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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 11:06am On May 26, 2017
NairobiWalker2:


Yeah.....true that.

Again this guy who's comparing the most developed part of Nigeria with the whole of Kenya is delusional. That's like comparing Muthaiga alone to New York and claiming Nairobi is better than New York.
Hehe! How about we excise the nothern regions of Kenya where the levels of underdevelopment are the highest? Then we compare the levels of development btwn the Nigerian southern region vs Kenya' s. It wont change the facts reflected by the statistics.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:10am On May 26, 2017
PissedYagami:
Yeah so we are officially the rooftop of Africa

Hahahahahah! grin

Behold the 76 floors skyscraper in Abuja. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 11:29am On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Ok, what about the counties?

Can you pls help me list the 46 Kenyan counties and the dominant indigenous ethnic group of each county?

Taysermahiri, u can also help out here pls

Your Iansweet moniker asked the same question twice! What do you want with this info? How could Your simple mind possibly process the info anyway?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:41am On May 26, 2017
68816419:

nigger stop the lies, their has never been any time were Yoruba Muslims were chased rather it more like verbal issues mostly among the few hausas

Have you ever experienced religious crises in the north?

If no, go and ask those who have. Or ask people who were born and bred in Kano, Kaduna or Jos.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:44am On May 26, 2017
kikuyu1:


Your Iansweet moniker asked the same question twice! What do you want with this info? How could Your simple mind possibly process the info anyway?

Schizoprenic hallucination.

If you cannot reply me, you should just swerve.

I know the ethnic/religious divisions of all the states of India, Canada, most in USA, and many other countries of the world....
If you had some senses, you would appreciate it when others want to learn about your countries.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:49am On May 26, 2017
From what i have observed here, it seems like most Kenyans cannot list the 47 counties of Kenya off-heart, let alone the county capitals and demographics of each counties.
I think it's sad.

Most enlightened Nigerians can very well do this with the 36 states of Nigeria. We sing songs memorizing them from childhood in schools

@kikuyu1, Taysermahiri, muafrika2, Mtumsuper
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:51am On May 26, 2017
forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! grin

Behold the 76 floors skyscraper in Abuja. grin

When do you think work will fully begin in this Centennary city, Abuja?

Eko atlantic and Centennary city, which do you think will be more beautiful after completion?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:56am On May 26, 2017
Hbuyosh:
Hehe! How about we excise the nothern regions of Kenya where the levels of underdevelopment are the highest? Then we compare the levels of development btwn the Nigerian southern region vs Kenya' s. It wont change the facts reflected by the statistics.

Is Kenya officially divided into region? If yes, what are they?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 11:57am On May 26, 2017
freshest4live:

The argument is, if we take away the south of Nigeria ( or most prosperous parts of Nigeria) and that of Kenya, the statistics would no longer favour Kenya. Consider the Northern states such as katsina, sokoto, zamfarawa, amongst the poorest in Nigeria such that that they had to battle with polio, and also the North east affected by Boko Haram leaving many displaced persons constitute the largest population in Nigeria rivalled only by Lagos. It is a fact that Nigeria has the largest middle class in Africa and still growing, if we put all of these together, the best of Kenya does not come close by any measure.
If we take only Lagos for instance as a country with 27 million people, it has very low illiteracy rate, a large middle class, a higher HDI, and as small as it is, would still be more powerful than Kenya. Anambra alone without oil competes with Rivers states and outshines Delta and ondo states in terms of revenue (all oil producing states), with Onitsha the largest market in west Africa. Forget it, the best of Nigeria is still extremely powerful in Africa despite the recession and very high poverty rate. Lagos, Portharcourt and Anambra alone would only compete with Egypt and south africa.

That is false, the southern part of Kenya is the most developed and economically vibrant, just like the case in Nigeria.

Even if we were to isolate these marginalized regions from the rest of our respective countries for the sake of these comparisonss, I still do not see how it would change the facts reflected in the statiatics.

But this absurd argument of yours is a clear indication of acceptance of defeat.

For starters, southern Nigeria suffers epileptic power supply than southern Kenya, right?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:02pm On May 26, 2017
ArtanK:


Actually most Somalis don't speak Arabic. They can understand it to some degree, read and write it because Somali kids attend madrassah in their early years. Somalis speak basic Arabic at best and the language was written in the Arabic script for almost 1000 years, but that changed in the 70s when the Somali government decided to adopt the Latin script.

So, does this mean that most younger somalis can no longer write Somali in the arabic script?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:09pm On May 26, 2017
Hbuyosh:


That is false, the southern part of Kenya is the most developed and economically vibrant, just like the case in Nigeria.

Even if we were to isolate these marginalized regions from the rest of our respective countries for the sake of these comparisonss, I still do not see how it would change the facts reflected in the statiatics.

But this absurd argument of yours is a clear indication of acceptance of defeat.

For starters, southern Nigeria suffers epileptic power supply than southern Kenya, right?

Northern Nigeria is not marginalized.

The region is just very vast and difficult compared to the south, hence making it difficult for infrastructures and amenities to penetrate.
Also, due to radical islam, many northerners belittle the importance of western education.
Lastly, oil discovery caused the Nigerian govt to abandon agriculture and mineral minning which the north had in abundance.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:10pm On May 26, 2017
Muafrika2:

Legend has it that they came from the North, after the Hutu (Bantus) had settled on the land. They got into a pact which included mixing and sharing of power. They even adopted a bantu language. Until the Tutsi became power hungry and subdued the hosts.

It is said that the Tutsi were very ruthless toward the Hutu. A common saying is that when the Tutsi king wanted to rise from his seat, he called a Hutu and dug his spear into his foot as his support.

The last straw was the European colonialists using the Tutsi, who readily collaborated with them, to dominate the Hutu. Then, guess what, upon independence, they switched the roles and left power in the hands of the Hutu. Recipe for disaster. The genocide was bound to happen.
very much true. The same cushites also settled amongst other tribes in the interlacustrine region and adopted the tongue of the native bantu group, and the same 'Hutu - Tutsi' social class developed amongst the banyankole and batooro of Uganda. The superior - inferior social relationships between the two groups is enveloped in a sad and brutal /demeaning treatment of the hutu group in Uganda. The Hutu group is called Bairu in lunyankole, i saw first hand social relations in that part of Uganda and i felt so sad for them. M7 belongs to the Tutsi group of his tribe and he displays alot of the same disdain they are famous for, and extends that spirit to how other tribes are treated and allocation of resources. Whoever told you an African leader will be unbiased and non tribal in allocating development or resources needs a hot slap.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 12:14pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Is Kenya officially divided into region? If yes, what are they?
They are called counties. They are just like the states in Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 12:16pm On May 26, 2017
NairobiWalker2:


And I'm telling you to stop that argument since you'll be leaving out almost 60% of Nigeria. How about we take out the South of Nigeria and do comparisons using the North?

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:17pm On May 26, 2017
Hbuyosh:
They are called counties. They are just like the states in Nigeria.

I know about the counties. Nigeria has 36 states, but we also have the official north and South divisions.
We also have the geo-political zones.
North-west, North-east, North-central, South-west, South-east and South-South. Each having 5-7 states.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 12:25pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Have you ever experienced religious crises in the north?

If no, go and ask those who have. Or ask people who were born and bred in Kano, Kaduna or Jos.
well i just fell like i should put it into your notice. in jos for example. there is a large yoruba family whom you may mistake for indigines. They speak both birom and hausa fluently.Jos herself is a christain soon despite muslim population. The riots is always between birom christain youth and hausa vegitable seller. From terminus to ferin gada to gada biyu. It is more ethnical than religion. Yoruba community are left out. Unless igbo trader in some cases.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:32pm On May 26, 2017
vaxx:
well i just fell like i should put it into your notice. in jos for example. there is a large yoruba family whom you may mistake for indigines. They speak both birom and hausa fluently.Jos herself is a christain soon despite muslim population. The riots is always between birom christain youth and hausa vegitable seller. From terminus to ferin gada to gada biyu. It is more ethnical than religion. Yoruba community are left out. Unless igbo trader in some cases.

Yes, the crisis started as an indigene-settler dispute but it always includes everyone and turns into a religious crisis because most times you cannot differentiate northern christians and Southern christians there likewise hausas and other muslims.
The same thing with Kaduna

Why are there muslim and christian dominated areas in Jos and Kaduna? Was it so in the 90s?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:33pm On May 26, 2017
MtuMsuper:

very much true. The same cushites also settled amongst other tribes in the interlacustrine region and adopted the tongue of the native bantu group, and the same 'Hutu - Tutsi' social class developed amongst the banyankole and batooro of Uganda. The superior - inferior social relationships between the two groups is enveloped in a sad and brutal /demeaning treatment of the hutu group in Uganda. The Hutu group is called Bairu in lunyankole, i saw first hand social relations in that part of Uganda and i felt so sad for them. M7 belongs to the Tutsi group of his tribe and he displays alot of the same disdain they are famous for, and extends that spirit to how other tribes are treated and allocation of resources. Whoever told you an African leader will be unbiased and non tribal in allocating development or resources needs a hot slap.
Uganda too?

I've heard of the legendary Bairu from a Nairalander, but in relation to Rwanda's Hutu. How do they live together? Is it an Indian kind of caste system?

Sounds like a bunch of calculating opportunists. I doubt that is going to change.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 12:34pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


I know about the counties. Nigeria has 36 states, but we also have the official north and South divisions.
We also have the geo-political zones.
North-west, North-east, North-central, South-west, South-east and South-South. Each having 5-7 states.
I'm suspecting their counties are just like our local Government Areas or at best the size of our cities/Towns, and some as big as some states in Nigeria. If that is the case, then there is no basis for comparison and this arguement is dead on arrival.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:38pm On May 26, 2017
vaxx:
well i just fell like i should put it into your notice. in jos for example. there is a large yoruba family whom you may mistake for indigines. They speak both birom and hausa fluently.Jos herself is a christain soon despite muslim population. The riots is always between birom christain youth and hausa vegitable seller. From terminus to ferin gada to gada biyu. It is more ethnical than religion. Yoruba community are left out. Unless igbo trader in some cases.

Were you in Jos during the 2008 and 2010 crisis?
The yoruba community in Jos lost approximately 500 people in that crisis as confirmed by the head of yorubas in Jos (they lost more people than others).

This is because yorubas are the largest tribe almost equally divided btw muslim and christians in Jos and they were caught in both sides of the crises?

Nasarawa gwong used to have a large yoruba muslim community in the past. Today, are they still there? NO. Hausas chased them away as well as most christians.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 12:41pm On May 26, 2017
Hbuyosh:


That is false, the southern part of Kenya is the most developed and economically vibrant, just like the case in Nigeria.

Even if we were to isolate these marginalized regions from the rest of our respective countries for the sake of these comparisonss, I still do not see how it would change the facts reflected in the statiatics.

But this absurd argument of yours is a clear indication of acceptance of defeat.

For starters, southern Nigeria suffers epileptic power supply than southern Kenya, right?
Yeah it does.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:44pm On May 26, 2017
Apollonia city of Light

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:45pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


I know about the counties. Nigeria has 36 states, but we also have the official north and South divisions.
We also have the geo-political zones.
North-west, North-east, North-central, South-west, South-east and South-South. Each having 5-7 states.
Am starting to suspect you're IanSweet too. You ask questions without a plan of what to do with the answer. Were not your parents. Google is there for such kind of unfocused inquiries. But are you male or female? undecided

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 12:45pm On May 26, 2017
9jakool:

Ok!
What language do they speak natively? Is it Hausa or do they have their own language?
Also, what state are they from?





Mostly from Nijer... They spk their language and de don't understand Hausa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:46pm On May 26, 2017
UC

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 12:46pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Yes, the crisis started as an indigene-settler dispute but it always includes everyone and turns into a religious crisis because most times you cannot differentiate northern christians and Southern christians there likewise hausas and other muslims.
The same thing with Kaduna

Why are there muslim and christian dominated areas in Jos and Kaduna? Was it so in the 90s?
i think jos city has always been dominated by christain right from early nigeria. many jos indigines trace their christain backgroud to somewhere around 100years. The first catholic church in jos is as old as nigeria independent.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:49pm On May 26, 2017
Just30:
Apollonia city of Light
What is that?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 12:51pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Were you in Jos during the 2008 and 2010 crisis?
The yoruba community in Jos lost approximately 500 people in that crisis as confirmed by the head of yorubas in Jos (they lost more people than others).

This is because yorubas are the largest tribe almost equally divided btw muslim and christians in Jos and they were caught in both sides of the crises?

Nasarawa gwong used to have a large yoruba muslim community in the past. Today, are they still there? NO. Hausas chased them away as well as most christians.
in the middle of war innocent suffer the most. Yoruba are never their target.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:03pm On May 26, 2017
Muafrika2:

Am starting to suspect you're IanSweet too. You ask questions without a plan of what to do with the answer. Were not your parents. Google is there for such kind of unfocused inquiries. But are you male or female? undecided

You have joined kikuyu in schizoprenic hallucinations too, hmm, how am i not sure you and him are same person?

Myopic people like you are the reason why we all have misconceptions about each other.
Now, can you tell me what the hell is wrong if i know the demographics of Kenyan counties?
How do you know if i won't be in Kenya tomorrow?

I have checked wiki but not all Kenyan counties have good demographic representations there.
If you cannot help out, why not just pass? I have never seen where people will be ashamed or too naive to respond to simple questions about their countries.
If you don't know it, admitting it will not kill you, will it?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 1:07pm On May 26, 2017
vaxx:
in the middle of war innocent suffer the most. Yoruba are never their target.

Of course, but they are caught in between and sometimes even suffer more casualties.

Igbos and Northern christians easily take sides with other christians and hold specific areas, but Hausas and northern muslims do not take sides with yoruba, edo and middlebelt muslims unless they have been heavily hausanized.

Feel free to ask those who witnessed these crises, since you said you live in Jos.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 1:08pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


I know about the counties. Nigeria has 36 states, but we also have the official north and South divisions.
We also have the geo-political zones.
North-west, North-east, North-central, South-west, South-east and South-South. Each having 5-7 states.

What?! No, it is not like that here in Kenya.
we dont have those diviaions and geo- political zones u are talking about.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 1:08pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


I know about the counties. Nigeria has 36 states, but we also have the official north and South divisions.
We also have the geo-political zones.
North-west, North-east, North-central, South-west, South-east and South-South. Each having 5-7 states.

What?! No, it is not like that here in Kenya.
we dont have those diviaions and geo- political zones u are talking about.

But why was that necessary?

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