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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 2:49pm On May 23, 2017 |
battleaxe: Plenty of protection I am paranoid - I have 125 Amp on each battery connection - +Ve and +Ve https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Systems-MRBF-Terminal-Blocks/dp/B071H9NL9G After that A combiner switch with 250 Amp DC fuse on +Ve and 150 Amp MCB on -Ve ( The mCB alo stops my systym from Feeding more than 8 KW in oveload cases - ) See attached photos 1 Like
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 2:53pm On May 23, 2017 |
Thanks Pranil, very detailed response. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 3:13pm On May 23, 2017 |
[quote author=pranil post=56800640][/quote] Software by order of prefrance ICC - http://iccsoftware.co.za/ Lucibus - http://www.lucibus.com/( end May) and OLD verison -http://www.homoandroidus.com/forum/ - Inverter control , Hostory ,s ttings Additional peripherals to switch on and off specific loads based on production /SOC and web browser interface on any phone tablet Watchpower( official) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO1Oskf3HHA - Download from Any vendor site also comes on CD with inverter - Msut for changing some settings Solarmon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiBDnjGH5Oc - GREAT dashboard buggy . Don't think it is supported anymore, can't find the download link. Website is closed - http://www.solarmonitor.co.za/ SolarPatrol Great program used it for quit a while, stable, USB & rs232 support, great built-in timer to turn on and off inverter - Download Link: http://www.energialternativa.info/public...Patrol.rar SolarMon ACDC power monitor never used it but seems a fair effort has gone into it. Website : http://www.acdcpowermonitor.com/Default.aspx Video review : 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 3:22pm On May 23, 2017 |
pranil: Thanks a lot for the detailed response. Indeed that Axpert series of inverters are hugely popular in most OECD countries like Australia and South Africa. I would be considering them now so that I can join the club of cool kids with their cool wall mounted Inverters. I just wished the pure inverter units without the charge controller bits are also sold in Nigeria |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 3:26pm On May 23, 2017 |
pranil: You mean MPP solar and Voltronic are one and the same? I thought there were different companies |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 6:25pm On May 23, 2017 |
thanks for your compliments...welcome to the family and feel free to ask questions and contribute as well...remain bless. mcTrinity: 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 6:31pm On May 23, 2017 |
Yes i can confirm must power inverter self consumption is about 100w, I have one and i have measured. Powering a few energy saver bulbs with mustpower is like using a plant to run a TV... ![]() ![]() earthrealm: 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 6:32pm On May 23, 2017 |
MPPT is better. Is like comparing gas vs stove ![]() ![]() ![]() As for setup parameters, go with the default settings for now while you learn how things work. you dont want to destroy your batteries ![]() emmaniche: 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 6:36pm On May 23, 2017 |
The inverter looks cool indeed however i may join the band wagon after ur experience ![]() bigrovar: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 6:48pm On May 23, 2017 |
bigrovar: Considering you get charge controller , Inverter and AC charger in one unit at the price of only Charge controller from Outback or Midnight solar it does not mater if you don't use some of the parts |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 6:54pm On May 23, 2017 |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 6:55pm On May 23, 2017 |
bigrovar: YES Voltronic is the OED - MPP SOLAR makes some of the units based on their design in Taiwan and gets boards for some specially the CE marked units of grid tied inverters for Europe I guess ss . For a long time I also thought MPP Solar was the OEM but then when I ordered remote display unit from MPP SOLAR ( Zinox does not sell it in Nigeria) I noticed the box it cam in carried Voltronic label - I guess they forgot to remove it On close inspection even the PC is marked with Voltronic . Considering the history , and product lines it is anybod'ys guess who is the actual maker . By the way the reason MPP solar is so much mentioned on the forums is that the company has horrible support in technical. They refuse to support you without getting serial no Picture from you. Now I know whay they want to support only their own products and not solt by voltronic to other CKD unit sellers . |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:02pm On May 23, 2017 |
All my units in one picture Ignore the wiring mess. Installing new monitoring software on my Raspbery Pi 2 Likes
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:14pm On May 23, 2017 |
Barezzi: I have used Prag , Sukam, Mpower etc at sometime of other and also familiar with Hight end units like SMA , Schinder etc. Unless netmetering becomes legal in Nigeria it does not make sense to spend r times the money on AC coupled system with attend losss of efficiency I am basically running the two inverters full time in DC mode with the Third inverter and solar keeping the battries topped up. via NEPA or 7.5 KVA DG . The way it is setip is the load is divided in following priority - if one is not sufficient the next source is used to make upo the shortfall Solar , NEPA , Gen, Battery Apart from the High end systems ( mainly german) I have not come across any budget inverters which give you power sharing options . In the price of one Conext XW 6848 I can buy 6 to 7 units of Axpert with paralleling , remote monitoring and have cash to spare ![]() Now if NEPA becomes 65 Naira per unit and you decide to go completely offgrid with the whole house including conditioning , pumping , water heaters etc. or DISCO's allow you sell excess Solar then it is different story 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 7:44pm On May 23, 2017 |
I love your setup Pranil. If i can lay my hands on a monitoring software like that of Justin Case, I'd be sold... I just love his dashboard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAwG9VtvSGE |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bodeface: 8:22pm On May 23, 2017 |
chris81964: @ chris81964 Dr Sola, I appreciate your reply to my inquiries, I have been able to figure it out, I have posted the solution also on this forum, however I will keep the contact fmight be useful in the future. Thanks. I have been able to resolve this, for the record purpose while using the Schneider Conext SW4024 Inverter built-in charger only to charge the battery without solar installation with external charge controller, in the setup parameters while commissioning the unit you must adequately define the battery parameters and more importantly you must ensure that the right charging rate for battery is calculated and represented by the right percentage setting under the Charge rate parameters, otherwise you will be having F49 fault (DC Over Voltage), which might take you a while to figure it out. bodeface: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 9:34pm On May 23, 2017 |
![]() ![]() PRINTED SOLAR STRIPS
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 9:44pm On May 23, 2017 |
can someone shed more light on "PRINTED SOLAR STRIPS" It expected to replace the present poly & mono solar panels considering price and performance in low light conditions (including at night) present cost/price is $7 per square meter. market entry is in 18months. can gurus speak on this emerging trend which will soon be embraced by millions of electricity starved worldwide. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 1:49am On May 24, 2017 |
Barezzi: You can do same with emoncms. see my dashboard variations - You can configure it your way in half an hour once the basic setup is running The yellow one is for my kids and wife . They know very well based on battery charge status when to use TV or washing machine etc. The moment the pointer is in Orange they swtichoff non essential stuff such as AC , TV , etc. 3 Likes
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 7:36am On May 24, 2017 |
I have two units of the ipowerplus; a 1KVA model and a 3KVA model. The 1kva model has an idle consumption of 20W. I'll test the 3kva today and give you the value. bigrovar: 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 7:44am On May 24, 2017 |
My 1kva unit very conveniently powers my fridge (130w) plus two cieling fans (150W) and 6*30W CFL as well at 29inch led tv. My 3kva also conveniently power my scanfrost microwave oven. I have a sneaky feeling about the inbuilt mppt too though. kiekie1: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 7:55am On May 24, 2017 |
Have you tried watchpower software. I have never been able to get it to work on both my 1kva and 3kva ipoweplus inverters. pranil: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by battleaxe: 9:15am On May 24, 2017 |
@pranil, thanks for modifying an earlier note you wrote. Was easier to grasp afterwards. Will the below work ![]() |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babaegun(m): 9:35am On May 24, 2017 |
pranil: @Pranil Love your Raspberry Pi setup and beautiful dashboard. Could you guide or point me to a place I can setup something similar for Fangpusun/Outback. Thanks as I await your feedback. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 10:11am On May 24, 2017 |
dejidotun2000: Yes both all type of connections, Serail , USb and even connected to my remote display unit no issues . Can confirm that Zinox also uses it at many locations Are your inverters serial ( the cable is like network cable at inverter end and DB-9 -9pin Serial ) The you will need a genuine Serial to USB converter - in My experience the prolific PL 2303 chipset works without problems . See the link For inverters after 2016 they are both serial and USB - Use the cable that came with inverter https://www.amazon.com/Trendnet-TU-S9-USB-Serial-Converter/dp/B00BL697VA |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 10:17am On May 24, 2017 |
babaegun: Unfortunately they do not have open protocol that I am aware . EMONCMS uses JSON calls on the API . Google srecah turned up nothing . I got fed up with crappy software and shoddy practice of charging extra for remote monitoring by mainly USA based manufacturers like morningstar and extremely to shift to Chinese stuff . I have a ATS from company called powergen - Costs 73 USD only but comes with full windows software and remote monitoring. Anything close to that from established brands is upwards of 500 USD. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 10:38am On May 24, 2017 |
battleaxe: You are wiring it slightly wrong Unless I am reading it incorrectly . Can you mark the MCB coil and power inputs separately .If following is not clear I will draw it time permitting in next few days and send it MCB has total 6 terminals Say A1, A2 - Coil terminal Allows the MCB to become on when supplied with 230 V PH ( A1) and N ( A2) Terminal L1 and L2 are NO rated to carry Nominal rated current at AC -7B duty Terminal L3- L4 are NC rated to carry Nominal rated current at AC -7B duty Please remember there is no Make before break so You cannot use this as changeover otherwise it might short inverter i/P and o/P for a sustained arc on inductive loads like motor Only one of them can be used - based on your usage scenario For your case one primary contactor will be needed on Grid side to avoid short circuit |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chris81964(m): 10:41am On May 24, 2017 |
efuro: Thank you bros. I did a new one today. Happier face today. I was able to run my 2 hp pumping machine for 5 minutes with only 400 watts coming from my PV. It is recovering slowly. I am not doing with them what I did with my T105's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDj5yNsRcTI |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 11:00am On May 24, 2017 |
bigrovar:I use the Gennex brand. 3kva type. Good efficient inverter with very poor inbuit CC (MPPT). My instantaneous harvest on the inverter from a 1.4kw thin film panels usually range from 500-700watts compared to 1.2-1.4kw when i was using a standalone 60amp EPsolar MPPT CC. Almost worse than a PWM CC. I horribly busy lately with no time to tweek my system otherwise................. By the way, i have checked my wiring, nothing loose! |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 11:36am On May 24, 2017 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 1:06pm On May 24, 2017 |
please gurus..... panel specs 250w poly (Sunshine solar) Vmp- 29.5v Imp- 8.47A Voc- 35.5v CC specs Epever eTracer 60A Auto voltage (150v max) currently, 8 of those panels are connected in 4x2 configuration on a 3.5kva/48v inverter with 400ah battery bank capacity is the configuration safe for the CC?? or should I ask the client to get one more panel and do 3x3 configuration? I've recorded 134v on the CC around 8am thanks guys |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 1:43pm On May 24, 2017 |
I have a similar experience. I never see more than 270watts even at midday with 600watts installed capacity. Wiring and panels checked out fine too. durodee: |
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