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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NairaBaba: 6:13pm On May 15, 2017
Dear house,

Please advise on conduit split AC pipe installation against usual surface installation. I have a project going on and I am considering conduit split AC pipe installation.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 7:22pm On May 15, 2017
NairaBaba:
Dear house,

Please advise on conduit split AC pipe installation against usual surface installation. I have a project going on and I am considering conduit split AC pipe installation.

Conduit split AC is better than surface. The refrigerant and the condensate must be done before plastering.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NairaBaba: 8:10pm On May 15, 2017
topsy23:


Conduit split AC is better than surface. The refrigerant and the condensate must be done before plastering.

Aesthetically conduit is pretty better. An area of concern is how repair will be carried out if there is refrigerant leak in the conduit copper pipe
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by noble71(m): 9:29pm On May 15, 2017
Good evening my people Abeg what is the current price of 8mm, 12mm, 16mm and one roll of binding wire. Pls help me.
Spyder880
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 10:48pm On May 15, 2017
NairaBaba:


Aesthetically conduit is pretty better. An area of concern is how repair will be carried out if there is refrigerant leak in the conduit copper pipe

Easy to maintain since the refrigerant pipes is going to be sleeved I.e putting the armaflex and refrigerant pipes inside a 50mm or 75mm Upvc pipe. With this it can be easily pull out if there is any leakage or leakages. Beside it very hard to see refrigerant pipes leaking except the installed did not use correct copper pipes.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 5:56am On May 16, 2017
topsy23:
The man in question should focus on quality job so far the guy that will handle the plaster job is a professional. I have been to so many sites that I have to tell the clients to allow the contractor to finish the job or we start from the beginning. I have met so many clients that want to pay little amount for a complete electrical installation for 6bedrrom flat in which I decline cos there is no way I can cope with it couple with the cost of transportation and daily feeding for my workers. He later called me for the corrections of shoddy job done. He later paid more to get what he want. Quality matter most

My observations in this discussion is simple.
There must be a standard.
Irrespective of quality of job promised or done, there must be a standard. There must be a range of fees to be charged from the very cheap to the normal rates to the very expensive ones. Although there may be outliers, the price range can and should serve as a guide. Fees cannot and shouldn't just be left at the mercy of the worker. So what is the standard of plastering interior wall? Or exterior wall ground floor, exterior wall upper floors etc? There is and should be an amount per surface area that could be used as reference or pivot for negotiation instead of the arbitrariness I noticed here. Imagine how it feels if we say there is no reference cost for moulding of 9 inches blocks for instance.
Even workmanship fixing of tiles on the floor gets billed per square metre etc..
Now imagine, what we are indirectly implying from the present discussion is that we may not even hold government accountable if they claim they are trying to build a block of classrooms for example. How would we know they inflated the price if there is no reference range for plastering for instance? .
I am a novice in this business, Pls anyone with professional experience may guide us.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:09am On May 16, 2017
noble71:
Good evening my people Abeg what is the current price of 8mm, 12mm, 16mm and one roll of binding wire. Pls help me.
Spyder880

Enugu prices
8mm N1,000
12mm N1,800
16 mm N3,200

Onitsha prices
8mm N1050
12mm N1750
16mm N3100

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 6:18am On May 16, 2017
My dear great people in the house. I asked a question about parapet almost a month ago but did not get responses to it. Please help, I will repost the question below.
******

Hello house. I'm just wondering what the differences are between a curved parapet and the flat one. I would like to know these in terms of ease of construction, workmanship, materials, strength, durability and aesthetics.
I got two pix for each. One was from a thread here on nairaland.
Thank you.


https://www.nairaland.com/1111260/parapet-roofing-support-building-ebonyi/5


@ Spyder880
rotecch77
mufutau55

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by noble71(m): 6:19am On May 16, 2017
spyder880:

Enugu prices 8mm N1,000 12mm N1,800 16 mm N3,200
Onitsha prices 8mm N1050 12mm N1750 16mm N3100
Tanks Sir. God bless you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:41am On May 16, 2017
alstacs:
My dear great people in the house. I asked a question about parapet almost a month ago but did not get responses to it. Please help, I will repost the question below.
******

Hello house. I'm just wondering what the differences are between a curved parapet and the flat one. I would like to know these in terms of ease of construction, workmanship, materials, strength, durability and aesthetics.
I got two pix for each. One was from a thread here on nairaland.
Thank you.


https://www.nairaland.com/1111260/parapet-roofing-support-building-ebonyi/5


@ Spyder880
rotecch77
mufutau55

Its only a matter of choice, the two designs has almost same method of construction except that plywood is used to bring out the curves while straight wood is used to bring out the extended flap design, or even the stepped design.

As long as they are all concrete cast, cost cannot vary much, but it tends to get costlier depending on the size of projection it has from the wall. The longer it extends from the wall, the costlier it becomes.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 7:07am On May 16, 2017
spyder880:


Its only a matter of choice, the two designs has almost same method of construction except that plywood is used to bring out the curves while straight wood is used to bring out the extended flap design, or even the stepped design.

As long as they are all concrete cast, cost cannot vary much, but it tends to get costlier depending on the size of projection it has from the wall. The longer it extends from the wall, the costlier it becomes.

Thank you very much, my Oga at the top

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 8:00am On May 16, 2017
Chairman Spider has said it all, the only area i see again is the cost of plywood and time to construct the formwork is a bit more costly and take more time to do than that of flat design,furthermore it take much time and a little difficult for mason to plaster the curve design.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 8:13am On May 16, 2017
rotecch77:
Chairman Spider as said it all, the only area i see again is the cost of plywood and time to construct the formwork is a bit more costly and take more time to do than that of flat design,furthermore it take much time and a little difficult for mason to plaster the curve design.

I am grateful, boss
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adewaleID: 8:14am On May 16, 2017
Hey my people, I noticed we do not have any recommended carpenter for roofing on NL. shocked
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chidexy(m): 9:56am On May 16, 2017
Good morning Folks,

Can someone help me out with information on the current cost of a bag of white Cement (Gypsum) and a kg of Fibre (wool sponge used in POP ceiling making) around the South East?

Also, how many bags of the white cement and kg of wool would be required (just a guesstimate) to cover an area of 120 sq meters

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NairaBaba: 10:00am On May 16, 2017
topsy23:


Easy to maintain since the refrigerant pipes is going to be sleeved I.e putting the armaflex and refrigerant pipes inside a 50mm or 75mm Upvc pipe. With this it can be easily pull out if there is any leakage or leakages. Beside it very hard to see refrigerant pipes leaking except the installed did not use correct copper pipes.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by set2build: 11:36am On May 16, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by heartlove(m): 3:24pm On May 16, 2017
pls Oga do u know the price of sharp sand at Imota Area of Ikorodu, any contact number

set2build:
View current prices of building materials updated daily

visit www.set2build.com/market-prices
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 4:06pm On May 16, 2017
heartlove:
pls Oga do u know the price of sharp sand at Imota Area of Ikorodu, any contact number


Call this number 0803 230 4983, his name is Busayo. He is also a builder and reside in Ikorodu
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by heartlove(m): 4:18pm On May 16, 2017
ok thanks Sir

topsy23:


Call this number 0803 230 4983, his name is Busayo. He is also a builder and reside in Ikorodu
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:09pm On May 16, 2017
heartlove:
ok thanks Sir

still on your house stuff. U tried contacting me, and I have replied your mail.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:36pm On May 16, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:35pm On May 16, 2017
rotecch77:
Chairman Spider has said it all, the only area i see again is the cost of plywood and time to construct the formwork is a bit more costly and take more time to do than that of flat design,furthermore it take much time and a little difficult for mason to plaster the curve design.
. I do not think construction cum engineering projects were meant to be outright simple jobs. It's all about thinking, ideas and innovations.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:50am On May 17, 2017
adewaleID:
Hey my people, I noticed we do not have any recommended carpenter for roofing on NL. shocked

What about PrinceJones? He has been doing good job and nobody ever come here to complain about him.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChijiokeBen: 7:57am On May 17, 2017
I am planning on a project of fencing a plot of land at Anambra State. After which I will be putting In place an design for 2 bedroom and living room flat of four unit to one decking and roofing.
I have little ideals about building and construction.

At first I am planning on this August to start up with the fencing. So I made some estimates
8 Trip of sand @ 10000-80000
2 trip of fine sand @ 10000- 20000
5 trip of stones @20000-100000
10 bag of cement@3100- 310000
Iron rod@ - 250000
Workers or labour fee @- 150000
Miscellaneous @ 50000

This is what I have prepared so far, if any one could help me out here, I will appreciate.

I will also like to know for a trip of sand and bags of cement, how many blocks it can produce ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by heartlove(m): 8:06am On May 17, 2017
yes my Oga at top oooo, u know as you Oga in the house always helping we ppl like me out here God almighty God will help you all out, u r all helping us out in the hands of contractors

CokersClub:
still on your house stuff. U tried contacting me, and I have replied your mail.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:20am On May 17, 2017
heartlove:

yes my Oga at top oooo, u know as you Oga in the house always helping we ppl like me out here God almighty God will help you all out, u r all helping us out in the hands of contractors

Amen. So what's the issue you are having now?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ulu45: 8:47am On May 17, 2017
my people....If u get a geotech investigation report stating that d soil bearing capacity of d soil is very low (up to a depth of 10m), wat would u use for founding ur structure ? Any and every contribution is welcomed.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by snakebeat: 1:43pm On May 17, 2017
Ulu45:
my people....If u get a geotech investigation report stating that d soil bearing capacity of d soil is very low (up to a depth of 10m), wat would u use for founding ur structure ? Any and every contribution is welcomed.
Hmmm...this will require pile foundation...what type of building are u proposing?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 1:46pm On May 17, 2017
ChijiokeBen:
I am planning on a project of fencing a plot of land at Anambra State. After which I will be putting In place an design for 2 bedroom and living room flat of four unit to one decking and roofing.
I have little ideals about building and construction.

At first I am planning on this August to start up with the fencing. So I made some estimates
8 Trip of sand @ 10000-80000
2 trip of fine sand @ 10000- 20000
5 trip of stones @20000-100000
10 bag of cement@3100- 310000
Iron rod@ - 250000
Workers or labour fee @- 150000
Miscellaneous @ 50000

This is what I have prepared so far, if any one could help me out here, I will appreciate.

I will also like to know for a trip of sand and bags of cement, how many blocks it can produce ?

Someone posted the below on this thread, for fencing, wayback. Cant remember who it was.

COST OF BUILDING A FENCE
For 1 full plot of land.
All Professional QS and Construction Management Engineers like myself do it like this to calculate the total number of blocks we will use which will serve as #1 basis for other materials, and calculations.

1. Calculate the number of square feet in the fence walls. Multiply the length times the height of each wall. Then add up the results. For example, for a 60-by-120-foot fence, with walls 10 feet high, you have two walls that are 60-by-10 feet and two walls that are 120-by-10 feet. This gives you a total of 3600 square feet.

2. Now, we should consider the gates or entrance that will be left out and which are usually 16ft wide, and 10ft high, giving us a total of 160sq ft. Minus 160sq ft from 3600sq ft, giving us a net wall area of 3440 sq ft.

3. Find out how many 6 or 9 inches blocks fit into a sq ft by the net wall area. Both are about the same lenght, but just differ in thickness, and a sq ft will take 0.85 block. Meaning that a sq ft will take about a whole block. Now, multiply 0.85 x 3600, that gives us = 3,060 pieces of blocks.

PS: This just for blocks to be laid on casted rafted frame work for our fence if the land is dry.

B.

In Lay Man's Language, we will need"

1. 3060 pcs of 6x6 blocks (plus 5% which is an extra 153 extra block, because you will have broken ones) = 3213 pcs x 130 Naira = #417,690.

2. For a simple fence work, 100 blocks = 1 bag of cement x 32.13 plus, extra bags used for foundational work and concrete works that serves as reinforcement = 52 bags of cement x #1800 (depending on cement quality and location) = #93,600

3. For Iron rod I've always calculated 70 leghts for every fence.
Calcultion is far more complex, so wont go into it, therefore 70 lenght of 12mm rod = 70x1300 = #51,000 (plus binding wires and rings) = #55,000

4. Hey, lets not forget the woods that would be used for the framework, we need that too. Meaning, for every single pillars in the wall, you need 4 pcs of 2x4, and 4 pcs of 1x12, my detailed estimation, puts woods within #15,000

5. Sand (4 trucks 10 tonnes each), granite (1 truck 20 tonnes). Prices varies, but one truck of granite is #100,000 firm down here, and 4 trucks of sand makes #80,000 making it a complete total of #180,000

6. Finally, the gate which varies a lot. We have plain sheets, which wont last more than 10 years if superbly coated. And checkered plates which will last longer than your house if well coated. For some uninformed reasons, 90% of homes ive seen use plain sheet, and a gate of such value cost from #70,000 upwards, depending on the wrought iron designs on it. The best gate is checkered gate, and the cheapest with less design goes for around #150,000

7. Now, add up the cost of transporting the materials to the building site. If its close to where building materials are, I am guessing #15,000 most. If not, God help you.

Ofcourse, you will have noticed that the pricing of items like Cement has changed significantly, so you need to use the current prices in the above sample, but all the "logic" is still the same and still applicable.
Dont also forget that depending on the type of soil (Swampy Vs. Strong Clay), there may be little variations but like @Mario will say about the difference, if any, "It should not be an Earth shattering Experience"!

NB: I guess the 'fine sand' is for plastering, after completion of the fence?
If that is true, l will suggest you dont plaster fence for now, direct such money into starting your building (Use it to lay Blocks, if nothing else).

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