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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:01pm On May 31, 2017
Icon79:
Icons, we'll definitely be at the AFCON. And trust me, we'll beat South Africa on the 10th even if we're to play them with our C-team.

O pari


Recall Guinea stopped us from 2011 and this same SA and Congo PR(Brazaville) stopped us from 2015.

We need to be at our best against SA in Uyo. Remember also that head to head rule counts. We don't just need a win but a resounding win.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:02pm On May 31, 2017
Joebie:
Iwobi was groomed in England. Okay you are making a generalization. But the players in question are England-groomed Nigerians. We can focus on them. Does Lookman and Ejaria lack technical ability?

Ejaria is good but he's crabby one kind. Gets the ball, stops, turns back, turns side, moves. Doesn't flow.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:03pm On May 31, 2017
forgiveness:


But wrong feelings no gooood ooooooo. grin

Taaa na lie.

We know you wella here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:03pm On May 31, 2017
komekn:
Huh

I do not dispute what you are saying 28 games and 6 goals is not great. However, he does not play for Nigeria as out an out striker. So as a goal tally it is not that bad.

However, when he does play he makes a good positive contribution.

Considering his club form at what we can describe as top clubs not the creme de La creme of Europe but top league clubs in Europe he has done well. I mean 43 league games and 23 goals for Olympiacos is far from easy. That's why he got his big money bags move to China.

I do feel we are too quick to write off some of our ageing starts too quickly. Gyan for Ghana is still cutting it to some degree. I feel a better mixture of young and old would be better.

I do suspect that our NFF officials are trying to make arrangements and will impress upon Rohr options that are not to our best interest.

Consider Defoe who was written off by England and the EPL has just signed a £130k a week deal with Bournemouth and is back playing for the 3 Lions. Defoe is 2 years older than Obafemi 6 years older than Ideye and 6 years older than Efe Ambrose.

I see players in completely dead leagues being considered when our old guard tried, tested and some who are at top clubs are being ignored.

If you are not cutting it in your club with very limited exceptions like KC at City. You can't be invited to the SE.

Osimhen has played possible 10 minutes of football for lowly struggling Wolfsburg in two games and he is in the SE. That's simply not fair and sends a wrong signal when there are players who are cutting it week in and out for thier clubs.

Na wetin I dey talk tey tey bi dis but nobody wan hear.

Oga, you are right on point with ya last two paragraphs. In short, everything paragraphs dey kampe. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:06pm On May 31, 2017
Crabby? I beg to differ "BIGLY".
What video clips are you judging from? the current U20 WC? Club performances?

Mujtahida:

Ejaria is good but he's crabby one kind. Gets the ball, stops, turns back, turns side, moves. Doesn't flow.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tamunotonye22(m): 4:06pm On May 31, 2017
Joebie:
its Ebeuhi vs Omeruo in RB.
Awaziem replaces Balogun to partner Ekong

Most likely Echiejile versus Youssef.



I don't advice this.I personally was in the nest of champions when omeruo played right back, he is no natural right back why not give the position to Ebuehi.looks like everyone is afraid of testing our dutch "brought-up".
I think he's added some flesh lately
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:08pm On May 31, 2017
hismail1:
@nff: List of invited players for 2019 AFCON qualifier against South Africa


Waooooh! Agu don make am. Ndidi should watch out. grin

Alhassan don make am through local league. grin

Onyekuru final made it. Now, no more yanger. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:09pm On May 31, 2017
I only said its Ebuehi versus Omeruo.
Who played right back against Senegal?
Where you there also?


Tamunotonye22:



I don't advice this.I personally was in the nest of champions when omeruo played right back, he is no natural right back why not give the position to Ebuehi.looks like everyone is afraid of testing our dutch "brought-up".
I think he's added some flesh lately
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:10pm On May 31, 2017
Icon4s:


Taaa na lie.

We know you wella hear.

Na true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:10pm On May 31, 2017
Joebie:
Crabby? I beg to differ "BIGLY".
What video clips are you judging from? the current U20 WC? Club performances?

Have seen a couple of his clips before and from the u20 clip you posted some days ago. No doubt he's talented but methinks he ain't smooth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:13pm On May 31, 2017
komekn:


One name that baffles me is Osimhen, he has not even been to camp and competed to justify inclusion.

He has played barely two games barely 10 minutes of football all season at a low level Wolfsburg that has just escaped relegation from the Bundesliga. He wasn't considered good enough for his team to start him or even play him over 45 minutes.

This can cause disaffection in the camp as thier is no justification beyond past glories. It has to be a level playing field. Even Isaac Success has better justification for selection than him.

There should be a clear an open modality for selection that is not the case here.

GBAM!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:16pm On May 31, 2017
Joebie:
I only said its Ebuehi versus Omeruo.
Who played right back against Senegal?
Where you there also?


This Ebuehi guy I just personally want him to succeed as a player in our team. I felt bad that on his debut a goal was scored through him. I pray he succeeds.

The good thing with what is happening is that we are getting lots of options for various positions in the team. It would give depth and room for tactical manoeuvres. Now is the time for Rohr to write his name in gold in the annals of Nigerian football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:20pm On May 31, 2017
Tamunotonye22:



I don't advice this.I personally was in the nest of champions when omeruo played right back, he is no natural right back why not give the position to Ebuehi.looks like everyone is afraid of testing our dutch "brought-up".
I think he's added some flesh lately
I panic for him, yet I desire his success. He's not as skinny as he was during the camping session for the Senegal invite. He needs to get rugged. African football no be burger.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tamunotonye22(m): 4:27pm On May 31, 2017
Mujtahida:

I understand your position but life is all about chance and opportunity. From reading you on this forum I know you have your doubts about Osimhen. Let the young man get his chance and then you can more properly gauge things.

Yesterday the hype was Onyekuru, Odey, Olatubosun, Alhassan etc. Shey dem don go camp and two have fallen by the side? That's how it is.

When he's tested then we shall KNOW. For now all we have is just information, speculations and opinions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 4:34pm On May 31, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
I hope Muazam making the team keeps the noise down about there not being talent in the NPFL.
Big congratulations to Sikiru and Odey their time shall come.
They need to work harder.

Yes they are talents. But maybe their quality is not upto the level required.

I hope they come back stronger

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:37pm On May 31, 2017
Rohr past the test with fewer options. When we get to the World Cup proper we will start taking about him writing his name in gold.
Mujtahida:

This Ebuehi guy I just personally want him to succeed as a player in our team. I felt bad that on his debut a goal was scored through him. I pray he succeeds.

The good thing with what is happening is that we are getting lot of options for various positions in the team. It would give depth and room for tactical manoeuvres. Now is the time for Rohr to write his name in gold in the annals of Nigerian football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:46pm On May 31, 2017
We see Muazam as a Manu Garba boy, together with the likes of Success, Ihenacho etc.
If not for his injury he would have been Europe long. Then you won't be talking about the NPFL. Give credits to who it is really due.
I'm still yet to see an outfield home based player that can prove he is deserving... Is Odey not on his way back to MFM? But Osimhen is still very much around. Rohr has ran the rule over both of them. The verdict is out.

BascoVanVeli:
I hope Muazam making the team keeps the noise down about there not being talent in the NPFL.
Big congratulations to Sikiru and Odey their time shall come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:48pm On May 31, 2017
EmmGee:

They need to work harder.

Yes they are talents. But maybe their quality is not upto the level required.

I hope they come back stronger

There are many talents but it is difficult to know who is national team quality because of the quality of the league and the way things are run in the league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:53pm On May 31, 2017
So Victor Moses is injured. He needs surgery on his toe and has been playing with injections. That is why he was omitted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:53pm On May 31, 2017
To make Liverpool first team no be beans oh. I'm sure Klopp has seen him more closely than yourself. How old is he again?
Mujtahida:

Have seen a couple of his clips before and from the u20 clip you posted some days ago. No doubt he's talented but methinks he ain't smooth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:58pm On May 31, 2017
True. Read it in SuperSport earlier. He and Etebo are definitely starters on a good day who else?

tbaba1234:
So Victor Moses is injured. He needs surgery on his toe and has been playing with injections. That is why he was omitted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 5:00pm On May 31, 2017
Joebie:
Iwobi was groomed in England. Okay you are making a generalization. But the players in question are England-groomed Nigerians. We can focus on them. Does Lookman and Ejaria lack technical ability?


Again ,Iwobi started playing football in Nigeria. He was greatly influenced by our style. Ejaria is over hyped,he dribbles in circles without a clear vision....Kelechi Nwakali is way ahead of him. Most English players are technically deficient. I haven't seen Lookman play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:00pm On May 31, 2017
kennysville:
Wow. I am so impressed with the maroof dude. Can also be utilized as a holding midfielder

Maroof actually started his career at Zamalek in the midfield. He only started playing left back recently.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:03pm On May 31, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Again ,Iwobi started playing football in Nigeria. He was greatly influenced by our style. Ejaria is over hyped,he dribbles in circles without a clear vision....Kelechi Nwakali is way ahead of him. Most English players are technically deficient. I haven't seen Lookman play.

Gascoigne, Mcmanaman, Rooney, Gerrard, Lamar, Beckham.. Are these guys technically deficient?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:03pm On May 31, 2017
Joebie:
Rohr past the test with fewer options. When we get to the World Cup proper we will start taking about him writing his name in gold.
When I said now I meant the entire duration of his tenure as our coach. Not the immediate now. He's proved himself capable but sterner test should come both for him and the team. Cameroun on my mind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 5:04pm On May 31, 2017
hismail1:
@nff: List of invited players for 2019 AFCON qualifier against South Africa
No Victor Moses
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:05pm On May 31, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Again ,Iwobi started playing football in Nigeria. He was greatly influenced by our style. Ejaria is over hyped,he dribbles in circles without a clear vision....Kelechi Nwakali is way ahead of him. Most English players are technically deficient. I haven't seen Lookman play.
That's just my point about Ejaria as per the circles. But he's good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Famocious(m): 5:05pm On May 31, 2017
tbaba1234:
So Victor Moses is injured. He needs surgery on his toe and has been playing with injections. That is why he was omitted.

This is bit reasonable unlike the 'honeymoon' theory..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:07pm On May 31, 2017
"Technical. A technical player is a master of the techniques of the game (passing, trapping, shooting, dribbling, tackling the ball.) He has excellent touch, precise control, a fast work-rate of touches on the ball, and uses all sorts of body surfaces or edges."

Source: top contributor on quora.

Are you saying England kills this aspect in a player?

MODIFIED
Also how would you rate current SE midfielders going by the above definition?



OMANBALA1:


Again ,Iwobi started playing football in Nigeria. He was greatly influenced by our style. Ejaria is over hyped,he dribbles in circles without a clear vision....Kelechi Nwakali is way ahead of him. Most English players are technically deficient. I haven't seen Lookman play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by adrainuche(m): 5:10pm On May 31, 2017
OMANBALA1:


I have given my observations and takes its left for the coach to decide who to play. If I was the coach I would not start Awaziem in a high profile qualifier like against Cameroon just yet.

I understand but umeruo at CB is always a suspect, ever since the world cup i dont get it ... I would prefer awaziem tho ... Remember against zambia he was fumbling ...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:10pm On May 31, 2017
Good point. Let's hope we don't underestimate them sha.


O pari

Icon4s:


Recall Guinea stopped us from 2011 and this same SA and Congo PR(Brazaville) stopped us from 2015.

We need to be at our best against SA in Uyo. Remember also that head to head rule counts. We don't just need a win but a resounding win.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:11pm On May 31, 2017
I understand. You threw me off when you said "now is the time". Beating Cameroon wouldn't be a new thing to us. Rohr writing his name in gold will involve more.

Mujtahida:

When I said now I meant the entire duration of his tenure as our coach. Not the immediate now. He's proved himself capable but sterner test should come both for him and the team. Cameroun on my mind.

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