Its a mere hallucinations.
he over think about the words she said before she pass on. like don't let me die I have little kids" is very touching. he has might felt guilty as if he was the one that couldn't do much to save her. OUT OF THE TOO MUCH THOUGHT COMES THE HALLUCINATION. NL


It happened to me here... I use to see my ex some early hour in the morning appearing physical to me (she is alive) I know I was really missing her and full of her thought within me. NOT GHOST

KAYD007:


Should junior doctors in our hospitals be allowed to handle cases of life and death situation without the physical presence of a senior doctors?

Let's not display ignorance. A good doctor is the one who knows his/her limit and ask for help when needed

IamaNigerianGuy:


Your posts are getting more irritating with every iteration.
The doctors management of this patient will pass the test of competence ANYWHERE in the world. If you have a better management plan given the history and presentation of the patient, please let us know.

Must you comment ? Especially on things you know nothing about?

This Airforce 1 guy posts stupid things that make me wonder about his sanity..

skypeme:


Well I think its your fault, you should have tried your best and commit your best into Gods hand to take control, who knows may be if you have administer more drugs she could have made it back to live , 2ndly you should have explained with remorse that there was nothing you could do again rather than telling her to go back to where she came from, she needed your help and as a medical doctor, she confided in you but you failed her.

You need to go to church and pray for 4giveness

u r so short sighted & unable to reason correctly. Ur comment is the worst ive seen on nairaland. If we can successfully get rid of folks like u from this country, I believe Nigeria will be great. Now, take a moment, go thru ur comment & reason like an educated fellow. I wish u the best

ken55:
Someone who died in your presence appeared at your window and you started rebuking her in Jesus name instead of asking her what she wants.....obviously she wasn't there to harm you because you didn't kill her! Maybe she wanted to tell you something because you were the closest person to her when she passed.

She already said.what she wanted naaa! N u d all knowing guy.....have u seen a ghost before?
Don't be too sure of ur English speaking skills till u have.met one!

Airforce1:

From what I read here, he's not even a qualified doctor yet they allowed him to treat on a patient in critical condition.

Where were the senior doctors at that he had to call them on phone to seek for guardance..


Or are they short staffed?

You are an ILLITERATE.

mekuzi09:
That could be a vision that was prompted by too much stress. Its more like light mode hallucination.

Its called PTSD; Post traumatic stress disorder. He was probably shaken and stressed by his shift and the death of the woman must have left him disturbed, which inturn lead to hallucinations.

GHOST ARE REAL I remenbered when I lost my mom, couple of minutes after receiving the call, my dogs started barking as never before they kept staring, barking and also trying to charge at something I still can't explain....

idu1:
My friend no be u kill her. If u see her again tell to gerarahere!

You sounds like a professional ghost caster.
I really wish the woman could visit you this night and you help the doc to tell her ''gerahere menh''.

Atlanticfire:


So if you are given this same case, will you repeat what the doctor did and the woman died?

Why not treat the abnormally high temperature first before worrying about antibiotics. The woman even stated convulsing before he started to trying to reduce the patient temperature.

Cases like these should be reviewed by a medical board so that doctors and public health administrators can learn from it. Even the situations that made the woman to get post operative infection should be identified and corrected.

So you honestly think adults have febrile convulsions?
If she convulsed at all, it's not because of the high temperature but because of the septicaemia she had. She had overwhelming sepsis no doubt.
Note the word OVERWHELMING.
Paracetamol given immediately wouldn't have helped her in this case. The antibiotics should come first, as it did.
The acute mgt of sepsis , no where does paracetamol come in.
Of course you give it to bring down the temp, but that's not important in the grand scheme of things. Your problem isn't the high temp at that moment, because even if the temp is down, it doesnt mean the sepsis has disappeared. Heck, some septic patients come in with hypothermia- lower temperature than normal.
Sepsis Six- You must rehydrate the patient with intravenous fluids, you must give oxygen, you must take blood cultures and other bloods for test, you must give antibiotics , and you must monitor the kidneys/ urine output.
The problem with sepsis is the organ damage that follows it, starting with the kidneys and subsequent other organ damage. The least of your problems is paracetamol. Antibiotic cover always comes first.

The successful treatment of a septic patient depends a lot on how early they present. They have a better prognosis if picked early. Every surgery has the possibility of getting the wound infected, but not every wound infection becomes septicaemic.
A Dr - GP died recently in the UK from sepsis. He was said to be one of the best GPs in the country. Even he didn't understand he was septic. He thought he had the flu and didn't present on time. He died in the hospital when his organs had failed already.

eph123:
Airforce1 has been ambushed on this thread

I swear down, na him ambush himself o. Just wish this thread can be replicated with a lot of NL resident ignoramuses.

Kathmandu:
That one died after his first single

Pure wickedness

duketunde:
"I encountered the ghost of a dead woman yesterday night/early hours of this morning. Remembering it still sends chills across my body.
Personally, I don't believe in ghosts. I know that it is appointed unto men once to die, and after that, judgment follows. I said let me tell you, to hear your opinion. I don't know who else to confide in about this. I'm a doctor. I can't be telling stories about ghosts online. No one will believe it. I'll sound insane.

Yesterday night that brought in today, I took call for a colleague who was having menstrual pain. She begged me to do the call for her. Then, a woman was brought in with what I suspected to be post surgical sepsis. The op site was soaked with effluent from the wound. The surgery was done at State Specialist Hospital three days prior to presenting to us. Her temperature read "Hi" on the thermometer, which means her body was so hot that the thermometer could not record it. I called my seniors who were in theatre then, told them what I have with me in the emergency, and I took instructions from them. I secured IV access. I gave 2g of IV cefriaxone (Rocephin brand) stat, and IV Flagyl 500mg stat. She was going. I called my seniors again and told them temperature is not coming down after one hour. I was told to give IV PCM 600mg stat. I then reopened the wound, washed with NS, and redressed with savlon and povidone iodine.

She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

She finally died after few hours she was brought in. I certified her dead in her file, disconnected all life support, and went to my house to sleep around 3am when the call got less busy. I was weak and sad. Did you know, this woman followed me home. I was shocked when I felt there was someone looking at me from my window. My body was shaking. I've never believed in ghosts, but she came to my window and stood there, with same clothes she was wearing when she was brought in. She said why did I allow her to die. I was lost for words for a moment, thinking I was dreaming. But damn, it wasn't a dream. I just drank coke from the fridge few minutes ago. I rebuked her in Jesus' name, telling her I did my best. I told her to go back to where she came from. She stood there for a while, looking at me, then turned and walked away. I heard her footsteps as she walked away. I didn't sleep again till morning. I opened the fridge and took out coke and drank, to be sure I was not dreaming, then started praying in tongues to control the fear in my heart."

What can be a reasonable explanation for this?

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First, that is proof that there is life after death and the soul survives the body after death. Second, that wasn't her 'ghost' you saw. That was her spirit or soul trying to come to terms with her sudden death. Ghosts are more like long-dead spirits that have refused to cross over into the afterlife after their death and have remained stuck on the earth plane. Third, there was no need to even fear in the first place because spirits can't harm you especially if they were good people while alive. This is really where good knowledge of the afterlife comes in. Upon dying, there's usually a very bright light (the phrase, light at the end of the tunnel comes from this) coming through a 'circular' tunnel which every soul sees and is supposed to move towards but for some reason some souls, sensing that could be the 'heaven' they've heard of on earth, choose not to move into the light for different reasons (such as 'I lived a bad life on earth, that's heaven if I enter there i'll encounter 'harsh' judgment so I better hang around on this earth plane for now', or 'I didn't 'repent' before I died that means I'm going to hell if I enter that light and encounter my judgment' (which is an erroneous teaching/belief), or those that are too tied to their accumulated physical wealth and assets unable to leave them behind or some that were over-addicted to physical pleasures such as drinking, smoking, sex, etc. (doing things with moderation is the key here) and were unable to overcome it before death came visiting to the extent that such desires penetrated into their souls and after death their souls still crave for earthly pleasures, so they choose to hang around on the earth plane to look for mortals still in the flesh to use their bodies momentarily to keep satisfying those cravings etc.). Seeing that she was praying before her death, I would tell immediately that she had some level of understanding of the afterlife and upon seeing her 'spirit' you would tell her all is well, her children will be ok and she should move into the bright light that she sees. Sometimes, people die so suddenly that for the first few moments after death they are surprised at what happened and are trying to come to terms with what happened, especially those who never gave any thought to what happens after death while they were alive but were busy chasing after material things. Some wonder why they can talk or see people but others cannot see or hear them. It's confusing to many. A good example would be the 9/11 terrorist attack in NY where over 2,600 people lost their lives. Majority of the people that died were in the twin towers when suddenly they heard a very loud noise and everywhere blacked out, then suddenly they could see what was going on around them but couldn't understand what had just happened to them (sudden death). Excavators or workers at the site of the twin towers reported that they often saw 'black masses' or 'shadows' hovering around the site when they were working on finding any human remains so the owner could be identified through DNA testing. These masses were the souls of the dead still unable to grasp what had just happened. Then they also reported seeing the spirit of a woman with dress style of the 1940s serving 'sandwiches'. She's said to be a 'soul collector' sent to gather or redirect majority of these souls who were confused into the light. For majority of people dying, they often believe in the afterlife or some sort of place after death and they cross over successfully. Unfortunately, some souls get stuck in-between.

It is none of your fault if you did all you could do to sustain her and she still didn't make it. Who knows if it was her time to die? Truth be told not everyone will live to good old 90 years. It's happening around us. Some people were destined to live that long, some were destined to live shorter lives. It's reality. Also, some Nigerians take religiosity to the extreme that when they fall sick they choose to not go to the hospital for treatment but instead to prayer houses and when their ailments get so bad they rush to the hospital expecting doctors to perform a miracle when it's too late already.

https://www.nairaland.com/3805698/what-must-know-before-die

DanseMacabre:



I swear down, na him ambush himself o. Just wish this thread can be replicated with a lot of NL resident ignoramuses.

Looool. He has told me he doesn't want anyone's pity, so I will not put my mouth there again

Airforce1:
Your efforts weren't good enough

what more would he have done,perform magic or what? Think before talk man.

What must be must be,doc did his best

Airforce1:

From what I read here, he's not even a qualified doctor yet they allowed him to treat on a patient in critical condition.

Where were the senior doctors at that he had to call them on phone to seek for guardance..


Or are they short staffed?

Welcome to Nigeria

duketunde:
"I encountered the ghost of a dead woman yesterday night/early hours of this morning. Remembering it still sends chills across my body.
Personally, I don't believe in ghosts. I know that it is appointed unto men once to die, and after that, judgment follows. I said let me tell you, to hear your opinion. I don't know who else to confide in about this. I'm a doctor. I can't be telling stories about ghosts online. No one will believe it. I'll sound insane.

Yesterday night that brought in today, I took call for a colleague who was having menstrual pain. She begged me to do the call for her. Then, a woman was brought in with what I suspected to be post surgical sepsis. The op site was soaked with effluent from the wound. The surgery was done at State Specialist Hospital three days prior to presenting to us. Her temperature read "Hi" on the thermometer, which means her body was so hot that the thermometer could not record it. I called my seniors who were in theatre then, told them what I have with me in the emergency, and I took instructions from them. I secured IV access. I gave 2g of IV cefriaxone (Rocephin brand) stat, and IV Flagyl 500mg stat. She was going. I called my seniors again and told them temperature is not coming down after one hour. I was told to give IV PCM 600mg stat. I then reopened the wound, washed with NS, and redressed with savlon and povidone iodine.

She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

She finally died after few hours she was brought in. I certified her dead in her file, disconnected all life support, and went to my house to sleep around 3am when the call got less busy. I was weak and sad. Did you know, this woman followed me home. I was shocked when I felt there was someone looking at me from my window. My body was shaking. I've never believed in ghosts, but she came to my window and stood there, with same clothes she was wearing when she was brought in. She said why did I allow her to die. I was lost for words for a moment, thinking I was dreaming. But damn, it wasn't a dream. I just drank coke from the fridge few minutes ago. I rebuked her in Jesus' name, telling her I did my best. I told her to go back to where she came from. She stood there for a while, looking at me, then turned and walked away. I heard her footsteps as she walked away. I didn't sleep again till morning. I opened the fridge and took out coke and drank, to be sure I was not dreaming, then started praying in tongues to control the fear in my heart."

What can be a reasonable explanation for this?

Credit: Chukwudi Iwuchukwu on https://web.facebook.com/chukwudi.iwuchukwu?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

well if this is true...the best you can do is pray and find a way to meet her kids, help them in so ever way you can.

her ghost came to you only bkos she is angry that she eventually died..she will move on

The doctor did the right thing. Is just that our society don't appreciate doctors. And many people don't know anything about medical profession. After 72hrs of sepsis what do you expect. In our society people bring complicated cases to the hospital and want the doctor to perform miracles and when you don't you are evil and a quack, not even considering the circumstances. Anyway for people spewing nonsense on this thread, write UTME and enroll for medicine and in the next three months I bet you will appreciate the effort of the OP.

It's not a ghost but your feeling,thinking because of what the woman said that make you feel that way. It's not possible anywhere in the world for a ghost to appear before you. It was not her but her Jinn. You have tried your best if Allah want her to live she won't die.

;Dthe Doctor is not to blamed in anyway for her death,just that her time is up;secondly,some people are cultist/green-witches while they lived...in thesame vein their corpse tends to be sturbborn/resistance when they die as they don't want to be condemned,judged or sent to hell...let's us do good while we live,so we would'nt be scared of death when it comes.

The doctor did the right thing. Is just that our society don't appreciate doctors. And many people don't know anything about medical profession. After 72hrs of sepsis what do you expect. In our society people bring complicated cases to the hospital and want the doctor to perform miracles and when you don't you are evil and a quack, not even considering the circumstances. Anyway for people spewing nonsense on this thread, write UTME and enroll for medicine and in the next three months I bet you will appreciate the effort of the OP. And this Airforce 1 guy, he needs to be mentally evaluated at Yaba, I think he has both psychosis and nuerosis.

victorDanladi:
You have problem.



you came up with the doctor incompetence you were busted.



you then came up with the number of doctors?



just rewrite UTME and spend 8years in medical school..
may be your own consultant will teach you:



-the pathogenesis of death
-Anti-death drug and its pharmacology
-Anti-deathoplasty,the procedure and complication.


It's better you just face your musical carrier!

Which music career?

Airforce1:

If he's qualified, why put a call across a colleague on what drug to give a patient in critical condition?

Bro, you learn about medical ethics before commenting. Its in the interest of the patients when a doctor calls a senior doctor for further patients management.

carzola:
Half baked doctor.. That had to call His senior colleagues First before treating An emergency victim..

Obviously her blood Is on your head that's Why she cant live you
I will advice you visit her Family and see how you an help her Kids..

.. Guys calm down

Let's be truthful. In such s life a threatening case, you don't handle it as a junior reg/Corper or house officer. At first instance, you would have insisted that elder colleague (consultant or senior reg) be present. Because, all duty calls spring upto them. I believe only stable patients can be handled on mere phone calls conversations.

Brother, human being can lie, but spirit don't lie. For her to follow you home and utter such words means there was something that could have saved her life.

Precisely, from her Post-CS history, her death was actually due to peritonitis shock(secondary to uterine dehiscence), that could have been prevented by experience elder colleague through emergency surgery.

These are the decadence in public hospitals. Consultants and senior reg can never do call duties, but been paid for it.

My brother, pray God to give her soul comfort and everlasting rest. May her soul rest in peace...Amen!

Airforce1:

If he's qualified, why put a call across a colleague on what drug to give a patient in critical condition?

like they said, you know nothing about medical practice

adadike281:
U did your best. if God wants, he would have let her live. if she comes again, tell her to table her case before God, that u did your best. it might even be a demon in disguise and not d actual ghost. free your mind and maybe spend days with a family member or close friend. ndo, jisike.

.. Ya might b a demon o

IamaNigerianGuy:


They just come here to spew thrash. Most of them have not even successfully written jamb.

Dude trying to protect his colleague....i wont say he x not qualified tho,in every field there r superiors.

victorDanladi:
You have problem.



you came up with the doctor incompetence you were busted.



you then came up with the number of doctors?



just rewrite UTME and spend 8years in medical school..
may be your own consultant will teach you:



-the pathogenesis of death
-Anti-death drug and its pharmacology
-Anti-deathoplasty,the procedure and complication.


It's better you just face your musical carrier!

Nna just look at d upper cut you gave that boi. he is just seeking attention. he don't even understand 0.5% of wat u just said. anyway I do n people like dat shouldn't get u stressed at all cos na dem de Sidon for back of class de talk for background.

Saeed348:
i

Thank you Bro, my thought too, He tried his best tho
But antipyretic first then the antibiotics. Ceftriazone and metro can't crash down the fever immediately

PCM 600mg IV was the even the wrong choice of antipyretic for the situation , he was dealing with toxic overload and introducing another toxin like PCM was wrong , best choice should have been diclofenac with a potassium base

Airforce1:

If he's qualified, why put a call across a colleague on what drug to give a patient in critical condition?

you mumu no b small.
no b insult ooo cos I knw say u no knw.
u will never stop to show it.
carry on.