mekuzi09:

And so why are you worked up? They say they don't want Biafra, why are you trying to sound as if you are forcing them? You sound too desperate man. I am Igbo, and I want Biafra, but not the ways you guys are going about it.

They are slaves who have no control over their oil


Why do you think Ijaws wants out.?

Ijaws understand that they must be free

Amarabae:
why are you guys embarrasing Igbos before these minority ethnic groups?

I doubt if the person you are talking to will ever listen to you. He has been radicalised. But now you see why some of us come on strong on issues like this.

EvilUnityBeggars:


They are slaves who have no control over their oil

Urhobos who control your oil.?

Urhobos why are the oil companies headquarters in Lagos and Abuja and not in your land.?

Urhobos, why are Yorubas the most populated in the oil companies drilling oil in Urhobo land


Urhobos, a slave is one who has no control over his destiny, resources and future

Urhobos are slaves who have no control their oil


Fratermathy Efewestern take note

I ask again, why are you guys embarrasing Igbos before these minority ethnic groups?

Amarabae:
why are you guys embarrasing Igbos before these minority ethnic groups?

Who control the oil wells of the Urhobos.?

If the Urhobos are free people, why aren't they controlling their oil wells

Urhobos are slaves simple and short

hammer6:


Where did IPOB put out a request?

IPOB did no such thing.

Wen we are ready, our king will initiate dialogue with their King and the Itsekiri King of Warri as well as the Ijaw King.

For now that attention seeking tout(fratermathy) is just spiting all over the place.

The guys on the FP already exposed his misdemeanour

Your king? Urhobo king?

I never knew Igbo had a single king. I also never knew Urhobos had a single king as well.

Pertaining the initial post. The writer was asking Urhobos to respect the IPOB-instructed sit-at-home order. So I will ask you this simple question now:
Was it not IPOB that asked all Igbos to sit-at-home on May 30th?

ProWalker:


Who are you to call for referendum? You don't even speak or make decisions for yourself, now you are sitting down in one dirty room in abakaliki and demanding referendum for minorities. You are a classical definition of delusion

CHAI

Amarabae:
why are you guys embarrasing Igbos before these minority ethnic groups?

Honestly it is baffling. I wonder why these guys, sound so desperate and militantly intimidating. If they are wise, they should pick the opinions here and table them to their leader for proper analysis; possibly think of ways to engage the leadership of said group. Not to come online and be claiming referendum will speak, bla bla bla. You only conduct referendum in an environment that is 50% sympathetic to your course, not the other way round. Are these guys sane
Igboid S'S and S'E should consolidate their hold first on Biafra before extending it to other non Igboid group.

fratermathy:


I doubt if the person you are talking to will ever listen to you. He has been radicalised. But now you see why some of us come on strong on issues like this.

Slaves have no control over their oil wells

Ijaws want out because they aren't slaves

Only slaves stay back


Fratermathy, why aren't you working in any of the oil companies on Urhobo land.?


Answer

Because you belong to an enslaved tribe who has no control over their oil


Efewestern why aren't you working in any of the oil companies on Urhobo land

mekuzi09:

And so why are you worked up? They say they don't want Biafra, why are you trying to sound as if you are forcing them? You sound too desperate man. I am Igbo, and I want Biafra, but not the ways you guys are going about it.

You just nailed it! Fire them!
They are behaving like Psychos, they may start committing suicide if these Minority ethnic groups don't join their biafra.
There is fire on the mountain, dear

fratermathy:


Your king? Urhobo king?

I never knew Igbo had a single king. I also never knew Urhobos had a single king as well.

Pertaining the initial post. The writer was asking Urhobos to respect the IPOB-instructed sit-at-home order. So I will ask you this simple question now:
Was it not IPOB that asked all Igbos to sit-at-home on May 30th?

A tout like u. How u go know? No be only bottle u sabi? E get anything way dey that head at all?

Efewestern:


first of all, you have nothing in common with an itsekiri man, they are mixture of edo and yoruba, and I thought you hate those tribe so much, why are you insisting they be part of your dream country?

Secondly we have been fighting for one things "Resource control " , we are still very much interested in the Nigeria project provided our Wishes are been granted, Our interest will be more protected in Nigeria than your country.

Thirdly an average urhobo man will want a country called Niger Delta republic, where we won't be minority to any tribe.. can't you see? we all have different dreams. why are you forcing yours on us ?

my point is:if you feel you got the majority,why so scared of putting it to a test?

fratermathy:
I came across this laughable plea from IPOB online and as an Urhobo, I found it laughable and delusional. I'll express my sentiments under the post.




My issues with this delusional plea include:

1. The writer couldn't even spell Urhobo well. What he spelt was Uhrobo, not Urhobo. I have met several Igbos lash on others who dared to omit the "g" in Igbo and spelt as Ibo. The fact that someone or a group that supposedly means us well do not even know how to spell the name of our ethnicity is definitely laughable.

2. Urhobos/Isokos HAVE NEVER been a part of Biafra at any point. In 1967, Urhobo/Isokoland was in Nigeria's Mid-West State (previously in the Western Region) and anyone who knows the history of the war well enough knows that the Mid-West was never part of Ojukwu's short-lived Biafra. In fact, the Biafran troops massacred a lot of Mid-Westerners, including Urhobo/Isokos, when they invaded Benin (only Igbos were spared).

3. In the current resurgence for Biafra, Urhobo/Isokos have always maintained their stand. Our apex socio-cultural unions, UPU and IDU, have stated emphatically that we do not want Biafra. We are not Biafrans. We do not want to be Biafrans! This cannot be overemphasised. Apart from our apex groups, many of us have rejected the Biafran cause in the numerous Urhobo-Isoko groups on the social media.

4. Urhobo/Isokos have never been sympathetic to the Igbo cause in any way. In fact, quite the opposite, we have maintained our independence and tilted more towards the West. The average Urhobo man is more at home with a Yoruba than with an Igbo. This doesn't mean we hate Igbos but we simply have more sympathy with our Edoid/Yoruboid kins. This explains the presence of many itinerant and settler Urhobos in Yorubaland, as opposed to Igboland where Urhobo/Isokos hardly venture to. How then can we share a country with people we have no historical, political or cultural ties with? Any Urhobo/Isoko that may be sympathetic to the Biafran cause does so at the personal level and represents his own interest. The voice of Urhobo/Isoko collective interest has been made known already.

5. Urhobos WILL NOT sit at home and do nothing because IPOB asked us to or because Igbos are doing so. It will NEVER happen, today or anytime soon. Such a plea is useless and antithetical to the Biafran cause. Biafrans should aim for an Igboid country and leave Edoid/Yoruboid groups out of it. Urhobo/Isoko is Edoid. Itsekiri is Yoruboid. Even the Western Ijaws which have always been with us tilt more towards the West than anywhere else. How can you want so many dissimilar groups in your "utopia"? Won't it amount to creating another Nigeria when you "drag" uninterested groups to your cause?

I need not tell the writer, IPOB and any Igbo who cares to hear what the answer to this plea would be. The response is not farfetched. Ihwo r'Urhobo guoni Biafra a! Urhobo people are not Biafrans! We may be fed up with Nigeria but we can never leave the devil for the deep blue sea. Igbo is a majority ethnic group in Nigeria and as such contributes to the plights faced by minorities such as Urhobo/Isoko. The Igbo should not absolve itself from the "parasite" status! As far as minorities are concerned, all majority ethnic groups are a threat. Some are much more than some. In this case, Igbos have never done anything for Urhobo/Isokos to trust its motives. IPOB should stop adding us to its agenda or else it'll attract more insults to itself and the Igbo ethnicity. A word is enough for the wise!


Ihwo r'Urhobo v'Isoko, ke mavor owa mlo ota na vwa? Oshe phiyor? Biko vwa me ji tota kparemu me tare na!

It is understandable if you think or feel that the Urhobo/Isoko nation should not be part of Biafra. You are well within your right to express your opinion. I should point out to you that neither you nor the Urhobo nation had this priviledge with being 'Nigerians', you still do not have that priviledge.

You said that the Urhobo nation has never been part of Biafra, this maybe true. But that does not mean they cant be part of Biafra. If we are to follow your logic, it means that Urhobos should never have been part of Nigeria as Urhobos were for hundreds of years before Lugard came, not part of Nigeria

It is important to note that Biafra is not an Igbo cause. Igbos just happen to be the largest ethnic group in Biafra. As I say all the time, the last president of Biafra, General Philip Effiong, was not an Igbo man. The two most powerful men in the first Republic of Biafra, Philip Effiong (vice president) and Mr NU Akpan ( Chief Secretary to the Biafran Government) were not Igbos

One last thing that I want to say is that Biafran agitators are all united in agreement that before Biafra is declared, a referendum must be conducted to allow only those who are willing to join Biafra, to do so.

Before you say 'did Urhobos ask for referendum?'. Did Urhobos get referendum before they became part of Nigeria? The same Nigeria conducts referendum every 4 years in the form of elections to choose political office holders, wether Urhobos like it or not. You have not questioned Uhrobo sovereighty in terms of Nigeria that was 'by force' to even question that of Biafra that is yet to to exist and offers choice.

If you actually cared about Urhobos, you would support them getting a referendum (something they have no hope of ever getting without the Biafran agitation) so that they can reject Biafra and reafirm their allegiance to Nigeria as you believe they would do.

You have no point with this your thread, the only time most of you can even have traffic here about the Uhrobo nation is when the issue of Biafra comes up. Why is that?

EvilUnityBeggars:



Slaves have no control over their oil wells

Ijaws want out because they aren't slaves

Only slaves stay back


Fratermathy, why aren't you working in any of the oil companies on Urhobo land.?


Answer

Because you belong to an enslaved tribe who has no control over their oil

You are now trolling. This is not good for your health. Leave this issue and move on.

hammer6:


A tout like u. How u go know? No be only bottle u sabi? E get anything way dey that head at all?

Personal jibes? You are bigger than this man.

fratermathy:


This is the funniest thing I've seen for a long time. Who the hell is AkinPhysicist? #Efewestern, come and see o

You said EVERY single Urhobo you've met have pledged Biafra. If I may ask, how many have you met? What proof do you have that they are Urhobos? After all, you just admitted now that AkinPhysicist must be multilingual and thus not Urhobo. So why do you think the so-called "Urhobos" you've met are not multilingual Igbos? (that is assuming your laughable comment is even true).

Akin you can fool most people on Nairaland but know ONE thing - you can never fool me. I have seen you mistakingly post as Akinphysicist and then quickly changed back to Fratermathy when you realized it. You are a fraud. And yes, I know at least 10 bonafide Urhobos who are Biafrans to the core. You are an afonja muslim and please stop denying it. We are exposing you gradually.

vayne:

my point is:if you feel you got the majority,why so scared of putting it to a test?

This is NOT a contest. We never asked for a referendum. You can't force one on us. We have a voice to speak on issues such as this. This isn't 1914 when we were forced into Nigeria.

mekuzi09:

Honestly it is baffling. I wonder why these guys, sound so desperate and militantly intimidating. If they are wise, they should pick the opinions here and table them to their leader for proper analysis; possibly think of ways to engage the leadership of said group. Not to come online and be claiming referendum will speak, bla bla bla. You only conduct referendum in an environment that is 50% sympathetic to your course, not the other way round. Are these guys sane
Igboid S'S and S'E should consolidate their hold first on Biafra before extending it to other non Igboid group.

These guys are wild, undiplomatic, insultive, emotional, illogical etc.
How will you conduct referendum on the land of a people who never asked you for one?

fratermathy:


This is the funniest thing I've seen for a long time. Who the hell is AkinPhysicist? #Efewestern, come and see o

You said EVERY single Urhobo you've met have pledged Biafra. If I may ask, how many have you met? What proof do you have that they are Urhobos? After all, you just admitted now that AkinPhysicist must be multilingual and thus not Urhobo. So why do you think the so-called "Urhobos" you've met are not multilingual Igbos? (that is assuming your laughable comment is even true).

Goodnight.. mind writing about the just concluded abraka fist?, think I got some pictures with me. will mail you later.

fratermathy:


You are now trolling. This is not good for your health. Leave this issue and move on.

Hausa Fulani people control the oil wells of Urhobos because you guys are slaves

Ordinary PIB, your Hausa Fulani masters opposed it successfully

Fratermathy and Efewestern, if you guys are free, then have control over your oil wells

EvilUnityBeggars:
Fratermathy Urhobos are free to remain slaves in Nigeria but as for we Igbos, we are going for good

If Urhobos believe that Nigeria has a bright future, fine and good but we Igbos are tired of this failed country

This guy is not Urhobo he is Akinphysicist a bonafide muslim afonja who happens to understand a little Urhobo language. Bros don't be fooled.

kingzizzy:


It is understandable if you think or feel that the Urhobo/Isoko nation should not be part of Biafra. You are well within your right to express your opinion. I should point out to you that neither you nor the Urhobo nation had this priviledge with being 'Nigerians', you still do not have that priviledge.

You said that the Urhobo nation has never been part of Biafra, this maybe true. But that does not mean they cant be part of Biafra. If we are to follow your logic, it means that Urhobos should not never have been part of Nigeria as Urhobos were for hundreds of years before Lugard came, not part if Nigeria

It is important to note that Biafra is not an Igbo cause. Igbos just happens to be the largest ethnic group in Biafra. As I say all the time, the last president of Biafra, General Philip Effiong, was not an Igbo man. The two most powerful men in the first Republic of Biafra, Philip Effiong (vice president) and Mr NU Akpan ( Chief Secretary to the Biafran Government) were not Igbos

One last thing that I want to say is that Biafran agitators are all united in agreement that before Biafra is declared, a referendum must be conducted to allow only those who are willing to join Biafra to do so.

Before you say 'did Urhobos ask for referendum?'. Did Urhobos get referendum before they became part of Nigeria? The same Nigeria conducts referendum every 4 years in the form of elections to choose political office holders, wether Urhobos like it or not. You have not questioned Uhrobo sovereighty in terms of Nigeria that was 'by force' to even question that of Biafra that is yet to to exist and offers choice.

If you actually cared about Urhobos, you would support them getting a referendum (something they have no hope of ever getting without the Biafran agitation) so that they can reject Biafra and reafirim their allegiance to Nigeria as you believe they would do.

You have no point with this your thread, the only time most of you can even have traffic here time about the Uhrobo nation is when the issue of Biafra comes up. Why is that?

Urhobos are slaves whose oil wells are under the control of Hausa Fulani people


Hammer6 Vayne Godisbiafran take note

Slaves have no control over their oil

always remind Fratermathy and Efewestern

kingzizzy:


It is understandable if you think or feel that the Urhobo/Isoko nation should not be part of Biafra. You are well within your right to express your opinion. I should point out to you that neither you nor the Urhobo nation had this priviledge with being 'Nigerians', you still do not have that priviledge.

You said that the Urhobo nation has never been part of Biafra, this maybe true. But that does not mean they cant be part of Biafra. If we are to follow your logic, it means that Urhobos should not never have been part of Nigeria as Urhobos were for hundreds of years before Lugard came, not part if Nigeria

It is important to note that Biafra is not an Igbo cause. Igbos just happens to be the largest ethnic group in Biafra. As I say all the time, the last president of Biafra, General Philip Effiong, was not an Igbo man. The two most powerful men in the first Republic of Biafra, Philip Effiong (vice president) and Mr NU Akpan ( Chief Secretary to the Biafran Government) were not Igbos

One last thing that I want to say is that Biafran agitators are all united in agreement that before Biafra is declared, a referendum must be conducted to allow only those who are willing to join Biafra to do so.

Before you say 'did Urhobos ask for referendum?'. Did Urhobos get referendum before they became part of Nigeria? The same Nigeria conducts referendum every 4 years in the form of elections to choose political office holders, wether Urhobos like it or not. You have not questioned Uhrobo sovereighty in terms of Nigeria that was 'by force' to even question that of Biafra that is yet to to exist and offers choice.

If you actually cared about Urhobos, you would support them getting a referendum (something they have no hope of ever getting without the Biafran agitation) so that they can reject Biafra and reafirim their allegiance to Nigeria as you believe they would do.

You have no point with this your thread, the only time most of you can even have traffic here time about the Uhrobo nation is when the issue of Biafra comes up. Why is that?

There is no need for the lengthy discourse you've just released. Here is how things are:

1. This is not 1914 when many of the groups were blind to what the British did.
2. Urhobo/Isokos and other minority groups have designated bodies to speak on their behalf.
3. If we no longer want Nigeria, there are a number of options we can take and these include:
i. Declare our own independence.
ii. Form a confederation with other MINORITY groups.
iii. Discuss a coalition with any majority group should the terms favour us.
iv. Agitate for the restructuring of Nigeria in order to suit our interest.

There is nothing that IPOB or any ethnicity can do to coerce us into any unwanted marriage. If we want a referendum, we would be at the forefront for the agitation. We won't be silent. Urhobo is the most populous ethnicity in Delta State and one of the oil producing areas in Nigeria. If we want anything, trust me, we know exactly how to make it known.

fratermathy:


You seem to get it wrong. I do want Biafra to be actualised. The noise is far too much. I actually want to see how Biafra will be different from Nigeria when it is created. I want to see how the typical Nigerian spirit of corruption, dishonesty, tribalism, etc, will magically disappear when Biafra is declared. I want to see the rising sun!!

My only bone of contention is that I want to see these as an observer, not as a citizen of Biafra. Biafra should be purely Igboid so as to correct the problem with Nigeria, in terms of ethnic makeup. So my problem with the Biafran project is not that I am anti-Biafra but I am pro-Igboid Biafra only! Anytime a non-Igboid group is included in Biafra, I laugh in my mind because I know such is doomed to fail.

So I hope you copy my stand now? Biafra doesn't need Urhobo, Isoko, or Itsekiri to become a nation.

Please sir you are not Urhobo - you have been exposed. STOP disgracing yourself in this forum

GodIsBiafran:


This guy is not Urhobo he is Akinphysicist a bonafide muslim afonja who happens to understand a little Urhobo language. Bros don't be fooled.

I know he is not Urhobo but I want to remind all SS and SE tribes that they are slaves in Nigeria since slaves have no control over their resources

It is either they escape this slavery or perish in it

Efewestern:


Goodnight.. mind writing about the just concluded abraka fist?, think I got some pictures with me. will mail you later.

Oniovo kobiruo. Abeg mail me. I may write about it. I'm not in Delta State now if not I would have documented it myself.

A very interesting drama, I shall be back tomorrow to read more.

fratermathy:


There is no need for the lengthy discourse you've just released. Here is how things are:

1. This is not 1914 when many of the groups were blind to what the British did.
2. Urhobo/Isokos and other minority groups have designated bodies to speak on their behalf.
3. If we no longer want Nigeria, there are a number of options we can take and these include:
i. Declare our own independence.
ii. Form a confederation with other MINORITY groups.
iii. Discuss a coalition with any majority groups should the terms favour us.
iv. Agitate for the restructuring of Nigeria in order to suit our interest.

There is nothing that IPOB or any ethnicity can do to coerce us into any unwanted marriage. If we want a referendum, we would be at the forefront for the agitation. We won't be silent. Urhobo is the most populous ethnicity in Delta State and one of the oil producing areas in Nigeria. If we want anything, trust me, we know exactly how to make it known.

Who is in charge of the oil wells in Urhobo land.?

fratermathy:


Oniovo kobiruo. Abeg mail me. I may write about it. I'm not in Delta State now if not I would have documented it myself.

men it was interesting, glad we are nor forgetting our root. hope that your mail is still functioning? ..

as for this thread am done replying anybody.

fratermathy:


This is NOT a contest. We never asked for a referendum. You can't force one on us. We have a voice to speak on issues such as this. This isn't 1914 when we were forced into Nigeria.

who is we?
This is my problem with you folks,inasmuch as i want to respect your opinion,you cannot be speaking for everyone else!
Why do we hold elections when someone can simply be appointed?

Cjrane2:
Fake yoruba news.
Tomorrow they will say IPOB begs fulani to join.
Pitiful lies.

GBAM!!! All these people on Nairaland claiming Urhobo, Itshekiri and Isoko are more often than not Yorubas. I am not fooled by that monkey fratermathy. Even the so called Efewestern is dubious. Many of these guys have Yoruba fathers and Biafran mothers hence their confusion and efulefuNess.

GodIsBiafran:


Akin you can fool most people on Nairaland but know ONE thing - you can never fool me. I have seen you mistakingly post as Akinphysicist and then quickly changed back to Fratermathy when you realized it. You are a fraud. And yes, I know at least 10 bonafide Urhobos who are Biafrans to the core. You are an afonja muslim and please stop denying it. We are exposing you gradually.

10 bonafide Urhobos, you say...! Interesting! I wonder where they are so that they can come online and debunk what is here. Can you please notify them of this thread so that they may come and assert their stands? Afterall, if you know 10, at least one or two should be internet savvy and be on Nairaland.

SS/SE are slaves who have no control over their oil


Urhobos can choose continuing being slaves but Igbo, Ijaw, Annang etc people wants freedom to control our oil