9jakool:

What do you think the Ancient Egyptians were?

I'm confident they were black before they were conquered by Alexander the Great, Persians and Romans. Even after that they were black, but there were also whites and black/white mixs.

Which specific blacks, we don't know for sure other than Nubians and Bejas.
Afars, Agaws and other Cushite peoples in Ethiopia, Eritrea and in general east of Africans may also be part of it. But I said, "may be".

What do you also think who were the Ancient Egyptians other than Nubians?

Kenyan Nights

Jay254:


Boss your Jelousy will kill you its clearly 25floors not including the dome... Nop our finishing is same as the render...

That was why I asked if the second is a render. If I go by what I counted in the second render, it is 25 floors.

That's why it is good you showed the pictures. It has 26 floors and the snapshot from the official website indicated 4 as basements.

Jay254:
Mombasa has more highrise than abuja,PH and Ibadan combined.. Forgiveness thanks for bringing in abenchmark..

Mombasa,Abuja and PH respectively

Not forgetting Mombasa is adding two skyscrapers...already top out

You testing the floor, huh!?

Now, I am busy. Will do the killing later.

Nowenuse:


Nubians had their own kingdom almost as powerful as Egypt, but i don't think there was ever a Pharaoh of ancient Egypt that was 100% nubian and stark black in complexion.
They were mostly brown in complexion (but still of the negroid race).

True, they had their own kingdom, but they also had an imperialistic expanse which led them to conquer Egypt around 6th century BC.

As for complexion, read up on the 25th dynasty buddy.

Nowenuse:


Nubians had their own kingdom almost as powerful as Egypt, but i don't think there was ever a Pharaoh of ancient Egypt that was 100% nubian and stark black in complexion.
They were mostly brown in complexion (but still of the negroid race).

Wenedem, 5 pure Nubians successively ruled Egypt as a pharaohs during of the 25 dynasty.

TayserMahiri:





We beat you hands down. Now they can close the thread

Good leason for the Nigerians.. Mod you can happly close the Thread.

There's no beating kenyan nights

9jakool:

True, they had their own kingdom, but they also had an imperialistic expanse which led them to conquer Egypt around 6th century BC.

As for complexion, read up on the 25th dynasty buddy.

LMAO, the guy is white. He's so pissed

TayserMahiri:

Could share with us the thread?

There you go bruh.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1775594&page=5

forgiveness:


You testing the floor, huh!?

Now, I am busy. Will do the killing later.

Was just using your site Emporium.

Now which one are we going to use next

forgiveness:


That was why I asked if the second is a render. If I go by what I counted in the second render, it is 25 floors.

That's why it is good you showed the pictures. It has 26 floors and the snapshot from the official website indicated 4 as basements.

Finally you get to admit.

Hati13:

Wenedem, 5 pure Nubians successively ruled Egypt as a pharaohs during of the 25 dynasty.

His issue is more with the blackness of those rulers, wenedem. He already knows that

NairobiWalker:


There you go bruh.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1775594&page=5

asante kaka

TayserMahiri:


His issue is more with the blackness of those rulers, wenedem. He already knows that

Ok!

kikuyu1:


Lies as usual! I know what my eyes have seen up close several. Tbh I've only seen Fulanis in pics and I admit facially they're on point THEY'RE ALMOST UNIVERSALLY FLAT. Your Southerners are better but only when compared to them-against Kenyans; no contest! Somalis have the biggest arse and a distinctive long waist,tbh both Kikuyu and Kamba women sometimes suffer square hips but they more often than not they have the donk.
The Naij female morphology seeme to favour bigger tilts than our women,though. Butmen,mature appreciate the rear.

Yes, Southern Nigerians thrash northern Nigerians in terms of physical endowment on average, especially the Yoruba women.
Nigeria's yoruba women can compete with any women in the world in terms of bustiness, curves and asses.

Igbo women are also very very beautiful facially and they are the only tribe in Nigeria or probably west Africa who can give the fulanis a run for their money when it comes to facial beauty (their large population also comes in here). They always dominate all the beauty pageants in Nigeria.
The Niger deltans share mixed features with Igbos and Yorubas and the first black miss world came from this region, and she is very slim. You know her, she doesn't need introduction.

This is why i told you that Nigerians come in different sizes, shapes and looks. No region really has a fixed look, due to centuries of intermarriage between the populace.

1) The most influential (arguable) yoruba actress (Omotola)
2) The most curvaceous Nigerian celebrity (arguable). Also yoruba. Toolz.

Hati13:

Wenedem, 5 pure Nubians successively ruled Egypt as a pharaohs during of the 25 dynasty.

Ok thanks.

forgiveness:


That was why I asked if the second is a render. If I go by what I counted in the second render, it is 25 floors.

That's why it is good you showed the pictures. It has 26 floors and the snapshot from the official website indicated 4 as basements.

.......and the hen comes back to roost. The trouble I went through explaining to this dude the different redesigns that led to LéMac increasing from the initial 22 floors 87m to current 26 floors 126m? lol. All I got were childish Buhahahas as some other idiot cheered him up. At least you've been humbled.

9jakool:

True, they had their own kingdom, but they also had an imperialistic expanse which led them to conquer Egypt around 6th century BC.

As for complexion, read up on the 25th dynasty buddy.

Ok.
The world always exhorts the ancient Egyptian history and always downplays the great Nubian history, why do you think this is so?

Where are you from in Nigeria (just curious).

9jakool:



In the 25th dynasty, Nubians from modern day (southern Egypt and Sudan) invaded Egypt from the South. In fact during their rule, the capital of the Nubians was moved from Egypt to Napata in the Nubian homeland. The Nubian language is not Cushitic but the most accepted language classification is Nilo-Saharan.
I'm not going to speculate what role the Afar and Beja played. But one thing is clear, the Nubians were the "Black Pharaohs" of Egypt in the 25th dynasty.

I thought Nubia and Egypt was separate for the most part, except that Egypt was alwaya invading Nubia?

Guys, 52 years old Ethiopian named Tedros Adhanom was elected now as the first African director of World Health Organization. Let's show those savage whites that we Africans can also compete.

TayserMahiri:
There's no beating kenyan nights

Wenedem, I'm very happy that your country is one of the cleanest and modern nation in Africa.

Kenya, pride of Africa!

fanficgirl:

I thought Nubia and Egypt was separate for the most part, except that Egypt was alwaya invading Nubia?

They were separated kingdoms, but during 6th century BC, Nubians invaded Egypt and Nubian ruled successively as a pharaoh of Egypt. Then they were driven out of Egypt after this dynasty and Egyptian pharaohs ruled for the last time until Alexandra the Great invaded Egypt. No true Egyptian ruler ruled Egypt until the 20th century.

Hati13:

I'm confident they were black before they were conquered by Alexander the Great, Persians and Romans. Even after that they were black, but there were also whites and black/white mixs.

Which specific blacks, we don't know for sure other than Nubians and Bejas.
Afars, Agaws and other Cushite peoples in Ethiopia, Eritrea and in general east of Africans may also be part of it. But I said, "may be".

What do you also think who were the Ancient Egyptians other than Nubians?

I think it's more complicated than that. I'm not going to definitively say that Ancient Egyptians were this or that. They've had mixed origins along the way. One thing for sure is they weren't Arab or Europeans, they were Africans. If we want to look at what the Ancient Egyptians were, then we need to look at the predecessor to the Ancient Egyptian civilization. I'm talking about the different Pre-dynastic cultures that started to arose near the Nile river valley when humans started farming, settling down, and forming cultures near the Nile. Some of the prominent pre-dynastic cultures around the area of Lower/Northern Egypt were Merimde, Faiyum A, and Maadi. In Upper/Southern Egypt you had more cultures like Badari, Naqada (including Gerzeh), Amratian.

These people have varying African ancestry. I'm going to use two very dominant culture in the area, the Naqada and the Bedari. For example, many artifacts from the Naqada culture tend to suggest that they were "black" in origin. Artifacts like Afro-hair pick which were used for course hair/afro hair were found at Naqada archaeology sites.


This is contrast to the Badari culture whose dental traits don't match up with the "modern black population" in Sub Saharan Africa. They match up closer with modern Berber populations in Northwest Africa. This isn't surprising considering that there are still Berber populations in Western Egypt around Siwa. In fact the pre-dynastic C culture around Northern Sudan and Lower Egypt is thought to be Berber in origin. This also plays into the theory that east Africa was the source of the Afro-Asiatic language before the languages branched off in the Westward direction to the Maghreb and West Africa and eastward direction to the Middle east.

What all of these tell me is that Ancient Egyptians were of mixed origin. This isn't surprising because the depiction of Ancient Egyptians tend to be different in skin tones with middle-brown skin tone being the most depicted. The Berbers(Mozabite) in Libya were portrayed as being too light in complexion in comparison to the middle Egyptian and the Nubians were portrayed as being too dark. Even with these, Egyptian murals also depict plenty of people with darker skin tones.

You also have human migrations as well, likely form the Middle east and Sub Saharan Africa.
Sure along the way you had the Assyrian, Greeks, Romans, and Arabs who also affected the genetics. Cleopatra is a prime example of that. Cleopatra is a Greek name and she was likely a product of admixture between Native Egyptian and Greek elements. This was what occurred in the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt. The Ptolemaic era witnessed a lot of Greek influence, the Egyptian and Greek ruling house came together. Foreign influence was the strongest in Northern/Lower Egypt than Southern/Upper Egypt.

Below are some of the artifacts from the Naqada culture. The last two picture show the evolution of Afro-Asiatic languages.

TayserMahiri:


I heard the whites knocked off the nose to erase any evidence of Africanness

I heard that too. But there are other features that still give it away like the slanting forehead and wide jaw bone, which I doubt is cushitic?

Side view

TayserMahiri:
Kenyan Nights

I see nothing here. Our entertainment industry is still far ahead of yours.

Meanwhile, concerts and what have you also take place in Nigerian. Nothing special. We have the best entertainers in africa afterall.

Nowenuse:


Ok.
The world always exhorts the ancient Egyptian history and always downplays the great Nubian history, why do you think this is so?

Where are you from in Nigeria (just curious).

I don't really know why. The Nubian history is very important to Egypt. Nubia was very powerful and important. Egypt just steals the cake when it comes to Africa, when there are tons of equally interesting cultures, kingdoms/empires and civilizations through out Africa. That's why you see ignorant people say that Africans other than Egypt didn't develop a system of writing. This is of course not true, but people who only learn about Egypt tend to think the rest of Africa is empty due to lack of information.

*Facts*
There are more Nubian pyramids than Egyptian pyramids.

fanficgirl:

I thought Nubia and Egypt was separate for the most part, except that Egypt was alwaya invading Nubia?

Yes, they were independent and both were constantly invading each other. Kush successfully took over Egypt for a while. This was the 25th dynasty.

Hati13:

They were separated kingdoms, but during 6th century BC, Nubians invaded Egypt and Nubian ruled successively as a pharaoh of Egypt. Then they were driven out of Egypt after this dynasty and Egyptian pharaohs ruled for the last time until Alexandra the Great invaded Egypt. No true Egyptian ruler ruled Egypt until the 20th century.

They were driven out by the Assyrians. The Assyrians, not Egyptians were the rulers in the 26th dynasty, then the Persians conquered Egypt and they ruled in the 27th dynasty.

Jay254:

Finally you get to admit.

I have always maintained that LéMac Tower is 26 floors but I pointed out that 3 out of the 26 floors are basement.

Even their website admitted it's so. So, what is this finally admit?

Please, go back few pages, you will see my posts on this. It is not hidden.

Nigerians have the best, most beautiful and exotic social gatherings and halls in Africa.
@Taysermahiri, mtis, muafrika2

Can we find anything like this in Kenya or among Kenyans?

Muafrika2:

I heard that too. But there are other features that still give it away like the slanting forehead and wide jaw bone, which I doubt is cushitic?

Side view

One of the Napoleons sent revisionist historians and history terrorists to knock off the very African nose of the sphinx!


The French!!!


I left this thread in page 687, i have alot of catching up to do. I think this thread is a definite top 10 for nairaland this year.