017
mufutau55:


Many people install burglary before windows to safe-guard their materials inside. Although it's good to make things easy for him.
So not sure what your Builder is trying to proof, it's your money.

Hajji M.
you see when i told my cousin about descriptions of doors i want, I only suggested quality iron doors and gate for all main entrances. I said but all inside doors should be wood. He was like "hell no. everything iron all through" grin grin grin

have to believe him unfortunately cus he lives there. He knows how nija looks like. Honestly i hate burglary stuff but seems we got no choice even if we fence the house. SAD
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:24pm On May 09, 2017
igwedehxy:
Hello gurus, please I need you guys to advice me on what to do. I am about to fix burglary for the windows and doors for the main entrance of my ongoing building project, so that it will be secure. But my builder is saying that I have to fix the window frame, and he will dress the window before fixing the burglary. Now my problem with this are

1. I don't have enough cash on me to add window frame to the burglary and main entrance doors.

2. even if I have the money, can't the person that want to fix the window frame dress the window, because if I involve my builder in dressing the window, then I will have to pay him for just that work and then pay him again when he is doing the plastering.

pls let your suggestions start rolling in
. I hope I understand your question before responding. Clients provide funds for their projects while the Architect/Engineer/Builder takes the best approach/suitable option towards achieving the desired result. A client can install the burglary first due availability of funds and later go for dressing of the windows. I want to assume you are yet to start the plastering of your structure and by so you ought to bargain with your builder on how much he will charge you to plaster the entire structure, dress doors, windows, and burglary. Then you can do it in phases and pay him accordingly as finally agreed. Or if you know the value of work to be achieved per day as against daily pay rate you can schedule it and bargain wisely.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:47pm On May 09, 2017
ehay:


please Oga, between timber and cement which will give me the most return on investment? Thanks a million.
If you supplies you get N50/bag. If u sell on retail to end user you get close to N150/bag. Choose the way to follow.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 10:25pm On May 09, 2017
gentlemate00:
Very good idea for instance for my site I bought tank first after foundation it's was stolen. My site supervisor advice we should dig soak away and use the sand to fill up the foundation and still have free water anytime raining bricklayers no need to buy water. The soak away serve 2 purpose sand for sand fill of foundation still have free water anytime rain fall. Cost saving yes.


did u plaster the soakaway?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 10:31pm On May 09, 2017
akinolaolujide:

Very good idea
If one intend to use one pit for both d septic & soakway...will d idea of storing water with soakaway work?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 10:32pm On May 09, 2017
Empiree:
It is crazy and scary when your contractor starts adding up cost of windows and doors grin . Chest beats faster than as if one is being confronted by wild animal grin cheesy shocked shocked
Lol

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 10:41pm On May 09, 2017
bixton:
. I hope I understand your question before responding. Clients provide funds for their projects while the Architect/Engineer/Builder takes the best approach/suitable option towards achieving the desired result. A client can install the burglary first due availability of funds and later go for dressing of the windows. I want to assume you are yet to start the plastering of your structure and by so you ought to bargain with your builder on how much he will charge you to plaster the entire structure, dress doors, windows, and burglary. Then you can do it in phases and pay him accordingly as finally agreed. Or if you know the value of work to be achieved per day as against daily pay rate you can schedule it and bargain wisely.
If he install d burglary before d window frame...it is going to be difficult to install d window frame & do d dressing...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nextstep(m): 10:55pm On May 09, 2017
Kadiri07:
Hello House
Please which is better and durable between these two.
Wooden kitchen cabinet
And the Block type with Tiles design.
Thanks

Either way has their disadvantages. For me the, the tiles will crack and chip at some point. Once that happens you'll find the damage spreading, and it can be hard to fix without doing a major retiling of a section. Same is true of wood... once it starts to swell or crack from all that moisture, you need to replace something.

All told, I think the wood is easier/cheaper to fix and look good. It's rare to see a fixed tile job look good after some years

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:16pm On May 09, 2017
Empiree:
don't know the size but this is the picture see if you can figure it out.
Really yours 37 shocked that's almost 3m right there

No. The cost is around N1.6m with good negotiation and because he has been doing several other jobs for me in the past and some other NL friends introduced to him.

Ok. You will pay a little bit more for Arc windows, I don't have any Arc window.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:23pm On May 09, 2017
Empiree:
you see when i told my cousin about descriptions of doors i want, I only suggested quality iron doors and gate for all main entrances. I said but all inside doors should be wood. He was like "hell no. everything iron all through" grin grin grin

have to believe him unfortunately cus he lives there. He knows how nija looks like. Honestly i hate burglary stuff but seems we got no choice even if we fence the house. SAD

I wouldn't want any solid iron door for all the rooms.
Some good chinese 70mm steel, nice wooden door like that of Skimanski or good Turkey wooden door will be sufficient. Good Naija wooden doors will ve good too but I hate it when some of them wobbles later.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 12:15am On May 10, 2017
mufutau55:


I wouldn't want any solid iron door for all the rooms.
Some good chinese 70mm steel, nice wooden door like that of Skimanski or good Turkey wooden door will be sufficient. Good Naija wooden doors will ve good too but I hate it when some of them wobbles later.

Hajji M.
I actually want to belief be he meant steel instead of iron. I will ask him again though. I'm not really sabi heavy doors for interior. I might try this Chinese 70mm steel. Looks cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:11am On May 10, 2017
johnson232:

If he install d burglary before d window frame...it is going to be difficult to install d window frame & do d dressing...
. It's a good thing you said "difficult", which means it's possible to do it.

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