tintingz:
Who's misleading me to my foolishness Mr deluded sheeple.?

Anyways, my nonsensical question is actually helping some people here. Kindly swerve .

Rilwayne001:


You can always make your point without adding insult, or rather keep shut if you know you can't.

Just my 2kobo.

Rilwayne001:


You can always make your point without adding insult, or rather keep shut if you know you can't.

Just my 2kobo.

AbdelKabir:


Just as I thought....the sheep coming to bleet because of its master....

FriendNG:


It can only help non academic students.

tintingz:
Don't mind mr perfect, Shaitan has enter his mouth making him to spit out insults.

He should do auzubillahi - 100,000x

sarahade:

don't mind that ITK jare misleading people since 19gbogboro.
I'm listening to you o jare

FriendNG:


Do you know if Firaun has asked Allah forgiveness from Shirk at the Right time he would have forgive him ?

Allah forgive shirk.

Rilwayne001:


A sheeple calling me sheep

What else can you do better?

Empiree:
Pls dont get it twisted. When we say Allah dont forgive shirk, it mean once a person dies, it is over. But other sins like adultery, theft etc, the belief of muslims is if a muslim dies without seeking forgiveness, possibility exists he/she may be punished. And also Allah is Merciful enough to erase and forgive this but not shirk. Shirk is only forgivable while you still breading and you leave it. Am i right?


^^ this is what last ayat of Khaf is talking about. Those who do good or think they doing good but la ilaha ila Allah is not found in their luggage, their deeds are worthless and lost.

tintingz:
I believe everything I'm doing is by my freewill or else I won't be asking this question someone is already calling "nonsense and foolish one". I guess All knows I'm the foolish one, who's responsible for my foolishness?.

FriendNG:



OK. It is better you made your position known. Some people don't know this.

FriendNG:


Satan is more in your mouth with the kind of words and insult u give to the Quran and it author in earlier thread comparing it with other Gods.

tintingz:
If Satan is in my mouth, at least I'm not insulting any of the Gods including Allah, how does asking questions equate to insults?

But your uncle the mr perfect, the imam of nairaland, insulted me, he should do auzubillah because Satan might have entered his mouth when he yawned.

tintingz:
Salaam alaikum,

- I would like to know if Allah(SWT) knows our ends, those that will end up in paradise or hell? Since he's the all-knowing.

- Like Quran say "Allah misleads whom he will and guides whom he will", if he's responsible for those that have gone astray then why are they damn to hell?

AlBaqir:


# Really this short statement abound in the Quran. If taken in isolation, you will miss the road. It usually appear in a context. We can get the true meaning of it by taking into account what enveloped it (its context)

For example:

Sura al-Baqarah: 213

"(All) people are a single nation; so Allah raised prophets as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path."

Allamah Hussein Tabatabai in his Tafsir al-Mizan comments:

Qur'an: whereupon Allah guided, by His will, those who believed to the truth about which they differed. And Allah guides whom He pleases to the straight path:

the truth about which they differed explains the subjects of the differences and that it was the truth with which the book was sent down ("the book with the truth".

At this juncture, Allah guided the believers to the truth in both differences: differences in affairs of this life, and differences in the matters of religion. The guidance of the believers was by His will,because they could not make it binding upon Allah to guide them, for the simple reason that there is none to impose upon Him. It is only He Himself who takes upon Himself whatever He pleases. Therefore, the guidance was by His will; if He were not pleased, He would not have willed and would not have guided.

Accordingly, the sentence, And Allah guides whom He pleases to the straight path gives the reason of "by His will." He guided them because it is His discretion to guide whom He pleases, nobody can impose upon Him to guide this or to guide that. And He surely willed to guide the believers to the straight path.
http://www.almizan.org/tafsir/112-1-4/

# Another ayah reads:

"Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable-- (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say: What is it that Allah means by this parable: He causes many to err by it and many He leads aright by it! but He does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors" {al-Baqarah:26}

Note: Before Allah wills something, He already pleases with it. Hence Quran says:

# "...Allah pleases with those who fear Him"

# "...Allah pleases with those who return to Him (in forgiveness)"

# "...Allah pleases with those who are righteous"

# "...Allah pleases with those who are patience"

# "...Allah pleases with those who purify themselves"

These "people" whom Allah has pleased with earn His guidance automatically by His wills.

# On the other hand, we have ayah which says Allah displeases "...transgressors, oppressors, etc".

AS PER JABR (PREDESTINATION)

A sect was established within the Ahlu sunnah ta'aifah who believed everything has been predestined. And man has no say. Whatever he does, is out of his control. This group were called Jabriyyah. Hasan al-Basri (d. 110 H) belong to this school.

Their opponents yet within Ahlu sunnah were the Qadariyyah. Personalities like Ma'bad al-Juhani (d. 80 H), Ghaylan ibn Muslim al-Dimashqi (d. 105 H) were leading figures. They believed everything man does is out of his freewill. Allah has no part in it.

To the Imami Shia, we firmly believe it is a case between these two extreme. There are somethings we have been given control over (with our choice in freewill and intellect). And there are somethings clearly out of our control.

Issue of hell and paradise as regards bad deeds and good deeds is set up by man himself. Allah helps along the way (with His guidance, encouragement, threatening, trials, etc).

We do not believe hell fire or paradise has been destined for man before he is even created. Indeed Allah knows where each one of us will end up but that is not our concern. In fact such knowledge is only His but that does not mean He caused it (forcibly).

# Qada (measure) and Qadar (destiny) are vast oceans that only drop is given to us to understand.

FriendNG:



At least it is better you insult a man rather then God himself. Don't allow me to dig your post in cousin marriage thread and post them here. Calling Quran tales. Denying the supremacy of Allah against all other gods.

tintingz:
Look at this man, didn't you insult other people's Gods and beliefs e.g Olorun? Do you think you're justifiable and right for that?

You can't take insults yet you insulted other people's Gods. What an irrational thinking.

Empiree:
Well, there is Qadr too remember. And Qadr divided into 2 parts basically. One part is "changeable" through dua or if Allah will while the other part is not. You may turn out to be real Islamic scholar and then, look back at some of your comments and make istigfar.

tintingz:


It is confusing and somehow contradicting as some verse said Satan mislead people, while another verse said we're responsible for our actions.

Any answers from reasonable Muslims?

FriendNG:



Mr. Rational thinker. Did you mock Allah or not in that thread?

FriendNG:


Kabir is uncountable times better than you. If you don't know let me tell you today: You're worst than Shi'a followers.

But I hope God guide you.

tintingz:
No, I didn't.

Did you mock Olorun or not?

tintingz:
If Satan is in my mouth, at least I'm not insulting any of the Gods including Allah, how does asking questions equate to insults?

But your uncle the mr perfect, the imam of nairaland, insulted me, he should do auzubillah because Satan might have entered his mouth when he yawned.

FriendNG:



If I am chatting with a worshipper of Olorun I will answer you. But u claim to be worshipper of Allah.

But since you still have no shame in lying, pls help me with the link to that thread if dem born u well.

tintingz:
What happen worshipping Olorun, is Olorun not God?

Is your Google not working?

FriendNG:





Demmzy15 help me with incest cousin marriage thread link. Or if you can remember the title.

You will know whether he is God or not when I started migrating those blasphemies here.

tintingz:

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tintingz:


Same as other Gods.


If I open a thread are you ready prove that Zeus, Odin, Obatala, Amadioha are not real?

FriendNG:


No sign is equal to Allah's signs.

tintingz:
You're really a funny guy.

Every Gods in each thousands of beliefs have their own signs.

Obatala according to Yoruba mythology, he's the sky father and the creator of mankind and the earth.

Odin according to Germanic mythology he's the God of healing, death, knowledge etc.

Zeus is the sky king according Greek religion, Prometheus is the creator of mankind.

You will have to prove these Gods are not real.

Where am I blaspheming?

FriendNG:



You claim other signs are equal to Allah don't you?

tintingz:
I'm not understanding.

I just mentioned some Gods attributes which sign are you talking about again?