forgiveness:



I have always maintained that LéMac Tower is 26 floors but I pointed out that 3 out of the 26 floors are basement.

Even their website admitted it's so. So, what is this finally admit?

Please, go back few pages, you will see my posts on this. It is not hidden.

Naaah its 26floors from first floor.. Who the hell counts floors of abuilding from basement

9jakool:

I don't really know why. The Nubian history is very important to Egypt. Nubia was very powerful and important. Egypt just steals the cake when it comes to Africa, when there are tons of equally interesting cultures, kingdoms/empires and civilizations through out Africa. That's why you see ignorant people say that Africans other than Egypt didn't develop a system of writing. This is of course not true, but people who only learn about Egypt tend to think the rest of Africa is empty due to lack of information.

*Facts*
There are more Nubian pyramids than Egyptian pyramids.

I wish the present north Sudan govt and people can adopt attitudes and practices that allows them to study/acknowledge their pre Islamic heritage with the same or equal respect majority Muslim Egypt does to its own. At least Egyptians understand that they are the descendants of multiple people's and heritages and they eschew extremism in their religious practices I like the Egyptian attitude towards life and modernity, and especially the tolerance of religious expression (well that's under threat nowadays ). Instead, north Sudan have adopted a Wahhabist view of the world, what a shame esp considering their own history as being once Christian.

Nairobi

Karen Country club

Only in Nigeria

Kenyans can only dream of exotic and elaborate social gathering halls like this!

Nowenuse:
Nigerians have the best, most beautiful and exotic social gatherings and halls in Africa.
@Taysermahiri, mtis, muafrika2

Can we find anything like this in Kenya or among Kenyans?

Nowenuse not to be rude but this glassy thingy ya showing kinda boring..show us stuff like what Tayser posted

Nigerians are so Afro-centric and we are proud of it.

Instead of us to spend money on tea and blanket parties like Kenyans, we rather spend on being African in social gatherings.

Nowenuse:
Nigerians are so Afro-centric and we are proud of it.

Instead of us to spend money on tea and blanket parties like Kenyans, we rather spend on being African in social gatherings.

Good for you guys then .and its not tea and blanket dude

mtis:

Nowenuse not to be rude but this glassy thingy ya showing kinda boring..show us stuff like what Tayser posted

Yes, it will look boring to you because Kenyans do not promote their cultures (they don't have one, sorry 2say).

It would be embarrassing for me to post Nigerians in tea and blanket gatherings. We are not Europeans, we are Africans!
Why must we always be the ones to copy the Europeans in everything?

Nowenuse:


Yes, it will look boring to you because Kenyans do not promote their cultures (they don't have one, sorry 2say).

It would be embarrassing for me to post Nigerians in tea and blanket gatherings. We are not Europeans, we are Africans!
Why must we always be the ones to copy the Europeans in everything?

The last photo are they Nigerians too

MtuMsuper:

I wish the present north Sudan govt and people can adopt attitudes and practices that allows them to study/acknowledge their pre Islamic heritage with the same or equal respect majority Muslim Egypt does to its own. At least Egyptians understand that they are the descendants of multiple people's and heritages and they eschew extremism in their religious practices I like the Egyptian attitude towards life and modernity, and especially the tolerance of religious expression (well that's under threat nowadays ). Instead, north Sudan have adopted a Wahhabist view of the world, what a shame esp considering their own history as being once Christian.

I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel face racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.

9jakool:

I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel face racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.

True an same goes for Somalis..they love kissing Arabian assess like i dont know..

9jakool:

I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel fa.ce racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.

Arabization will be their downfall. They can be Muslim, yes, but skin colour doesn't lie. You don't see Indian or Pakistani Muslims claiming arabness. Or even Indonesians and Iranians, yet all are majority Muslim. The saddest part is when so many of their customs, foods and mannerism as soooo African. I believe they are the sick man of both Africa and the Middle East!

9jakool:

I think it's more complicated than that. I'm not going to definitively say that Ancient Egyptians were this or that. They've had mixed origins along the way. One thing for sure is they weren't Arab or Europeans, they were Africans. If we want to look at what the Ancient Egyptians were, then we need to look at the predecessor to the Ancient Egyptian civilization. I'm talking about the different Pre-dynastic cultures that started to arose near the Nile river valley when humans started farming, settling down, and forming cultures near the Nile. Some of the prominent pre-dynastic cultures around the area of Lower/Northern Egypt were Merimde, Faiyum A, and Maadi. In Upper/Southern Egypt you had more cultures like Badari, Naqada (including Gerzeh), Amratian.

These people have varying African ancestry. I'm going to use two very dominant culture in the area, the Naqada and the Bedari. For example, many artifacts from the Naqada culture tend to suggest that they were "black" in origin. Artifacts like Afro-hair pick which were used for course hair/afro hair were found at Naqada archaeology sites.


This is contrast to the Badari culture whose dental traits don't match up with the "modern black population" in Sub Saharan Africa. They match up closer with modern Berber populations in Northwest Africa. This isn't surprising considering that there are still Berber populations in Western Egypt around Siwa. In fact the pre-dynastic C culture around Northern Sudan and Lower Egypt is thought to be Berber in origin. This also plays into the theory that east Africa was the source of the Afro-Asiatic language before the languages branched off in the Westward direction to the Maghreb and West Africa and eastward direction to the Middle east.

What all of these tell me is that Ancient Egyptians were of mixed origin. This isn't surprising because the depiction of Ancient Egyptians tend to be different in skin tones with middle-brown skin tone being the most depicted. The Berbers(Mozabite) in Libya were portrayed as being too light in complexion in comparison to the middle Egyptian and the Nubians were portrayed as being too dark. Even with these, Egyptian murals also depict plenty of people with darker skin tones.

You also have human migrations as well, likely form the Middle east and Sub Saharan Africa.
Sure along the way you had the Assyrian, Greeks, Romans, and Arabs who also affected the genetics. Cleopatra is a prime example of that. Cleopatra is a Greek name and she was likely a product of admixture between Native Egyptian and Greek elements. This was what occurred in the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt. The Ptolemaic era witnessed a lot of Greek influence, the Egyptian and Greek ruling house came together. Foreign influence was the strongest in Northern/Lower Egypt than Southern/Upper Egypt.

Below are some of the artifacts from the Naqada culture. The last two picture show the evolution of Afro-Asiatic languages.

Thanks for the great details!
So, we need to consider Ancient Egyptians as many multi ethnic peoples.

Do you know the descendants of the many people you stated above other than Berbers?

Looking for your last 2 photos you posted, Afro-Asiatic originated in Ethiopia. But others are saying, it was originated in the Mediterranean area. And the central Cushitic(Ethiopia) isn't present in the map.

Hati13:

Wenedem, I'm very happy that your country is one of the cleanest and modern nation in Africa.

Kenya, pride of Africa!

Kenya is very modern but for cleanliness, I am not so sure. I would give that to the Island nations like Seychelles.

Talking of pride of Africa, we had Africa in mind when we emblazoned our airline.

Security forces perform drills every once in a while since Westgate

9jakool:

They were driven out by the Assyrians. The Assyrians, not Egyptians were the rulers in the 26th dynasty, then the Persians conquered Egypt and they ruled in the 27th dynasty.

Sorry for my mistake.
So, it means there was no native Egyptian rulers after Nubians invaded Egypt until the 20th century.

Muafrika2:

I heard that too. But there are other features that still give it away like the slanting forehead and wide jaw bone, which I doubt is cushitic?

Side view

If only the Sphinx could talk! It is very African, I see characteristic features of the Nubians.

mtis:

The last photo are they Nigerians too

No, they are not Nigerians but are proud to identify with Nigerian culture and gatherings.
Some of them came for marriage like these ones.

MtuMsuper:

One of the Napoleons sent revisionist historians and history terrorists to knock off the very African nose of the sphinx!


The French!!!


I left this thread in page 687, i have alot of catching up to do. I think this thread is a definite top 10 for nairaland this year.

Why were those French insecure? Did they fear Africa that much?
Umekuwa wapi mzee wa kazi

Nowenuse:


I see nothing here. Our entertainment industry is still far ahead of yours.

Meanwhile, concerts and what have you also take place in Nigerian. Nothing special. We have the best entertainers in africa afterall.

Social gathering halls?? lol, man. Those are conference facilities. And you don't wanna try kenya on that one too. We have them in countless numbers

Nowenuse:
Only in Nigeria

Kenyans can only dream of exotic and elaborate social gathering halls like this!

Don't try on that one. We will flatten you officially.

MtuMsuper:

Arabization will be their downfall. They can be Muslim, yes, but skin colour doesn't lie. You don't see Indian or Pakistani Muslims claiming arabness. Or even Indonesians and Iranians, yet all are majority Muslim. The saddest part is when so many of their customs, foods and mannerism as soooo African. I believe they are the sick man of both Africa and the Middle East!

Sudanese always seem lost as far as identity is concerned.

mtis:

Good for you guys then .and its not tea and blanket dude

Are you now trying to deny your tea & blanket parties??

Kenyans trying to be more European than the Europeans.

Nigerians rather remain African and spend lavishly in promoting Afro-centrism

TayserMahiri:


Don't try on that one. We will flatten you officially.

I dare you!

TayserMahiri:


Social gathering halls?? lol, man. Those are conference facilities. And you don't wanna try kenya on that one too. We have them in countless numbers

No, they are mostly for social gatherings in Nigeria.

Nowenuse:


I dare you!

The field is yours for now. Will post soon am abit busy

Taysermahiri l would visit Nairobi someday, of course l believe it's a nice place to be, but you're also very ignorant about Lagos, watch this video to learn a little. There are other nice places such as Portharcourt, Enugu, Calabar, Kano, warri, Benin, etc. Enjoy this video of Lagos, you can post that of Nairobi too of course.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DO-YiOvZuzAg&ved=0ahUKEwikjOy-34bUAhWDDSwKHepUCN8QtwIIHDAA&usg=AFQjCNGyaWT4__yQiEkhCB8jWu5SPY8QTw
Disclaimer.. I'm not saying there's no Makoko slum in Lagos or some low income areas there ( even WizKids' ojuelegba music video describing his struggles is a testament to that) but there's also a Lagos that is not easily reported by the media.

TayserMahiri:


Kenya is very modern but for cleanliness, I am not so sure. I would give that to the Island nations like Seychelles.

Talking of pride of Africa, we had Africa in mind when we emblazoned our airways.

Security forces perform drills every once in a while since Westgate

Oh good!
The equipments of your soldiers are modern and the training drills looks impressive. Is this why the terrorist acts in Kenya declined recently, if there was any for the past one year?

I've heard good about your airlines. Our airline had been named the best in Africa for the past 5 consecutive years. Do you personally think, your airline should have won the award during those 5 years?

Nowenuse:


Yes, it will look boring to you because Kenyans do not promote their cultures (they don't have one, sorry 2say).

It would be embarrassing for me to post Nigerians in tea and blanket gatherings. We are not Europeans, we are Africans!
Why must we always be the ones to copy the Europeans in everything?

the bleaching is too much o

TayserMahiri:




Now I get it. Don't tell me you speak Dutch?

I know kenyans have a very good reputation abroad even before Obama, unlike our Nigerian brodas . Our hospitality and sports have been positive to the world. Now we even have senators in Ausie and Germany! When we start doing well in ice hockey I dont know what will happen.

There are lots of Nigerians that has given us good reputation abroad.


First black major in Ireland
Four Nigerians are members of British parliamentary
Appointed minister in UK
Major in London
First African jurist to be elected as the president of international court of justice Hague.


Too many

forgiveness:



There are lots of Nigerians that has given us good reputation abroad.


First black major in Ireland
Four Nigerians are members of British parliamentary
Appointed minister in UK
Major in London
First African jurist to be elected as the president of international court of justice Hague.


Too many

lolll most great black achievement abroad was achieved by Nigerians

freshest4live:
Taysermahiri l would visit Nairobi someday, of course l believe it's a nice place to be, but you're also very ignorant about Lagos, watch this video to learn a little. There are other nice places such as Portharcourt, Enugu, Calabar, Kano, warri, Benin, etc. Enjoy this video of Lagos, you can post that of Nairobi too of course.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DO-YiOvZuzAg&ved=0ahUKEwikjOy-34bUAhWDDSwKHepUCN8QtwIIHDAA&usg=AFQjCNGyaWT4__yQiEkhCB8jWu5SPY8QTw
Disclaimer.. I'm not saying there's no Makoko slum in Lagos or some low income areas there ( even WizKids' ojuelegba music video describing his struggles is a testament to that) but there's also a Lagos that is not easily reported by the media.

Nyyc, bro I aint ignorant about Lagos. I liked that video. I would also love to visit someday.