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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 2:26pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


You know it is mostly the poor people that fight and kill themselves over religion and ethnicity. So the clashes take place more in the low income areas. I don't live in low income areas, but i have peeps who live there and have first hand info on how everything played out.

You should know the way hausa-fulanis behave now, there are many hausa-fulanis who will tell you that they are indigenes of Borno & Yobe state, but you and i know that those states are not part of Hausaland.

Hausa-fulanis are expansionists and our people cannot tolerate such.

I also heard about that 'eating flesh', and i watched the video, i don't think they actually ate it, they were just playing with it. It was like a warning sign of fearlesness.
You see, our people used to be very animalistic in the past cultures, heck most black Africans were. Christianity came to calm us down, but many hausa-fulanis take our present calmness for granted and weakness.







What caused d jos crises?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 2:34pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


It's not just abt being FCT.

During the Tin minning exploration in Jos during colonial times, colonial masters needed more hands and they imported a lot of hausas, igbos and other tribes to Jos which was still a small place. This changed the demographic of Jos forever. This is why you can still find 3rd generation Igbo, yoruba, hausa and bendel people in Jos.

As for Kaduna, it became the capital of old northern region. Port harcourt became the economic capital of old eastern region.

Onitsha did not need to be a capital for settlers to outnumber Indigenes.
It happens in any large developing city where the indigenes are small in number.
i agree with you . but being the fedral capital carry some weight. too. a capital city will likely be dominated by foreigners

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:35pm On May 26, 2017
There's no justifiable reason why this page has to get to 1000
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 2:43pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:
From what i have observed here, it seems like most Kenyans cannot list the 47 counties of Kenya off-heart, let alone the county capitals and demographics of each counties.
I think it's sad.

Most enlightened Nigerians can very well do this with the 36 states of Nigeria. We sing songs memorizing them from childhood in schools

@kikuyu1, Taysermahiri, muafrika2, Mtumsuper







I also memorized it in nursery 2grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 3:02pm On May 26, 2017
vaxx:
well i just fell like i should put it into your notice. in jos for example. there is a large yoruba family whom you may mistake for indigines. They speak both birom and hausa fluently.Jos herself is a christain soon despite muslim population. The riots is always between birom christain youth and hausa vegitable seller. From terminus to ferin gada to gada biyu. It is more ethnical than religion. Yoruba community are left out. Unless igbo trader in some cases.





Daz what I also said...it's mostly of tribal crises not religious, but sum mischievous people wud Mk it seemed like it religious. Take for instance, the southern Kaduna crises btw d herdmens nd d indigenes...it's purely tribal not religious.



Do you know that they killed hausas whenever fulanis attacked...they mount roadblocks nd set any vehicle carrying hausa/fulanis ablaze after removing their people from d vehicle. You won't see dis in d media, but it happens often at Goni gora, kafanchan under Jema'a LGA kaduna.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 3:16pm On May 26, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Bairu actually means peasant.
Yes, i have a munyankole friend who was telling me fantastic tales. Even the one where a king sat on the back of a peasant as a stool and stabbed someone's foot as a rest for his spear. The farming caste were prohibited from owning cattle and had to trade produce for milk and meat. They were also forbidden from slaughtering cows. The dynamic was just the same. The Congolese Tutsi also have a tradition of looking down on and speaking down to peasant tribes. That's why anti tutsi sentiments are always strong in the lacustrine region of EA.

In fact you're right, there is a rigid caste system among those tribes from the regions around SW Uganda, Rwanda/Burundi and the adjoining areas of Congo DR. It involves cattle ownership, dietary bans, and social discrimination. Amongst the banyankole its so serious that M7 has decided to stall or stymie calls for the reinstatement of the monarchy amongst his tribe because some enlightened, egalitarian and social revolutionary NRM types scream human dignity and repeat the scary and fantasy like horror stories about what it was in the past to the rest of the people to embolden their point.
You're beginning to see Tutsis have been behind all the turmoil and mass death in the region. Do you know these delirious negroes actually tried to overthrow Moo in 97? There was a time they openly proclaimed he'd go but not by elections. In 98 around RPF agents were caught in a Riruta house by GSU Reece coy. Not one of them came out breathing!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:22pm On May 26, 2017
Isahalbash:






Daz what I also said...it's mostly of tribal crises not religious, but sum mischievous people wud Mk it seemed like it religious. Take for instance, the southern Kaduna crises btw d herdmens nd d indigenes...it's purely tribal not religious.



Do you know that they killed hausas whenever fulanis attacked...they mount roadblocks nd set any vehicle carrying hausa/fulanis ablaze after removing their people from d vehicle. You won't see dis in d media, but it happens often at Goni gora, kafanchan under Jema'a LGA kaduna.

that is what nonwenuse is not getting. he still think it is religious crisis
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:25pm On May 26, 2017
Just30:
There's no justifiable reason why this page has to get to 1000
lol do you want the thread closed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:32pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


When do you think work will fully begin in this Centennary city, Abuja?

Eko atlantic and Centennary city, which do you think will be more beautiful after completion?


Work is already going on there but slowly due to the issue btw the FCTA and the developer which has to do with authority.

The developers wants full authority but the FCTA point out that such wasn't included in the agreement.

The issue of compensation for resettlement money that... grin


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The project is currently under progress, Phase 1b grading works is almost completed, the contractor is ‎completing all snags at the moment. The master plan design is progressing and It may be difficult to tell you when the actual infrastructure will be in place as this depends on the design specifications.
Some information I got from emailing them.



This is one of the quote from skyscrapercity

The picture is also gotten from skyscrapercity. You can notice the roads and the cranes.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:41pm On May 26, 2017
Just30:
UC

Hahahahahah! The person who could only execute this project had been voted out. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 3:43pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


I am from a very small minority ethnic group in Nigeria. (we are barely more than 200k people).

Infact, if i call the name of my ethnic group, most Nigerians here will not know it.
However, i am still not ashamed of my ethnic group.

Why are u ashamed?
you are either berom or angas
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 4:02pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


You have joined kikuyu in schizoprenic hallucinations too, hmm, how am i not sure you and him are same person?

Myopic people like you are the reason why we all have misconceptions about each other.
Now, can you tell me what the hell is wrong if i know the demographics of Kenyan counties?
How do you know if i won't be in Kenya tomorrow?

I have checked wiki but not all Kenyan counties have good demographic representations there.
If you cannot help out, why not just pass? I have never seen where people will be ashamed or too naive to respond to simple questions about their countries.
If you don't know it, admitting it will not kill you, will it?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 4:17pm On May 26, 2017
kenyans are useless,liars like ipob...that they still stick to this thread opened by a ipobian,shows how little they feel of themselves...

dont they have nothing else to talk about ......

you rarely see them in other threads on nairaland.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93S0k3i548

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:26pm On May 26, 2017
kikuyu1:

You're beginning to see Tutsis have been behind all the turmoil and mass death in the region. Do you know these delirious negroes actually tried to overthrow Moo in 97? There was a time they openly proclaimed he'd go but not by elections. In 98 around RPF agents were caught in a Riruta house by GSU Reece coy. Not one of them came out breathing!
Rwanda, Burundi, Congo shocked

I always wondered what business Museveni had in DR Congo. Now I see. They would be here too.
They've been claiming most of Western Kenya. Where do the Baganda fall?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 4:42pm On May 26, 2017
Anna lmaffadon, the Edo girl from Nigeria an ICT prodigy honoured by the Queen of England, she's the latest addition to that never ending list of Nigerians who have received that Honour.
Her family is dubbed the SMARTEST FAMILY IN BRITAIN.
My question is why do lots of these kind of news which comes out all the time fail to go as widespread as the drug dealing and scam tag that tarnish the image of Nigerians especially in Asian countries like Malaysia, lndonesia, etc.
http://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftechpoint.ng%2F%3Fp%3D83905%3Ao6TDAQfimljMz7XAiwlWpowv_NY&imp=5d36sve433skc&prev_imp=5d33fid1g05oev&forum_id=3348562&forum=techpointng&thread_id=4609841233&thread=5831654611&zone=thread&area=bottom&object_type=thread&object_id=5831654611
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:49pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Northern Nigeria is not marginalized.

The region is just very vast and difficult compared to the south, hence making it difficult for infrastructures and amenities to penetrate.
Also, due to radical islam, many northerners belittle the importance of western education.
Lastly, oil discovery caused the Nigerian govt to abandon agriculture and mineral minning which the north had in abundance.
damn u man,
Nowenuse:


Northern Nigeria is not marginalized.

The region is just very vast and difficult compared to the south, hence making it difficult for infrastructures and amenities to penetrate.
Also, due to radical islam, many northerners belittle the importance of western education.
Lastly, oil discovery caused the Nigerian govt to abandon agriculture and mineral minning which the north had in abundance.
damn u man,
Nowenuse:


Northern Nigeria is not marginalized.

The region is just very vast and difficult compared to the south, hence making it difficult for infrastructures and amenities to penetrate.
Also, due to radical islam, many northerners belittle the importance of western education.
Lastly, oil discovery caused the Nigerian govt to abandon agriculture and mineral minning which the north had in abundance.
damn u man,how can you say that, every body knows that kano,kaduna,Gombe,bauchi, sokoto have better infrastructure than any southern States except rivers,uyo,Enugu and calabar

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:15pm On May 26, 2017
vaxx:
hausa christain and igbo christain will not attack yoruba muslim willingly unless there is sign of hausa intruder.

At the height of the crisis, they would. Unless the yoruba does not look muslim at all.

It was so bad that i heard that even fellow christians were mistaken for hausas/muslims and killed because they dressed like hausas/muslims. For a longtime in some hot places, anyone seen on kaftan or Babanriga or hijab would be killed on sight.
It was so terrible. But thank God peace has come to stay, muslims can now enter christian areas and vice versa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:21pm On May 26, 2017
Isahalbash:


What caused d jos crises?

Same thing that caused the Wukari (Taraba), Tafawa balewa(Bauchi), Numan (Adamawa) and Kaduna crisis.

Hausa-fulani expansionism.

In Jos 2008 crisis, it all started with election of Jos north LGA chairman. The hausas claim to have won it and claim it was rigged by the christians.

In the 2010 crisis, some muslim guys warned a christian girl not to pass an area that was observing islamic prayers, she insisted, they beat her up and she went back to report to her guys who came to beat the muslim guys and everywhere caught fire from there.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:25pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


At the height of the crisis, they would. Unless the yoruba does not look muslim at all.

It was so bad that i heard that even fellow christians were mistaken for hausas/muslims and killed because they dressed like hausas/muslims. For a longtime in some hot places, anyone seen on kaftan or Babanriga or hijab would be killed on sight.
It was so terrible. But thank God peace has come to stay, muslims can now enter christian areas and vice versa.
yes jos is safe now
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:34pm On May 26, 2017
Isahalbash:


Daz what I also said...it's mostly of tribal crises not religious, but sum mischievous people wud Mk it seemed like it religious. Take for instance, the southern Kaduna crises btw d herdmens nd d indigenes...it's purely tribal not religious.


Do you know that they killed hausas whenever fulanis attacked...they mount roadblocks nd set any vehicle carrying hausa/fulanis ablaze after removing their people from d vehicle. You won't see dis in d media, but it happens often at Goni gora, kafanchan under Jema'a LGA kaduna.


It's so sad. Most Plateau and Southern kaduna indigenes are christians, but my own tribe and few others are 50% muslims.
I have lost some of my own relatives who were mistaken for hausas just by being muslim at the hands of my own fellow christians.

You will not blame the christian indigenes, do you remember the Dogo na hauwa massacre of 2011 or thereabout? There used to be many hausas/muslims living in that village together with the christians, but the morning before the night attack, all the christian indigenes surprisingly woke up to see that all their muslim neighbours have vanished without understanding why.
This is what made most christians to believe that fulani herdsmen work together with town muslims.

Fulani herdsmen use hit and run tactics, after their havoc, the indigenes have no one to retaliate to and they choose to descend on people of the same religion with fulanis.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 5:37pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


because she is whiter?

Ok, since you are good at differentiating nationalities

One of these 4 women is not a Nigerian, can you tell me which one?





D 3rd is Arab Nigeria I cant view d 2nd but dat 1st is an Ethiopian... The last one I don't recognise her;P
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:38pm On May 26, 2017
Isahalbash:


Daz what I also said...it's mostly of tribal crises not religious, but sum mischievous people wud Mk it seemed like it religious. Take for instance, the southern Kaduna crises btw d herdmens nd d indigenes...it's purely tribal not religious.



Do you know that they killed hausas whenever fulanis attacked...they mount roadblocks nd set any vehicle carrying hausa/fulanis ablaze after removing their people from d vehicle. You won't see dis in d media, but it happens often at Goni gora, kafanchan under Jema'a LGA kaduna.


A lot of times also, the hausa-fulanis are the ones who turn it to a religious crisis like in 2008, the hausas assured the Igbo traders in Jos that they have no issues with them, that their target are the indigenes, only for the Hausas to turn around and burn down the Igbo spare part market at Farin gada.
This was how the Igbos and all other christians took sides with northern christians against Hausas/muslims and it turned into a full blown religious crisis.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:42pm On May 26, 2017
forgiveness:



Are you referring to this outdated list? grin

Even if we go by this list, Lagos still has more 20 floors above completed/underconstruction. grin

By the way, where did you get, 23 Nairobi and 10 Lagos? grin

You dey li.e ooooooo. grin

That is why I keep saying you are blind.. It has been mentioned Lagos including Eco Atlantic 25 with Nairobi 30... Just open your eyes..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 5:51pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


Same thing that caused the Wukari (Taraba), Tafawa balewa(Bauchi), Numan (Adamawa) and Kaduna crisis.

Hausa-fulani expansionism.

In Jos 2008 crisis, it all started with election of Jos north LGA chairman. The hausas claim to have won it and claim it was rigged by the christians.

In the 2010 crisis, some muslim guys warned a christian girl not to pass an area that was observing islamic prayers, she insisted, they beat her up and she went back to report to her guys who came to beat the muslim guys and everywhere caught fire from there.









When they finished killing demselves nd see no one to kill, dere brains go reset... All Na mumu dey worry Dem. Why r dey not fighting again in Jos?grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:53pm On May 26, 2017
Isahalbash:



D 3rd is Arab Nigeria I cant view d 2nd but dat 1st is an Ethiopian... The last one I don't recognise her;P

All were Nigerian except the 2nd who was Somali cheesy

I told ya, they can all be mistaken for each other.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:57pm On May 26, 2017
forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! grin

Behold the 76 floors skyscraper in Abuja. grin
Tag me when you start constructing it
We also have 77 floor one in Westlands proposed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 5:57pm On May 26, 2017
Nowenuse:


It's so sad. Most Plateau and Southern kaduna indigenes are christians, but my own tribe and few others are 50% muslims.
I have lost some of my own relatives who were mistaken for hausas just by being muslim at the hands of my own fellow christians.

You will not blame the christian indigenes, do you remember the Dogo na hauwa massacre of 2011 or thereabout? There used to be many hausas/muslims living in that village together with the christians, but the morning before the night attack, all the christian indigenes surprisingly woke up to see that all their muslim neighbours have vanished without understanding why.
This is what made most christians to believe that fulani herdsmen work together with town muslims.

Fulani herdsmen use hit and run tactics, after their havoc, the indigenes have no one to retaliate to and they choose to descend on people of the same religion with fulanis.









Na now u knw say Fulani fight Na hit nd run...haahahahah... They attack at night mostly, u wud jst wake up nd see ur house on fire. There's a Kanuri village( I hv relatives there) in jigawa that no Fulani can enta till today.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:57pm On May 26, 2017
forgiveness:



Work is already going on there but slowly due to the issue btw the FCTA and the developer which has to do with authority.

The developers wants full authority but the FCTA point out that such wasn't included in the agreement.

The issue of compensation for resettlement money that... grin


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The project is currently under progress, Phase 1b grading works is almost completed, the contractor is ‎completing all snags at the moment. The master plan design is progressing and It may be difficult to tell you when the actual infrastructure will be in place as this depends on the design specifications.


Some information I got from emailing them.


This one of the quote from skyscrapercity


The picture is also gotten from skyscrapercity. You can notice the roads and the cranes.

Ok.
Is the centennary city under AMAC LGA?

CT city and Eko atlantic, which would cost more and which do you think will be better and more powerful?

It seems like CT city is far bigger than Eko atlantic. Or not?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker2: 6:00pm On May 26, 2017
Hbuyosh:
Hehe! How about we excise the nothern regions of Kenya where the levels of underdevelopment are the highest? Then we compare the levels of development btwn the Nigerian southern region vs Kenya' s. It wont change the facts reflected by the statistics.

I told him the same too. lol

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:00pm On May 26, 2017
popizaino:
you are either berom or angas

LoL, Berom are 95-99% christians, while Ngas are like 75-80% christians.
And these are just 2 out of the approx 50 ethnic groups in Plateau state.
Nice try though cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:03pm On May 26, 2017
68816419:

damn u man,
damn u man,

damn u man,how can you say that, every body knows that kano,kaduna,Gombe,bauchi, sokoto have better infrastructure than any southern States except rivers,uyo,Enugu and calabar

Mostly only the capital cities in these states have any good infrastructure and these states are very very big in size compared to your average Southern states.

Why do you think the per capital incomes of northern states are so low compared to the non-oil producing southern states??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:07pm On May 26, 2017
Isahalbash:


When they finished killing demselves nd see no one to kill, dere brains go reset... All Na mumu dey worry Dem. Why r dey not fighting again in Jos?grin

Fight nor dey taya pesin ni? Bodi nor be fayawood na cheesy

Most christians and muslims no longer live together, so, chances of fracas are rare.

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