Catholicism, is nothing other than Christianized idolatry, worship of Baal and the cage of every foul and hateful bird according to the book of Revelation. I regret every second i spent in that organization, from infancy. I do not doubt that there are children of God there, but if the Bible is Gods word, every seed of God must find a way out of that body before he or she dies. The God who did it for me will make sure of that, because my Bible tells me that its appointed unto man to die ONCE and after that judgement follows (Hebrews 9:27).

The Bible is Gods blueprint, constitution, and working tool. I don't care how rich, spread or learned a church is, if their doctrines don't jive with the Word, its needless continuing there. Now to your points.

Catholics and images- Do you not kneel before the Blessed Sacrament to pray? Do you not genuflect before it at Benediction? Do you not use rosary beads to recite prayers? Yet the commandment of God is express- do not have any graven image before me- whether of things in heaven, earth, sea and the likes. what other kind of worship will amount to idolatry?

Jesus had no brothers- sorry sir. its a big fat catholic lie. read Mark 6:3. no need for much talk.

Honour to Mary- Maryolatry was an ancient Babylonian form of worship- mother and son being venerated together; it didn't start today. it started with Nimrod and his mother Semiramis, down through the ages. matter of fact, that image of Mary. carrying Jesus was a direct adaptation from Bab ylonish worship that was Christianized; its origin is Babylon. Isaiah 42:8 says God will not share His glory with another. Mary is dead and cannot help anyone, as proper a channel as she was in incubating the saviour.Bible says the dead has no relationship with the living. Bible says we have only one mediator, the man Jesus Christ. God does not take kindly to divided attention. He is too jealous for that.

Bible having 73 books- The difference between the two is the 12 books of the Apocrypha. Not to say these were not true,but they are at best history, and are not divinely inspired. These twelve books were penned during the 400 years when there was no prophet in the land of Israel, that gulf between Malachi and Matthew. What makes the Bible Scripture is the element of divinity. The word of the Lord comes to a prophet, that is Gods order through the ages. So those 12 books cannot compare to the original 66.

Saints are sanctified people, simple. That a man is sanctified does not make him a spirit, or make him any less human. All these are wicked ploys to twist truth out of context to deceive; the Babylonians believed in ancestor worship. But to make it acceptable the names of Roman gods were given Christian names. How can anyone who knows the scriptures pray to angels,for the love of Mike? Angels that the Bible calls ministering spirits, servants to us? Please, no saint can help anyone. They are busy answering for themselves or resting, if at all any of the people catholicism adjudges with sainthood qualifies to be saints by the Scriptures. most of them were paedophiles and fornicators or at best, philosophers. The worst that can happen to a man is to die without the Holy Ghost. There is no Scripture that allows a dead man to interceed for any living man. Even when Lazarus and the rich man met yonder, and he requested for his siblings to hear the gospel, Abraham told him there were prophets in the land.


A lot of obnoxious and unscriptural doctrines are touted about in Catholicism. Infant baptism, purgatory, Maryolatry, Christmas, Trinity, Easter, Halloween- all these and more have no backing whatsoever in the Bible. Everything about that body is a deliberate and savage plot to garner souls for anywhere other than heaven. We have only one shot at life. No one will claim ignorance on that day. Let the Bible be your absolute.

WHat most protestants fail to understand is theres has been tradition. they believe everthn just sprang up from nothing. my question is how did the bible came to be. the bible they claim catholics are twisting. how was it compiled. do they think its just the bible that is an existing scripture.

Without the catholics, do u guys think u ll av a bible to use to preach today or even begin ur journey of faith.

I love this brother keep it up you have really open my eyes thanks a lot

Yes, it is not stated anywhere that drinking alcohol is sin. But you will agree with me that people who get drunk DO NOT set out to get drunk. They believe they can contain it. Again, no drunk man or woman will agree to the fact that he or she is drunk. In Proverbs 31, the King Lemuel was told, it isn't for kings to drink wine, or princes strong drink. Did the Bible not call Christians kings and priests unto God?

Drinking alcohol most always leads to dire consequences, and Bible says we are to abstain from all appearances of evil. In this case its not about what you do, but the potentials in what you do. We are bought with a price, our body isn't ours, but a temple of the living God.

A Christian who has the Holy Ghost will NOT touch alcohol except at holy communion. It is not about knowing the Word of God, but knowing the God of the Word.

easymancfc:

those scriptures say the same thing as Mathew 13 and Mark 6..

this is the question how could the apostle James be the son of alphaeus and Mary at the same time

why are you stuck up with james??...arent you seeing the other siblings mentioned there by their names and including Jesus' sisters?? joseph ,judas and simon were mentioned as his siblings(all joseph and marys kids). clear cut scriptures and you avoid them like plague..the james which was jesus' brother was neither the son of zebedee or alpheus. the james which was Jesus' brother is still the same brother to judas which was still a sibling to Jesus.

jude 1:1

New International Version
Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:

this james who Jesus appeared to when he was resurrected was both Jesus' brother and the writer of the book of james and judas sibling.

Jesus had half siblings which mary gave birth to with Joseph.

denying wont help your course. mary never died a virgin. she was happily married to joseph who had sex with her numerous times to give birth to other kids.

Jayboi:
WHat most protestants fail to understand is theres has been tradition. they believe everthn just sprang up from nothing. my question is how did the bible came to be. the bible they claim catholics are twisting. how was it compiled. do they think its just the bible that is an existing scripture.

Without the catholics, do u guys think u ll av a bible to use to preach today or even begin ur journey of faith.

this is always the get out of jail cards for idolaters like you. was it not the same catholic priests of old who burnt and killed many persons who translated the bible into the common language of persons to learn the truth

which because of catholics people wont have the bible. i guess the Catholics were existing in the time of moses to preserve the scriptures..

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Lol...this is laughable, really! A dead rich man in hell right, and being a soul, made a request to another dead saint- The dead talking to the dead!

Now, please tell me, how does this explain and validate the living asking the dead to intercede on their behalf? Please use another Bible passage to confirm your statement.

It seems you don't even understand yourself, how would you understand others? You asked me to show you where the "dead" intercedes and I've shown you in the scriptures the conversation between Abraham and the rich man and yet (as confusing as usual as you are) you changed it to two "dead" people conversing. I think you are confused whether to accept the obvious that is staring at you from the scriptures or you continue to believe the unbiblical falsehood that you have been thought for many years. I can understand, it's not easy to change mindset even when the truth stares at you

*FYI, Abraham is NOT dead. He is living and in the presence of God, that's why till tomorrow, God will always be the God of Abraham. God is not a God of the dead but of the living Matt 22:32

Izonpikin:
why are you stuck up with james??...arent you seeing the other siblings mentioned there by their names and including Jesus' sisters?? joseph ,judas and simon were mentioned as his siblings(all joseph and marys kids). clear cut scriptures and you avoid them like plague..the james which was jesus' brother was neither the son of zebedee or alpheus. the james which was Jesus' brother is still the same brother to judas which was still a sibling to Jesus.

jude 1:1

New International Version
Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:

this james who Jesus appeared to when he was resurrected was both Jesus' brother and the writer of the book of james and judas sibling.

Jesus had half siblings which mary gave birth to with Joseph.

denying wont help your course. mary never died a virgin. she was happily married to joseph who had sex with her numerous times to give birth to other kids.

Jude 1:1 calls Jude the brother of James not Jesus, that much is clear.. Joses and James mother I have already shown you to be a different Mary... Sex is your problem... Like I have said... sex is not the be all and end all of marriage... besides the Bible never tells you anywhere explicitly that Mary and Joseph had sex numerous times...

I assume you have never heard of chaste marriage.. Since sex is all you emphasize


I don't know what you're arguing

Izonpikin:
this is always the get out of jail cards for idolaters like you. was it not the same catholic priests of old who burnt and killed many persons who translated the bible into the common language of persons to learn the truth

which because of catholics people wont have the bible. i guess the Catholics were existing in the time of moses to preserve the scriptures..

Can you prove this with accurate historical sources... I don't want your anti Catholic websites... give good unbiased websites..

encyclopedia Britannica. or Wikipedia??

easymancfc:


Can you prove this with accurate historical sources... I don't want your anti Catholic websites... give good unbiased websites..

encyclopedia Britannica. or Wikipedia??

oh..so you mean to tell me you dont know your history??.how the roman catholic church impeded the transliteration of the scriptures for the common man to read??..you want me to spoon feed you

easymancfc:


Jude 1:1 calls Jude the brother of James not Jesus, that much is clear.. Joses and James mother I have already shown you to be a different Mary... Sex is your problem... Like I have said... sex is not the be all and end all of marriage... besides the Bible never tells you anywhere explicitly that Mary and Joseph had sex numerous times...

I assume you have never heard of chaste marriage.. Since sex is all you emphasize


I don't know what you're arguing

i am connecting the dots for you since youve been blinded by idolatry.

it all starts with the fact that Jesus' brothers were all mentioned in mark but youve avoided all of them, reason why i connected jude(judas) and james to remove the veil from your eyes..

joseph and mary were married and you expect them not to have sex?? are you insane??

how can a marriage be chaste again??..is this boy well at all??...you think joseph was a catholic pope and mary a nun??..are you well

Izonpikin:
oh..so you mean to tell me you dont know your history??.how the roman catholic church impeded the transliteration of the scriptures for the common man to read??..you want me to spoon feed you

I don't.. yes please spoonfeed me.. Show Me the truth with accurate historical documents.. not anti Catholic biased history.

Am waiting please

Encyclopedia Britannica or Wikipedia as your sources please

Izonpikin:
i am connecting the dots for you since youve been blinded by idolatry.

it all starts with the fact that Jesus' brothers were all mentioned in mark but youve avoided all of them, reason why i connected jude(judas) and james to remove the veil from your eyes..

joseph and mary were married and you expect them not to have sex?? are you insane??

how can a marriage be chaste again??..is this boy well at all??...you think joseph was a catholic pope and mary a nun??..are you well

Is it that you ignored my earlier response or that you're just dull...

I showed you that all those brothers had another mother... which Mathew calls the other Mary

Here's the post again incase you didn't see it

mark 15:47 Mary Mag′dalene and MARY the MOTHER OF JOSES saw where he was laid.
NOT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS

Matthew 27:56 among whom were Mary Mag′dalene, and MARY the MOTHER of JAMES and JOSEPH, and the mother of the sons of Zeb′edee.
NOT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...

Luke 24: 10 Now it was Mary Mag′dalene and Jo-an′na and MARY THE MOTHER of JAMES and the other women with them who told this to the apostles
NOT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...

James and Joses/Joseph's Mother is another Mary...

What about Jude

Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James,Not JUDE BROTHER AND SERVANT OF JESUS CHRIST

Splinz:


Smart, but not impressive. Point of correction: God said, not I. “Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?” (Lamentations 3:37).

Who is he that decreed the bowing down and worship of an idol of 'a' Mary or Jesus?

You make laugh at the way you interpret the bible. God will NEVER ask you to commit a sin He has asked you never to commit. God is not a confusing God. God can not tell Moses to make a bronze serpent; God can not abide in a temple made by Solomon where images of Cherubim & Seraphim are kept on the alter if He condemned making of images. Same way, God can not ask you to sleep with your neighbour's wife when He has asked you not to commit adultery. Making of images is not a sin, worshiping it is a sin. After all, we all have we images of our loved ones in our homes (that's our pictures), do we worship them?

easymancfc:


Is it that you ignored my earlier response or that you're just dull...

I showed you that all those brothers had another mother... which Mathew calls the other Mary

Here's the post again incase you didn't see it

mark 15:47 Mary Mag′dalene and MARY the MOTHER OF JOSES saw where he was laid.
NOT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS

Matthew 27:56 among whom were Mary Mag′dalene, and MARY the MOTHER of JAMES and JOSEPH, and the mother of the sons of Zeb′edee.
NOT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...

Luke 24: 10 Now it was Mary Mag′dalene and Jo-an′na and MARY THE MOTHER of JAMES and the other women with them who told this to the apostles
NOT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...

James and Joses/Joseph's Mother is another Mary...

What about Jude

Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James,Not JUDE BROTHER AND SERVANT OF JESUS CHRIST

so you shifted them to another mother but abandoned Joseph who was mentioned there as the carpenter who was a step father to Jesus. matthew explicitly showed the indigenes identified Jesus siblings and mentioned joseph the carpenter and mary.. here you are denying mary..

please show me the other mary who gave birth to simon, Joseph and james??please show me??...

james and jude and joseph were all sons of mary mother of Jesus and siblings of Jesus.

observers knew who jesus siblings are and here you are in the 21st century running away from the truth because you want to worship mary..


show me the other mary that married joseph to give birth to Jesus half brothers..

mary had sisters who also answered the same name. but as matthew specified mary the mother of Jesus gave birth to other sons and their names were mentioned. Joses wasn't one of them..

the matthew 27:56 rightly spells out the fact that the sons of zebedee werent Jesus' siblings...The observers rightly mentioned the names of Jesus brothers and also identified his sisters...ok who gave birth to Jesus's sisters..mary magdalene

iyke2k4:
this is like cult....

Get behind me Satan! Everything about the Catholic church is open, nothing secret, nothing hidden.

Izonpikin:
oh..so you mean to tell me you dont know your history??.how the roman catholic church impeded the transliteration of the scriptures for the common man to read??..you want me to spoon feed you

Who fed you? Or did u witness it? Take your time and pray sincerely for the holy spirit to open your mind without bias

Izonpikin:
so you shifted them to another mother but abandoned Joseph who was mentioned there as the carpenter who was a step father to Jesus. matthew explicitly showed the indigenes identified Jesus siblings and mentioned joseph the carpenter and mary.. here you are denying mary..

please show me the other mary who gave birth to simon, Joseph and james??please show me??...

james and jude and joseph were all sons of mary mother of Jesus and siblings of Jesus.

observers knew who jesus siblings are and here you are in the 21st century running away from the truth because you want to worship mary..


show me the other mary that married joseph to give birth to Jesus half brothers..

mary had sisters who also answered the same name. but as matthew specified mary the mother of Jesus gave birth to other sons and their names were mentioned. Joses wasn't one of them..

the matthew 27:56 rightly spells out the fact that the sons of zebedee werent Jesus' siblings...The observers rightly mentioned the names of Jesus brothers and also identified his sisters...ok who gave birth to Jesus's sisters..mary magdalene

You're not making any sense..
Yes the people recognized them as adelphoi.. which could mean brothers, half brothers, cousins or even nephew and uncle
if I grew up in a place the people around would know my family.. whether they are cousins or nephews or uncles.. point is.. adelphoi was used for all..


How could Mary have sisters of the same name? how can parents give the same name to different children..

It nowhere states that Mary the Mother of Jesus had any other Children.. James and Jose's had the same mother.. Incase Joses and Joseph are the same name

Mat 27: 56 is clear 56 among whom were Mary Mag′dalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zeb′edee.

Mary the Mother of James and Joseph or Joses

Scripture refers to the His Mother either as the Mother of Jesus or Mother of the Lord not Mother of any other person..

You are just going round in circles

Izonpikin:
oh..so you mean to tell me you dont know your history??.how the roman catholic church impeded the transliteration of the scriptures for the common man to read??..you want me to spoon feed you

Still waiting for your historical evidence

LogicStatement:

It seems you don't even understand yourself, how would you understand others? You asked me to show you where the "dead" intercedes and I've shown you in the scriptures the conversation between Abraham and the rich man and yet (as confusing as usual as you are) you changed it to two "dead" people conversing. I think you are confused whether to accept the obvious that is staring at you from the scriptures or you continue to believe the unbiblical falsehood that you have been thought for many years. I can understand, it's not easy to change mindset even when the truth stares at you

*FYI, Abraham is NOT dead. He is living and in the presence of God, that's why till tomorrow, God will always be the God of Abraham. God is not a God of the dead but of the living Matt 22:32

Stop being ridiculous, please!

Abraham is dead! Dead to this world even if he lives in heaven, same way the rich man is also dead!
Saying two dead men speaking to each other is very appropriate, my friend! Spiritual death is different, we are talking about physical death.

As long as that Bible passage you quoted is concerned, it was two physical dead people talking with each other; one was in hell and the other in God's presence, none was physically alive!

Until you show me where in the Bible that talks about a physically living human being asking a physically dead saint to intercede for him, then all you're doing is just mental masturbation.

Please if you can't do the above, don't quote me, I'm tired of showing you how ignorant and misguided you are.

Splinz:


These are explanations you give to your fellow Catholic, not someone like me. Being smart by half wouldn't work here.

“Intercessions aren't made to saints”, so what do you do when you kneel before the statue of 'a' Mary and pray to the idol? The question is: Which of the faithful servants throughout the ages has ever prayed to a departed faithful for his/her intercession?

You may as well help in answering this one question: Which of the saints did Abraham or Jesus prayed to for their intercessions?

sir..did Saul ask for the help of Samuel who was already dead or not?

poik:

Catholicism, is nothing other than Christianized idolatry, worship of Baal and the cage of every foul and hateful bird according to the book of Revelation. I regret every second i spent in that organization, from infancy. I do not doubt that there are children of God there, but if the Bible is Gods word, every seed of God must find a way out of that body before he or she dies. The God who did it for me will make sure of that, because my Bible tells me that its appointed unto man to die ONCE and after that judgement follows (Hebrews 9:27).

The Bible is Gods blueprint, constitution, and working tool. I don't care how rich, spread or learned a church is, if their doctrines don't jive with the Word, its needless continuing there. Now to your points.

Catholics and images- Do you not kneel before the Blessed Sacrament to pray? Do you not genuflect before it at Benediction? Do you not use rosary beads to recite prayers? Yet the commandment of God is express- do not have any graven image before me- whether of things in heaven, earth, sea and the likes. what other kind of worship will amount to idolatry?

Jesus had no brothers- sorry sir. its a big fat catholic lie. read Mark 6:3. no need for much talk.

Honour to Mary- Maryolatry was an ancient Babylonian form of worship- mother and son being venerated together; it didn't start today. it started with Nimrod and his mother Semiramis, down through the ages. matter of fact, that image of Mary. carrying Jesus was a direct adaptation from Bab ylonish worship that was Christianized; its origin is Babylon. Isaiah 42:8 says God will not share His glory with another. Mary is dead and cannot help anyone, as proper a channel as she was in incubating the saviour.Bible says the dead has no relationship with the living. Bible says we have only one mediator, the man Jesus Christ. God does not take kindly to divided attention. He is too jealous for that.

Bible having 73 books- The difference between the two is the 12 books of the Apocrypha. Not to say these were not true,but they are at best history, and are not divinely inspired. These twelve books were penned during the 400 years when there was no prophet in the land of Israel, that gulf between Malachi and Matthew. What makes the Bible Scripture is the element of divinity. The word of the Lord comes to a prophet, that is Gods order through the ages. So those 12 books cannot compare to the original 66.

Saints are sanctified people, simple. That a man is sanctified does not make him a spirit, or make him any less human. All these are wicked ploys to twist truth out of context to deceive; the Babylonians believed in ancestor worship. But to make it acceptable the names of Roman gods were given Christian names. How can anyone who knows the scriptures pray to angels,for the love of Mike? Angels that the Bible calls ministering spirits, servants to us? Please, no saint can help anyone. They are busy answering for themselves or resting, if at all any of the people catholicism adjudges with sainthood qualifies to be saints by the Scriptures. most of them were paedophiles and fornicators or at best, philosophers. The worst that can happen to a man is to die without the Holy Ghost. There is no Scripture that allows a dead man to interceed for any living man. Even when Lazarus and the rich man met yonder, and he requested for his siblings to hear the gospel, Abraham told him there were prophets in the land.


A lot of obnoxious and unscriptural doctrines are touted about in Catholicism. Infant baptism, purgatory, Maryolatry, Christmas, Trinity, Easter, Halloween- all these and more have no backing whatsoever in the Bible. Everything about that body is a deliberate and savage plot to garner souls for anywhere other than heaven. We have only one shot at life. No one will claim ignorance on that day. Let the Bible be your absolute.

hello sir. so sorry u didnt get to discover the truth. u definitely are part of those who had no choice but to follow ur parents to church but upon growing older decided to attend the one that best suits u. I am lucky to be born in the church and even lucky to discover the truth abt it. im a proud catholic. yes,the church is not perfect but richly blessrd when compared to modern day churches designed to meet todays culture.
the truth is ur mind cant be changed because ur heart is even closed in the first place.

easymancfc:

You're not making any sense..
Yes the people recognized them as adelphoi.. which could mean brothers, half brothers, cousins or even nephew and uncle
if I grew up in a place the people around would know my family.. whether they are cousins or nephews or uncles.. point is.. adelphoi was used for all..


How could Mary have sisters of the same name? how can parents give the same name to different children..

It nowhere states that Mary the Mother of Jesus had any other Children.. James and Jose's had the same mother.. Incase Joses and Joseph are the same name

Mat 27: 56 is clear 56 among whom were Mary Mag′dalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zeb′edee.

Mary the Mother of James and Joseph or Joses

Scripture refers to the His Mother either as the Mother of Jesus or Mother of the Lord not Mother of any other person..

You are just going round in circles

so mary was the only person who answered mary in the scriptures??...what are you saying??

what about simon and joseph?? what about the sisters people identified as siblings of Jesus and daughters to the carpenter??

you are the one making no sense..in that same verse the carpenter and mary was mentioned but youve shifted the goal post to save your sorry ass but left the carpenter??

who is the carpenter that the observers associated Jesus with??...you have escaped simon and Joseph??

check up the greek word syg·ge·nonʹ which is used to connote relatives and not a·del·phoiʹ used for blood siblings.

infact Jesus had to clearly differentiate blood siblings from his spiritual brothers and sisters when he said in

Mark 3:31-35New International Version (NIV)

31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”

33 “Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked.

34 Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

Jesus in the open clearly differentiated his earthly half siblings and mother from his spiritual brethrens.

the package of mary and her other children is right in front of you but you've chosen to dance azonto on the issue.

Izonpikin:
this is always the get out of jail cards for idolaters like you. was it not the same catholic priests of old who burnt and killed many persons who translated the bible into the common language of persons to learn the truth

which because of catholics people wont have the bible. i guess the Catholics were existing in the time of moses to preserve the scriptures..

you can call it whateva u want. yes the Catholic church has its past which im nit proud of but today it remains strong and still learning. nevertheless, whateva material u av today is becos the church allowed it be in the first place. most of these ignorance u guys display today is simply because u lack the required info. there are several countless scriptures at the Vatican today. not all can make it into the holy bible.
you guys lack a lot of info yet prove as if u found the bible as a whole from somewhere just like that.
What most of u guys display today is just sheer hypocrisy. u only want to hear what u want to hear.

Izonpikin:
but that scripture explicitly shows the indigenes knew of the siblings of Jesus Christ.

ok here is a reference to the scriptures i quoted

galatians 1: 14-19

Galatians 1:14-19New International Version (NIV)

14 I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being. 17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus.

18 Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas[a] and stayed with him fifteen days. 19 I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother.



verse 19 once again specifically singles out james as Jesus' brother(sibling).

evidences everywhere mary slept with her God ordained husband and gave birth to other children.


even paul knew Jesus had half siblings...

esaymancfc has explained it here "From Galatians.. Paul says James the Lords brother is an apostle, there are only two James in the list of the apostles...
James the son of Zebedee and James the Son of alphaeus or James the lesser, He is the Son of alphaeus not Joseph.. unless you think Mary committed adultery or had another husband
Luke 6: 15 and Matthew, and Thomas, and JAMES THE SON of ALPHAEUS , and Simon who was called the Zealot"
...And to add to that, if James were Jesus' biological brother, he wouldn't have been called James the son of Alphaeus. The problem here is that you and your likes don't know that the English bible was translated from the Greek and Greek from Hebrew. In Greek as well as in Hebrew, there is no word for cousin, nephew, uncle or aunty, once they are genealogically related (related by blood) they are called brothers or sisters as the case may be. John 19:25, "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, Mary and His mother's sister, Mary [the wife] of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene." Note that Jesus' mother's sister is also called Mary in this passage but can two biological sisters called the same name within a nuclear family? That proves that Mary the wife of Clopas is not the biological sister of Mary mother of Jesus but a relative.

Jayboi:

you can call it whateva u want. yes the Catholic church has its past which im nit proud of but today it remains strong and still learning. nevertheless, whateva material u av today is becos the church allowed it be in the first place. most of these ignorance u guys display today is simply because u lack the required info. there are several countless scriptures at the Vatican today. not all can make it into the holy bible.
you guys lack a lot of info yet prove as if u found the bible as a whole from somewhere just like that.
What most of u guys display today is just sheer hypocrisy. u only want to hear what u want to hear.

the catholic church persecuted honest hearted truth finders. killed them just because they chose to abandon the paganism entrenched in the church..many persons fought the church and were emancipated, free from the wicked hands of rome and the church.

if avoiding the use of the rosaries and matching around with marys image is ignorance then let me die in the ignorance.

Izonpikin:
so mary was the only person who answered mary in the scriptures??...what are you saying??

what about simon and joseph?? what about the sisters people identified as siblings of Jesus and daughters to the carpenter??

you are the one making no sense..in that same verse the carpenter and mary was mentioned but youve shifted the goal post to save your sorry ass but left the carpenter??

who is the carpenter that the observers associated Jesus with??...you have escaped simon and Joseph??

check up the greek word syg·ge·nonʹ which is used to connote relatives and not a·del·phoiʹ used for blood siblings.

infact Jesus had to clearly differentiate blood siblings from his spiritual brothers and sisters when he said in

Mark 3:31-35New International Version (NIV)

31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”

33 “Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked.

34 Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

Jesus in the open clearly differentiated his earthly half siblings and mother from his spiritual brethrens.

the package of mary and her other children is right in front of you but you've chosen to dance azonto on the issue.

Two sisters cannot have the same name...

Joseph and Joses are the same person...

the carpenters son doesn't mean it applies to all of them..

scripture doesn't provide many references to Simon but if three are not the son.. then Simon isn't either..

you going round in circles.. it won't help you.. it's just annoying and it shows obstinacy

LogicStatement:

esaymancfc has explained it here "From Galatians.. Paul says James the Lords brother is an apostle, there are only two James in the list of the apostles...
James the son of Zebedee and James the Son of alphaeus or James the lesser, He is the Son of alphaeus not Joseph.. unless you think Mary committed adultery or had another husband
Luke 6: 15 and Matthew, and Thomas, and JAMES THE SON of ALPHAEUS , and Simon who was called the Zealot"
...And to add to that, if James were Jesus' biological brother, he wouldn't have been called James the son of Alphaeus. The problem here is that you and your likes don't know that the English bible was translated from the Greek and Greek from Hebrew. In Greek as well as in Hebrew, there is no word for cousin, nephew, uncle or aunty, once they are genealogically related (related by blood) they are called brothers or sisters as the case may be. John 19:25, "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, Mary and His mother's sister, Mary [the wife] of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene." Note that Jesus' mother's sister is also called Mary in this passage but can two biological sisters called the same name within a nuclear family? That proves that Mary the wife of Clopas is not the biological sister of Mary mother of Jesus but a relative.

oboy what escapism is this. in my house i have two tares and tonyes but with different prefixes and suffixes.. what the hell are you guys about with the impossibility of two siblings answering same name??..was marys name exclusive to her alone rubbish...

Jesus even distinguished between his earthly mother and siblings in front of many and yet you guys jump about..

there is a distinguished greek word between blood siblings and relatives..read up man...

easymancfc:


Two sisters cannot have the same name...

Joseph and Joses are the same person...

the carpenters son doesn't mean it applies to all of them..

scripture doesn't provide many references to Simon but if three are not the son.. then Simon isn't either..

you going round in circles.. it won't help you.. it's just annoying and it shows obstinacy

i have two tares right in my house and here you are finding a get out of jail card...my dad and myself answer same name..see this ignorant people ooo...

Splinz:


Which of the departed faithfuls did Mary pray for their intercession while she was alive?

Being a Christian is not just to carry bible upandan ... The first miracle of Jesus Christ. .. who told him about the wine... that was Mary.. she interceded on their behalf ... smh for protestants

Izonpikin:
i have two tares right in my house and here you are finding a get out of jail card...my dad and myself answer same name..see this ignorant people ooo...

It's like get out of jail free card is your favorite word..

father and Son have the distinction of Junior and Senior.. besides in the home, most people don't call their fathers by their names.. daddy suffices, so you either here junior or the name..

We are talking about sisters here.. not father-son having the same name..

You can find Father-son.. but you can't find siblings who are called by the same name...
Who's ignorant now?

Ever8054:
sir..did Saul ask for the help of Samuel who was already dead or not?

Saul did asked for the help of Samuel who was already dead.

But before you get excited, note who Saul approached to bring forth the spirit of Samuel: A medium! Yes, the very people and practice condemned in strongest of terms by God in the Bible.

So, in line with the Scriptures that states that the dead do not know anything, and that Satan can also transform itself into an angel of light, it is accurate to say that the spirit conjured and brought forth by the medium to speak to Saul was an impersonator- a demon!