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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by maxiuc(m): 8:05am On May 24, 2017
noeloge82:

I don't think he bought a good product
Mazda products a very good and d parts are very cheap compared to toyota and d likes

I have a Mazda 626 for 10yrs now I can tell u that the car is very economical maintainance wise and even fuel wise when compare to my Toyota corolla which is just 3yrs now
I said this modern days Mazda aren't strong enough I wasn't referring to 80s and 90s brand of mazda

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:06am On May 24, 2017
noeloge82:

That's what I was told when I wanted to but my 626 , 10yrs ago and uptill date I have never worked on my engine I only service it once in 3 months

We are talking of modern day cars, not monuments grin

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by noeloge82(m): 8:09am On May 24, 2017
GAZZUZZ:


We are talking of modern day cars, not monuments grin

It will be better to bring a 2014 Mazda and a 2014 Toyota and comparevside by side cos the 626 and corolla I compare are same ur

So if u have used both current brands pls give us ur experience so that both brands will have fair comparison

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by VanBommel(m): 8:14am On May 24, 2017
Nigerians like to follow anything that is trending cos it makes them believe that that's the best thing after jollof rice and also to inflate their ego. If you're on the island you'll see a lot of Mercedes Benz cars and you'll be wondering if it's now cheaper than toyota products. Mazda is a very good product, although I'm not driving one presently cool

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Nobody: 8:15am On May 24, 2017
I currently drive a Mazda 6 Touring (2006) and i have had to replace the entire engine once (even though I've had it for less than 3 months because the pistons blew out on me on the highway. I've had 4 Toyotas (Cotollas and Camry) prior to this Mazda and none of them ever failed me (well except the Camry '07) which also had it's piston rings wearing out thereby burning oil but it never crashed unlike Mazda. Im defo going back to Toyotas after this one

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Nobody: 8:16am On May 24, 2017
Only an uninformed and clueless motorist would underrate a Mazda.

MX5/Miata
RX7
MazdaSpeed
Rotary Pickups

The list is endless.

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by nams77: 8:18am On May 24, 2017
Alitair:
grin

My brother go to port harcourt especially rumuola and its environs, you would have no second thoughts about getting a mazda except you want to start transport business.
Oga the thing surprise me. Immediately I drove into bayelsa enroute to Port Harcourt, Mazda 323 was just like oxygen or simply put, like MTN..Every where you go. I lost count of how many I saw there. Maybe next time I will have a chat with them.
I was just reading the sorrowful tale of Mr airborne02 on NL and his 323f. I was following his thread and even rejoiced when he bought it, only to hear the sad tale. And I was even liking this relatively less talked about brand
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Reference(m): 8:18am On May 24, 2017
Acidosis:
...because Nigerians are highly judgemental sets of people, who rather than make their own evaluation, rely on public opinions.

I don't own one, but most Mazda owners don't complain about maintenance, unlike Honda (many of whom visit all kinds of Mechanics on a bi-monthly basis).

Mazda cars are also relatively durable and more affordable. An example is Mazda MPV versus Toyota Siena.

Not offering anything but sir you don't own one, accuse Nigerians of being 'highly judgemental, relying on public opinion', then read what you wrote after that..... my oh my. How did you arrive 'when you DON'T OWN ONE..... the same public opinion. C'mon man.

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Nobody: 8:18am On May 24, 2017
GAZZUZZ:


We are talking of modern day cars, not monuments grin

Bros, this thing that you're doing is not good o grin

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Alitair(m): 8:20am On May 24, 2017
nams77:

Oga the thing surprise me. Immediately I drove into bayelsa enroute to Port Harcourt, Mazda 323 was just like oxygen or simply put, like MTN..Every where you go. I lost count of how many I saw there. Maybe next time I will have a chat with them.
I was just reading the sorrowful tale of Mr airborne02 on NL and his 323f. I was following his thread and even rejoiced when he bought it, only to hear the sad tale. And I was even liking this relatively less talked about brand
can u share the link abt the 323f?
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Olushauneddy(m): 8:21am On May 24, 2017
In dis part of d world I live, 90% of d cars with pulled tyres - broken suspension on d roads are HONDA.

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Reference(m): 8:21am On May 24, 2017
mrsirdam:
I currently drive a Mazda 6 Touring (2006) and i have had to replace the entire engine once (even though I've had it for less than 3 months because the pistons blew out on me on the highway. I've had 4 Toyotas (Cotollas and Camry) prior to this Mazda and none of them ever failed me (well except the Camry '07) which also had it's piston rings wearing out thereby burning oil but it never crashed unlike Mazda. Im defo going back to Toyotas after this one

Hmmmm....trying to form PUBLIC OPINION based on one car, one incident....
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Kobicove(m): 8:26am On May 24, 2017
Generally speaking Nigerians don't like one-in-town cars whose spare parts are difficult to source except if they have a lot of money to 'burn' grin
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by aolawale025: 8:27am On May 24, 2017
The reputation of a brand is built over a period of time. While toyota is known for toughness. Honda for fuel economy. Mazda is yet to be known for something.

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by AutoElectNG: 8:28am On May 24, 2017
1. Mazda is a smaller car company compared to Toyota and Honda. This means that Mazda does not have the deep pockets that Toyota and Honda have.

2. This led to a long-term collaboration between Mazda and Ford so that Mazda could leverage on the research and development financial and technical resources of Ford.

3. Ford forced Mazda to use certain engines and certain transmissions. This included the poorly designed and ill-fated CD4E transmission that come with the Mazda 626 automatic and the MX-6.

4. Around the late 1990s and the early 2000, this ill-fated transmission caused so many failures of Mazda 626 automatics and Mazda MX-6s that Mazda's image was terribly dented.

5. Affected vehicles included Mazda 626, Mazda Tribute and Mazda MX-6.

6. Other issues included transmission abuse by users who tried to exploit the zoom zoom that Mazda promised to the fullest.

7. Inadequate and ineffective cooling secondary cooling for a transmission with inadequate cooling ducts in the very first place. A race car has beefed up cooling and brakes amongst others, racing the Mazda to achieve the zoom zoom without beefing it up was a recipe for its failure in several instances, but the brand was blamed and not the users who erred.

8. Mazda focuses on cars built for performance/enthusiasts, Toyota focuses on budget and value (every Tom, Dick and Harry).

9. Market perception that Toyota's are more reliable and durable while Mazda's are more fun to drive, think of it as the poor man's performance brand, but Nigerians prefer reliable over and above fun to drive.


10. However, Mazda since 2013 is no longer the product of a collaboration between Mazda and Ford, but Mazda all alone, so Mazda can decide in its best interests and not because of the financial, legal and technical considerations due to its tie to Ford. Therefore a distinction needs to be made when judging Mazda between Mazda's pre-Ford, Mazda's with Ford and Mazda's post-Ford when analyzing the brand.

11. The disproportionate influence of so-called trusted mechanics on vehicle choice who may be more biased and less-educated than the general public who depend on them actually realize .

If you want specifics, I can back up all the above points.

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by pesoXL(m): 8:34am On May 24, 2017
Alitair:
grin

My brother go to port harcourt especially rumuola and its environs, you would have no second thoughts about getting a mazda except you want to start transport business.

lol all those Rumuola - Choba drivers that treat cars without respect .

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Nobody: 8:38am On May 24, 2017
Reference:


Hmmmm....trying to form PUBLIC OPINION based on one car, one incident....
Well that's my opinion and that's my experience...so did you really have to drop a comment?
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Nobody: 8:41am On May 24, 2017
autosina:
Was surfing the net few days ago and realized the sportiness of Mazda car designs over Toyota and Honda models, and I wonder why Nigerians aren't patronizing them.
The one below even has the face of a BMW 3 series.
I think generally, Mazda isn't as reliable as Toyotas and Hondas, that's why
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by makizee(m): 8:41am On May 24, 2017
Mazda...oh...my dad's first car, like someone said, perceptions of Nigerians just don't favour Mazdas right now and the sins of some of their problematic older models, Mazda has greatly improved though...check Kelley blue book page and other auto sites and see how recent mazda models stack aginst the likes of honda, toyota and nissan...they have really uped their game, even beating these better known brands in some parameters.

The new Mazda 6 is so agile ehn...better looking that many in it's class. Besides we like to go for the popular brands here, see how other noddles companies are struggling to compete against Indomie noddles, even Dangote had to bow !

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by HITTED(m): 8:44am On May 24, 2017
hayjayman:
Mazda for life anywhere I dey...Toyota and Honda are over hyped in this part of the world....you will get to some more developed countries, and you will ask yourself if toyota and Honda ever existed at all.only in africa.....my Mazda 626 has never left me stranded on rhe Road where I see bonnets of Honda and Toyota almost in every traffic of lagos...
The day it will leave you stranded you will look for the parts and you will not see any. Toyota reigns supreme.
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Wamiwa: 8:46am On May 24, 2017
Olushauneddy:
In dis part of d world I live, 90% of d cars with pulled tyres - broken suspension on d roads are HONDA.

My brother I dey fear buy Honda cars because of this issue. grin
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Tinyemeka(m): 8:48am On May 24, 2017
Much lower second hand value compared to Toyota.

I guess that should be an advantage to second-hand buyers.
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by jibbish(m): 8:49am On May 24, 2017
Pls break it down
AutoElectNG:
1. Mazda is a smaller car company compared to Toyota and Honda. This means that Mazda does not have the deep pockets that Toyota and Honda have.

2. This led to a long-term collaboration between Mazda and Ford so that Mazda could leverage on the research and development financial and technical resources of Ford.

3. Ford forced Mazda to use certain engines and certain transmissions. This included the poorly designed and ill-fated CD4E transmission that come with the Mazda 626 automatic and the MX-6.

4. Around the late 1990s and the early 2000, this ill-fated transmission caused so many failures of Mazda 626 automatics and Mazda MX-6s that Mazda's image was terribly dented.

5. Affected vehicles included Mazda 626, Mazda Tribute and Mazda MX-6.

6. Other issues included transmission abuse by users who tried to exploit the zoom zoom that Mazda promised to the fullest.

7. Inadequate and ineffective cooling secondary cooling for a transmission with inadequate cooling ducts in the very first place. A race car has beefed up cooling and brakes amongst others, racing the Mazda to achieve the zoom zoom without beefing it up was a recipe for its failure in several instances, but the brand was blamed and not the users who erred.

8. Mazda focuses on cars built for performance/enthusiasts, Toyota focuses on budget and value (every Tom, Dick and Harry).

9. Market perception that Toyota's are more reliable and durable while Mazda's are more fun to drive, think of it as the poor man's performance brand, but Nigerians prefer reliable over and above fun to drive.


10. However, Mazda since 2013 is no longer the product of a collaboration between Mazda and Ford, but Mazda all alone, so Mazda can decide in its best interests and not because of the financial, legal and technical considerations due to its tie to Ford. Therefore a distinction needs to be made when judging Mazda between Mazda's pre-Ford, Mazda's with Ford and Mazda's post-Ford when analyzing the brand.

11. The disproportionate influence of so-called trusted mechanics on vehicle choice who may be more biased and less-educated than the general public who depend on them actually realize .

If you want specifics, I can back up all the above points.
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by pesoXL(m): 8:52am On May 24, 2017
makizee:
Mazda...oh...my dad's first car, like someone said, perceptions of Nigerians just don't favour Mazdas right now and the sins of some of their problematic older models, Mazda has greatly improved though...check Kelley blue book page and other auto sites and see how recent mazda models stack aginst the likes of honda, toyota and nissan...they have really uped their game, even beating these better known brands in some parameters.

The new Mazda 6 is so agile ehn...better looking that many in it's class. Besides we like to go for the popular brands here, see how other noddles companies are struggling to compete against Indomie noddles, even Dangote had to bow !



I totally agree man! Remember when St. Louis ruled the sugar business for decades? Why do we still call general detergents 'OMO'? is all toothpaste really 'Close Up'? we consume based on recommendation, and most times there's no competition at all.

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by LastProphet: 8:53am On May 24, 2017
mazda has the same issue as nissan, they make very good looking cars but the high end ones are not durable at all. if u want to enjoy mazda dont buy anything with auto transmission, V6, etc, buy the simple ones like 323 and you are fine. If u buy any high end mazda u will change the gear box more times than u ever think possible

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by Tinyemeka(m): 8:54am On May 24, 2017
AutoElectNG:
1. Mazda is a smaller car company compared to Toyota and Honda. This means that Mazda does not have the deep pockets that Toyota and Honda have.

If you want specifics, I can back up all the above points.

Thanks for the analysis.

What's your opinion on the reliability of '05 Mazda MPV compared to Toyota Highlander '03 model please?
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by hayjayman(m): 8:54am On May 24, 2017
HITTED:

The day it will leave you stranded you will look for the parts and you will not see any. Toyota reigns supreme.


Bro, mazda will still push you home or to the nearest workshop before looking for parts around, and meanwhile I don't think I have ever been to the market and find it unable to get a mazda part I'm looking for....and meanwhile mazda is known to tolerate some parts from other brands, you know what I mean...

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Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by nams77: 8:56am On May 24, 2017
Alitair:

can u share the link abt the 323f?
I iam no computer geek.lol im still learning how to use the features on NL but if you type his name on the search column. It will bring up some of his thread, you can then go to his homepage to see that particular thread where he was requesting for a car worth 400k and the second thread about engine replacement.
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by AreaFada2: 8:56am On May 24, 2017
noeloge82:

I don't think he bought a good product
Mazda products a very good and d parts are very cheap compared to toyota and d likes

I have a Mazda 626 for 10yrs now I can tell u that the car is very economical maintainance wise and even fuel wise when compare to my Toyota corolla which is just 3yrs now

Not everyone is so lucky.

I sent a Tokunbo Mazda 626 Coupe to 9ja like 20 years ago. It was mechanical superb driving it around in the West. But in 9ja, not single moment of peace. Whether the mechanics didn't know what to do I do not know. It was eventually sold. Phew! That was the end of Mazda for me.
Whereas the Mitsubishi I gave a family member lasted forever.

But to be fair, a friend who took home a 626 Sedan at same time used it for next 9 to 10 years nicely. Because he was returning home for good. To use it along side other cars sha.
Re: Why Are Mazda Cars Underrated by luciouscookie: 8:58am On May 24, 2017
PaperLace:

Thanks Sir.

Now you know, that I know, that you know, that I know him that well...
(repeat it 10 times and win 1 mazda 626 grin )
grin

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