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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:03pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


I remember him.

Little or nothing was heard of him again after that tourney. He did not even make it to the U20s.

Same with Mathew Edile.
I think Edile trained with Man city for awhile. He seems to have disappeared into oblivion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:05pm On May 10, 2017
Why is nobody talking about Matthew Olosunde of Manchester United?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:05pm On May 10, 2017
goldfish80:

I think Edile trained with Man city for awhile. He seems to have disappeared into oblivion.

Are you sure if this?

Cos last I enquired about him a couple of years back he was playing football under the Apogbon bridge in Lagos.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:08pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


Are you sure if this?

Cos last I enquired about him a couple of years back he was playing football under the Apogbon bridge in Lagos.
He traveled to England immediately after that tourney.
I recall this because the anticipated move was warmly received.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 6:11pm On May 10, 2017
tbaba1234:

It is still 2:2 according to the LMC twitter page.
it ended 3:3 after 98+ minutes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:14pm On May 10, 2017
goldfish80:

He traveled to England immediately after that tourney.
I recall this because the anticipated move was warmly received.
Icon4s:


Are you sure if this?

Cos last I enquired about him a couple of years back he was playing football under the Apogbon bridge in Lagos.

Edile went to Man city for trials but the move did not materialize.

He spent most of his career in the lower divisions of spain and has been released now. He is a free agent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 6:14pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:

If the fans are banned what will now add glamour to the games?
something drastic is needed to stop this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:15pm On May 10, 2017
Danycrusoe:


it ended 3:3 after 98+ minutes

Nice fighting spirit from Rangers...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 6:16pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:

If the fans are banned what will now add glamour to the games?
something drastic is needed to stop this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:17pm On May 10, 2017
komekn:


I think your being too harsh.


But first when last dud you see him to make that deduction?
I already stated that "the last time I saw him training with the Eagles"...that is pretty specific.

That is why I ended with "I hope he has lost the weight..."

It is not harsh, it is a fact, he was overweight for a footballer, he looked like Ronaldo De Lima after retirement.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:21pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
Need I bold "players showing lots of promise"?

And if you read carefully you will know that i'm implying for the purpose of camping not necessarily changing our starting 11.. Read my post again, slowly and carefully lol


Just for camping?
Please we need players that will contribute to our WC and AFCON qualifications either on the pitch or from the bench. It is not as if we do not have a team in place. We have a team already and any player that is coming in now must add value.

The coaching crew is doing what it can to secure the ones that are AVAILABLE and WILLING to represent Nigeria. And Rohr is not just inviting just to snatch them from England as you put it. He is inviting them based on necessity of using them to fix any position(s) we are lacking depth. That is the adding value I am talking about. For eg Aina and Ebuehi would definitely add depth and options to the defense. But what value will someone like Onyedinma add to the midfield? Remember we still have a lot of young AM/Wingers that have not even been considered. Eg Samuel Kalu, Henry Onyekuru, Obinnna Nwobodo(scored a brace today at away Gombe), Kelechi Nwakali.

If Rohr needs any player whether foreign born or locally born he will invite. If the player is not part of his plans/program then no invitation. Not just because we want to snatch them from England.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:35pm On May 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


Edile went to Man city for trials but the move did not materialize.

He spent most of his career in the lower divisions of spain and have been released now. He is a free agent.

OK I see.

I guess what caught up with his U17 team mates also caught up with him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:36pm On May 10, 2017
We need to think about now and the future. We cannot afford to lose special players to England. This does not in anyway distract us from qualification.

And I don't agree. The NFF is luring players born in England not just for the sake of fixing areas where we have problems. All I'm saying is they should prioritize with really talented players instead. So tell me why did Rohr go for Bazee instead Torunarigha if your assertion is true?

Icon4s:


Just for camping?
Please we need players that will contribute to our WC and AFCON qualifications either on the pitch or from the bench. It is not as if we do not have a team in place. We have a team already and any player that is coming in now must add value.

The coaching crew is doing what it can to secure the ones that are AVAILABLE and WILLING to represent Nigeria. And Rohr is not just inviting just to snatch them from England as you put it. He is inviting them based on necessity of using them to fix any position(s) we are lacking depth. That is the adding value I am talking about. For eg Aina and Ebuehi would definitely add depth and options to the defense. But what value will someone like Onyedinma add to the midfield? Remember we still have a lot of young AM/Wingers that have not even been considered. Eg Samuel Kalu, Henry Onyekuru, Obinnna Nwobodo(scored a brace today at away Gombe), Kelechi Nwakali.

If Rohr needs any player whether foreign born or locally born he will invite. If the player is not part of his plans/program then no invitation. Not just because we want to snatch them from England.



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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:37pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
Why is nobody talking about Matthew Olosunde of Manchester United?

So what about him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:40pm On May 10, 2017
He should be called to SE.. haha..

it's a very innocent question oh.. don't even take it there.

Icon4s:


So what about him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:44pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
We need to think about now and the future. We cannot afford to lose special players to England. This does not in anyway distract us from qualification.


You want to secure all the special English grown Nigerian players?

See, every year talented young Anglo-Nigerian players will be springing up. So also are Nigerian youth internationals. We can only invite those that fit into the team's program now and going forward.

Besides, you want to snatch all the special English born players why can't you develop your own? You want to start harvesting yams from another man's farm when you also have the yam seedlings and fertile land to cultivate and harvest yours.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:47pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
He should be called to SE.. haha..

it's a very innocent question oh.. don't even take it there.


I hear you.

Thank God we saw him play at the 2015 U17 if not by now we for no hear word about that one again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:48pm On May 10, 2017
If I were in the NFF I will make case for a special feeder team for the SE. The primary purpose is to keep our special talents connected to Nigeria so they would feel more Nigerian. This team of young players should not be REQUIRED to go through our U20 set up. All the young PROMISING ABROAD-BORN players will make up this team, and they would be called up every now and then for a get-together to train with the main Super Eagles.
Guys why is it that when oyibo man start to see something really special with our players, that's when everybody starts shouting cap him first. Don't we have our own eyes? Can't we think ahead of time? With the mentality most of us have we will lose more and more Alabas. You expect this boys to choose Nigeria all of a sudden when England wants to cap them in their main team? Well yes, playing for Nigeria should also be a thing of pride, but we can't settle only for the players England would never have even considered for their main team. That's playing second fiddle in the war.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:56pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
He should be called to SE.. haha..

it's a very innocent question oh.. don't even take it there.


he is even more easy for us to snap... being that we're not dragging him with England...
we just have to outsmart USA

let him make his doubt for man united main team first....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:58pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


You want to secure all the special English grown Nigerian players?

See, every year talented young Anglo-Nigerian players will be springing up. So also are Nigerian youth internationals. We can only invite those that fit into the team's program now and going forward.

Besides, you want to snatch all the special English born players why can't you develop your own? You want to start harvesting yams from another man's farm when you also have the yam seedlings and fertile land to cultivate and harvest yours.

Olosunde is not an English born...he is an American citizen

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:00pm On May 10, 2017
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:02pm On May 10, 2017
Humility017:


Olosunde is not an English born...he is an American citizen

Who doesn't know Olusunde's featured for USA, his Country of birth, at the 2015 U17?

I was referring in general terms to the English born Nigerian players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:03pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


I hear you.

Thank God we saw him play at the 2015 U17 if not by now we for no hear word about that one again.

Sir...you forget to mention that...the years gap between when you last saw him play and now...tells much difference for a player's development.
you shouldn't judge him by his performance some years...ago
I really think the lad has developed a lot...
judging by how he is highly rated by the club management even the most difficult to pleased coach(mouriho) regard him and hope he makes his debut someday.
I will advise...for the lad to be watch closely..
he should be one for the future
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:04pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


Who doesn't know Olusunde's featured for USA, his Country of birth, at the 2015 U17?

I was referring in general terms to the English born Nigerian players.
OK...now I get you.
but of a truth we're losing some of the good ones simply because we're not proactive enough

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:05pm On May 10, 2017
Icon4s:


Who doesn't know Olusunde's featured for USA, his Country of birth, at the 2015 U17?

I was referring in general terms to the English born Nigerian players.
OK...now I get you.
but of a truth we're losing some of the good ones simply because we're not proactive enough

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:08pm On May 10, 2017
your argument is appalling. Developing our youth system is totally another matter.
Every Nigerian born at home or abroad is a Nigerian. And we would need all Nigerians to improve be it in sports or otherwise. Hence we must always go for our best. Should we have a Nigerian player who goes abroad and becomes the best in another country, are you saying that country will never offer him their passport or ask him to represent them? Your argument is very misplaced especially in the current world we live in. People who have anything against foreign born Nigerians are delusional. I don't see how this stops you from developing your own. unbelievable.

Icon4s:


You want to secure all the special English grown Nigerian players?

See, every year talented young Anglo-Nigerian players will be springing up. So also are Nigerian youth internationals. We can only invite those that fit into the team's program now and going forward.

Besides, you want to snatch all the special English born players why can't you develop your own? You want to start harvesting yams from another man's farm when you also have the yam seedlings and fertile land to cultivate and harvest yours.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ProfOrlando: 7:20pm On May 10, 2017
But seriously why is everyone criticizing rohr for inviting the likes of sareren-bazee and ebuehi.
as a Nigerian based in Hannover, Germany. I can tell you that sareren-bazee is a great player. I watch him almost every week and for me he's just as good as Sané. he might not score alot of goals but he has other qualities like pace, dribbling and he gives alot of assists too.
I don't really know much about Tyrone but I think he's also good too.
I thinks those NFPL players are just overhyped , these players aren't really good technically, you can tell from the way they play on TV and even their poor performance outside the country in caf tournaments.
I think the best players are the ones abroad. forget odey we've got kayode and kelechi , They are much better , probably when they go abroad they might learn enough to be good enough for the national team.
as for onyekuru's snub, I think rohr is right too. onyekuru does not play in the best of leagues . so he'll have to prove his consistency for another season to prove he's good enough for the national team so he does not end up like the likes of Peter utaka and co.

people might also want to prove me wrong about what I said about home based players with the likes of oboabona mba and co. but I must say that their performance especially in afcon 2013 was mainly because of the late Stephen keshi's tactical genius. you can tell by looking at where they are today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:28pm On May 10, 2017
My criticism is constructive and contextual. I've always supported Rohr's every decision simply because we are winning. My point about Bazee is Torunarigha should have been given more priority because we are still lacking a very good left back. Never said he is not a good player. We are talking about places we need to fix in the SE now. Again, once Germany shows special interest in Torunarigha it would be hard for us then to convince him to play for Nigeria. Nigeria is not proactive enough especially when it matters. Ebuehi was a good move. But he still yet to justify his inclusion. Mind you the likes of Ndidi started from somewhere. So home based does not mean not good enough. But it means they have more to prove. I hope Odey is able to make the SA team. Why not? -- especially if he proves it in Corsica.

ProfOrlando:
But seriously why is everyone criticizing rohr for inviting the likes of sareren-bazee and ebuehi.
as a Nigerian based in Hannover, Germany. I can tell you that sareren-bazee is a great player. I watch him almost every week and for me he's just as good as Sané. he might not score alot of goals but he has other qualities like pace, dribbling and he gives alot of assists too.
I don't really know much about Tyrone but I think he's also good too.
I thinks those NFPL players are just overhyped , these players aren't really good technically, you can tell from the way they play on TV and even their poor performance outside the country in caf tournaments.
I think the best players are the ones abroad. forget odey we've got kayode and kelechi , They are much better , probably when they go abroad they might learn enough to be good enough for the national team.
as for onyekuru's snub, I think rohr is right too. onyekuru does not play in the best of leagues . so he'll have to prove his consistency for another season to prove he's good enough for the national team so he does not end up like the likes of Peter utaka and co.

people might also want to prove me wrong about what I said about home based players with the likes of oboabona mba and co. but I must say that their performance especially in afcon 2013 was mainly because of the late Stephen keshi's tactical genius. you can tell by looking at where they are today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:40pm On May 10, 2017
hahaha. Need I say it again, The NPFL is a big joke!!!

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Enugu Rangers and Gombe United played out a thrilling 3-3 draw in a rescheduled Nigeria Professional Football League (NPFL) game on Wednesday.

Obinna Nwobodo took the game by the scruff of the neck with a virtuoso display capped by two goals either side of the break but the hosts battled back gamely to claim a share of the spoils at the Pantami Stadium, Gombe.

Nwobodo’s first goal on 12 minutes was largely down to great work by Osas Okoro who showed great skill and composure before squaring for the midfielder to tap home from close range.

His second in the 58th minute was down to sheer individual brilliance as the Flying Antelopes dared to dream, licking their lips in anticipation over the prospect of amassing maximum points away from home.

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Austine Oladapo got the fightback underway with a goal from close range and he completed his brace soon after from the penalty spot after the referee adjudged that a Rangers player had handled the ball in the box.

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Manic celebrations by the home fans proved premature in the end as Osas Okoro struck with literally the last kick of the game to give his side a share of the spoils.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:41pm On May 10, 2017
ProfOrlando:
But seriously why is everyone criticizing rohr for inviting the likes of sareren-bazee and ebuehi.
as a Nigerian based in Hannover, Germany. I can tell you that sareren-bazee is a great player. I watch him almost every week and for me he's just as good as Sané. he might not score alot of goals but he has other qualities like pace, dribbling and he gives alot of assists too.
I don't really know much about Tyrone but I think he's also good too.
I thinks those NFPL players are just overhyped , these players aren't really good technically, you can tell from the way they play on TV and even their poor performance outside the country in caf tournaments.
I think the best players are the ones abroad. forget odey we've got kayode and kelechi , They are much better , probably when they go abroad they might learn enough to be good enough for the national team.
as for onyekuru's snub, I think rohr is right too. onyekuru does not play in the best of leagues . so he'll have to prove his consistency for another season to prove he's good enough for the national team so he does not end up like the likes of Peter utaka and co.

people might also want to prove me wrong about what I said about home based players with the likes of oboabona mba and co. but I must say that their performance especially in afcon 2013 was mainly because of the late Stephen keshi's tactical genius. you can tell by looking at where they are today

I agree with you. I have watched Ebuehi a lot and he is a very talented right back. With Aina and Ebuehi, we will not have to worry about the right back position for the next decade if they keep progressing. The fact that Sarenren is been courted by several big teams speaks for itself really.

As regards Onyekuru, I think, he should have been invited. The Belgian league is not that bad and it is certainly better than Bundesliga II. This year we had several Belgian clubs doing well in the Europa league. I watch the league and it is competitive. Simon Moses has been invited severally but he is not in the same form as Onyekuru. Based on current form alone, Onyekuru should get the nod.

I have mentioned some of the things, you mentioned about the home based talents. The best players do not stay in Nigeria for long.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:44pm On May 10, 2017
Humility017:


Sir...you forget to mention that...the years gap between when you last saw him play and now...tells much difference for a player's development.
you shouldn't judge him by his performance some years...ago
I really think the lad has developed a lot...
judging by how he is highly rated by the club management even the most difficult to pleased coach(mouriho) regard him and hope he makes his debut someday.
I will advise...for the lad to be watch closely..
he should be one for the future

That is it. Watch closely. And if he is willing to pledge allegiance to Nigeria we give him the opportunity if the need arises.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:48pm On May 10, 2017
Joebie:
your argument is appalling. Developing our youth system is totally another matter.
Every Nigerian born at home or abroad is a Nigerian. And we would need all Nigerians to improve be it in sports or otherwise. Hence we must always go for our best. Should we have a Nigerian player who goes abroad and becomes the best in another country, are you saying that country will never offer him their passport or ask him to represent them? Your argument is very misplaced especially in the current world we live in. People who have anything against foreign born Nigerians are delusional. I don't see how this stops you from developing your own. unbelievable.


Rohr will invite any Nigerian that will add value whether Foreign born or Nigerian born.

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