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Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Exciton(m): 9:31am On May 21, 2017 |
Lol. Theists always sound foolish whenever they try to explain away the issue of the existence of evil and suffering in a world supposedly created by a GOOD, OMNISCIENT, and OMNIPOTENT god. It's simply impossible for a creator to fulfill those three conditions and still end up creating the world we live in governed by the food chain, the laws of thermodynamics, and the extremely violent history of evolution where more than 95% of all species are already extinct. Also, you should never forget that there is a perpetual war going on at the microscopic scale - microorganisms constantly developing new attack and defensive abilities - all as a result of the laws that govern the universe. Advice to theists: just stop the argument and accept it as a divine mystery to keep your faith. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by malvisguy212: 9:37am On May 21, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:what cause suffering ? is it not disobedience ? if you disobey God , whose fault is it ? people fullishly blame God. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Youdondeymad: 9:38am On May 21, 2017 |
Emeskhalifa:Correct guy,Adam sin ko,lucipher sin ni. So much heresy and confusion in this world. 3 |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ScepticalPyrrho: 9:49am On May 21, 2017 |
malvisguy212:This young child in the picture below was suffering. As a wise person, who do you blame?
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Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Pastafarian: 9:54am On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: hopefullandlord tips his imaginary hat 1 Like |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by mrww(m): 9:55am On May 21, 2017 |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by kunleben1: 10:01am On May 21, 2017 |
malvisguy212: Thank u brother. I cannot agree less with u. I always likened the God-human relationship to the normal relationship we usually practice here on earth. How do u feel when u know that ur wife, girlfriend, husband or boyfriend love u naturally without u having to force it on her/him? Imagine u beating ur wife just to ensure that she must love/obey u. Even if she succumbs because u can overpower her, u know within ur heart that she doesn't actually love u/or want to submit to u, u r just forcing her to. Same thing goes to any relationship whether father-son, parents-children, boss-employees. This is same with God-human relationship. He gave us a choice to love/obey him or not to. If u choose to love and obey him, u have all the benefits, just like how u can do anything for ur submissive wife and obedient children. But unlike human who mete out punishment immediately for their disobedient children/unsubmissive wives, God would not do that. He will only wait giving u millions of opportunities for u to change ur mind.(2peter 3:9). He will not because of that curse u or punish u. But u will be living in luck, in a world filled with evil and good. And if u now die in the process, then that's when the punishment will come. An eternal damnation. Where u will have no choice again. For it is appointed for a man to die only but once, after which is judgment. (Hebrews 9:27). This choice that God has given us is what makes us think there is no God or God is slow. This is the earth and not heaven. If everything is perfect here then what need is there for a heaven? God has angels who have no choice but to obey Him and do his will. If he has to do that for us, then it means he will be converting us to angels which we r not. Typing is not easy, I would have gone on and on. But I hope this sheds a little light on the discussion at hand. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by keemi(m): 10:11am On May 21, 2017 |
One word for the OP "foolish " ![]() |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by malvisguy212: 10:29am On May 21, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:look at the earth, who can say the earth is not enough for the growth of food ? so if people stave, will you blame the supplier or the distributor ? do you remembered the bags of food that was sent to Sudan ? but the food was diverted by corrupted official. will you blame the people who donated the food or the distributor ? |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by hahn(m): 10:33am On May 21, 2017 |
HungerBAD: Christianity has over 33,000 denominations. If that is not a sign of confusion, I don't know what is Yahweh really enjoys watching his creation suffer. What a mean bastard ![]() ![]() |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by oaroloye(m): 10:39am On May 21, 2017 |
SHALOM! Thistrendblog: EVERY ONE OF THESE REASONS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT! There is only ONE REASON for SUFFERING in the Earth, and NONE of these reasons mention It. The Browser I am using is unreliable, and if I use my usual Paste-Up Technique, I may lose everything I write- so I will go into detail later. ALL SUFFERING HAS ONE CAUSE ONLY. . GENESIS 1:26-31. . DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6. God created Man to exercise DOMINION OVER THE EARTH. ALL SUFFERING is therefore the FAILURE to FULFIL that Purpose. THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD are GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS on HOW TO DOMINATE THE EARTH- starting with DOMINION OVER OUR HUMAN MIND and our HUMAN BODY. Failure to implement The Commandments of The Law of God at every level of Existence leads to CHASTENING, which is SUFFERING. 1 Like |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ScepticalPyrrho: 10:41am On May 21, 2017 |
malvisguy212:Let's assume the child was suffering from illness. Who would you blame? |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by malvisguy212: 10:54am On May 21, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:are you guys insane or what ? if you fall sick is God fault ? your heart is harden , the holy spirit is far from you, you cannot be convict of your sin, you see yourself as righteous man, this is the reason Jesus make the famous statements " the unforgiving sin" |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by oaroloye(m): 10:54am On May 21, 2017 |
SHALOM! hahn: CHRISTIANITY has many Denominations (no way can there be as many as 100, let alone 3,000!) but only ONE GOSPEL, and ONE WAY to CORRECTLY INTERPRET AND IMPLEMENT IT. The "confusion" is entirely yours. Lord YAHSHUA called us to FOLLOW HIM- not "denominations." How, then, is "confusion" possible? WILL SMITH was boasting to his father that he was better than him, because he had MORE CARS than he did. His father pointed out that he still didn't have but the ONE ASS to SIT in them! There is therefore no confusion in Christianity. Either the Christian treats the Words of YAHSHUA as GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS TO THEM, or else they DO NOT. There is NO MIDDLE GROUND. LORD YAHSHUA FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES TO BECOME RABBIS AND MASTERS. That means that EVERY CHURCH that has RABBIS and MASTERS is FAKE. After you have ELIMINATED all of those, how much "CONFUSION" do you have left? |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by hahn(m): 10:59am On May 21, 2017 |
oaroloye: Oh please ![]() |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:07am On May 21, 2017 |
malvisguy212:I only asked a question. Who do we blame for thousands of children dying daily? Did they disobey God? Please stay focused on the questions raised. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by jfleece(m): 11:13am On May 21, 2017 |
I hate it wen presumed brilliant people analyses crap.... The devil is wiser than men and he is using their ignorance to persuade people into atheism.. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ElsonMorali: 11:14am On May 21, 2017 |
Suffering is as a result of sin. QED! I agree in totality with the OP, But there's much more to it than stated. Whatever suffering each one of us passed through in this life is meant to purify us from ego and make us humble. Sometimes, or most times, our sufferings are as a result of karma, punishment due to sins of a previous life which is meant to purify us. Also, when we aspire for something and we keep falling short, it's because there's a lesson we are meant to learn at that stage in life and we can't proceed until we learn that lesson. Our journey in this world is a journey towards perfection as Jesus Christ himself said, be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect. Reincarnating many times helps us to move towards achieving perfection. But If after several subsequent reincarnations you keep moving lower and lower into abyss, you get worse in a next incarnation than you were in the immediate past life, then eventually you slip into the realm of total annihilation and separation from God. And that is hell. Nobody knows which level they are in. You just have to keep struggling to be good and to "do unto others as you want done to you", which is the central theme running through all of Christ's teachings. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ElsonMorali: 11:19am On May 21, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho: Who do we blame? So for lack for someone to blame you decide to blame God? Why don't you blame your leaders who propagate war in the first place, or your leaders who embezzle funds, or yourself who lots of times would see good But decide to do evil. Why should God be blamed? Would you prefer he keeps stepping forward and taking back the gift of freewill he has given to us whenever we are about to satisfy our selfish instincts? God is not to blame for the problems and sufferings of the world, not even the devil is, man is. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:21am On May 21, 2017 |
ElsonMorali:Perhaps you should follow our conversations from the 1st page. I didn't bring God into this matter. Your friend I quoted had this to say... what cause suffering ? is it not disobedience ? if you disobey God , whose fault is it ? people fullishly blame God. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by waldigit: 11:22am On May 21, 2017 |
HungerBAD:Suffering is important thing God used to get people into his perfect will or divine purpose for their life. Outside your divine purpose you are on your own for suffering and struggling. Adeboye and co in their life history also suffered before they got into the divine purposes for their lives then eversince the suffering and struggling stopped. I have spoken from experience, shalom. pls check my today's posting titled ' What is the essence of life' for further details. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by malvisguy212: 11:26am On May 21, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:who do you think is the problem for their illness ? did their disobedience cause their illness ? are they Christians ? did they look upon God to cure their illness ? |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:30am On May 21, 2017 |
malvisguy212:I would rather you give the answers or reason for their suffering. Stop spinning. Do you know why children suffer? |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Nobody: 12:05pm On May 21, 2017 |
Crap |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by kenrish2(m): 12:10pm On May 21, 2017 |
realestniggah:I agree with u religion is man made but the life Christ brought for us is not man made doctrine, u might not believe in christ so u have not experience the wonderful favour an supernatural experience that comes to those who believe. if u have gone thru some experience in life u will know that God is real and these things are not man made doctrine |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by banmee(m): 12:27pm On May 21, 2017 |
Thistrendblog: All rubbish reasons. Una sef. Smh. People suffer because; 1. Lack of information/exposure. You don't know what you don't know. This is very rampant in places like Nigeria. If you are not informed, how do you better yourself? 2. Lazy muthaphuckers. What's worse than not knowing what you are doing is being lazy and expecting everything to fall on your laps. Most Nigerians are like this as well. 3. Bad luck. Shiit happens. Most people just don't understand that bad things will always happen. It is inevitable. In countries like Nigeria, It is always the devil or a witches fault for something going wrong. 4. Religion. This will forever hold millions of people back till the end of time. You guys are amazing. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by akbayo(m): 1:02pm On May 21, 2017 |
Thistrendblog:. I believe Jesus has come to die for your sins, what sins are you suffering for again. You better be wise Bible is a scam.... |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Nobody: 1:46pm On May 21, 2017 |
I'm a bit surprised that most Christians (as evidenced in this thread) don't know or don't think that God permits/allows suffering (even undeserved suffering) on His children ![]() Anyways...*shrugs* |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by mezebel(f): 2:00pm On May 21, 2017 |
IamProfessorval:because adam sin before fathering u and I,that is why we are partaker of adamic sin. My opinion. |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Nobody: 2:03pm On May 21, 2017 |
And those that are from none Christian faiths? This is the reason why there are multi-millionaire pastors in the country. Blind faith! |
Re: 10 Reasons Why GOD Allows Suffering On His People by Relevance(m): 2:35pm On May 21, 2017 |
This is absolute fallacy. Why then did Jesus die? Suffering doesn't do God nor the sufferer any good. Jesus paid for it!!! 1 Like |
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