vantage001:

America does not work like that. A president is not allowed to settle his voters at the expense of others. If it tries it, that is a direct abuse of presidential power and he could be impeached.
Obamacare is not a function of voters. It is not a question of white or black voters as the health policy has supporters and haters in both race.
Get informed.

Do you think if Hillary had won Obamacare will suffer same fate it's suffering?

You putting words in my mouth.
I didn't say "settle his voters"
Obviously, what Trump is doing with Obamacare and the Executive Order he gave was in tandem with his campaign promises.

Don't tell me majority of Americans that voted against Trump are at part with abolishing Obamacare and Trump's Executive Order on Immigration


I'll advise you get enlightened, the world IS a global village.

u see this fool he won sell he pple bcus cup of bean .Jonathan when do every thing for the north d north contribute one thing to he first tenure. buhari is not a leader a leader is not selective

Okoyiboz3:




You disgraced moderator with the scruples of an alley cat, On 27th of August 2011, you made the comment below. I wonder how you manage to sleep at night with your atrocious history.




Please, go through this thread below. Igbo posters were calling Yoruba leaders names because they met GEJ in a civilised manner to complain about deliberate sack of yorubas and replacing them with other ethnicities.

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan



The problem of Igbos is that they cannot survive without the Federal Government. Their support for GEJ over Buhari was a political miscalculation due to political illiteracy. Over the years, they have supported other people even to the detriment of Igbo candidates. That is why Ojukwu couldn't get 3M votes from Igbos when he contested Nigeria's presidency.

wait wait wait o
the ppl u say cant survive without fg na im una dy beg mke em no do biafra?
heck even d hausas were stopped by britain from seceeding cause dy knew dia actions in dia coup meant flat out war

the problem i have with nigerians is the tyranny of public opinion. yes the igbos didnt vote for him and are at liberty to keep quite or shout to the heavens, na dem get their mouth. but come to think of it must everybody vote a candidate?
but can ngige truly point to what this govt has done for those who invested in them. What benefit is there in his community to show that this govt is good to them? is the cost living better for those who voted for GMB? Infact those who didnt vote GMB have every cause to celebrate, they are not part of those who brought the calamity being experienced
politics is choice and nobody sud lose sleep over another persons choice

Afam4eva:
For those who don't understand what Ngige said. He says that politics is a business venture and if you don't invest in a business, you shouldn't expect dividends. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what has befallen our so called democracy. We can no longer exercise our democratic rights without being punished for it.

God bless u

Leez:

wait wait wait o
the ppl u say cant survive without fg na im una dy beg mke em no do biafra?
heck even d hausas were stopped by britain from seceeding cause dy knew dia actions in dia coup meant flat out war

Who's begging who?
Chai! Una sabi fool Nna self eh!

slivertongue:
the problem i have with nigerians is the tyranny of public opinion. yes the igbos didnt vote for him and are at liberty to keep quite or shout to the heavens, na dem get their mouth. but come to think of it must everybody vote a candidate?
but can ngige truly point to what this govt has done for those who invested in them. What benefit is there in his community to show that this govt is good to them? is the cost living better for those who voted for GMB? Infact those who didnt vote GMB have every cause to celebrate, they are not part of those who brought the calamity being experienced
politics is choice and nobody sud lose sleep over another persons choice

All in good time.


Read this post from a friend's wall

vantage001:

Goodluck with your 97%. Ii hope that makes you better than the average igbo on your street.

LOL i don't care as far they continue being marginalized.. hahah..

[quote author=ayindejimmy post=56868647]

Do you think if Hillary had won Obamacare will suffer same fate it's suffering?

You putting words in my mouth.
I didn't say "settle his voters"
Obviously, what Trump is doing with Obamacare and the Executive Order he gave was in tandem with his campaign promises.

Don't tell me majority of Americans that voted against Trump are at part with abolishing Obamacare and Trump's Executive Order on Immigration


I'll advise you get enlightened, the world IS a global village.
[/quote
Obamacare is a question of ideals, not necessarily voters. You are juxtaposing your backward Nigerian politics on american system.
He is not against obamacare because some people don't want it. He is against it because his ideals does not tally with obamacare.
That is what america politics is- a battle of ideals.
If you don't want obamacare removed, you already know before the elections that trump is not the man for you and you already know who to vote for.
Besides, the removal of obamacare is targeted towards all americans. Not some specific favourable regions like the $1.6billion train project in Nigeria.
Such cannot happen in america where the president allocates more federal funding for critical infrastructures to states or regions because they voted for him. He IS NOT A CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR, HE IS PRESIDENT.

mayordj4real:
I have just one question for you. Why didn't the Igbos agitate for Biafra when Jonathan was in power?

i really hope u're joking
so BIM and ipob jonathan wisely ignored were sleeping abi?
hpe u heard of d bim radio invasion in 2013

DrGoodman:


There is a subject called History. Go and study it.

Well my history did not tell me Igbo left Nigeria then, it only say Ojukwu run to Ivory Coast leaving his people to die like chicken..

I had wanted to say that Ngige had a wrongful perspective to his view of politics even though some element of it was that u need to apply diplomacy in managing ur" enemies" in politics but when i saw this post from 2011, i now know that people are of short, very short memory and selfish

Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Sunofgod(m): 8:47am On Aug 27, 2011
Yoruba Elders Meet Jonathan To Complain About Marginalisation - Smh

Written by Leon Usigbe, Abuja
Friday, 26 August 2011

PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan met with a delegation of the Yoruba Council of Elders (YCE), led by Major-General Adeyinka Adebayo (retd), in the State House, on Thursday, as the leaders complained about being left out in the top six posts in the country.

The delegation also demanded for the dissolution of the Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC), which they observed had been unable to fulfill the objectives of its establishment, while also asking for action of the deplorable roads in the South-West.

But responding to their requests, President Jonathan said he was concerned about adherence to the principle of federal character and the zoning formula adopted by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and he had tried to ensure that no section of the country was left out in the scheme of things by accommodating them in the subsequent appointments he had made.

According to him, “the issue of federal character and position, especially those political offices, were quite worrisome to me, but we had to achieve political balancing and federal character.

“That is why this thing you describe as zoning was to make sure that every zone should be represented in the one you describe as top six, but for some political reasons, it was not possible. But on my own, in terms of appointments, I tried to see that the way appointment was made, you will agree with me that the appointments we have made so far did not exclude any section.”

He promised that he would not preside over a government that would margninalise any section of the country.

Jonathan lauded the role of Yoruba elders in the 2011 presidential election, which enabled the PDP to win in the South-West saying that the success was made possible because of the leadership.

On the request for the dissolution of the NDDC, Jonathan said though there were many complaints about the commission, it could not be dissolved because it was made up of management and staff.

Jonathan restated his commitment to ensure that things were done differently in the country, adding that corrupt officials would no longer be allowed to go scot free, while outstanding performers would be rewarded.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/27267-yoruba-elders-meet-jonathan-over-marginalisation
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Sunofgod(m): 9:03am On Aug 27, 2011
GEJ should have just chased them out of the room.

Why even answer their questions.

SMH
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Afam4eva(m): 9:11am On Aug 27, 2011
Why do they want NDDC to be scrapped?
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Sunofgod(m): 9:15am On Aug 27, 2011
afam4eva:

Why do they want NDDC to be scrapped?

Reading between the lines the want the money given to the NDDC diverted for the improvement of roads in the SW.

Crazy dudes,
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by chino11(m): 9:31am On Aug 27, 2011
This is a welcome development, the Yorubas should be effectively and perpetually marginalized and schemed out, because they deserve worst things also. What did they achieve for their rotten Yoruba states during wasted years of the baboon called Obasanjorijo Useless and woe tribe. They should step up the complaint, GEJ will as usual and as always mess them up. They forgot that Tinubo sold them out for a pot of 'ewodu', the same way their foolish leaders sold out abioala to the almajiris to be slaughtered.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Rgp92: 9:43am On Aug 27, 2011
Stvpid Elders. undecided They should fix yorubaland instead of complaining.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Rgp92: 9:46am On Aug 27, 2011
FFS, im i the only one who see GEJ as a Nigerian instead for ijaw? undecided
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Desola(f): 9:52am On Aug 27, 2011
Apejopo awon Asinwin.

Yoruba haters of Nairaland,inc.

Awon asinwin aburo were.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by MrGlobe(m): 9:58am On Aug 27, 2011
RFLMAO at chino. Una no go kill person for hia. Yorobaa, the most selfish tribe in Nigeria?
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by mbatuku1: 10:26am On Aug 27, 2011
I thought they were cool with regionalism?

Desola:

Apejopo awon Asinwin.

Yoruba haters of Nairaland,inc.

Awon asinwin aburo were.

I've never seen a bush Yoruba girl like you. Are you sure you're not remotely 'ijebu' or grew up there? For a born and bred Lagosian to be this crude? I fear o.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by PointB: 11:30am On Aug 27, 2011
@Topic,

If Yoruba feel marginalised, they should hold ACN responsible for siding with Tambuwal to deny them of the House Speakership slot. GEJ did all he could, but the myopic ACN leaders decided to sell to the highest bidder - the IBB-Atiku backed Tambuwal.

'I dey laff oooo,' says Obasanjo who did not deem is necessary to fix any road during his 8 year tenure, but wanted a third term!

Me too I dey laff ooo, but in marginalisation grin grin grin grin
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by aljharem(m): 11:41am On Aug 27, 2011
this people are funny u know. Just i thought this people want to eat there cake and have it again

they all voted for ACN thus they want regional government ie fedralism

yet they still want the advantages of being in the mainstream politics

abeg make them go sit down angry

when it is time they should go meet tinubu there master
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Rgp92: 11:52am On Aug 27, 2011
alj harem:

this people are funny u know. Just i thought this people want to eat there cake and have it again

they all voted for ACN thus they want regional government ie fedralism

yet they still want the advantages of being in the mainstream politics

abeg make them go sit down angry

when it is time they should go meet tinubu there master

Alj harem, shut up. Go help your useless brother in north instead
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by aljharem(m): 11:56am On Aug 27, 2011
Rgp92:

Alj harem, shut up. Go help your useless brother in north instead

you see that is the problem, how does this relate to the topic ?
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Afam4eva(m): 12:03pm On Aug 27, 2011
Al_harem has spoken the truth. You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center.So, states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by mbatuku1: 12:09pm On Aug 27, 2011
Rgp92:

Alj harem, shut up. Go help your useless brother in north instead

He's a yoruba man like you.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by aljharem(m): 12:16pm On Aug 27, 2011
afam4eva:

Al_harem has spoken the truth. You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center.So, states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized.

gbamm

mbatuku1:

He's a yoruba man like you.

where did you get that from ?
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Johndoe100(m): 12:16pm On Aug 27, 2011
alj harem:

this people are funny u know. Just i thought this people want to eat there cake and have it again

they all voted for ACN thus they want regional government ie fedralism

yet they still want the advantages of being in the mainstream politics

abeg make them go sit down angry

when it is time they should go meet tinubu there master

I don't usually agree with you but on this you are correct.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Rgp92: 12:53pm On Aug 27, 2011
mbatuku1:

He's a Yoruba man like you.

Don't insult my people bro :/ He's not a Yoruba. He's half Igbo half kanuri.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Rgp92: 12:59pm On Aug 27, 2011
alj harem:

this people are funny u know. Just i thought this people want to eat there cake and have it again

they all voted for ACN thus they want regional government ie fedralism

yet they still want the advantages of being in the mainstream politics

abeg make them go sit down angry

when it is time they should go meet tinubu there master

Who vote ACN? :O
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Desola(f): 1:13pm On Aug 27, 2011
mbatuku1:

I thought they were cool with regionalism?

I've never seen a bush Yoruba girl like you. Are you sure you're not remotely 'ijebu' or grew up there? For a born and bred Lagosian to be this crude? I fear o.

Abiipabe omo yaluba.

You think because your yeye gypsy people came to infiltrate my land, you will successfully influence us too? Lagos is a Yoruba man's land and not one yeye okoro cosmopolitan city wey una tink say every tin go go.

By the way, the Ijebus you speak of are one of the most enlightened and educated people in the whole of Africa and your people; lumped together, cannot hold a torch to them!
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by ak47mann(m): 1:33pm On Aug 27, 2011
Yoruba people go and look for another brother to sell for cheap bargain na2day grin
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Rgp92: 2:03pm On Aug 27, 2011
ak47mann:

Yoruba people go and look for another brother to sell for cheap bargain Na2day grin

stop generalising tongue Not all yoruba are like this. . .
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by buffny: 2:42pm On Aug 27, 2011
chino11:

This is a welcome development, the Yorubas should be effectively and perpetually marginalized and schemed out, because they deserve worst things also. What did they achieve for their rotten Yoruba states during wasted years of the baboon called Obasanjorijo Useless and woe tribe. They should step up the complaint, GEJ will as usual and as always mess them up. They forgot that Tinubo sold them out for a pot of 'ewodu', the same way their foolish leaders sold out abioala to the almajiris to be slaughtered.

its ur bastard father that is useless. .
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by hercules07: 7:36pm On Aug 27, 2011
These are not our leaders, we know who our leaders are, these ones are PDP guys that lost out in the elections, we yorubas just want true federalism.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by chino11(m): 7:39pm On Aug 27, 2011
buffny:

its your bastard father that is useless. .





Foolish man, why are you angry with me, why not go and face your useless yorooba leaders that keep taking bribe from the ordinary almajiris to sell you guys out to the highest bidder. Shameless tribe. Its a sin to be yaroba
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by chino11(m): 7:41pm On Aug 27, 2011
hercules07:

These are not our leaders, we know who our leaders are, these ones are PDP guys that lost out in the elections, we yorubas just want true federalism.


Then sit on the poo with your nonsense federalism and stop bugging the whole nation with your alleged marginalization.
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by udezue(m): 7:51pm On Aug 27, 2011
Show of shame
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by seanet02: 8:48pm On Aug 27, 2011
[size=40pt]Case of people like Orji kalu calling Himself Ibo leader[/size]
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by uchenana: 9:04pm On Aug 27, 2011
seanet02:

Case of people like Orji kalu calling Himself Ibo leader

it has nothing to do with igbo or orji
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by aloyemeka2: 9:08pm On Aug 27, 2011
uche nana:

it has nothing to do with igbo or orji

He is on your side afterall na fellow Igbo hater like you. Are you so tribalistic and anti Igbo that you can't even recognize those on your side?
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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by uchenana: 9:12pm On Aug 27, 2011
aloy-emeka:

He is on your side afterall na fellow Igbo hater like you. Are you so tribalistic and anti Igbo that you can't even recognize those on your side?

i think u are sick in the brain just like ur name suggest emeka

how am i an igbo hater

this one na real ode, onya ara
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It worries me when people that know better but rather because of crumbs choose to twist the tenet and intent of democracy. Democracy is not about who vote for who but who emerges to champion the very essence of democracy. Nigeria is where she is today because of undemocratic utterances of the so-called leaders who give democracy a different meaning.

ayindejimmy:


Who's begging who?
Chai! Una sabi fool Nna self eh!

well ur brodas are certainly anti biafra and cry more dan d bereaved ie more than d hausas
so yea u lot are begging for one nigeria
apart frm una evry oda region at a point or anoda wanted out of ds union

vantage001:

Pls how do i move with our territory that will not warrant a repeat of 1967? Because your army is still shooting innocent people that attempted to move even in 2017.
You can vote for the devil you like. That is not my concern.

You are asking me how to move? really.. ...dont U have elders, are ur ppl not in d govt, governors, senators, have u discuss, and reach a conclusion first?

You think u can get on d street, and start disturbing d peace of d nation, calling ppl names, and yet feed from them.. .

Rest in peace in advance to those about to join other fools in d name of protest. ....

gabicon:


Politics is business everywhere in the world if you doubt it go ask the democrats about Obama care. Politics is about interest pure n simple.

..Before you disgrace yourself,have it in mind that the political wranglings in America is different from the mess your Nigeria is doing in the name of politics..

..Donald Trump is not denying groups like black or muslims Medi-care or any amenities because they didnt vote, for him,while doing the opposite to white because they voted for him...I can assure you on that.

..What you and your lame co-horts are doing is why Africa is in turmoil all the time...You guys will never learn untill its too late..

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Haha!
This is exactly where I want you to arrive at Mr Americana
So, in line with your logic, can you now tell us in what manner this Buhari government's policies are lopsided against the East?
And which of his policies has ethnic or religious colouration?

jst imagine ngige.how can u confirm ur paymasters scam in public relating d a govt admin. as bussines enterprise.sorry if am apc I wont pay u.hw on earth can u convince a rat at s.E tommorow to vote ur paymts.hw can apc win again der since its loose and die all unless on bloody rigging.as for ur people what else can dey do u if nt blindness.im sorry u re an irrate father ur sons wont share in dis.

This blind short fool is constantly having blackout it's obviously he is very sick hungry idiot.

Afam4eva:
For those who don't understand what Ngige said. He says that politics is a business venture and if you don't invest in a business, you shouldn't expect dividends. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what has befallen our so called democracy. We can no longer exercise our democratic rights without being punished for it.

but Buhari is making heavily use of South East Money from Oil to develop North but cried they never voted for him.
Is that not hypocricy?

Ngokafor:



..Before you disgrace yourself,have it mind that the political wranglings in America is different from the mess your Nigeria is doing in the name of politics..

..Donald Trump is not denying groups like black or muslims Medi-care or any amenities because they didnt vote,while doing the opposite to white..I can assure you on that.

..What you and your lame co-horts are doing is why Africa is in turmoil all the time...You guys will never learn untill its too late..

Can you please, tell us how this government policies are lopsided against the Igbos?

Because your erroneous opinion of this government and the hilarious propagandas you're Fed with are poles apart with obvious realities and verifiable facts on ground

ayindejimmy:


Do you think if Hillary had won Obamacare will suffer same fate it's suffering?

You putting words in my mouth.
I didn't say "settle his voters"
Obviously, what Trump is doing with Obamacare and the Executive Order he gave was in tandem with his campaign promises.

Don't tell me majority of Americans that voted against Trump are at part with abolishing Obamacare and Trump's Executive Order on Immigration


I'll advise you get enlightened, the world IS a global village.

....The Obama you lots are ignorantly trumpeting affects poor whites as well,.Its mote of a structural and ideological issue..US politics is not the same primitive politics you lots support and encourage here.
...America and her politics are billion years ahead of the rubbish practice you lots call 'politics' in Nigeria...Stop comparing 'politics' in US to Nigeria..its a sacrilage

sapele914:
You are correct,please tell me how many notable democrats and Latinos are in Donald Trumph's administration?and also tell me any position any other tribe from the Niger Delta other than ijaws held under Goatluck Jonathan?petroleum(ijaw),Niger Delta ministry(Ijaw)Amnesty(-jaw),Nimasa(Ijaw),local content(Ijaw),Chairman nddc (Ijaw)NSA before dasuki(Ijaw) chief of army staff(Ijaw),pipeline monitoring contract tompolo and friends (Ijaw)and so many more,all notable positions for the Niger Delta under the last administration were given to ijaws,maritime university land that the itsekiri's have a good claim to was proclaimed to be ijaw land and given to tompolo and other ijaws to sell,please tell me one Urhobo,itsekiri or isoko man they made anything?Systematic marginalization of other Niger Delta tribes and empowerment of ijaws, you hear us shout?

so ihejirika,amosun,dambazzau,oduah were ijaw?wow who knew?

Alariwo2:
Alas.. one reasonable one

You can't reap where you didn't sow.. It's simple law of nature.
And not just Buhari, even me as a human won't regard them with their vote pattern.

Igbos are just pained that they can't hijack PMB's govt. like they did with the useless ineffectual buffoon. Quote me anywhere.
I said it long ago so I'm not surprised. It's their way

but Buhari is making heavily use of South East Money from Oil to develop North but cried they never voted for him.
Is that not hypocricy?

Ngokafor:




....The Obama you lots are ignorantly trumpeting affects poor whites as well,.Its mote of a structural and ideological issue..US politics is not the same primitive politics you lots support and encourage here.
...America and her politics are billion years ahead of the rubbish practice you lots call 'politics' in Nigeria...Stop comparing 'politics' in US to Nigeria..its a sacrilage

Do we have the same culture with Americans? Is America the foundation of democracy?
American youths lack respect, are violent and the law encourages same sex marriage.

Sadly, those are values we don't embrace in our culture... It may be imitated by some renegade Nigerians living there, but you dare not bring it home.

So every country will design democracy to fit the manner of people in that country.
After all, the people deserve the kinds of leaders they get.
When Nigerians decide to act right, we'll get good democracy, and unfortunately, along with it will come other vices

It is so unfortunate that if you dont vote for a particular candidate no dividend will come to your area if he/she wins, we have descended badly low as a country

DrGoodman:
We are not complaining, we just want our own country. Two different things.

EmekaBlue:
Shatap u outcast ...D igbos r agitating for their own state now not involving in this ur super failed administration

Then pack your bag and move to your village.

See your mouth I didn't even vote but as a citizen you vote on choice not rallying on sentiment

MMMscam:


Everybody else will take your agitations for Biafra seriously when you scavenging parasitic hypocrites migrate back to the south east. We don't want igbos again in the north and south west. You parasites have done enough damage. If igbos truly want Biafra, then all the Igbos should go back to the south east and we will release and unchain your tribe from being our national slaves and give you freedom. Until your tribe does that, your agitations are nothing more than a schizophrenic floccinaucinihilipilificated dance of a mad man at a market square, and you will remain 3rd-class citizens as long as "One Nigeria" exists. In fact, 4th-class citizens because even the SS people carry more weight now than igbos.

savage you are!!!

True.

Young03:
That dwarf always talks rubbish


I know his pains, anambra pple rejected him during his tenure as a governor

e still dey pain am

Wow, this place is full of emotionally unstable kids.