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Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:21pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:Sir, what makes an opinion Objective? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by CatfishBilly: 3:24pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem:Yes, male homosexuals stand more health risks. Of which I've explained the reason why. Female homosexuals do not. At least I've not seen any research to support that. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:25pm On May 22, 2017 |
kevoh:Ha! I am no way poke nosing. I am all for protecting my kids. Train up a child in the way he should grow and when he grows, he will not depart from it. I do not believe I will train my kids properly in the way of God and then they go ahead to commit incest. Question sir, do you see incest between two consenting adults as normal? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 3:26pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem:devoid of bias, sentiment and some emotions |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:27pm On May 22, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:If your answer is "yes" then 1 Like |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:29pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:So how do you know when an opinion is not biased or based on sentiment, is it when the majority goes by the same opinion? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by CatfishBilly: 3:31pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem:Now, your imagination is running wild. We are talking incest, sibling, cousins, not parents. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:32pm On May 22, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:You call that imagination? It is happening already. I guess you didn't see the first picture I posted. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 3:34pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: you listen to their reasons for having that opinion eg, many people support the death penalty but much less people would be inclined to support it if someone dear to them commits capital offense objectivity made them support it, subjectivity made them oppose it |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by kevoh(m): 3:47pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem:We all know the above is dead on arrival. There are many instances of kids even pastors kids who are well trained and turn out bad. So what will you do if after all the training and prayers, your child still turns out a homosexual? ilynem:The answer is already in your question. They have consented to it, irrespective of my opinion on incest. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:49pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:So basically you are saying that when the majority supports a thing, it is objective? For instance, majority does not support homosexuality including me. But the day I start having feelings for my fellow man, I might start to see it as OK. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 3:50pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: I made it clear that you listen to their reasons for supporting/opposing it |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:53pm On May 22, 2017 |
kevoh:So you will support your children if they turn out to be sexually attracted to each other? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 3:54pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:And how are you sure you the listener, your own sentiments or bias won't come to play? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 3:58pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: which is why we are having this kinda discussion you came with the opinion that homosexuality should be totally illegal, I've listened to your reasons and I've found nothing objective about your objection you gave a link to a forum which is just like someone using your posts as "proof", you gave another link of psychological problem and we've debunked that too cuz the link actually debunks itself, you talked about being at risk of STDs and Catfishbilly has given a medical explanation for such so my conclusion so far is that you've not been able to give any objective reason for your being against homosexuality that's how one listens without bias 1 Like |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Amberon: 3:59pm On May 22, 2017 |
I never insinuated the bolded. Homosexuality is a grevious sin according to Christianity. But other than that, morality tells us that it is totally wrong. It is audible to the deaf and visible to the blind that it is absolutely unnatural. Even science cannot prove that it is natural. And if you want to use the premise that it is natural since some animals exhibit such behavior then would you agree that killing of children by parents is right due to some animals also killing their offsprings? Pastafarian: |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by NigerianScholar: 4:00pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian: Naturally a penis is meant to go inside a vagina. But if a penis meets a penis, or vj to vj. There would be confusion. Then there is anal sex among homosexuals. But its not natural. Natural in the sense that sex if for pleasure, procreation and maybe other things. But you cant procreate with another person of the same gender |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by NigerianScholar: 4:05pm On May 22, 2017 |
kevoh: Religions aside. It is not natural |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 4:05pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:No no You didn't debunk " the link". I asked you and Mr catfish if dogs give consent to mate or whenever dogs mate with each other, its rape. None of you could answer because you know if they can consent to mate with each other, why can't they consent to mate with humans (who can give them orgasms). Now I brought incest into it and asked mr Catfish why incest is wrong and he said something about deformed offsprings. And I asked, if they decide not to have children, are we going to see incest as normal? Or fathers sleeping with daughters and mothers sleeping with sons as long as they are two consenting adults? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 4:07pm On May 22, 2017 |
NigerianScholar: I object totally you need to speak for yourself, there's apparently no "confusion" when they're having their homosexual act, if there was they wouldn't be homo bro, I mean is it that they intentionally chose " confusion "? I think the mistake you're making is that you're looking at this from your own perspective and making conjecture about how their sex would look like heterosexuals can also have anal sex I agree that they can't get pregnant and have children but if that's what they want they can always do ivf and other options |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 4:10pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: you asked if dogs can give consent and that's a pure No! the link you gave was a forum so that opinion still stands and when we say "consent" we mean consent between them and humans bro after all I see chickens give consent, don't be coy an animal cannot give consent to a human, if you have something to the contrary then let's hear it |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Amberon: 4:11pm On May 22, 2017 |
Wrong! They got their position through behavioral studies and surveys, not through any scientific work. CatfishBilly: Homosexuality is a mental disorder just like all other attractions to animals and in an I objects. The fact that it falls doesn't fall under those categories doesn't mean it isn't. I bet in a few years you would be asking why we can't accept people who sleep with animals after it is legalized in the USA. Men who sleep with men are homosexuals aren't they? Homosexuality is not a mental disorder, don't let your prejudice get the better of you. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 4:11pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:So when they want to mate with each other, do they give consent? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by NigerianScholar: 4:12pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: From a christian perspective. They can get tempted by satan and fall for that temptation From a logical perspective. What you are trying to say is all thieves,rapists,killers etc that happen to be christians didnt get trained properly in the way of God Back to the christian perspective. Peter rolled with jesus himself but denied him judas as well. Would you say they werent trained properly? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 4:14pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: you're gonna have to ask an animal veterinarian bro but one thing I'm sure of is that an animal can NEVER consent to a human you can drop links to where an animal consented to have sex with a human, what are those signs? and how did the human know that's a sign of consent? we shouldn't mix the two dog to dog and human to dog |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by CatfishBilly: 4:17pm On May 22, 2017 |
Amberon:What is scientific work? Explain the scientific process. Homosexuality is a mental disorder just like all other attractions to animals and in an I objects. The fact that it falls doesn't fall under those categories doesn't mean it isn't. I bet in a few years you would be asking why we can't accept people who sleep with animals after it is legalized in the USA.You still haven't told me the psychiatry textbook that says Homosexuality is a mental disorder. I think everyone can agree that psychiatry is the authority in mental disorders, not you. Men who sleep with men are homosexuals. Females who sleep with females are homosexuals, what's your point? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 4:21pm On May 22, 2017 |
NigerianScholar:From the christian perspective, out of 12, 1 faulted. There will always be a Judas. I am not arguing against that. I made that statement personal for reasons you will not understand so there is no need to go into that. Now from your "logical" perspective, if I bring up my child properly, chances are, he will not end up to be a nuisance to the society. That is why parents take their time to train their children, if not, why bother? So let me ask you sir, if your child grows up to be a thief, what will u do? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 4:23pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:And that is based on what research? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by Pastafarian: 4:26pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem: lack of evidence to the contrary if you have anything on animals consent to humans I would be happy to review my opinion |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 4:27pm On May 22, 2017 |
Sarassin:So why support homosexuality but bash incest? |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by ilynem(m): 4:32pm On May 22, 2017 |
Pastafarian:And there is also no evidence that animals can NEVER consent to sex with humans. So the answer is, we do not know. I really don't want to talk about the video I saw of a woman and a dog, but I think that's enough evidence in my eyes. Maybe you should try watching one of those videos. |
Re: Is This The Future? (photos) by NigerianScholar: 4:43pm On May 22, 2017 |
ilynem From the christian perspective, out of 12, 1 faulted. There will always be a Judas. Excellent - let us put this at about 9% Now from your "logical" perspective, if I bring up my child properly, chances are, he will not end up to be a nuisance to the society. That is why parents take their time to train their children, if not, why bother? Chances is the keyword. Like i said above. "I am not trying to say what your child will or wont become i am just trying to use some rough statistics to back up my point" Therell always be a chance that your child will become a nuisance to the society. Like i said above. 9% there can be a 9% chance your child will be a nuisance. And that small probability may become a reality no matter how well you train the child. Remember external factors also apple friends,neighbours,media,popular culture etc So let me ask you sir, if your child grows up to be a thief, what will u do? - GIve proper Counsel...i wont force him/her to be what he doesnt want to be. After the counsel amd if the child decides to be a thief. Ill allow it even though i wont be happy inside but the love i have for my child will still be there. know that rebellion is the product of coercion |
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