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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:51pm On May 30, 2017
obaaderemi:
Don't let anyone misinform you.His nationality was British.
I just checked encyclopedia,you are right,he left when he was three so I guess he is as British as they come.I used to think that he left in his mid 20s

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:57pm On May 30, 2017
genieluv:


Woww, so you mean 100% of those exquisite n luscious luxury resorts n parks Taysermahiri n mtis have been posting here are all privately owned by Kenyan individuals?
It's better when the government doesn't do some things. It encourages competition. The government is involved in policy making, publicity of various kenya as a destination in general, etc.

The resorts are private. Many are found with national parks and game reserves too, but they are just lease holders.

Parks are owned by:

- Government (National parks)

- Local communities (Game reserves) The Maasai and afew other communities have several of this on some of their communal lands.

- Private individual persons who have big parcels of land that also happen to have wildlife (also called game reserves.) Anyone can get a licence to do this.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:58pm On May 30, 2017
genieluv:


Yah, grin Aki n Paw paw movies have gone extinct as most Nigerians have move past that level >>>

Buh some of these old comic actors like NKEM OWOH, the guy's picture on your post above still makes it into some 1st grade comic movies like this one below.

Issues of distrust n despisedness between a Ghanaian & Nigerian family to be joined together by marriage smiley
Now that one sounds interesting grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:00pm On May 30, 2017
9jakool:




Tiv did not evolve from Bantu languages or Proto-Bantu like the Bantu languages. Bantoid is a very vague and an uncertain language branch. It's also quite controversial.They are actually closer to other West African languages, but they show narrow features that are similar to Bantu. They are also not hybrid of West African languages and Bantu. Bantoid is a classification on its own. Tiv, Bantu languages, and lots of West African languages are all classified as Niger-Congo super family.


Heeey buddy, are you sure you are not misleading TayserMahiri & muafrika2?

I am from Benue state by origin (the Tiv homeland) and most Tivs accept and believe that they are of Bantu origins. yaah they do.
**** We the Idomas, Igedes, Yalas, Jukuns, Etulos, Kutebs, Alagos, Agatus and all the other ethnic groups neighbouring the Tivs in Benue, Taraba, Nasarawa and Cross river states are all from Kwararafa Kingdom by origin except the Tivs.

I studied all these histories about my people in the university. The Tivs came with a strong wave of migration from Congo area, (i think during the fall of the Kwararafa kingdom), and that was how they came to displace most of us the Kwararafan tribes, coupled with their high birth rates and expansionist lifestyles, they even cut off the Etulo people from Idomas and have almost culturally absorbed them today.
The Tivs are Bantu expansionist just like their other Bantu cousins who expanded and occupied almost the whole Africa, absorbing anyone on their way, that is why you see them fighting the Jukuns and other neighbouring ethnic groups in the middlebelt.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:09pm On May 30, 2017
I'll go with this version. Alot of mistakes have been made in the classification of people.

I've also always had a suspicion that the migration was from the Congo Basin to West, South and East

genieluv:



Heeey buddy, are you sure you are not misleading TayserMahiri & muafrika2?

I am from Benue state by origin (the Tiv homeland) and most Tivs accept and believe that they are of Bantu origins. yaah they do.
**** We the Idomas, Igedes, Yalas, Jukuns, Etulos, Kutebs, Alagos, Agatus and all the other ethnic groups neighbouring the Tivs in Benue, Taraba, Nasarawa and Cross river states are all from Kwararafa Kingdom by origin except the Tivs.

I studied all these histories about my people in the university. The Tivs came with a strong wave of migration from Congo area, (i think during the fall of the Kwararafa kingdom), and that was how they came to displace most of us the Kwararafan tribes, coupled with their high birth rates and expansionist lifestyles, they even cut off the Etulo people from Idomas and have almost culturally absorbed them today.
The Tivs are Bantu expansionist just like their other Bantu cousins who expanded and occupied almost the whole Africa, absorbing anyone on their way, that is why you see them fighting the Jukuns and other neighbouring ethnic groups in the middlebelt.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:10pm On May 30, 2017
Jayceon:
I just checked encyclopedia,you are right,he left when he was three so I guess he is as British as they come.I used to think that he left in his mid 20s
then you shouldnt have argue it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:12pm On May 30, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Kenya Tourism creates a lot of jobs. The hotels are of course private and pay taxes to the government but one has to pay directly to the government to access National Parks, Game Reserves and other tourist attractions.

Kk, tnks
What about the luxury resorts, garden parks n likes? Are they mostly part of hotels or they can exist independently? If yes, as private or public?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:14pm On May 30, 2017
vaxx:
first of all. Let me correct your misconception. I am africana. I value my culture and heritage first before the foreign religion. I am not a juju worshiper as u claim. Am a beliver in olodumare and ifa adherent. You call african mode of healing and miracle juju. But if your pastor perform miracle with water or oil is saint. I like the way you reason.

i have the history of homo and lesbi and how it start in the western and how werstern power became a super advocate of these ilicit act.

human right or illicit right. dont worry the western will soon legalise bestiality.

Kk, if you say so. Buh i tot you were a Ghanaian?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:16pm On May 30, 2017
Hbuyosh:


I would in fact like to see that movie Spider Girlgrin
I am very curious to know what is all about. I was quite amused when I came accross this other movie on tv about Beyonce, Shakira and Rihanna...No, it had nothing to do with the reknowned popstars. grin

Anyway, u cannot find any serious Kenyan watching these types of movies, and that is not to say that we view all the Nigerian movies negatively like that.
There are a number of movies and tv programs frm Nigeria that I have seen, they were quite of good quality, the plot twist.....just good.

Like this very first Nigerian movie I saw when I was still a boy in 2002, called "The Irony of Fate". I still remember that movie, it was great. I became interested in Nigerian movies for a while, however, over the years, all the other subsequent movies I saw were of bad quality, nearly all of them featured sorcery in their storyline, and it was very becoming monotonous.

Tinsels is also quite good.

But honestly, catch me dead watching those movies.

Kk. Nice to know smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:26pm On May 30, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Why do so many guys here watch K24 anyway? I can't imagine myself watching some shady TV channel in Nigeria.
what made it shady ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:42pm On May 30, 2017
Muafrika2:

It's better when the government doesn't do some things. It encourages competition. The government is involved in policy making, publicity of various kenya as a destination in general, etc.

The resorts are private. Many are found with national parks and game reserves too, but they are just lease holders.

Parks are owned by:

- Government (National parks)

- Local communities (Game reserves) The Maasai and afew other communities have several of this on some of their communal lands.

- Private individual persons who have big parcels of land that also happen to have wildlife (also called game reserves.) Anyone can get a licence to do this.


Cooool. This is lovely kiss

>>>>I think Kenyans need to lecture Nigerians about maintaining a beautiful environment.
I think it's a shame to we Nigerians that we claim to be civilized, fashionable and trendy yet we completely lack a good aesthetic appeal. The kind of pics i am seeing here from Kenya, seriously we have only a few or do not have such places at all in Nigeria.

Pls you guys should continue posting pictures of the beautiful Kenyan resorts, parks, gardens e.t.c. Perhaps it will provoke a better aesthetic taste for Nigerians. I myself am already provoked by these pictures.

I know many of my fellow Nigerians may not be happy with this comment of mine but it's the truth. I know everywhere in Kenya may not be beautiful, clean or aesthetically appealing, buh the point is that, the places that are beautiful, exquisite and clean are almost of world standards.

My fellow Nigerians should not see it as if i am condemning Nigeria totally, no. Of course not, we have other sectors in which we have excelled the most in Africa. Buh i think we should give to caesar what belongs to caesar.
Kenyans have a far far higher aesthetic taste than Nigerians, infact i am tempted to say that they are more civilized than us. (i may be using the wrong expression though).

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:55pm On May 30, 2017
68816419:
what made it shady ?
Your mother.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:03pm On May 30, 2017
NairobiWalker:


There's a difference between the worth of an industry and its profit. You're comparing your fashion industry's worth with our tourism industry's profit. That's just absurd.

Our entertainment and fashion industries are definitely growing faster than your tourism industry. So what profit are you talking about?
Or should we compare the net incomes of these industries?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:09pm On May 30, 2017
vaxx:
then you shouldnt have argue it.
point taken...























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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 7:12pm On May 30, 2017
Jayceon:
nothing is given for free in this world.A country with population of about 50 million is feedind a country of 200 million people SMFH,and we don't get the credit we deserve,all we get is insults embarassed

because you deserve insults,after treating our people like this,even if their were criminals...

their are many ways to punish criminals,not your way,stabbing people on the streets.... angry angry angry angry


sharap!.... angry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:15pm On May 30, 2017
9jakool:




Tiv did not evolve from Bantu languages or Proto-Bantu like the Bantu languages. Bantoid is a very vague and an uncertain language branch. It's also quite controversial.They are actually closer to other West African languages, but they show narrow features that are similar to Bantu. They are also not hybrid of West African languages and Bantu. Bantoid is a classification on its own. Tiv, Bantu languages, and lots of West African languages are all classified as Niger-Congo super family.

genieluv gave you a good explanation about the Tivs. I also agree with her.

Bantoid languages are under the Benue-Congo sub-group of the Niger-congo.
I don't see how that negates the Bantu origins of the Tivs, considering that the Bantus themselves migrated from that same Benue-congo region.

I think the Tivs obviously migrated eastwards to Benue axis of Nigeria from the Congo region at the time of the Bantu expansion.
As someone from the middlebelt too who has once shared the same state with the Tivs, it's true, most Kwararafan tribes neighbouring the Tivs describe the Tivs as expansionists and visitors to the Benue area. You don't know how much hatred many middlebelt tribes have for the Tivs until you visit Taraba, Benue and Southern Nasarawa. That Bantu expansionist blood runs in their veins and is part of their culture.

Jukuns and all Idomoid groups were neighbours before the Tivs came and cut them off. Infact the Agatus and Alagos (Idomoid groups) are still neighbours with Jukuns in Nasarawa state.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bantudra: 7:18pm On May 30, 2017
freshest4live:

You gave who civilization?

i didnt even bother to read all the rubbish...gave who what?.....

this south africans are going over their heads....we should remind them that they are nothing compared to nigeria...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:35pm On May 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


Our entertainment and fashion industries are definitely growing faster than your tourism industry. So what profit are you talking about?
Or should we compare the net incomes of these industries?

how much is Kenyan tourism sector worth and how much do they generate yearly?

I think Kenyan tourism sector is growing fast too....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:36pm On May 30, 2017
genieluv:



Cooool. This is lovely kiss

>>>>I think Kenyans need to lecture Nigerians about maintaining a beautiful environment.
I think it's a shame to we Nigerians that we claim to be civilized, fashionable and trendy yet we completely lack a good aesthetic appeal. The kind of pics i am seeing here from Kenya, seriously we have only a few or do not have such places at all in Nigeria.

Pls you guys should continue posting pictures of the beautiful Kenyan resorts, parks, gardens e.t.c. Perhaps it will provoke a better aesthetic taste for Nigerians. I myself am already provoked by these pictures.

I know many of my fellow Nigerians may not be happy with this comment of mine but it's the truth. I know everywhere in Kenya may not be beautiful, clean or aesthetically appealing, buh the point is that, the places that are beautiful, exquisite and clean are almost of world standards.

My fellow Nigerians should not see it as if i am condemning Nigeria totally, no. Of course not, we have other sectors in which we have excelled the most in Africa. Buh i think we should give to caesar what belongs to caesar.
Kenyans have a far far higher aesthetic taste than Nigerians, infact i am tempted to say that they are more civilized than us. (i may be using the wrong expression though).

Chai genie, why why why?
It seems like a Kenyan guy has won your heart oo grin who is he?

You may have some points though, but i think it is a mutual thing. Ask yourself or ask your Kenyan friends, apart from a great tourism industry, what else can Kenya really offer better than Nigeria? Nothing.
Kenya also has some of the most terrible sights in Africa.
Of what use is a very beautiful neighbourhood with resorts, parks, garden and e.t.c when just beside it, there are huge slums everywhere with millions of people?

How much is their so called tourism sector worth or generating? Beautiful gardens are not enough to make an economic super power. .....It woud have been better if your Kenyan friends use all the money they spend in building luxury resorts in building industries and industrializing their country.
I am not against beauty or an aesthetically pleasing environment, but i think these are things that come in their own time. The oil curse had been the problem that crampled the minds of many Nigerians not to think into other sectors including tourism, but the curse is gradually fading.....
In a short time, a lot of things will fall in place.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:38pm On May 30, 2017
popizaino:
I know you are esan which of the towns?
Grand mother originally Esan but we've been in Benin City for a couple generations.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:38pm On May 30, 2017
genieluv:


Kk, if you say so. Buh i tot you were a Ghanaian?
yes i own a dual nationality
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:39pm On May 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


Chai genie, why why why?
It seems like a Kenyan guy has won your heart oo grin who is he?

You may have some points though, but i think it is a mutual thing. Ask yourself or ask your Kenyan friends, apart from a great tourism industry, what else can Kenya really offer better than Nigeria? Nothing.
Kenya also has some of the most terrible sights in Africa.
Of what use is a very beautiful neighbourhood with resorts, parks, garden and e.t.c when just beside it, there are huge slums everywhere with millions of people?

How much is their so called tourism sector worth or generating? Beautiful gardens are not enough to make an economic super power. .....It woud have been better if your Kenyan friends use all the money they spend in building luxury resorts in building industries and industrializing their country.
I am not against beauty or an aesthetically pleasing environment, but i think these are things that come in their own time. The oil curse had been the problem that crampled the minds of many Nigerians not to think into other sectors including tourism, but the curse is gradually fading.....
In a short time, a lot of things will fall in place.

oh God...........leave the girl alone na

she said Kenya has aesthetic appeal than Nigeria which is true and u're castigating her for that.

lets talk about the good thing and forget about the bad......time will heal everything

we're Africans and Africa is still at developing stage.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:44pm On May 30, 2017
obaaderemi:
HELL NO!HE ISN'T SOUTH AFRICAN.AND who is the ignoramus who liked this?He was as British as they come.Being born in S.A while his parents worked there didn't make him s.african.
Oh, sorry my mistake grin.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:46pm On May 30, 2017
vaxx:
the film center most on new zealand culture. read the concept. some of the movie was even shot in new zealand .so take your mind of the nationality of the producer but the content of the movie. It a fiction anyway
Ah okay, apologies. Wait New Zealand?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:46pm On May 30, 2017
shervydman:


how much is Kenyan tourism sector worth and how much do they generate yearly?

I think Kenyan tourism sector is growing fast too....

I have asked Kenyans this question times without number, but they always go dumb. They don't know or are too ashamed of the sector's worth.
Both Nigerian entertainment and fashion industries are worth estimated above $10 billion each, and these sectors grow faster coupled with the fact that we have the large markets for them and not too many competitors on the continent in these sectors.

Kenya's tourism have many competitors on the continent.
It's more expensive to build luxury resorts and maintain them compared to singing, acting or tailoring wears, don't you think?

Take this Wedding party movie for instance, the budget of the whole movie was #60 million but do you know that this movie made about #500 million within only weeks in the blockbusters/cinemas? Not to talk of the sales, sponsors e.t.c. ....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:48pm On May 30, 2017
Isahalbash:






Ur head dey dere. Shey Africans don't have history?


We always acting movies, where d galz put on " handkerchiefs( as skirts) and " singlets" as clothes.
Hahahahaha true
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:52pm On May 30, 2017
genieluv:



Cooool. This is lovely kiss

>>>>I think Kenyans need to lecture Nigerians about maintaining a beautiful environment.
I think it's a shame to we Nigerians that we claim to be civilized, fashionable and trendy yet we completely lack a good aesthetic appeal. The kind of pics i am seeing here from Kenya, seriously we have only a few or do not have such places at all in Nigeria.

Pls you guys should continue posting pictures of the beautiful Kenyan resorts, parks, gardens e.t.c. Perhaps it will provoke a better aesthetic taste for Nigerians. I myself am already provoked by these pictures.

I know many of my fellow Nigerians may not be happy with this comment of mine but it's the truth. I know everywhere in Kenya may not be beautiful, clean or aesthetically appealing, buh the point is that, the places that are beautiful, exquisite and clean are almost of world standards.

My fellow Nigerians should not see it as if i am condemning Nigeria totally, no. Of course not, we have other sectors in which we have excelled the most in Africa. Buh i think we should give to caesar what belongs to caesar.
Kenyans have a far far higher aesthetic taste than Nigerians, infact i am tempted to say that they are more civilized than us. (i may be using the wrong expression though).
Nigerians have no sense of aesthetics. My father is in one of the most beautiful islands in the Carribeans right now, but he had nothing to day about the scenery and didn't even notice it. Our lack of maintainance culturw is evident.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On May 30, 2017
Weka Muziki wacha Story guys... grin grin grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUXD-F0Sdg

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:56pm On May 30, 2017
68816419:
what made it shady ?
help me ask d guy oo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:58pm On May 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


I have asked Kenyans this question times without number, but they always go dumb. They don't know or are too ashamed of the sector's worth.
Both Nigerian entertainment and fashion industries are worth estimated above $10 billion each, and these sectors grow faster coupled with the fact that we have the large markets for them and not too many competitors on the continent in these sectors.

Kenya's tourism have many competitors on the continent.
It's more expensive to build luxury resorts and maintain them compared to singing, acting or tailoring wears, don't you think?

Take this Wedding party movie for instance, the budget of the whole movie was #60 million but do you know that this movie made about #500 million within only weeks in the blockbusters/cinemas? Not to talk of the sales, sponsors e.t.c. ....

yes, I know our fashion and entertainment industry is worth a lot....it add comparatively to our GDP.

I also know Kenya is the 5th tourist destination in Africa, so the competition is not really high.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:58pm On May 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


I have asked Kenyans this question times without number, but they always go dumb. They don't know or are too ashamed of the sector's worth.
Both Nigerian entertainment and fashion industries are worth estimated above $10 billion each, and these sectors grow faster coupled with the fact that we have the large markets for them and not too many competitors on the continent in these sectors.

Kenya's tourism have many competitors on the continent.
It's more expensive to build luxury resorts and maintain them compared to singing, acting or tailoring wears, don't you think?

Take this Wedding party movie for instance, the budget of the whole movie was #60 million but do you know that this movie made about #500 million within only weeks in the blockbusters/cinemas? Not to talk of the sales, sponsors e.t.c. ....
Wait isn't tourism amount based on profit though and nollywood net worth is just its value? Correct me if wrong.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:59pm On May 30, 2017
bantudra:


i didnt even bother to read all the rubbish...gave who what?.....

this south africans are going over their heads....we should remind them that they are nothing compared to nigeria...
loooll who b south Africa

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