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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:21am On May 21, 2017
Nihilist:


I cba to do a full breakdown but Fab has assisted Costa 4 times in the league this season, Matic 3.

And 6 of Costa's goals are from set piece.

I'm sure at least 2 of those set piece goals are from Matic flickons. Maybe in the morning I'll go and review the tapes on YouTube

Do an analysis and tell how many of those goals came directly from Fabregas set piece to COsta and goal

For many games Fabregas and Willian were not even on the field this season, SO who was taking set pieces
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:21am On May 21, 2017
Greatihex:
did iniesta post neymar numbers to make the podium?

Iniesta won UCL and World Cup. He is lucky as far as I am concerned. Hazard should either get lucky or starting posting numbers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:22am On May 21, 2017
We know those we shouldn't and can't compare Hazard to in World footie right now.


They are just 2, just 2...there is absolutely nothing special about the rest attackers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:23am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Hazard scored beautiful point-winning goals against ALL the big teams this season, Arsenal, Spurs, Man city, Man utd, Liverpool, Everton.

There is a reason he has been the only attacker with a guaranteed spot in the team since he joined.

He doesn't do like Zaha at all.

All these dogo turenci

Why do strikers enjoy playing with fabregas more tan with Hidden
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:25am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:
We know those we shouldn't and can't compare Hazard to in World footie right now.
They are just 2, just 2...there is absolutely nothing special about the rest attackers.

you can continue saying that till you are red in the face truth is when you look at the numbers Hazard is closer to Zaha than to the top
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:27am On May 21, 2017
Nihilist:

BUT I have no doubt in my mind that he can do better than Neymar with the right supporting cast.

We have heard this before

In Belgium he has a better support cast than Neymar had with Brazil and Neymar is double of Hazard production
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:28am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


you can continue saying that till you are red in the face truth is when you look at the numbers Hazard is closer to Zaha than to the top

We know who is rated higher by sensible men of the game not one nairaland pundit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:29am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:
We know who is rated higher by sensible men of the game not one nairaland pundit.

Who is rated higher between Hazard and Zahard?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:29am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


All these dogo turenci

Why do strikers enjoy playing with fabregas more tan with Hidden

Lol, how many strikers?? cheesy

Stop deceiving yourself abeg.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:30am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


Who is rated higher between Hazard and Zahard?

Zaha is rated higher than Hazard grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TeflonBlixx: 12:32am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


Who is rated higher between Hazard and Zahard?

Seriously. . .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:32am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Lol, how many strikers?? cheesy

Stop deceiving yourself abeg.

The only striker both of them play with Diego Costa
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:33am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Zaha is rated higher than Hazard grin grin grin

I didnt know this before. thanks for telling me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:33am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


We have heard this before

In Belgium he has a better support cast than Neymar had with Brazil and Neymar is double of Hazard production

Which yeye supporting cast, what did De bryune do at the last Euros abi na doz make - shift Lukaku brodas wey spoil game against Wales be better supporting cast that are better than Marcelo, Dani Alves, Thiago Silva of life or Felipe and David Luiz

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:34am On May 21, 2017
TeflonBlixx:


Seriously. . .

Shey u sef dey see the kind foolishness wey we dey deal with for Nairaland.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:35am On May 21, 2017
Nihilist:

Of course, each site has it's own subjective metrics and bias, but if they were unanimous about Hazard being better than Sanchez thus far thus season, then it sends a very loud message..

I disagree because even that is subjective. If I'm taking these rankings at face value and judging two attackers, I'm only concerned with their attack score, not their defence score that may be dependent on Azpilicueta and co keeping clean sheets. . . especially in the case of these two particular players as they have free roles in their respective teams with little or no defensive input expected from either of them.


Nihilist:

Ibime I wish Hazard leaves Chelsea for Madrid today so that he can catch a serviceable Ororo. You will see what the boy is made of. That dude can be foolish sometimes BUT I have no doubt in my mind that he can do better than Neymar with the right supporting cast.

Neymars Brazil record of 50+ goals tells me that if we hold all things constant, that is the kind of output needed to achieve Neymar numbers in Spain.

The parable of the talents comes to mind here. Hazard must post great numbers in EPL before I believe that. Sanchez was thrown out of Barca by Neymar. Hazard must post Sanchez numbers first. Even Neymar junior Gabriel Jesus is starting to post numbers albeit in a different role. That should tell you the gap that needs to be bridged to post Neymar numbers.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:35am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


The only striker both of them play with Diego Costa

I tot u said strikers....Abi u don forget difference between singular and plural again. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:35am On May 21, 2017
Nihilist:


A third of Costa's goals this season have come from set pieces which the likes of Fabregas and Willian take.

i think the main thing is the type of goals Costa scores.
Look at that Costa's second goal in one of our matches where he exchanged one two with pedro and hazard. That is one of the rarest goals you will see costa score. But, that is exactly hazard's style of play. He likes to exchange short intelligent passes with his striker. Fabregas in the other hand plays crosses.
Again, hazard draws players to himself and free Fabregas to play in a pass or cross. That is why both have a very good understanding and hazard is always passing to the person who gets the assist.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:35am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


WHich striker hasnt wasted clear cut chances created by a midfielder? Has Costa not wasted chances created by Fabregas?

So why does Fabregas have more assists than Hidden

That can only mean Fabregas constantly delivers quality assists while Hidden most time just lumps the ball and hopes Costa does something with it
is that also why pedro have more assist than hazard, quality passes?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TeflonBlixx: 12:37am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Shey u sef dey see the kind foolishness wey we dey deal with for Nairaland.

I was even shocked he was comparing Zaha to Hazard. . . Zaha is triple what Hazard is. .

Would rather have Zaha than that unproductive Hazard. .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:38am On May 21, 2017
Greatihex:
is that also why pedro have more assist than hazard, quality passes?

Yes Pedro more assists in less games abi shey Pedro dey bring assist from home
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:40am On May 21, 2017
TeflonBlixx:


I was even shocked he was comparing Zaha to Hazard. . . Zaha is triple what Hazard is. .

Would rather have Zaha than that unproductive Hazard. .

Chelseafan1 see better people. If only Zaha had Costa to support instead of Benteke
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:40am On May 21, 2017
Greatihex:
i think the main thing is the type of goals Costa scores.
Look at that Costa's second goal in one of our matches where he exchanged one two with pedro and hazard. That is one of the rarest goals you will see costa score. But, that is exactly hazard's style of play. He likes to exchange short intelligent passes with his striker. Fabregas in the other hand plays crosses.
Again, hazard draws players to himself and free Fabregas to play in a pass or cross. That is why both have a very good understanding and hazard is always passing to the person who gets the assist.

Our oldies no dey ever see this one.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:41am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:


I tot u said strikers....Abi u don forget difference between singular and plural again. grin

including the ones they played together with Drogba Etoo etc
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:41am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


Chelseafan1 see better people. If only Zaha had Costa to support instead of Benteke

You better mail your team to bid for Zaha wey Man utd throway comot grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:43am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Which yeye supporting cast, what did De bryune do at the last Euros abi na doz make - shift Lukaku brodas wey spoil game against Wales be better supporting cast that are better than Marcelo, Dani Alves, Thiago Silva of life or Felipe and David Luiz

you mentioned defenders why not Jo Fred Oscar William and Hulk.

Yes the same Oscar you hazard fans blamed for his poor output

Exchange Debruyne mertens naingollan Lukaku for Ramirez Fred hulk Oscar
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:45am On May 21, 2017
Chelseafan1:


You better mail your team to bid for Zaha wey Man utd throway comot grin grin grin

my team won't bid for either. Let hidden try going to Crystal palace to assist Benteke and see if he'll be better than Bolasie
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 12:46am On May 21, 2017
Dayo Dayo Dayo....Zaha haba grin.....This is even worse than Airmark comparing twerps like Holding and Smalling to Boateng.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:47am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


you mentioned defenders why not Jo Fred Oscar William and Hulk.

Yes the same Oscar you hazard fans blamed for his poor output

How many of those were starters then, We know Coutinho, Gustavo, Paulinho etc etc.

Defence by Lukaku brothers led Belgium down, you still havent told me what De bryune did well at the Euros or did he miss it.? Cos I am even confused sef.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:49am On May 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


my team won't bid for either. Let hidden try going to Crystal palace to assist Benteke and see if he'll be better than Bolasie

When we call you an idiot now, some pple will say we are insulting Elders, look at the person you are taking serious?


TeflonBlixx:


Morons like you should be castrated. .

0'lord of Logic and reasoning, So goals and assists are the only metric used in judging players??

You guys never cease to amaze tbh, Now it is coutinho is better than Hazard?? This shyte is getting stale.

And, you were saying Coutinho has more goals and assists than Hazard. . Prove it to us morafucker. .

I'm waiting.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:49am On May 21, 2017
Ibime:


Since you believe it, take it.
when Sanchez played mostly as cf for his team this season. Weldone!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:50am On May 21, 2017
chic2pimp:
Dayo Dayo Dayo....Zaha haba grin.....This is even worse than Airmark comparing twerps like Holding and Smalling to Boateng.

Forget the name, wear a full body disguise for both and wear butt pads for Zaha

You won't know the difference. Their football iq is similar. Pius Ikedia type football. And let Zaha take penalties instead of Benteke

You don't wonder why both are the ones topping take on charts with little assists to show

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