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Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Nobody: 8:23am On May 21, 2017 |
bakynes:oga don't misinform us . Lagos ports require dredging (theirs currently a controversy over the amount spent on dredging). Onne I think has the deepest port in Nigeria -just that it's not open for normal importation. 1 Like |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by RealityShot: 8:26am On May 21, 2017 |
PunditAfrica: lagos is an island..which makes it easy to defend from main landers.. foreign settlement there was a military tactic. 1 Like |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Kay17: 8:47am On May 21, 2017 |
Afam4eva: I disagree with you in respect to true federalism. A true federalist system with resources and power diluted amongst the states would not be able to build an infrastructure suitable for inter state commerce. By infrastructure I mean rail road and air transport. Aside from that the laws governing inter state commerce ought to be central and uniform which promotes investment. The reason Lagos is successful is due to its access to the sea. Considering Nigeria's horrid infrastructure and reliance on imports for everything, businesses and investors prefer being close to the sea as much as possible. But if there was an effective transport system businesses wouldn't mind spreading out for cheaper lands and workforce. 3 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Kay17: 8:52am On May 21, 2017 |
alexiej: What did you have in mind as from taxes and levies which a government can generate revenue from? Business? |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by chachanga: 8:54am On May 21, 2017 |
IdeyFindWife: Bravo Sir, well sir! People vote intellectually sapped leaders who only flew into to rig and win elections to 'rule' over people who's struggles they know nothing about and for whom, they have no plans, mercy or compassion. they're just political-prostitutes managing their own political-olosho career. Governments ought to be integrative and holistic working first for the good of their people/State instead of upholding biased, destructive party sentiments...nobody is saying anything about that! 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by TheRealestGuy(m): 8:54am On May 21, 2017 |
sunnyeinstein: Just like you, most of y'all ranting and foaming did not fully understand the succinct article. The writer never blamed Lagos for anything but rather he pointed out the unfortunate role of the federal government in it. Di you know that almost all federal parastatals are sited in either Lagos or Abuja? The only functional seaport for a country as big as ours in in Lagos. He also blamed the private investors and even state governments for not doing their bit, but a large chunk of the blame still goes to the central government. The constant influx of people into Lagos is not a very good thing and in the neatest future you will see why. The central government must put in concerted efforts to start locating federal projects (eg seaports, rail lines, power projects) outside Lagos and Abuja, not only for the good of other states but for the good of the two aforementioned states. Try to read, digest and comprehend before typing. 5 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by toprealman: 9:02am On May 21, 2017 |
Guestlander:In Abia it is Aba( despite not being the capital) |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Codes151(m): 9:04am On May 21, 2017 |
When we told mobil to relocate home they refused... what did you think? It's part of local development for us ... but yet nothing! |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by okooyinbo(m): 9:11am On May 21, 2017 |
Guestlander: The situation like we have in Nigeria is not available in Germany. Germany is to a certain degree evenly developed if we exempt the states formed from the erstwhile GDR. In your list, the country where you can possibly find the Lagos/Nigeria situation would be China/Guangdong. The gap in development between the States/Provinces in the other countries listed are not as wide as found in Nigeria. By the way, how do you come about that Bavaria wields such power and influence that is attributed to Lagos in Germany? Bavaria is not even the state with the largest economy in Germany. North Rhine Westphalia is the largest state in Germany population and economy wise. If you talk of per Capital income, she is not even the number one either. Hamburg has higher per capital income than Bavaria. Bavaria is nevertheless a very rich German state, but she does not have such position Lagos has. 1 Like |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by IdeyFindWife: 9:16am On May 21, 2017 |
chachanga: TheRealestGuy: I wonder why State governors don't even borrow into workable templates like former Guv Donald Duke's turnaround plan. He singlehandedly changed the prevalent paradigms about his State in his time. Most governors, over the years, via their personal greed, subservience to godfathers and brainless playing of 'party-politics" ended up spending two terms without building any meaningful legacy for their states. Our people elect thieving officials who are not leaders in any sense and it's true! A lot rides and falls on proactive, visionary leadership; there's so little the electorate can do but we keep on not seeing the failure of our own kith and kin, because we love shoving the blame elsewhere. If this clamor had started back, say like 12 years ago, we would not be here now. We're running a democracy for pete's sake. What were each of the now-clamoring State Senators doing all these years? Where are the Bills sponsored to that effect? Who, amongst them, can come forward and say "yes, we expressed this sentiment but we were shut-down"? No one! So, who is to blame for that? The same Lagos State that once denied it's allocations under the Obasanjo administration but refused to be broken and brought to its knees? forget it, (most) of our past State governments were brainless, talent-less, non-visionary sit-tight administrators. Blaming, blaming, blaming...am sure some crazy mof0s would be gearing up to lay blame on other countries and UN, ECOWAS etc for not helping us to wipe our arsses after shytting very soon! Reminds me, musically, of a failed Blackface blaming his, every misfortune, on Tuface Idibia who kept rising and still keeps re-inventing himself! 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by sunnyeinstein(m): 9:21am On May 21, 2017 |
TheRealestGuy: I did not reply as per d op's writeup, rather it was a response to d guy i quoted ranting about how lagos is to be blamed for other states' woes. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by shuni05: 9:27am On May 21, 2017 |
fidukpong: Nice one bro, all I've been saying to my friends when they bring up this topic. If each state got what Lagos got. I'll bet some states might actually be doing better than Lagos right now. However, I feel the Government is making the same mistake all over again and will result in Nigeria having another "Lagos". Concentrating your development on just Abuja leaving the rest of the country to develop itself. Compare DC to the rest of the US, a lot people won't know Geneve isn't the capital of Switzerland. If we model our country like this then we'll end up having just 2-3 good places where people will always wanna move to. I kind of envy the Germans, you'll do as good as someone in Berlin, Munich, Hamburg e.tc. because it's developed. I even heard the big cities are located at some specific distances from one another in other to develop others around. On a more serious note, I think Lagos is more or else like "Guardiolas Barcelona", bring any coach (except Wenger) and they'll perform, compare other states to the rest in the league not matter how good your governor/coach is, they'll still be the shadows of Barcelona. 1 Like |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by rayopt(m): 9:38am On May 21, 2017 |
caracas: I really hate to quote ppl but dat text in bold? lyk seriously? bro u need to spend more time in school tho' . . .*an heartfelt advise tho this piece z really educative. . . I just hope dat Nigerians can reason together without tribalistic perceptions. . .nothing encourages development like the chemistry between intelligent leaders and intelligent followers. . . GodBless ya if you understand that! A billion excuse is not worth a success story and stating the reasons for a job done is not as interesting as getting the job done. . |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by shehuolayinka(m): 9:41am On May 21, 2017 |
Restructure Nigeria |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by labi1977(m): 9:44am On May 21, 2017 |
my conclusion afta reading dis n similar threads , stop complaining and task ur state leaders to do d needful, u will get der noone can "hold" ur state down from growing forever, lol |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by logica(m): 9:53am On May 21, 2017 |
IdeyFindWife:That is the summary. Thanks. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Odingo1: 9:58am On May 21, 2017 |
All these SW people bragging about lagos and how their people develop lagos should tell us one single infrastructure that was built by their governors that made lagos the economic capital of Nigeria from 1999, All ports there was built by FG The standard international airport there was built by FG. Oil headquarters was manipulated to move to lagos by FG Bank headquarters all in lagos Embassies for visa issues are mainly in lagos All bridges was built by FG like third mainland bridge,Iganmu-VI bridge etc( i am not talking of flyover) |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by logica(m): 10:01am On May 21, 2017 |
janellemonae:I even checked your profile to confirm the ugliness. |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Guestlander: 10:07am On May 21, 2017 |
okooyinbo: You are right, Germany is now more evenly developed and the disparity I was trying to point out is not easily noticeable. This is also true for the other countries I mentioned but if you dial the clock back to when these countries were still developing then you will fully understand what I was trying to point out. These economic positions are obviously not written in stone especially when other regions are also working hard to get ahead. Some regions like California and Ontario have been able to hold on to their leading positions in their various countries for a very long time and I have never heard of a situation when any of them was regarded as stunting the development of their sister states, instead other states are constantly working hard to improve their own economy. My main concern therefore is why are other states not trying to catch up with Lagos? Government should not be compelling private companies to locate their headquarters or businesses anywhere, that is not how businesses operate. If you provide a conducive environment for them to come to your state, I think they will come without any coercion. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by mightyhaze: 10:29am On May 21, 2017 |
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Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by aribisala0(m): 10:49am On May 21, 2017 |
Guestlander: Lagos state is the smallest state by area in Nigeria let us not forget that. So bringing development to LAgos state is not such a huge task, relatively speaking, considering how small it is .Having said that it is still not that developed ,let us not miscontrue economic activity or relative wealth for development. Much of the state has no pipe borne water or sewwage system. Development is not down to government alone but the people and their own level of development. That is why Zamfara and Borno remain very backward.The people are backward. Benue State is TEN TIMES THE SIZE OF LAGOS so if it s infrastructure development we are talking about you will need to spend maybe 10 X as much to create the same appearance but infrastructure alone is not development rather it is people and in that regard Southern Nigeria is very different from much of the North. I do not believe a Lagos that was run by Fulani Muslims would be the same in terms of openness and accommodating diversity. Lagos state is a very small state with so many geographical and locational advantages and I would argue that its smallness is an advantage in terms of administration and concentration of infrastructure. The port is a great advantage but no one has mentioned is why? It is all down to the Lagos Ibadan and Lagos Benin Roads. Without those two roads the port loses much value. Without evacuation infrastructure like that any port in any other part of the country is a non starter. 1 Like |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by aribisala0(m): 11:06am On May 21, 2017 |
shuni05:This is nonsense really. We are now in 2017 what was the last major Project the FG executed in Lagos State. 3rd Mainland Bridge which was comissioned in 1991 the same year they moved to Abuja. The claim that any governor will perfor in Lagos is not only absurd it is daft. Since 1999 Lagos state has borrowed extensively and is now the most indebted state owing over $1 billion in foreign debt not to mention local . Lagos state leadership is probably the only one that its citizens will trust to borrow like that because they can see where the money goes We are talking not of infrastructure only but ideas The BRT Public deefender scheme Communinty Developent Association cascading Waste Management schemes Remember the Ebola outbreak? Strategic thinking in developing the Lekki Free Trade zone and others Ikordu road in the 90s was a two lane road today we have a six lane motorway built by the State Government from Mile 12 to Ketu. So please stop attributing this to the FG . Lagos has a huge population like Kano but Lagos is more creative in taxing its people and because it is so small( Nigerr State is 22 times its size) it can afford to concentrate its infrastructure spend 4 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Afam4eva(m): 11:10am On May 21, 2017 |
Guestlander:What exactly is the difference between Calfornia, Texas and New York states? Is it the same as the difference between Lagos, Rivers and Delta? I don't think so. At least 40% of states in the US are almost at the same level and compete favourably. California just happens to be winning at the moment with no so big margin. Tomorrow it could be Texas or New York. In Nigeria, it is Lagos and others. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by aribisala0(m): 11:19am On May 21, 2017 |
Odingo1: There is nothing like economic capital ,we have only one capital, There is an airport in all major states nott just Lagos. The Port was built by the British before independence. There is no law forcing Banks to have their headuarters in Lagos The bank CEOs like living in Lagos ,I wonder why The issue here today is why there is so much money in Lagos is it because of Bridges and Embassies? By the way all embassies are in Abuja . Even when they were in Lagsos the state governmennt coud not perform as it is now. Is it the FG that made Dangote site his refinery in Lagos ..Why does Dangote himself live in Lagos? Please explain how having oil headquarters contributed to the economy of Lagos before 1999. Did they start paying tax to Lagos state after 1999 because as of 1999 total IGR in lagos was 12 billion Naira a year and today it is over 300 billion If it is all those things tell us when we can expect the economy of Abuja to start booming 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by logica(m): 11:25am On May 21, 2017 |
aribisala0:Waiting for answers to these rhetorical questions *crickets* 2 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Pumpido75(m): 11:28am On May 21, 2017 |
I believe the writer's motive is good. The country needs even development for the betterment of all Nigerians. Rapid growth in few cities at the detriment of other parts of the country brings about rural -urban migration with it's challenges. |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Nobody: 11:48am On May 21, 2017 |
logica: This would have been a good discussion if any ways forward were discussed. But no, we must wail and deceptively incite hatred, while d pple ur inciting hatred against are expected to smile, nod and accept it. All those oil companies and JV's don't even pay taxes to the state. It's to the FG. The port also. And all the govt offices have moved to Abuja. I don't know what the Lagos State govt and Yorubas are expected to do. Maybe we should close d ports, close d markets, chase investors out, shut down d financial industry, put sand on our head, wear sackcloth and mourn in silence. Fools, I tell u. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by ba7man(m): 11:48am On May 21, 2017 |
Rather than looking inwards, they're looking at Lagos. Keep looking and wondering.......keep waiting for the Govt to come spoonfeed you with brains on how to develop yourselves. For starters, ask yourself what your State Govts 10 year plan is for your State?? When Tinubu was dusting Jakande's development plans in 1999, proposing grand projects eg BRT, Eko Atlantic, light-rail, Lekki-free trade zone, expanded Ikorodu rd, Lekki expressway, bring in Ivestors eg Shoprite, setting up institutions etc, what were your Governors doing then?? I remember a lot of you laughing and calling these plans "White Elephant projects" , also calling them his avenue to loot the State dry.....and predicting the failure of all these plans. Now, Tinubu's plans are yeilding fruits you're complaining. You better learn to live with your decisions. 3 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by ProWalker: 12:15pm On May 21, 2017 |
logica: You should know that comment was actually from a deranged, unthinking and envious brain 2 Likes |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by Chukazu: 12:18pm On May 21, 2017 |
I read a similar article by BBC about how London underdevelope UK cities and I thought to myself, this must be a disease traceable to British style of governance which you can't find in France, Germany or Italy Britain has a lopsided development that favors London at the expense other cities... The city London controls about 60% of UK's GDP, but country like France has even developments Paris |
Re: How Lagos May Be Underdeveloping The Rest Of Nigeria - Ynaija by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 12:39pm On May 21, 2017 |
Afam4eva: Ports Ports Ports |
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