I have gone offline for a while, but on coming back and reading some posts of my brother, Tintingz I saw some things that caught my attention. He is sounding like an agnostic to me or am I missing something

Tintingz, please which books have you been reading of recent?
Do you know believe that the brain/logic only is capable of leading one to the truth?

Please I am worried


Empiree, Albaqir, Rilwayne001, Sino

Welcome back

Bothered too actually but I really don't know much of his past here until I realized lately that he was active in this section. Some brothers are not making his situation better to be sincere.

Although I have always seen his ideology more as a joke. I thought he was not serious until he made some comments that got me

Lately, I have not seen anything he agrees with Islamically.

Empiree:
Welcome back

Bothered too actually but I really don't know much of his past here until I realized lately that he was active in this section. Some brothers are not making his situation better to be sincere.

Although I have always seen his ideology more as a joke. I thought he was not serious until he made some comments that got me

Lately, I have not seen anything he agrees with Islamically.

Thanks bro.

He was an ardent poster here before. Even some of the questions he is asking on his threads are questions he had answered when non-muslims asked such questions in the past.

I don't know what's wrong with the brother? Maybe he has busied himself with some sort of philosophical books, I just don't know.

Exactly, some brothers are making things worse. Just name calling (ANAS, NAS et al). I don't know how that would help him.

Maybe he got some answers

Welcome back Lanre. Feels good to have you back.

lanrexlan:
I have gone offline for a while, but on coming back and reading some posts of my brother, Tintingz I saw some things that caught my attention. He is sounding like an agnostic to me or am I missing something

He's not even an agnostic, he sounds confused. The other day, he said he doesn't know whether he's a pantheist or a deist. Lol.

The thing is, he claimed to be rational. Of course we are all rational, but he took his own far by questioning the supernatural. And albaqir asked him a very pertinent question the other day. A question I wish he had answered but he didn't. Thankfully you are here now. And being one of his buddy and a respected bro here, you can be of help as well.

I had asked him to open a thread and tell us his predicament, but hitherto, he hasn't. Hopefully, this thread will do.

Once again, welcome back brother. And please don't disappear as usual.

Dat guy has been touched by evil forces... At this moment he is not confused he is more than confused, wats even more annoying is wen he is claiming to be rational, am like dude, do u even listen to urself, how can U claim to be rational with different confused thought.

The only help he can get is... A thourough RUQYA... Dats if it help.

As for me i care less.

@Lanrexlan

Do you know him personally? I mean off nairaland?

If not, I would suggest that you recall prior posters like Abdulsleek and maybe usermane. I may have noticed his more recent posts than his earlier ones which may have seemed genuine. Overall, May Allah grant him the best gift, Ameen

ayinba1:
@Lanrexlan

Do you know him personally? I mean off nairaland?

If not, I would suggest that you recall prior posters like Abdulsleek and maybe usermane. I may have noticed his more recent posts than his earlier ones which may have seemed genuine. Overall, May Allah grant him the best gift, Ameen

He is not logicboy/abdulsleek...

Wow! My lovely brother Lanre is back!

I remember those days when you call me on phone just to check on me and ask about my well being. May Allah(SWT) continue his blessings on you.

lanrexlan:
I have gone offline for a while, but on coming back and reading some posts of my brother, Tintingz I saw some things that caught my attention. He is sounding like an agnostic to me or am I missing something

I know you will be shocked about the sudden changes in my posts concerning Islam, well I'm still that tintingz, the Taiwo you know, I don't have any grudges with anybody here except does that insult me.

Tintingz, please which books have you been reading of recent?
Do you know believe that the brain/logic only is capable of leading one to the truth?

Well I've be reading a lot of books concerning all beliefs, religion, science, philosophy, psychology, history etc.

I believe the brain was design for humans to reason and reason and reason deeply, there is nothing like "leading to the truth" in my ideology, everyone, every beliefs is claiming the truth. What's truth to you may not be truth to another.

Please I am worried

This is normal, to be worried about a brother that you loved by heart, thanks for that. I was also worried about your absence for years in this section, I hope you're back for good.

Welcome back bro.

Empiree:
Welcome back

Bothered too actually but I really don't know much of his past here until I realized lately that he was active in this section. Some brothers are not making his situation better to be sincere.

Although I have always seen his ideology more as a joke. I thought he was not serious until he made some comments that got me

Lately, I have not seen anything he agrees with Islamically.

@bolded, really?

Rilwayne001:
Welcome back Lanre. Feels good to have you back.

Thanks dear brother, hope you are good??

Rilwayne001:

He's not even an agnostic, he sounds confused. The other day, he said he doesn't know whether he's a pantheist or a deist. Lol.

Maybe the word 'confused' is better.

Rilwayne001:

The thing is, he claimed to be rational. Of course we are all rational, but he took his own far by questioning the supernatural. And albaqir asked him a very pertinent question the other day. A question I wish he had answered but he didn't. Thankfully you are here now. And being one of his buddy and a respected bro here, you can be of help as well.

Exactly bro, we are all rational but rationality without guidance is futility. In Islam, it is both aql(intellect) in line with naql(Qur'an and sunnah).

Trying to use the brain to comprehend some supernatural events is akin to a person who is using a scale designed for measuring gold to measure mountain. No matter how perfectly made that scale is, it would give way because it has exceeded its capacity.

Our senses have their limits, the eye has its far point and near point. Same with the ear, there are sounds which the human ear can't hear and yet they exist.

The same is applicable to the brain, you can't rationalize everything. If you try to, then it's either misguidance or insanity.

Rilwayne001:

I had asked him to open a thread and tell us his predicament, but hitherto, he hasn't. Hopefully, this thread will do.

I am still expecting him here.

Rilwayne001:

Once again, welcome back brother. And please don't disappear as usual.

Thanks brother.

Lol, I would try not to disappear again

Rilwayne001:
Welcome back Lanre. Feels good to have you back.

He's not even an agnostic, he sounds confused. The other day, he said he doesn't know whether he's a pantheist or a deist. Lol.

Lol. It is normal for someone to be confused, this is a first stage thing, when he/she discover things are not adding up in what he/she believed in from childhood.

The thing is, he claimed to be rational. Of course we are all rational, but he took his own far by questioning the supernatural. And albaqir asked him a very pertinent question the other day. A question I wish he had answered but he didn't. Thankfully you are here now. And being one of his buddy and a respected bro here, you can be of help as well.

My rationality is to question everything, why won't I question the supernatural? How does Satan enter people's mouth when they yawn? Or pee pee in ones ear? How does Muhammed(SA) rode on flying horse to the sky but when told that Greek Gods rode on flying horse it will be rejected? Where did Adam and Eve lived, what's their skin color? How did we populated the earth from these two people? Why was Allah more active in ancient middle east? And many more questions that can't even be answered rationally.

I would like to know which question Albaqir asked which I didn't answer?

I had asked him to open a thread and tell us his predicament, but hitherto, he hasn't. Hopefully, this thread will do.

I'm still working on this. Stay tune.

emekaRaj:
Dat guy has been touched by evil forces... At this moment he is not confused he is more than confused, wats even more annoying is wen he is claiming to be rational, am like dude, do u even listen to urself, how can U claim to be rational with different confused thought.

The only help he can get is... A thourough RUQYA... Dats if it help.

As for me i care less.

Evil forces ko fairies forces ni, abi star wars forces abi power rangers forces. Were you not the one complaining seeing angels and jinns in a thread?

If I told you I saw fairies now will you believe me? What's ruqya for it? Let's see how rational you are.

I said it that Y'all in that thread are delusional and hallucinating, schizophrenia symptoms, y'all need to see a therapist.

Ruqya ko Rukka ni.

lanrexlan:


Exactly, some brothers are making things worse. Just name calling (ANAS, NAS et al). I don't know how that would help him.

Do you know that I'm already an apostate here, I've been stylishly placed fatwa for apostasy by a fanatic lord here.

Be sincere, what's the penalty for apostasy in sharia?

ayinba1:
@Lanrexlan

Do you know him personally? I mean off nairaland?

If not, I would suggest that you recall prior posters like Abdulsleek and maybe usermane. I may have noticed his more recent posts than his earlier ones which may have seemed genuine. Overall, May Allah grant him the best gift, Ameen

He is not impostor

Check his previous posts, in the late 2013 and years after. He's a Muslim

Allahumo ameen

tintingz:
Wow! My lovely brother Lanre is back!

I remember those days when you call me on phone just to check on me and ask about my well being. May Allah(SWT) continue his blessings on you.

Allahumo ameen, I pray the same for you akhee. May Allah make our feet firm on this path of Felicity.

tintingz:

I know you will be shocked about the sudden changes in my posts concerning Islam, well I'm still that tintingz, the Taiwo you know, I don't have any grudges with anybody here except does that insult me.

It's good to know you hold no grudges against anyone. In fact, it is a praiseworthy act in Islam. What I am worried about is how views and stances on issues.

I just hope with Allah's help, we can trash them out in sha Allah.

tintingz:

Well I've be reading a lot of books concerning all beliefs, religion, science, philosophy, psychology, history etc.

It is good to explore things, but it becomes problematic when one begins to give more priority to those things than divine scriptures.

tintingz:

I believe the brain was design for humans to reason and reason and reason deeply, there is nothing like "leading to the truth" in my ideology, everyone, every beliefs is claiming the truth. What's truth to you may not be truth to another.

You are right, our creator has given us intellect which make us more superior to every other being. It's true we must utilize and use our reasoning but in line with the scripture. Any reasoning without the revelation is zero.

Mawlana Jalaluddin Rumi said "Even a child's reasoning says 'Busy yourself with books'. But it is not possible for a child to learn anything from the book on their own.

Like so, the patient's reason brings them to a physician, but their reason cannot be a cure for them.

If every blabbermouth was to find a way to Allah's grace and favor, would Allah Almighty had sent all these prophets? That's to say, there's always a need for something to guide your path and as a Muslim, that's Qur'an and sunnah.

Sure, truth is relative. But there are UNIVERSAL TRUTH. Truth that are widely accepted by people. It's a universal truth that water is made up of 2 molecules of hydrogen and 1 molecule of oxygen.

It's a universal truth that sun rises in the east and set in the west and many other examples.

In the same vein, when it comes to the religious realm, there must a universal truth in which any religion/ideology claiming to be authentic must be able to prove.

Questions like;
Is there a supernatural being ??
What are his attributes?
What's the purpose of our creation?
Where do we go after our sojourn in life?

tintingz:

This is normal, to be worried about a brother that you loved by heart, thanks for that. I'm also worried about your absence for years in this section, I hope you're back for good.

Welcome back bro.

You are welcome akhee.

I also hope I am back for good. In sha Allah, I should be more active here once again. I was overwhelmed by activities in school.
Thanks dear brother.

tintingz:

My rationality is to question everything, why won't I question the supernatural? How does Satan enter people's mouth when they yawn? Or pee pee in ones ear? How does Muhammed(SA) rode on flying horse to the sky but when told that Greek Gods rode on flying horse it will be rejected? Where did Adam and Eve lived, what's their skin color? How did we populated the earth from these two people? Why was Allah more active in ancient middle east? And many more questions that can't even be answered rationally.

Seriously brother?

If your rationality is to question everything, then your other senses too must be able to see, hear, taste, and feel everything. Don't you think so?

As your eyes have their limits, so do your ears, and your intellect.
Stop thinking that the intellect is limitless.

If the eyes can see everything, why the need for microscope as an aid to see tiny little objects? Scientists have designed some equipments to enhance other senses but when will they invent a device that would enhance the brain to think deeper and question unseen things? That's why the Qur'an is there as a guide to see one through his voyage of reasoning and reflection.
To filter out the chaff from the grains.

Among the things that made you a Muslim is the belief in the unseen. Then how can you question something you don't see??

tintingz:
Do you know that I'm already an apostate here, I've been stylishly placed fatwa for apostasy by a fanatic lord here.

Be sincere, what's the penalty for apostasy in sharia?

It's like asking me what's the penalty for treason in any government?

Read this hadith

Sahih Bukhari (Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions - 124)

Narrated Anas, There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground).

Take a good look at the embolden words. Even the prophet didn't order that man should be killed, it was his time of death that came upon him.

There's freedom of religion but don't propagate falsehood against the religion and don't practice treason. If you are caught in any government, it's death.

That hadith people always quote is in isolation and not in context.

emekaRaj:
Dat guy has been touched by evil forces... At this moment he is not confused he is more than confused, wats even more annoying is wen he is claiming to be rational, am like dude, do u even listen to urself, how can U claim to be rational with different confused thought.

The only help he can get is... A thourough RUQYA... Dats if it help.

As for me i care less.

You care less about a Muslim 'battling' with his faith?

I am still coming to your thread though, still not understanding. Your thread looks like I don't even know

lanrexlan:
You care less about a Muslim 'battling' with his faith?

I am still coming to your thread though, still not understanding. Your thread looks like I don't even know

Perhaps U ar talking from the perspective of having known him b4, but theres nothing Muslim about that guy. U can go through his comments.
Someone dat doesnt believe in the unseen can't be a Muslim, because it also means u dnt believe in Allah subhanawataala who is unseen.

As for my thread that's my experience, and am sharing them, something everyone is scared of doin because of judgmental hostile attitude from the Muslim bro. But me am diferent, I dont giv a blip. I was opportune to hav met alot of Sheiks because of my experience, so I dnt tink i should care much about nairaland opinion.

U can hav a look at the thread it's for anyone who understand it. If u dnt, there's no much i can do.

lanrexlan:
It's like asking me what's the penalty for treason in any government?

Treason is a different case here, where the person tries to harm government by waging war, violence, being rebellious.

Religion on the other should be people's choice to practice or leave.

Read this hadith

Sahih Bukhari (Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions - 124)

Narrated Anas, There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground).

Take a good look at the embolden words. Even the prophet didn't order that man should be killed, it was his time of death that came upon him.

There's freedom of religion but don't propagate falsehood against the religion and don't practice treason. If you are caught in any government, it's death.

That hadith people always quote is in isolation and not in context.

There should be freedom of speech as long the person is not inflicting harms. E g in Saudi Arabia an atheist was killed lately for apostasy, there is no freedom of speech in that country.

lanrexlan:
Seriously brother?

If your rationality is to question everything, then your other senses too must be able to see, hear, taste, and feel everything. Don't you think so?

As your eyes have their limits, so do your ears, and your intellect.
Stop thinking that the intellect is limitless.

If the eyes can see everything, why the need for microscope as an aid to see tiny little objects? Scientists have designed some equipments to enhance other senses but when will they invent a device that would enhance the brain to think deeper and question unseen things? That's why the Qur'an is there as a guide to see one through his voyage of reasoning and reflection.
To filter out the chaff from the grains.

Among the things that made you a Muslim is the belief in the unseen. Then how can you question something you don't see??

Wow, this is great!

lanrexlan:
Seriously brother?

If your rationality is to question everything, then your other senses too must be able to see, hear, taste, and feel everything. Don't you think so?

As your eyes have their limits, so do your ears, and your intellect.
Stop thinking that the intellect is limitless.

Being rational is something you can prove, something that's base on fact, we can calculate 1,2,3. We all can see the moon but can we all see angels, jinns, ghost? Can we measure them? Even those that claim to see angels, jinns, demons, ghost are yet to prove it.

If the eyes can see everything, why the need for microscope as an aid to see tiny little objects? Scientists have designed some equipments to enhance other senses but when will they invent a device that would enhance the brain to think deeper and question unseen things? That's why the Qur'an is there as a guide to see one through his voyage of reasoning and reflection.
To filter out the chaff from the grains.

Scientists discover there are tiny objects, organism they developed a microscope to be able to examine it. But is there any evidence for spirits, supernatural entities? Scientists are still doing research on souls, spirits and am sure in the future there will be certain answers to it, a Muslim scientist even said it.

Quran is NOT is not the only book that talked about spirituality, supernaturals, there are thousands of books, and they are all contradicting.

Among the things that made you a Muslim is the belief in the unseen. Then how can you question something you don't see??

If I can't question what I can't see or feel, ear then how can one be rational about it?

tintingz:
Lol. It is normal for someone to be confused, this is a first stage thing, when he/she discover things are not adding up in what he/she believed in from childhood.

Very true. With what Lanre said up there, you have no option But to accept the fact that our intellect has limit.

My rationality is to question everything, why won't I question the supernatural? How does Satan enter people's mouth when they yawn? Or pee pee in ones ear? How does Muhammed(SA) rode on flying horse to the sky but when told that Greek Gods rode on flying horse it will be rejected? Where did Adam and Eve lived, what's their skin color? How did we populated the earth from these two people? Why was Allah more active in ancient middle east? And many more questions that can't even be answered rationally.

I would like to know which question Alb.aqir asked which I didn't answer?

What to you is the purpose of creation?

lanrexlan:
Allahumo ameen, I pray the same for you akhee. May Allah make our feet firm on this path of Felicity.

It's good to know you hold no grudges against anyone. In fact, it is a praiseworthy act in Islam. What I am worried about is how views and stances on issues.

I just hope with Allah's help, we can trash them out in sha Allah.

Ameen!

It is good to explore things, but it becomes problematic when one begins to give more priority to those things than divine scriptures.

There are thousands of divine scriptures.

You are right, our creator has given us intellect which make us more superior to every other being. It's true we must utilize and use our reasoning but in line with the scripture. Any reasoning without the revelation is zero.

Now @bolded, sounds irrational.

What's the treatment for malaria in the Quran, where is sickle cell in the Quran? What was the skin color of the first humans?

Mawlana Jalaluddin Rumi said "Even a child's reasoning says 'Busy yourself with books'. But it is not possible for a child to learn anything from the book on their own.

Like so, the patient's reason brings them to a physician, but their reason cannot be a cure for them.

If every blabbermouth was to find a way to Allah's grace and favor, would Allah Almighty had sent all these prophets? That's to say, there's always a need for something to guide your path and as a Muslim, that's Qur'an and sunnah.

Sure, truth is relative. But there are UNIVERSAL TRUTH. Truth that are widely accepted by people. It's a universal truth that water is made up of 2 molecules of hydrogen and 1 molecule of oxygen.

It's a universal truth that sun rises in the east and set in the west and many other examples.

In the same vein, when it comes to the religious realm, there must a universal truth in which any religion/ideology claiming to be authentic must be able to prove.

Questions like;
Is there a supernatural being ??
What are his attributes?
What's the purpose of our creation?
Where do we go after our sojourn in life?

- First of all was there any Prophet of Allah sent to the vikings, Eskimos? How then are they guided?

- There is NO universal truth in every religion, each are having stories, mythology of their divinity.

- The listed are yet to be proven.

You are welcome akhee.

I also hope I am back for good. In sha Allah, I should be more active here once again. I was overwhelmed by activities in school.
Thanks dear brother.

You're welcome bro and how're studies?

E be like this lanrexlan get plenty time to waste oo. Maybe because u just came back.

U will be the one to get tired, no mater how much u make sense he will just twist it the other way like d xtain do in here, it will go on an on like dat till u r tired, dnt just waste ur time.

Make una ask am wether he still prays five times daily first.

Rilwayne001:


Very true. With what Lanre said up there, you have no option But to accept the fact that our intellect has limit.

Yes our intellect has limit but it is evolving. Can you compare the intellect of the primitive people with modern people of today?

What to you is the purpose of creation?

We choose or create our purpose.

There's no certain answer to this as there are biilions of people on earth.

Two questions, are you a Muslim by choice?

What's the purpose of animals?

شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية رحمه اللّٰه: ﴿ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﺳَﺂﻭِﻱ ﺇِﻟَﻰٰ ﺟَﺒَﻞٍ ﻳَﻌْﺼِﻤُﻨِﻲ ﻣِﻦَ ﺍﻟْﻤَﺎﺀِ ﴾ [ ‏ﻫــﺬﺍ ﻋﻘــﻞ ] ﴿ ﻗَﺎﻝَ ﻟَﺎﻋَﺎﺻِﻢَ ﺍﻟْﻴَﻮْﻡَ ﻣِﻦْ ﺃَﻣْﺮِ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺇِﻟَّﺎ ﻣَﻦ ﺭَّﺣِﻢَ ﴾ [ ﻫـــﺬﺍ وحي ‏] ﴿ ﻭَﺣَﺎﻝَ ﺑَﻴْﻨَﻬُﻤَﺎ ﺍﻟْﻤَﻮْﺝُ ﻓَﻜَﺎﻥَ ﻣِﻦَ ﺍﻟْﻤُﻐْﺮَﻗِﻴﻦَ ﴾ [ ﻫـــﺬﻩ ﺍلنتيجـة ] فكل ﻣـﻦ ﻗـﺪّﻡ ﻋﻘﻠـﻪ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻧﺼـﻮﺹ ﺍﻟﻜﺘـﺎﺏ ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻨـﺔ الصحيحة ﻏـﺮِﻕ ﻓﻲ ﻇﻠﻤـﺎﺕ ﺑﺤﺎﺭ ﺍﻷﻫـﻮﺍﺀ ﻭﺍﻟﺒﺪﻉ وﻣـﻦ ﺗﻌــﻮﺩ ﻣﻌﺎﺭﺿـﺔ ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻉ ﺑﺎﻟﻌﻘـﻞ ﻻ ﻳﺴﺘﻘـﺮ ﻓـﻲ ﻗﻠـﺒــﻪ ﺇﻳـﻤـﺎﻥ ﺩﺭﺀ تعاﺭﺽ العقل والنقل (
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Conversation between Nuh and his son

he said (the son) :, "I will take refuge on a mountain to protect me from the water."
Ibn Taymiyya : This is brain

[Noah] said, "There is no protector today from the decree of Allah, except for whom He gives mercy."
Ibn Taymiyya: This is revelation

And the waves came between them, and he was among the drowned.
Ibn Taymiyya: This is the result (I. e result of using brain as against revelation)
Ibn Taymiyya continue : Anyone who put forward; his brain over the scripture and authentic sunnah, will perish in the ocean of desire and innovation and who so ever oppose Sharia with his brain, eeman will never have a seat in his heart....

Demmzy15:
For tintingz, I've given up already. The only thing I do personally is pray for him. For you to strike a conversation with him is a waste of time but you can try your luck maybe there can be changes!

Boda Demola, howdy?

emekaRaj:

E be like this lanrexlan get plenty time to waste oo. Maybe because u just came back.

U will be the one to get tired, no mater how much u make sense he will just twist it the other way like d xtain do in here, it will go on an on like dat till u r tired, dnt just waste ur time.

Make una ask am wether he still prays five times daily first.

Internet is also a problem when you have gotten him, he will quickly search internet to the orientalist sayings and he will tell you it is an openion

tintingz:
Yes our intellect has limit but it is evolving. Can you compare the intellect of the primitive people with modern people of today?

Definitely no. However we built mostly on ideas initiated by them.

We choose or create our purpose.

There's no certain answer to this as there are biilions of people on earth.

Perhaps you didn't get the question. I'm not asking you the purpose of man, rather I'm asking you the purpose of creation. That is, why were we created? All that exist today, how did they came to be?

Two questions, are you a Muslim by choice?

I was first a Muslim by birth, and by choice I chosed to remain a Muslim.

What's the purpose of animals?

The first question should be, how did all that exists came to be?, your answer here will be a pointer to the above .

Rilwayne001:

Definitely no. However we built mostly on ideas initiated by them.

Yes but not all. Was there anything like genotype, blood group in the past? Was human able to travel to the moon? Is it possible for humans to travel to sun in the future? The answer will be "we don't know yet" but don't be surprise if humans can get close to the sun in the future. Don't be surprise if humans can create a wormhole to alter the time or travel to past and future. What about does that change their body into another gender, was there anything like that in the past?

A machine has been built to preserve the human body, brain for years and wake you up in future, are you aware of that?
https://www.nairaland.com/3474999/14-year-old-girl-cancer-wins-right

Humans evolve, earth was said to be flat in the past until some greek scholars discover earth to be spherical.

Perhaps you didn't get the question. I'm not asking you the purpose of man, rather I'm asking you the purpose of creation. That is, why were we created? All that exist today, how did they came to be?

There are over thousands different answers to this. In China, Japan religion they believe their God created them and left just like deist God, atheist believe everything was by accident, Islam, Christianity, Judaism are similar but differ, Hindus, Buddah, pantheist, Yoruba religion and many other beliefs believe in reincarnation.

Do you believe Obatala created everything, if yes why? If No why?

I was first a Muslim by birth, and by choice I chosed to remain a Muslim.

Lol, do you think you will be muslim if you were born in China? So ofcos you will chose to remain a Muslim because it is something you have been doing from childhood, the fear of hell fire.

The first question should be, how did all that exists came to be?, your answer here will be a pointer to the above .

Like have said there are over thousands answers to this, where do you want us to start?