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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:07pm On May 10, 2017
9jakool:

Then it would be wrong to compare Port Harcourt to Mombasa because PH is not a tourist destination. Its economy isn't based on tourism, but on oil and petrochemical industries.
Bonny/Ibani/Ubani is also old city with centuries of history as well. It traded with the Europeans, particularly the Portuguese for centuries.
It has many features of Mombasa, although with less tourism. It's also a port city.
Don't mind these people, imagine the jay guy saying he doesn't trust the Nigerian GDP figures, saying how come we have almost the same budget as that of Kenya, he is talking about our federal budget, and not even considering the heavy budgets allocated to each state here, probably he thinks our states are like the counties in Kenya. You don't have to take them very seriously.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:07pm On May 10, 2017
Mombasa

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:09pm On May 10, 2017
freshest4live:

Don't mind these people, imagine the jay guy saying he doesn't trust the Nigerian GDP figures, saying how come we have almost the same budget as that of Kenya, he is talking of our federal budget, not even reffering to the budgets allocated to each state here, probably he thinks our states are like the counties in Kenya. You don't have to take them very serious.

Do you know Kenya has Counties/ states each with its own Budget.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:11pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


Do you know Kenya has Counties/ states each with its own Budget.
Can you compare their budgets to that of Naija? We have 36 states, so many cities and local Governments and the states almost act independently.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by DonnieTheGreat: 6:11pm On May 10, 2017
vaxx:
abuja what? out of the 66 district that make abuja only 6 district is really developed. all the district that make greater accra can be consider develop in west african sense. some district in abuja are far worst.

the airport development you saw was an extension of the old airport to accomodate little aircraft maintainance. and avation fuel centet. first in west africa . second to tripoli airport.

new extention of the old kumasi airport is also underway. i pray the current goverment continue.

lagos is leading as a commercial hub in west africa simply because of population and not base on enabling enviroment. accra might overtake that position if it continue with its current development. although it can be debate. Journesbourg is not as populated like lagos yet it bost of a strong economy that can be compared to europe standard. Likewise alexandra in egypt.




Yes sir, i stay in Abuja..Stop lying i know you don't like Nigeria but the lies are unnecessary.Abuja is like london!!.The only underdeveloped district in Abuja is Nyanya. But even Naynya is not in Abuja its in Nasarawa state. Please kindly mention those 60 underdeveloped districts of Abuja. Atleast mention 3.Thanks

Also you said lagos is leading because of population. Thats illogical, if huge populations meant better GDP then Kano the most populated state in Nigeria would definitely be in the lead. Lagos is developing for many reasons and population is just a very tiny part of it.

Also,
Do you know that atleast 60% of Nigerians are under the age of 18, Another 22% are above the age of 65(retired). That means the Nigerian workforce constitutes of just maximum of 18% of the whole population of the country.

Lets do the math:
18% of 180million is 32 million.

So imagine, 32 million people without constant Electricity, who grew up under very strict military rule and lack access to basic amenities have managed to generate a GDP of over $400 billion.(10% of our GDP comes from oil..not included) in the space of just 17 years of Democratic rule. Imagine!!


Honestly,
I think you guys from other African Countries need to humble yourselves and learn one or two traits from Nigerians. What we have achieved in the last 17 years is somewhat unreal.


We are not perfect but give us the credit we deserve.!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:15pm On May 10, 2017
freshest4live:

Can you compare their budgets to that of Naija? We have 37 states, so many cities and local Governments and the states almost act independently.

Do you know Kenyan system? Do you know how many Counties/states we have? Do you know their Budget?

Do be so sure for on things you have no information about.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 6:16pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:
The other side of Mombasa
a village with electricity and pavements. that's truly inspiring. I can bet that Nigerians will sell their souls just to get this lol.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:17pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


Do you know Kenyan system? Do you know how many Counties/states we have? Do you know their Budget?

Do be so sure for on things you have no information about.
If you don't mind, can you please give us the list and their budgets, Thank you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 6:18pm On May 10, 2017
freshest4live:

Don't mind these people, imagine the jay guy saying he doesn't trust the Nigerian GDP figures, saying how come we have almost the same budget as that of Kenya, he is talking about our federal budget, and not even considering the heavy budgets allocated to each state here, probably he thinks our states are like the counties in Kenya. You don't have to take them very seriously.
I know
lol I know Nigeria has its issues and I'm willing to admit that but even I won't place the bar that low.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:19pm On May 10, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leathalbeast: 6:21pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:
Mombasa
nice pictures. I just wished atleast 30 of our 54 countries on this continent will be developing like this.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:21pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


I have said here athousand Times no one believes Nigerian figures,

Look at this way
PH has almost 2m ppl while mombasa has 1.2m
Both have 1000 dolla Milionairs dispite the population
Mombasa has way bigger port than PH
Mombasa has way better City, more Highrise than PH
Mombasa is way more multicultured more industrialised than Ph

Nairobi on the other hand has a population of 3.5m while Lagos has over 10m
Nairobi has 6200 dolla millionairs while lagos has 9100 take note of the population and the difference.

Nigerian Central Govt had same Budget as Kenyan Central govt at 22b dollas.

So I do not trust those Nigerian crap

How the Bleep do you conclude that Mombasa has more industries than PH? Do you know that PH is the oil capital of Nigeria?
Or is it because we did not show you the dozens of industries in PH? PH's worth is estimated at nothing less than $20b. Where do you think that comes from?

Kenyan cities may have more millionaires on average, no doubt, it shows that wealth is not evenly spread in Kenyan cities unlike Nigeria that's why Kenya has more slum populations than Nigeria who contribute nothing and make Kenyan cities appear very poor on income per capital levels (poorer than the national average).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:21pm On May 10, 2017
freshest4live:

If you don't mind, can you please give us the list and their budgets, Thank you.

We have 47 counties please make google your friend.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:23pm On May 10, 2017
9jakool:

agree
I think it's also as a result of the religious diversity in the middlebelt.

Yes, most middlebelt muslims are from interreligious families and communities, so they cannot afford the luxuries of religious extremism, unlike Hausa-fulanis who are more secluded and do not share families, communities and even states with christians and traditionalists as such.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:24pm On May 10, 2017
leathalbeast:
nice pictures. I just wished atleast 30 of our 54 countries on this continent will be developing like this.

I believe we will get there most african countries are coming up very well.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:26pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


Nigeria is still one on the most un equal countries in the world in terms of wealth distribution.

Being the biggest port in East and Central Africa Mombasa mombasa has so many industries for both local and export oriented.

Lastly Kenyans are not as extravagant as Nigerians hence the shock when they landed.
Note that JKIA might be the biggest Airport in E.A but the busiest in E.A and Central Africa is Wilson Airport with over 600 take offs per day, it is mostly used by private jets.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://kaa.go.ke/airports/our-airports/wilson-airport/&ved=0ahUKEwjLneLs_uTTAhVKBMAKHdI5DqkQFggmMAE&usg=AFQjCNEDM5W5jAtz9IjXflDykrHpqEhziQ&sig2=d30uFawHq87Hp7kCZPaPOQ

Yes, but Nigeria can never be as unequal as Kenya with wealthy people living in the beautiful CBD side by side with residents of Africa's largest and most terrible slums.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:28pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


So all the infrastructure we have or we are building are for tourism?

If you do not know Kenya has higher HDI than Nigeria.
We have higher literacy rate than Nija.
Nairobi host HQ of more Multinationals than Lagos

Canada has a higher literacy rate and HDI than USA, but it still doesn't make Canada better than USA, does it?

Highly populated countries usually have issues with human indexes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:31pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


Its clear Nigeria Cannot compete with Kenya when it comes to Resorts and Hotels... Apart from Music what can we admire or borrow from Nija?

Economic dominance.
Can you show me any Kenyan business that is affecting Nigeria? I can list many Nigerian business and creations that are affecting Kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:32pm On May 10, 2017
TayserMahiri:



I have to think about this for a while angry
If they can be willing to inhabit kenya somali border shocked
Ok bro ya cruel man... grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:34pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


We have 47 counties please make google your friend.
I know you have 47 counties( which cannot even be compared to Nigerian states), you can compare their 2016 budgets to that of Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:34pm On May 10, 2017
Nowenuse:


Economic dominance.
Can you show me any Kenyan business that is affecting Nigeria? I can list many Nigerian business and creations that are affecting Kenya.

The only thing I know of is Jumia.. please don't mention Eco Bank,it's very small here.

Atleast we export milk powder to you guys.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:38pm On May 10, 2017
Nowenuse:


How the Bleep do you conclude that Mombasa has more industries than PH? Do you know that PH is the oil capital of Nigeria?
Or is it because we did not show you the dozens of industries in PH? PH's worth is estimated at nothing less than $20b. Where do you think that comes from?

Kenyan cities may have more millionaires on average, no doubt, it shows that wealth is not evenly spread in Kenyan cities unlike Nigeria that's why Kenya has more slum populations than Nigeria who contribute nothing and make Kenyan cities appear very poor on income per capital levels (poorer than the national average).

Nigerian Cities look slumish, if it were in Kenya they would be consdered slums.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:40pm On May 10, 2017
Hbuyosh:
"wealth is like poverty"......what do u evn mean by that?

Anyway....

Something doesnt click right in that BD report, ostensibly culled from the WB.


ONE. I cant find the original report from the WB website.

TWO. How comes that, according to this report in the WB, the Kenyan national GDP per capita is stated to be 695$, yet in the WB report, 2015 the Kenyan per capita income is estimated at 1700$? Kenya's GDP clocked $69bn year ending 2014 according to the WB report. (The latest report states the GDP at 75$, fyi). With the national population of say 46mn, as of 2015 there is no way that the per capita GDP cld be only 695$, simple rithmetic. 69bn$/46mln= 1500$.

In any case, Kenya is currently ranked as a midle income country.....u know the WB criteria for ranking countries economic statuses.

THREE. Well, if Nairobi contributes just 12% to the national GDP, not 40 or 60% as hitherto claimed by some estimates, then (69bn$*12/100)= $8.2bn total Nairobi GDP.
Nairobi population is 3.5mn. Now $8,2bn/3.5mn should be equal to around $2400. How did sumbody arrive at that $1065 Nairobi GDP PC figure in the BD report?

Sumbody must have had meth for breakfast before compiling this report.


Are you Kenyans not tired of telling lies?

What is the population of Nairobi metropolitan area? Not Nairobi city alone.
Lagos metropolitan area (Lagos state) has about 21 million people, Lagos city which is part of Lagos state has about 15 million people.
Yes, Nairobi city may have 3.5 million people. what about Nairobi metropolitan area??

In 2009 (8 years ago), Nairobi metro was estimated to have about 6.5 million people. Now, it must have grown to 8-10 million people pls.

You guys should provide an official estimate to show the GDP of Nairobi metro and let us divide it by 8-10 million people!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:42pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


The only thing I know of is Jumia.. please don't mention Eco Bank,it's very small here.

Atleast we export milk powder to you guys.
Jumia was good for Nigeria until they sold it... cry cry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:44pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


The only thing I know of is Jumia.. please don't mention Eco Bank,it's very small here.

Atleast we export milk powder to you guys.

U forgot that Dangote cement importation to your country from Ethiopia is causing serious comotion and frustration among your local marketers ba?

What about Nigerian churches in Kenya that your people worship and their tithes and offerings are directed to Nigerian headquarters?

Nigerian Verve has entered into partnership with your banks and is about to shake your banking sector.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:45pm On May 10, 2017
Nowenuse:




What about Nigerian churches in Kenya that your people worship and their tithes and offerings are directed to Nigerian headquarters?
You had me now you lost me sad
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:49pm On May 10, 2017
Nowenuse:


U forgot that Dangote cement importation to your country from Ethiopia is causing serious comotion and frustration among your local marketers ba?

What about Nigerian churches in Kenya that your people worship and their tithes and offerings are directed to Nigerian headquarters?

Nigerian Verve has entered into partnership with your banks and is about to shake your banking sector.

Please look for something with substance to compare... Tithe!!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:49pm On May 10, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:49pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


We have 47 counties please make google your friend.

47 counties produce only 2.5 cities.

I have seen so much on this thread that I dont even know who to quote. A Ghanaian claimed Accra is the commercial hub in west Africa.

Kenyan claim Mombasa have more high rise and that makes it better than port Harcout.

Are you guys so dumb?

The oil money from Portharcourt is more than enough to cover everything thing you get from Nairobi not to talk of Mombasa. In terms of industries please just don't mention cause Nairobi can't even boast major industries not to talk of Mombasa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:50pm On May 10, 2017
mtis:

Jumia was good for Nigeria until they sold it... cry cry

I dnt know they sold it So they have nothing in Kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:50pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


Nigerian Cities look slumish, if it were in Kenya they would be consdered slums.

Yes, the lowest income areas of Nigerian cities look slumish, but yet they are still not slums!

These pics below are pics of Festac town (outside Lagos city), but in Lagos state.
See what the average and lowest areas there look like.
I have dared Kenyans here to show me what the average, low and lowest income areas of Nairobi look like (aside the slums), but none of you guys can!

It's not about posting beautiful pics of hotels and resorts in Nairobi and Mombasa which majority of the residents cannot afford and continue to languish in slums.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 6:52pm On May 10, 2017
Jay254:


We have 47 counties please make google your friend.

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