Air Force of all people ... We are not talking of football or music here

you did your best to save her but did you tell her about Jesus. it may be ur not bornagain.
what if she died in her sins, Then its double tragedy for her. Her two will be fine but wht of her soul.(heb 9:27) people are dying without Christ too bad.

Airforce1:

If he's qualified, why put a call across a colleague on what drug to give a patient in critical condition?

Ughhh dude u really do sound dumb asking this question every profession has hierachies even in engineering where uyou have senior personnel then you adress then on issues that seem threatening or confusing so young man its better you just stop showing how slacked you are in intelligence

yinkslinks:
My dear nothing like God wants. Please lets not mention God in all we do cus we never obeyed him.

I mentioned it coz according to the doctor, the woman was praying.

Makapounse:
explain better/clare of your action and stop abusive statement

Hows that abusive,
you initial response is more abusive,
what the Doc did was the right procedure, there are Junior Doctors and senior Doctors, entry level is as a Junior Doctor
if my memory serves me right, there is Junior Doctor, Senior doctors and SPR on call at all times

Don't blame the doctor
Blame jamb for its ineffiency
Blame the porous nature of
Our Education system
That makes medicine
A play ground for mediocres
A registered and certificated Nigerian doctor
Is treated with cynicism
In Europe
And America
It's more of theory and memory work
In Nigeria.
If you don't want to die untimely
Seek medical attention
Abroad
Like wise PMB did.
This is my wise counsel to all.
The drug overdose alone
The said consultant directed
The puppet doctor to administer
Alone can kill the patient.
The consultant may be
Doing private practice while he
Was supposed to be
On duty.
The Ogas in Govt hospitals
Leave the lives of poor patients
In the hands of baby doctors
Who passed through a disabled
Education System
In Nigeria.
The doctor should do well to
Take care of the kids
She left behind
Hence when she visits again
She may not stand by the window,
She may lay on the bed
With you all night.

@duketunde
You obviously are a Christian, born again and filled with the Holy Spirit.
So what she (the ghost) was saying obviously, is that you should have joined your faith with hers when you saw that medical science had failed!
Doctors (especially born again Christians) know that there's a limit to medical science solutions but our God is limitless! So after you've done all you know to do and the case looks hopeless, speak in other tongues and agree with the patient ( especially if they are Christians like yourself)

The lady just came to let you know you could do more than proffer medical solutions! Intact its for reason like this that God has you in that hospital so you could save many from premature death!

Hope you've learnt from this encounter and will help others subsequently. It is well with you @duketunde

Its a crazy world mehn... Okay here is my take on where it went wrong.


You did your medical best, going for Rocephine 2g and all plus Metro. [√]

Did you put your WILL Did you back it up with FAITH

I feel you were doing just fine, until your chief came along and killed her by telling you PRIVATELY she stood no chance, and that you should carry on "masterly activity".

Haaaa!!! Why He asked you to give up on her, let her die cos he assessed she woudnt make it. And in the mean time, you can occupy ursef with " masterly activities ". Please what does that mean

Sorry am not condemning, she asked YOU not to LET her die, you know why? Cos she believed its up to you. And that is why she followed you home.

Now we all know, medically there is nothing much you could do.

But on THE HIGHER PLANE, you could have done alot more. LOVE, WILL, FAITH, BELIEVE.




Sorry if you find this post offensive, I dont mean it that way, JUST MY BELIEVE.

duketunde:
"I encountered the ghost of a dead woman yesterday night/early hours of this morning. Remembering it still sends chills across my body.
Personally, I don't believe in ghosts. I know that it is appointed unto men once to die, and after that, judgment follows. I said let me tell you, to hear your opinion. I don't know who else to confide in about this. I'm a doctor. I can't be telling stories about ghosts online. No one will believe it. I'll sound insane.

Yesterday night that brought in today, I took call for a colleague who was having menstrual pain. She begged me to do the call for her. Then, a woman was brought in with what I suspected to be post surgical sepsis. The op site was soaked with effluent from the wound. The surgery was done at State Specialist Hospital three days prior to presenting to us. Her temperature read "Hi" on the thermometer, which means her body was so hot that the thermometer could not record it. I called my seniors who were in theatre then, told them what I have with me in the emergency, and I took instructions from them. I secured IV access. I gave 2g of IV cefriaxone (Rocephin brand) stat, and IV Flagyl 500mg stat. She was going. I called my seniors again and told them temperature is not coming down after one hour. I was told to give IV PCM 600mg stat. I then reopened the wound, washed with NS, and redressed with savlon and povidone iodine.

She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

She finally died after few hours she was brought in. I certified her dead in her file, disconnected all life support, and went to my house to sleep around 3am when the call got less busy. I was weak and sad. Did you know, this woman followed me home. I was shocked when I felt there was someone looking at me from my window. My body was shaking. I've never believed in ghosts, but she came to my window and stood there, with same clothes she was wearing when she was brought in. She said why did I allow her to die. I was lost for words for a moment, thinking I was dreaming. But damn, it wasn't a dream. I just drank coke from the fridge few minutes ago. I rebuked her in Jesus' name, telling her I did my best. I told her to go back to where she came from. She stood there for a while, looking at me, then turned and walked away. I heard her footsteps as she walked away. I didn't sleep again till morning. I opened the fridge and took out coke and drank, to be sure I was not dreaming, then started praying in tongues to control the fear in my heart."

What can be a reasonable explanation for this?

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tell this to the babies.. brother u were dreaming

Airforce1:
Your efforts weren't good enough

Are you kidding me?
He did what he could as a human!

It wasn't his fault!

Dumaknesset:



Yoruba Christian! What is wrong with you guys, can't you just see things beyond ethnicity, a woman and a mother died. I see your post as justification for something you might not know his entirely your fault. Just cure yourself of ethnic and religious bigotry.

This is just too common from our Eastern folks. I was correcting Afam4eva for the same thing on a thread some says ago. it's just so irritating and annoying.

ZKOSOSO:
My take on this event is that the Doctor had enough skills on the Job to save her but somehow could not use all the powers in him to save her from death.
Remember she could only blame him after her elevation or transition to higher plain of knowledge and existence. At her dead state, she knows a million things on a single thing in this life. Experience taught me this.

She was right. The Doctor should do more to save others in similar circumstances in future.

you are right but remember that she just died and most people dont accept being dead especially if they have failed to achieve their purpose on numerous lifetimes. The reason the doctor saw her was that she has so much humanoid feelings that she became appearable and maybe because the doctor connected with her emotionally before she died. Things happens bro, i hope her guide would appear to help her transit to the higher planes.

Airforce1:

From what I read here, he's not even a qualified doctor yet they allowed him to treat on a patient in critical condition.

Where were the senior doctors at that he had to call them on phone to seek for guardance..


Or are they short staffed?

Your posts are myopic, irrational and childish.

You can't make blanket statements like "you didn't do enough", especially in a profession you know next to nothing about. Plus, you don't know the limitations, circumstances and resources he have available to him. Doctors cannot perform miracles, only God does.

Plus, why fault him for the absense of more Senior staff? Hospitals are not charitable organizations, huge money goes into stocking the place and putting in more Senior Doctors in the hospital 24/7 as this happened during a night shift, at which time I guess you were soundly asleep with no care in the world. I don't know if you would have felt better if he had done nothing or fail to consult or seek the opinion of a colleague or someone higher up.

Sometimes, if you don't have anything useful to contribute, silence is golden.

Please, do the needful and apologize to the OP, they are doing a thankless job and you will weep bitterly, if Doctors tell you how little they get paid and how little management and government thinks about and treat them. Most of them do it, for the love they have for the profession.

[quote author=Airforce1 post=56933004]Your efforts weren't good enough[/quote


Are you alright? What type of condemnation is this? What else should he have done?

Sometimes when people have wrong ideas in their heads they with it and can even act on them.

Op please pray for her to find rest especially by the time of her burial. If you know the family a responsible person should tell her to rest that they will take of her children. She is obviously worried about them

u tried ur best. Doctors treat but God heals. As for d ghost! I still don't believe in its existence. Ghost does not exist in my dictionary.

Someone who died in your presence appeared at your window and you started rebuking her in Jesus name instead of asking her what she wants.....obviously she wasn't there to harm you because you didn't kill her! Maybe she wanted to tell you something because you were the closest person to her when she passed.

Airforce1:
Your efforts weren't good enough

What is your field of study please?

eph123:


Exactly.
Wasn't it just few days ago LUTH doctors were protesting about delayed salary payments?
Until all government officials are forced to use the medical facilities in Nigeria, we're going nowhere.

U no say e no fit work. Even one man dey away dey treat himself who go want stay.

Bobby808:
I am not a doctor but an old man. The area am not too saitsfied is the other senior doctor who were only giving instructions. Unless they were also face to face with other very severe cases, I expect them to take over the treatment. If your patient was under that care of a doctor who usually take instructions from senior doctors and eventually the patient died, am sure you won't be happy. The impression that will follow will be that if the the senior doctor had taken over, the dead person may not have given up. How do you think?

The patient came into the hospital as an emergency. In such cases, the first doctor available irrespective of rank should attend to the patient. Furthermore, we are told that the other doctors were in the operating theatre. If they were to leave the patient on the operating table, that would mean almost certain death.

What the doctor did was correct given the circumstance. He started emergency care and asked for advice on any added treatment he should give. Unfortunately, the patient died despite his efforts.

Maybe in another country she may have survived. But her death is not due to the doctors negligence. If a senior had been present, she most likely would still have died given her condition.

Nigeria is a very bad country to fall sick. Our hospitals lack facilities. No drugs. No light. No equipment. No bed space. Patients don't have money. They present to hospital late. Doctors and nurses learn advanced techniques in school but cannot practice them on the ground. Lab scientists beg for chemical reagents and microscopes.
How can we lack doctors and nurses and still export the few we have to Europe the middle East and America ? How can 'a whole' President go abroad for treatment and abandon his people to die at home? .
How can we watch unconcerned while Saraki and Dogara propose to spend 150 billion on 365 people in the NASS while the remaining 180 million are left to die?

This is madness. Nigerian madness.
.
The solution is REVOLUTION. Unless and until we revolt and deal with the thieves in power; sack all of them and get better governance; we will continue to die like fowl.

That is the truth.
Thank you sir for your question.

Eaa247:
u tried ur best. Doctors treat but God heals. As for d ghost! I still don't believe in its existence. Ghost does not exist in my dictionary.

We too dey pity person out of emotional nonsense.

Doctor, you did your best.

Pray about it. She is dead, she is dead.

It's possibly a demon using her image to appear and hunt you. Familiar spirits!

Pray against and bind and rebuke familiar spirits. Your prayers must be specific to yield results.
Also the living and the dead have nothing in common- nothing to communicate about.

Don't be afraid. Wish her to rip and then pray against that familiar spirit.

Stay sound.

duketunde:
"I encountered the ghost of a dead woman yesterday night/early hours of this morning. Remembering it still sends chills across my body.
Personally, I don't believe in ghosts. I know that it is appointed unto men once to die, and after that, judgment follows. I said let me tell you, to hear your opinion. I don't know who else to confide in about this. I'm a doctor. I can't be telling stories about ghosts online. No one will believe it. I'll sound insane.

Yesterday night that brought in today, I took call for a colleague who was having menstrual pain. She begged me to do the call for her. Then, a woman was brought in with what I suspected to be post surgical sepsis. The op site was soaked with effluent from the wound. The surgery was done at State Specialist Hospital three days prior to presenting to us. Her temperature read "Hi" on the thermometer, which means her body was so hot that the thermometer could not record it. I called my seniors who were in theatre then, told them what I have with me in the emergency, and I took instructions from them. I secured IV access. I gave 2g of IV cefriaxone (Rocephin brand) stat, and IV Flagyl 500mg stat. She was going. I called my seniors again and told them temperature is not coming down after one hour. I was told to give IV PCM 600mg stat. I then reopened the wound, washed with NS, and redressed with savlon and povidone iodine.

She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

She finally died after few hours she was brought in. I certified her dead in her file, disconnected all life support, and went to my house to sleep around 3am when the call got less busy. I was weak and sad. Did you know, this woman followed me home. I was shocked when I felt there was someone looking at me from my window. My body was shaking. I've never believed in ghosts, but she came to my window and stood there, with same clothes she was wearing when she was brought in. She said why did I allow her to die. I was lost for words for a moment, thinking I was dreaming. But damn, it wasn't a dream. I just drank coke from the fridge few minutes ago. I rebuked her in Jesus' name, telling her I did my best. I told her to go back to where she came from. She stood there for a while, looking at me, then turned and walked away. I heard her footsteps as she walked away. I didn't sleep again till morning. I opened the fridge and took out coke and drank, to be sure I was not dreaming, then started praying in tongues to control the fear in my heart."

What can be a reasonable explanation for this?

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First of all, you shouldn't have rebuked her, since she's didn't do anything wrong. She didn't die either, she's still alive existing in our real nature- like pure energy in a hologram. She's now free existing in full power to experience life in another dimension where she could literally be to any location in the universe at the speed of thought.

What's a hologram?

Singer Will.I.am beamed live to CNN as hologram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoOTqT-SMI

Reporter beamed live to CNN as hologram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOxW19vsTg

You better go an' fill your fridge with more and more cokes

Because...

She'll be back

In fact, she will continue visiting thee until she's finally buried

A neighbor once died in a road accident

He continued visiting at nights and making a lot of noise

It got so terrible that many occupants had to run to other places to sleep at night

The nightly visits continued until one tenant, a very brave young man, summoned enough courage and addressed the unseen being

He told him to go and rest and stop disturbing the peace in the neighborhood because no one in the compound killed him

The night disturbance ended as from that day

Una don come again

ken55:
Someone who died in your presence appeared at your window and you started rebuking her in Jesus name instead of asking her what she wants.....obviously she wasn't there to harm you because you didn't kill her! Maybe she wanted to tell you something because you were the closest person to her when she passed.

Makes sense but the Bible says, the dead and the living have nothing in common. It is no longer her. She has gone for judgement.
It is a demon!
A familiar spirit!

erico2k2:

Hows that abusive,
you initial response is more abusive,
what the Doc did was the right procedure, there are Junior Doctors and senior Doctors, entry level is as a Junior Doctor
if my memory serves me right, there is Junior Doctor, Senior doctors and SPR on call at all times

ok, but if a Junior Doctor handle a critical patient and the patient die , no one to blame than such doctor because of being Junior handled senior Doctor's job, lack of enough knowledge/experience will make the work faulty which will result in loosen the life of such patient

Here is what happened your own familiar Spirit is the one tormenting you, this is why your demon opened your eyes, we all have familiar spirits,we all have familiar sins that we are accustomed to doing.So it aint gat nothing to do with the woman,she's dead already, your demon used that opportunity to open your "eyes" some call it pineal gland.

luminouz:
Ghosts are real though! I am a scientist n DAT assertion is based on my personal experience! Without concrete proof I would look more like a fvcking fruitcake to Raine80!!!!
Here goes!!!
I was like 12 years old in secondary SKUL n being a 'pako' pikin, I always ignore visiting days because I know no one would come to visit me! That day I was sad seeing other kids parents come to SKUL to visit them with a lotta goodies! I was with my best friend Ayo who wasnt also visited! At a point I felt d urge to piss n walked to d loo,a timber n iron structure crudely hewn together. I was a few feet to d loo when I heard my maternal grandpa's voice n I turned around n i swear to God! There he was in his best embroidered Agbada n d eleti aja(dog-eared) cap looking as if he is going for a wedding! I sold there gawking at him(strangely I wasn't even afraid) while he said he just came to greet me dat he hasn't seen his favourite daughter's son in a while...he smiled after n vanished!
How long I stood there i would never know! But as young as I was I still remembered d blazing sun on my scalp(meaning it was 12-2pm afternoon time).
My mum came DAT NIGHT! Crying n when i asked her she just said my father! My father! Then I said yes he came today to see me! U should have seen the look on my mother's face....I went ahead to describe him n what he wore n she burst into fresh tears saying DAT Agbada outfit was his favourite n she was his favourite daughter too!

Apart from my mum,I never told anyone else...not even my best friend!!!

I experienced something like this when my grandma died too. I was still small in pry 2 or 3 and was not even aware of her sickness but I felt her presence in school almost 3 times before I fell asleep only to wake with a very nasty headache and high temperature. I was excused to go home before closing hour only to be met with a wailing crowd of mourners.



She used to be overly protective of and I was her favorite grandson by miles.




Continue to rest in peace grandma

This is man inwomanity to man

coolest0:
Am not gonna blame a colleague for what he ought or ought not has done, the patient was DOA(dead on arrival) so no matter what the doctor do, she's still is going to die because the post surgical sepsis has already taken over her system and she's a light waiting to go out but I have a few analysis to clear the air on those arguing Wether the doctor is competent or not


1. A surgery done three days prior in a state specialist cannot be that worse even if the patient refuse to take any antibiotics since after the surgery (which is not possible because the patient's antibiotics must have been monitored by the nurses unless the patient was discharged immediately after surgery).

2. Taking orders from superiors is paramount and normal in a teaching and specialist hospitals but you can't be asking your consultant or senior colleagues for advice one hour later before giving paracetamol 600mg to a patient whose temp is off the chart,
You gave cephalosporin good, you have antiamoebic good, then you stop, no anti pyretic given and you went to sit down until one hour later before giving pcm, totally wrong on that

Conclusion: the op is probably a doctor but probably on his first week of house manship

God bless you for this analysis.

Airforce1:
Your efforts weren't good enough

Weed smoking has taken a toll on ur lazy skull. That lady probably has a bad spirit following her, the woman is gone but the evil spirit is trying to torment the OP by acting like the dead woman, thank God the OP is a spirit filled Christian.

Given the circumstances where the patient was almost moribund before she was referred there wasn't much a Doctor could do. Although she was apparently able to speak coherently that temperature and the little history available indicates severe septicemia. I wonder what her blood pressure and pulse were like and whether she was on saline or other relevant infusion. Was she anemic? Did she require blood transfusion?

Cefriaxone is a very good third generation cephalosporin with broad spectrum activity although its effect on gram positive bacteria is less than that of some other cephalosporins, and Cefriaxone is a long acting drug. Flagyl given 500mg I/v is a good heroic measure for probable gram negative sepsis, but should a continuos infusion along with a cocktail of highly active antibiotics and perhaps a blood transfusion as well ( depending on her Hb and PCV. In the whole it is a good effort by the young Doctor but it is also a reflection of the poor condition of healthcare and lack of professional capacity especially at the provincial hospitals level.

The ghost, in my view , was unfare to the young doctor , she should perhaps visit the referring hospital, the ministry of health and the government house for explanations.