Icon4s:


That is it. Watch closely. And if he is willing to pledge allegiance to Nigeria we give him the opportunity if the need arises.

you're right
but the NFF should approach him through their representative if they even have one....
they should make him feel loved and let him know his progress is being followed back home and hope it won't turn us down when we come calling....

that's it...rohr can't do everything...
that's why I am expecting pinnick to use his influence to talk to some of the players....his problem even self is that he talks too much..almost all of them fathers are his friends...and they all grew up together bla bla bla....
should he visit any of them now...he will not let us rest even the English press will get to know...

Joebie:
your argument is appalling. Developing our youth system is totally another matter.
Every Nigerian born at home or abroad is a Nigerian. And we would need all Nigerians to improve be it in sports or otherwise. Hence we must always go for our best. Should we have a Nigerian player who goes abroad and becomes the best in another country, are you saying that country will never offer him their passport or ask him to represent them? Your argument is very misplaced especially in the current world we live in. People who have anything against foreign born Nigerians are delusional. I don't see how this stops you from developing your own. unbelievable.

I believe what Sir Icon4 is strictly against is the invitation of every dick and harry all because they're foreign born....
any player that should be invited should merit it....though our national team handlers often does not see the future..so myopic
but still effort should be made to spot talents amongst these foreign groomed Nigerians

good but we can't afford to lose our very best to other nations. the fact is Rohr will not be our coach 8 years from now. It's not all about Rohr.
The NFF have been playing a part in this as well. We cannot wait for white man to plan our future for us.

Icon4s:


Rohr will invite any Nigerian that will add value whether Foreign born or Nigerian born.

And i've stressed it over again that i'm talking about our best players regardless of where they are born. Which is why we cannot only afford to settle for players that England for example wont have even considered in their main team, just because we were not proactive enough to spot their special talent early.

Humility017:


I believe what Sir Icon4 is strictly against is the invitation of every dick and harry all because they're foreign born....
any player that should be invited should merit it....though our national team handlers often does not see the future..so myopic
but still effort should be made to spot talents amongst these foreign groomed Nigerians

Joebie:
good but we can't afford to lose our very best to other nations. the fact is Rohr will not be our coach 8 years from now. It's not all about Rohr.
The NFF have been playing a part in this as well. We cannot wait for white man to plan our future for us.

Your last sentence: but you wait for the white man to groom those players and then you want to harvest the best of them to your country.

This is the first UCL season that I have seen that even with a 4-0 first leg win you may still crash out.

ATL 2:0 RMA (2:3) in less than 15mins!

hahahahaha.. unbelievable..

I'm sorry the white man grooming some of our Nigerian players does not stop us from developing our own youth system. At the same time, just because the white man groomed some of those players does not mean you should pitch your home grown players against his. What is seemingly his could be ours, else FIFA wont make that provision which have benefited many countries. Please don't even start an argument that is already dead.

Icon4s:

Your last sentence: but you wait for the white man to groom those players and then you want to harvest the best of them to your country.

Joebie:
And i've stressed it over again that i'm talking about our best players regardless of where they are born. Which is why we cannot only afford to settle for players that England for example wont have even considered in their main team, just because we were not proactive enough to spot their special talent early.

you're right...
that's why I will only support an ambitious indigenous coach...the reason why we're seeing this invitation for the SE games now is because rohr is an ambitious coach....and not as corrupt as some elements we all know.

as long as some of Nigeria football officials keep getting some cuts from players signings (export from the domestic scene to Europe) lots of good foreign lads will always be ignored...because they won't want to grease the palms of these corrupt folks in like manner

Thank you.

We need to improve football in the grassroots and our domestic league. But we also need to make provision for special talents groomed abroad.
Winning them over is a win for us. If i'm getting Icon4s clearly, he is saying these special players in question need to first show the interest. Oga i no agree for that one oh. One thing I will never subscribe to is that there is only one way you should catch a fish in the midst of many ways. The idea of patriotism here is not realistic since many of these lads have never even visited Nigeria. Let's be realistic, we will need to do some convincing in some cases.

Humility017:

you're right...
that's why I will only support an ambitious indigenous coach...the reason why we're seeing this invitation for the SE games now is because rohr is an ambitious coach....and not as corrupt as some elements we all know.

as long as some of Nigeria football officials keep getting some cuts from players signings (export from the domestic scene to Europe) lots of good foreign lads will always be ignored...because they won't want to grease the palms of these corrupt folks in like manner

Icon4s:
This is the first UCL season that I have seen that even with a 4-0 first leg win you may still crash out.

ATL 2:0 RMA (2:3) in less than 15mins!

Ac Milan - Deportivo 2004

Joebie:
Thank you.

We need to improve football in the grassroots and our domestic league. But we also need to make provision for special talents groomed abroad.
Winning them over is a win for us. If i'm getting Icon4s clearly, he is saying these special players in question need to first show the interest. Oga i no agree for that one oh. One thing I will never subscribe to is that there is only one way you should catch a fish in the midst of many ways. The idea of patriotism here is not realistic since many of these lads have never even visited Nigeria. Let's be realistic, we will need to do some convincing in some cases.

What if you approach them and they are still not interested? That is what I am talking about.

Look at Gabby Agbonlahon, Nedum Onuoha, Sydney Sam, Patrick Owomoyela, Ugochukwu Ehiogu, . If they chose their country of birth what do we do? Continue to cry?

tbaba1234:

Ac Milan - Deportivo 2004

At what stage and what was the score?

Icon4s:


At what stage and what was the score?

Knockout stage..

first leg
Ac milan 4 Depor 1

Second leg

Depor 4 Ac milan 0

I remember Veleron was unplayable in the second leg..

No! we don't cry. We simply move on. Do you personally have a big ego? Rejection is a part of life.
Some of these players never had their Nigerian parent in their lives while growing up. Some of them will never feel Nigerian unless you give them a course to. Showing interest in them is a first step. They may take interest and start to look at Nigeria's football history, that's if their parents never played an active role in this regard while they were growing up. Welcoming them to the SE family is another. We have to treat situations differently. We can't always apply a general rule. So do you just dock just because you are scared of rejection, and miss a chance to land a player that would have represented Nigeria?

Sir, following your rule, we will not have the likes of Ola Aina in our fold now. I can still mention some others that were courted before they agreed.

Icon4s:


What if you approach them and they are still not interested? That is what I am talking about.

Look at Gabby Agbonlahon, Nedum Onuoha, Sydney Sam, Patrick Owomoyela, Ugochukwu Ehiogu, . If they chose their country of birth what do we do? Continue to cry?

Joebie:
No! we don't cry. We simply move on. Do you personally have a big ego? Rejection is a part of life.
Some of these players never had their Nigerian parent in their lives while growing up. Some of them will never feel Nigerian unless you give them a course to. Showing interest in them is a first step. They may take interest and start to look at Nigeria's football history, that's if their parents never played an active role in this regard while they were growing up. Welcoming them to the SE family is another. We have to treat situations differently. We can't always apply a general rule. So do you just dock just because you are scared of rejection, and miss a chance to land a player that would have represented Nigeria?

Sir, following your rule, we will not have the likes of Ola Aina in our fold now. I can still mention some others that were courted before they agreed.

Yes some of us here are still crying over Alaba. They are still yet to move on.

Joebie:
hahaha. Need I say it again, The NPFL is a big joke!!!

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by Sammy Wejinya 10 May 2017, 19:38

Enugu Rangers and Gombe United played out a thrilling 3-3 draw in a rescheduled Nigeria Professional Football League (NPFL) game on Wednesday.

Obinna Nwobodo took the game by the scruff of the neck with a virtuoso display capped by two goals either side of the break but the hosts battled back gamely to claim a share of the spoils at the Pantami Stadium, Gombe.

Nwobodo’s first goal on 12 minutes was largely down to great work by Osas Okoro who showed great skill and composure before squaring for the midfielder to tap home from close range.

His second in the 58th minute was down to sheer individual brilliance as the Flying Antelopes dared to dream, licking their lips in anticipation over the prospect of amassing maximum points away from home.

Those hopes disappeared in a flash as two goals in a space of 180 seconds dramatically turned the game on its head.

Austine Oladapo got the fightback underway with a goal from close range and he completed his brace soon after from the penalty spot after the referee adjudged that a Rangers player had handled the ball in the box.

The hosts thought they had got the final say deep into stoppage time as Ibrahim Abdullahi struck in the second minute of stoppage time to temporarily give the hosts a 3-2 advantage.

Manic celebrations by the home fans proved premature in the end as Osas Okoro struck with literally the last kick of the game to give his side a share of the spoils.

Rangers stay in 16th place on the NPFL standings with 23 points from 19 points while Gombe United climbed one place on the log to 17th, leapfrogging 3SC who now drop to 18th.

Gombe United have now amassed 23 points from 19 matches this season.

https://www.supersport.com/football/nigeria/news/170510/Rangers_fight_back_to_hold_Gombe

what's the joke about? Sounds like a nice game to me, the away team scored with the last kick of the ball and no one got hurt.

Joebie:
No! we don't cry. We simply move on. Do you personally have a big ego? Rejection is a part of life.
Some of these players never had their Nigerian parent in their lives while growing up. Some of them will never feel Nigerian unless you give them a course to. Showing interest in them is a first step. They may take interest and start to look at Nigeria's football history, that's if their parents never played an active role in this regard while they were growing up. Welcoming them to the SE family is another. We have to treat situations differently. We can't always apply a general rule. So do you just dock just because you are scared of rejection, and miss a chance to land a player that would have represented Nigeria?

Sir, following your rule, we will not have the likes of Ola Aina in our fold now. I can still mention some others that were courted before they agreed.

Please we only need players who will be committed and patriotic.
Any player who doesn't chose Nigeria just let him be.

Beg them to play and we'll continue to beg them to play.

And please keep the discussion civil if you want me to continue in this discussion.

haha.... if we are all scared of getting hurt and our security outfit is not ready to take up the real challenge then we will keep getting scorelines like this influenced by the home team. Let me see what led to those Gombe goals before I laugh again.

BascoVanVeli:


what's the joke about? Sounds like a nice game to me, the away team scored with the last kick of the ball and no one got hurt.

Goaaal Alexis.

Sir,

firstly you are saying they show interest first before we invite them. I faulted you on that because it's not realistic in some cases.

secondly, you don't beg if you have the right systems for approaching.

thirdly, even in the face of rejection you don't keep "begging".

Fourthly, I was just making a point that rejection is a part of life. Else we will not apply for school, toast a girl etc etc.. if that ego statement offends you, sorry o.. but we dont want people like you turning away the likes of Alaba because of home grown talent rule hahaha.. Look at us now.. still searching for a reliable left back. Reality has set in.

MODIFIED
let me add. Patriotism cannot come in if someone doesn't feel Nigerian. So you have ruled those in that category out. Very unfair since you didn't give them a chance. Commitment cannot be determined at the beginning. Sometimes these things come with maturity in the game. Oga you will rule out many abroad born players PREMATURELY oh. I pray you never make it to NFF. and not be swear, it's just that you seem like that kind that will repeat those things we have been frowning at.

Icon4s:


Please we only need players who will be committed and patriotic.
Any player who doesn't chose Nigeria just let him be.

Beg them to play and we'll continue to beg them to play.

And please keep the discussion civil if you want me to continue in this discussion.

tbaba1234:

Knockout stage..
first leg Ac milan 4 Depor 1
Second leg
Depor 4 Ac milan 0
I remember Veleron was unplayable in the second leg..

I remember vividly I think that year Monaco and FC Porto played the final

Joebie:
Thank you.

We need to improve football in the grassroots and our domestic league. But we also need to make provision for special talents groomed abroad.
Winning them over is a win for us. If i'm getting Icon4s clearly, he is saying these special players in question need to first show the interest. Oga i no agree for that one oh. One thing I will never subscribe to is that there is only one way you should catch a fish in the midst of many ways. The idea of patriotism here is not realistic since many of these lads have never even visited Nigeria. Let's be realistic, we will need to do some convincing in some cases.

you're absolutely right... we will need to do some convincing
just that Nigeria is a very proud nation...
it baffles me when we refuse go after these foreign lads on the prism of patriotism....
even the leaders who are being paid juicy salaries and allowances and still bent on milking the nations treasury is not as patriotic as these young lads....

take it or leave it....some of the homegrown talents could have done worse should they've the opportunity like these foreign groom guys

they should be convinced of a great future should they team wit the SE...for example as men we woo after our wives or the women in lives at one point that does not mean we beg them to stay or marry us....

even England in the very last minute still refused to give up on iwobi amidst his decision to play for Nigeria and still keep sending him emails....

IN fact I'm out of words! You are simply brilliant from this write up, I can't even add to it.

Humility017:

you're absolutely right... we will need to do some convincing
just that Nigeria is a very proud nation...
it baffles me when we refuse go after these foreign lads on the prism of patriotism....
even the leaders who are being paid juicy salaries and allowances and still bent on milking the nations treasury is not as patriotic as these young lads....

take it or leave it....some of the homegrown talents could have done worse should they've the opportunity like these foreign groom guys

they should be convinced of a great future should they team wit the SE...for example as men we woo after our wives or the women in lives at one point that does not mean we beg them to stay or marry us....

even England in the very last minute still refused to give up on iwobi amidst his decision to play for Nigeria and still keep sending him emails....

Joebie:
haha.... if we are all scared of getting hurt and our security outfit is not ready to take up the real challenge then we will keep getting scorelines like this influenced by the home team. Let me see what led to those Gombe goals before I laugh again.

I didn't read any of that.

ok

BascoVanVeli:


I didn't read any of that.

tbaba1234:


Knockout stage..

first leg
Ac milan 4 Depor 1

Second leg

Depor 4 Ac milan 0

I remember Veleron was unplayable in the second leg..

what about ac millian vs Liverpool final match

Christantus under 17

tbaba1234:
Christantus under 17

This was when he was supposed to have been playing in the Super Eagles.

Icon4s:


This was when he was supposed to have been playing in the Super Eagles.

Christantus is just 26 o!!... He should be hitting his peak now..

BascoVanVeli:


I didn't read any of that.

u didn't read any of that or u just decided to turn a blind eye to it. Go to tweeter and visit Rangers official page u will see Wat we are talking about.

Oluwa o seun to dami si doni. today x my birthday

Icon4s:


What if you approach them and they are still not interested? That is what I am talking about.

Look at Gabby Agbonlahon, Nedum Onuoha, Sydney Sam, Patrick Owomoyela, Ugochukwu Ehiogu, . If they chose their country of birth what do we do? Continue to cry?

sir...you said "what if"
let's approach them first....than not do at all
it's just we're just too proud in this country
I read somewhere of Berkeley naming Nigeria as one of the possible nations we could play for at the full international level...
the young man even had Nigeria in mind but none of our officials ever know of him as a Nigerian let alone approach him

let me say this...it is normal for these lads to dilly dally in accepting to play for Nigeria reason because of fear of uncertainties
some of them have never been to Africa... they know nothing about Africa football etc

moreover Nigeria is a big force to reckon wit in football... they know this
so let's approach them first

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