Guys. Please I need your advice on WES. MY WES has been completed and sent to Nigeria since April 28. I used the standard delivery method. Is is supposed to be sent to my house address as filled in my WES profile ? Or am I supposed to go for it at maybe NIPOST? Anybody here with similar experience?

vcole:
So many things wrong with this response in my opinion. The spouse can and i advise should transfer the funds to his wife who is the PA. He ony needs to write a letter of explanation that he did so to assist in meeting the funds requirement for their family size. To further support this,
he can opt to include his work history and reference letter under the employment section of his own form during eAPR just to show that he earns an income however this is not compulsory. The PA should submit her 6 months' bank account statement and any evidence the cooperative can provide to show how long the funds she invested with them were held for and so on. The spouse does not need to provide any evidence from the cooperative.
The PA should use her international passport as it is and should not use any 'new name' or fill any other name anywhere else as there is no evidence of such a name on any of her documents. A marriage certificate suffices to show prooof of relationship to her spouse.

Thank you Vcole, you guys are too much....i sit down here with popcorn for my hand o....

vcole:
So many things wrong with this response in my opinion. The spouse can and i advise should transfer the funds to his wife who is the PA. He ony needs to write a letter of explanation that he did so to assist in meeting the funds requirement for their family size. To further support this,
he can opt to include his work history and reference letter under the employment section of his own form during eAPR just to show that he earns an income however this is not compulsory. The PA should submit her 6 months' bank account statement and any evidence the cooperative can provide to show how long the funds she invested with them were held for and so on. The spouse does not need to provide any evidence from the cooperative.
The PA should use her international passport as it is and should not use any 'new name' or fill any other name anywhere else as there is no evidence of such a name on any of her documents. A marriage certificate suffices to show prooof of relationship to her spouse.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my opinion and yours is also okay. The primary applicant which is the wife is saying - look we have the money but some is coming from my husband and he liquidated his Cooperative investment, this is a letter to prove he actually had a cooperative investment.

She is also saying - I have a cooperative investment and I have liquidated it, please see evidence from my Cooperative society. Review my statement of account and the date of inflow and narration on the statement, it will confirm that the inflow is actually from the cooperative investment.

Why I want the spouse, who is the OP requiring explanation, to submit his own statement is because if he credits his wife account with the huge inflow and just explain with letter of explanation. The VO might raise eyebrow and ask why is the husband crediting the wife's account and where did he get the money from - these are possible questions. The aim of the application is to clearly satisfy the VO objectively that even if she/he takes the applicant application to a superior officer that same decision can be reached.

Letter of explanation is not a end to a means and is subjective. The VO does not need to rely on it to reach a decision. Your documents should satisfy such requirements. Rather why can't the LOE state I got this large sum from my Cooperative investment. Attached is the Cooperative certificate. My husband also have a fixed deposit for 6 months, attached the fixed deposit certificate or TBills certificate - simply or my husband also liquidated his Cooperative investment, see the certificate and his statement of account. The money is there. The VO reviewing these documents can trace where the monies are coming from.

C'mon two large sum credit entry in a statement of account and close to date of submission. That's enough room for someone to want to know more about the source.

What you are also saying is that someone's spouse can go borrow money, credit his partner with the amount and submit reference letter to say - hey guys it came from my salary. If VOs are that dumb - great idea for people struggling with POF

Hi everyone. @post ITA thread, anyone can create a thread. You simply moderate it and hope that people contribute meaningfully. As regards the entire eAPR process post ITA, i find it funny that anyone who has bothered to read this thread and bothered to click on dupyshoo's posts or on mine would mention that they have no post ITA info. Major problem is that we do not like to read, we want easy fixes, quick answers, etc etc etc. It amazes me that an individual who intends to make a move as serious as relocating to another country and intends to utilize funds for this process cannot read every single info available on the said process. Anyway like they say "we are all different.......personal circumstances may not allow mr x or mrs y read....yadi yadi ya"
If we all on this thread take time to drop our posts when we hit a snag and find a solution and so on, there would be loads of info. Canadavisaforum has a lotta info mostly because its populated with Asians who freely and liberally share their experiences.
Bottom line, read, learn, share.
Asking questions repeatedly over issues that have already died and been buried is quite annoying. This thread is currently over 490 pages and yet my fellow naija bro or sis will still ask "how can i register for ielts......what is the wes timeline.....i have 2 degrees, which should i evaluate......etc etc etc" Simple questions that you can ask google and it will answer you. Wes and Iqas sef have provided explanations as regards the different statuses on your evaluation, IRCC has clearly explained what degree to evaluate. CRS tool, simple q&a gives your score estimate.......like really, why can't a prospective applicant just read. Okay, okay if all this fails, what happened to using the search bar

Anyway, i don rant finish. Congrats to the latest ITA recipients. Kindly do your best to submit as soon as you can. Remember its summer and applications generally are processed for longer.
@dupyshoo, how market? @onlineise @esosa4real @40manlappy and all those that are habakkuk-ing, una wan use laugh tear my belle!!!!

Post AOR question -

Please what's GCMS note and does one have to request for it post AOR?

I've researched this enquiry but couldn't find any useful information.

Many thanks!

Ehrnie:
Post AOR question -

Please what's GCMS note and does one have to request for it post AOR?

I've researched this enquiry but couldn't find any useful information.

Many thanks!

GCMS note is like a workflow sheet on your application. It shows the level of activity/work and stages your application has gotten to.

Yes you can request for it. Especially if you are not comfortable with the timeline of event

It is your insistence on the spouse's account being submitted as pof that is the issue here.
The guideline to any PR application is what IRCC has clearly specified in their section under mandatory documentation. It is clearly written that the proof of funds should bear the name of the principal applicant. IRCC does not and has not stated on any official correspondence that the POF should bear the name of the spouse.
Personal experiences from applicants all over the world have led to individual interpretations of this rule based on their individual experiences with the VO who manages their individual cases. I use the word individual so many times in the above sentence because every application is individualized. The guideline is the IRCC recommendation. Based on this, if a PR applicant intends to follow the rules, said applicant should POF that bears his/her name. In this case a joint account bears the applicant's name and complies with the rules. A spouse's account does not bear the applicant's name and according to the IRCC rules does not comply. That VOs choose to accept a spouse's account based on their discretion does not make it the guideline.

A spouse can at any time he or she desires willingly give funds to his or her partner. It makes sense to any VO that a gainfully employed spouse or one with a source of income for instance from a business can provide funds in bulk sums to his/her partner for whatever reason he/she so desires. Whatever investment said spouse chooses to engage himself in is actually irrelevant to the VO in this case seeing as the spouse is a dependent on this application. The funds invested in a cooperative did not fall from the sky, it came from somewhere. A letter of explanation more than suffices because it EXPLAINS why the funds were transferred, when they were, where they were sourced from and can include evidence of the transfer instruction as well as evidence of gainful employment or business.

Boss13:


There is absolutely nothing wrong with my opinion and yours is also okay. The primary applicant which is the wife is saying - look we have the money but some is coming from my husband and he liquidated his Cooperative investment, this is a letter to prove he actually had a cooperative investment.

She is also saying - I have a cooperative investment and I have liquidated it, please see evidence from my Cooperative society. Review my statement of account and the date of inflow and narration on the statement, it will confirm that the inflow is actually from the cooperative investment.

Why I want the spouse, who is the OP requiring explanation, to submit his own statement is because if he credits his wife account with the huge inflow and just explain with letter of explanation. The VO might raise eyebrow and ask why is the husband crediting the wife's account and where did he get the money from - these are possible questions. The aim of the application is to clearly satisfy the VO objectively that even if she/he takes the applicant application to a superior officer that same decision can be reached.

Letter of explanation is not a end to a means and is subjective. The VO does not need to rely on it to reach a decision. Your documents should satisfy such requirements. Rather why can't the LOE state I got this large sum from my Cooperative investment. Attached is the Cooperative certificate. My husband also have a fixed deposit for 6 months, attached the fixed deposit certificate or TBills certificate - simply or my husband also liquidated his Cooperative investment, see the certificate and his statement of account. The money is there. The VO reviewing these documents can trace where the monies are coming from.

C'mon two large sum credit entry in a statement of account and close to date of submission. That's enough room for someone to want to know more about the source.

What you are also saying is that someone's spouse can go borrow money, credit his partner with the amount and submit reference letter to say - hey guys it came from my salary. If VOs are that dumb - great idea for people struggling with POF

I came on here to say Congratulations to everyone who got an ITA today.

Boss13:


GCMS note is like a workflow sheet on your application. It shows the level of activity/work and stages your application has gotten to.

Yes you can request for it. Especially if you are not comfortable with the timeline of event

Thanks for your prompt response. Please can you explain the process of requesting for it? Is this something I have to do via my CIC account?

Many thanks and apologies for the long questions.

Or seen with the horse's eyes, lols

Chordata:


Thank you! Case closed guys. No more argument about RSA funds ooo; you have heard from the horse's mouth.

Congrats to d ITA recipients. I can imagine how happy u guyz are at d moment. I wish u all goodluck. I envy you, hope and pray to get mine soon. Also happy for myself at d moment sha cos WES finally gave me a soft copy of my evaluation report after much pressure, a task I started in January. Info. is key. I applied to WES before discovering dis thread and spent alot on transcripts and d rest to evaluate 3 different certificates instead of doing only d masters. It's all good, I'm kinda through with them, expecting d hard copy.

These guyz talking about customs/immigration officers asking for settlement fund proof at d point of entry are scaring me. U mean I should still have about 6M in my account(due to family size) after paying for flights and d rest just because I need to convince these guyz? Someone should please confirm d chance/probability(in percentage) of being ask dis question at d point of entry biko.

@ottawaboi this your question has brought out the big guns. You are lucky, make sure you read everything and put it to good use.

bigbroda:


These guyz talking about customs/immigration officers asking for settlement fund proof at d point of entry are scaring me. U mean I should still have about 6M in my account(due to family size) after paying for flights and d rest just because I need to convince these guyz? Someone should please confirm d chance/probability(in percentage) of being ask dis question at d point of entry biko.

Guys abeg what is the panic all about, asking for how money you have when you get to their border whether by road or air is nothing new it is standard practice world over.l have watched some series of their border activities program just have some good and reasonable amount of money on you to prove you can sustain yourself if alone or with your family and declare totally what you have on you no matter the amount so as not to cause delay because no be only you waka come.

What's with the panic? Having the funds whether it is been asked for or not is for your own good especially been that you have a family. It is best you relocate with sufficient funds to prevent panic in case you don't get a job as soon as you land. This explains why some people settlement story is different from some other people. All the best.

bigbroda:


These guyz talking about customs/immigration officers asking for settlement fund proof at d point of entry are scaring me. U mean I should still have about 6M in my account(due to family size) after paying for flights and d rest just because I need to convince these guyz? Someone should please confirm d chance/probability(in percentage) of being ask dis question at d point of entry biko.

glonyx:
Guys. Please I need your advice on WES. MY WES has been completed and sent to Nigeria since April 28. I used the standard delivery method. Is is supposed to be sent to my house address as filled in my WES profile ? Or am I supposed to go for it at maybe NIPOST? Anybody here with similar experience?

Had similar situation you might never get the WES assessment, the good news is the express entry is an online application .

use the pdf copy the online pdf copy on your wes profile..It works and its 100 percent the same as the physical copy

vcole:
It is your insistence on the spouse's account being submitted as pof that is the issue here.
The guideline to any PR application is what IRCC has clearly specified in their section under mandatory documentation. It is clearly written that the proof of funds should bear the name of the principal applicant. IRCC does not and has not stated on any official correspondence that the POF should bear the name of the spouse.
Personal experiences from applicants all over the world have led to individual interpretations of this rule based on their individual experiences with the VO who manages their individual cases. I use the word individual so many times in the above sentence because every application is individualized. The guideline is the IRCC recommendation. Based on this, if a PR applicant intends to follow the rules, said applicant should POF that bears his/her name. In this case a joint account bears the applicant's name and complies with the rules. A spouse's account does not bear the applicant's name and according to the IRCC rules does not comply. That VOs choose to accept a spouse's account based on their discretion does not make it the guideline.

A spouse can at any time he or she desires willingly give funds to his or her partner. It makes sense to any VO that a gainfully employed spouse or one with a source of income for instance from a business can provide funds in bulk sums to his/her partner for whatever reason he/she so desires. Whatever investment said spouse chooses to engage himself in is actually irrelevant to the VO in this case seeing as the spouse is a dependent on this application. The funds invested in a cooperative did not fall from the sky, it came from somewhere. A letter of explanation more than suffices because it EXPLAINS why the funds were transferred, when they were, where they were sourced from and can include evidence of the transfer instruction as well as evidence of gainful employment or business.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-acceptable-proof-of-funds-in-Canadian-Express-Entry

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

No need to get involve with this argument. Yes POF must be in the applicants name. Same as other documents the primary applicant is submitting.

However acceptable POF is not limited to be in the applicants name alone.

But who must submit this document, POF - The primary applicant. Accompanying spouse do not have any document checklist to submit POF. It is where POF is not in the primary applicants name or the account is a joint account, you can then use LOE to explain. The ties are there - your spouse is an accompanying spouse, there is a marriage certificate to show marriage, there is affidavit for name change, the bank statement is showing the last name/surname of the partners, same as international passport.

I can bet your $1,000 US dollars and I can reliably confirm this statement and people who have done likewise who are living in Canada as PR.

Are you up to the challenge. Let me send my account details

Okay. E don reach betting level now. Lol

I will just keep watching/reading in 3D and sip my Iced Cappuccino here.

Boss13:



https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-acceptable-proof-of-funds-in-Canadian-Express-Entry

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

No need to get involve with this argument. Yes POF must be in the applicants name. Same as other documents the primary applicant is submitting.

However acceptable POF is not limited to be in the applicants name alone.

But who must submit this document, POF - The primary applicant. Accompanying spouse do not have any document checklist to submit POF. It is where POF is not in the primary applicants name or the account is a joint account, you can then use LOE to explain. The ties are there - your spouse is an accompanying spouse, there is a marriage certificate to show marriage, there is affidavit for name change, the bank statement is showing the last name/surname of the partners, same as international passport.

I can bet your $1,000 US dollars and I can reliably confirm this statement and people who have done likewise who are living in Canada as PR.

Are you up to the challenge. Let me send my account details

Gymme:
Okay. E don reach betting level now. Lol

I will just keep watching/reading in 3D and sip my Iced Cappuccino here.

Boss13:


Spouse of the primary applicant do not submit POF. The POF section in the document checklist will only be indicated for the Primary applicant. However, the statement of account that the primary applicant would submit can either have his/her name; the name of his/her spouse or a joint account in their names.

The POF should not be a joint account of the primary applicant with a 3rd party like for instance a sibling or a joint account of the spouse and a 3rd party maybe his/her father.

So if all the funds is in the spouse account. The primary applicant can just submit the bank statement of his/her spouse as POF. Rather than receiving a large sum of money and using gift deed. Marriage certificate is documentary evidence that you and your spouse are married. Affidavit for change of name indicates especially for women that you once bear a different name, when you were single, but now have another name.

Further questions won't be asked. So I was surprised when I read comments where husband's were transferring money to their wives, who is the primary applicant, and using a gift deed.

A spouse submitting evidence of marriage and my statement of account does not mean I consent to him or her traveling. I guess that's y all monies should be in PA account to avoid further probing and stories that touch

Fusion23:

Had similar situation you might never get the WES assessment, the good news is the express entry is an online application .

use the pdf copy the online pdf copy on your wes profile..It works and its 100 percent the same as the physical copy

I found this reply funny Nipost don carry the document go another man house. Abeg use ur soft copy as fusion has adviced.

40manlappy:
Congrats to all those that will get ITA today. I am especially happy for you @ajiifixing

Thanks my brother.
You have been of immense help.

MummyJaygirls:


A spouse submitting evidence of marriage and my statement of account does not mean I consent to him or her traveling. I guess that's y all monies should be in PA account to avoid further probing and stories that touch

Madam please - I'm tired. Accompanying spouse. If you don't want the spouse to go along with to Canada. What is the person's details doing on your EE profile. Why did you select that the spouse is accompanying you to Canada. Why are you filling the person's details on your application and please, please, please - it is the primary applicant that submits POF - you will see it there on the document checklist. Your accompanying spouse CANNOT submit POF, it is not indicated in the document checklist.

You are only submitting statement of account with bank confirmation, if you want, of your spouse. The statement has his/her name. For the love of God, couples can save money in one account - that is why there is room for joint account or even spouse account. So if it's a joint account, should the primary applicant erase the spouse name just because he/she is the primary applicant.

That is why I called for a separate thread on Post ITA to brainstorm these issues and support them with documentary evidence and/or personal experience. Also, there have been concerns with Accra VOs on the misuse of gift deeds. Later we complain that Accra office is too slow with Nigerian applications

Why should an accompanying spouse transfer money and then use gift deed - that's not logical. The reason they don't ask is because the spouse is an accompanying spouse and because of the gift deed which is a legal document. But they begin to scrunitize and waste time reviewing your documents just to find errors.

This method is still the same thing as borrowing money from family or friends and claim it's a gift using gift deed.

I ve always wondered if VOs could frown upon a spouse transferring funds to the PA, since he wouldn't submit his account statement to show that the funds stayed in his account for over 6 months.

Isn't it possible that VO would think that borrowed funds went to spouse account which he subsequently transferred to his wife?

vcole:
So many things wrong with this response in my opinion. The spouse can and i advise should transfer the funds to his wife who is the PA. He ony needs to write a letter of explanation that he did so to assist in meeting the funds requirement for their family size. To further support this,
he can opt to include his work history and reference letter under the employment section of his own form during eAPR just to show that he earns an income however this is not compulsory. The PA should submit her 6 months' bank account statement and any evidence the cooperative can provide to show how long the funds she invested with them were held for and so on. The spouse does not need to provide any evidence from the cooperative.
The PA should use her international passport as it is and should not use any 'new name' or fill any other name anywhere else as there is no evidence of such a name on any of her documents. A marriage certificate suffices to show prooof of relationship to her spouse.

What if the couple divorce before the application is processed? I have seen situations like that. So what is your take on it? Will the PA still have access to the fund? I bet the PA will be told to submit a new POF.

Since you have accepted that according to IRCC website, POF should be in the PA's name, why do you question people's advice with regard to spouse transferring the POF to the PA's account? What's with the issue of concealment? Even if you have the fund in your account for 6 months, is that enough proof that the fund is yours?

My hubby transferred over 70% of the total POF to my account without including his bank statement and my application was approved. I did not even provide my bank statements for over 6 months. I just got a letter from my bank that met IRCC requirements. So, I am sure it works.

Boss13:



https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-acceptable-proof-of-funds-in-Canadian-Express-Entry

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

No need to get involve with this argument. Yes POF must be in the applicants name. Same as other documents the primary applicant is submitting.

However acceptable POF is not limited to be in the applicants name alone.

But who must submit this document, POF - The primary applicant. Accompanying spouse do not have any document checklist to submit POF. It is where POF is not in the primary applicants name or the account is a joint account, you can then use LOE to explain. The ties are there - your spouse is an accompanying spouse, there is a marriage certificate to show marriage, there is affidavit for name change, the bank statement is showing the last name/surname of the partners, same as international passport.

I can bet your $1,000 US dollars and I can reliably confirm this statement and people who have done likewise who are living in Canada as PR.

Are you up to the challenge. Let me send my account details

congrats to all ITA recepients in da house.
oya unto next levels.
pls come ask all your post ITA questions so that people can see that post ITA issues are discussed here.

cheers everyone.
@ dupyshoo @ vcole....una welcome....

Boss13:



https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-acceptable-proof-of-funds-in-Canadian-Express-Entry

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

No need to get involve with this argument. Yes POF must be in the applicants name. Same as other documents the primary applicant is submitting.

However acceptable POF is not limited to be in the applicants name alone.

But who must submit this document, POF - The primary applicant. Accompanying spouse do not have any document checklist to submit POF. It is where POF is not in the primary applicants name or the account is a joint account, you can then use LOE to explain. The ties are there - your spouse is an accompanying spouse, there is a marriage certificate to show marriage, there is affidavit for name change, the bank statement is showing the last name/surname of the partners, same as international passport.

I can bet your $1,000 US dollars and I can reliably confirm this statement and people who have done likewise who are living in Canada as PR.

Are you up to the challenge. Let me send my account details

Boss what happens if they divorce while awaiting PR
This can happen. This can be a reason why POF shlould be in the PA's name .....
to avoid stories that touch.

glonyx:
Guys. Please I need your advice on WES. MY WES has been completed and sent to Nigeria since April 28. I used the standard delivery method. Is is supposed to be sent to my house address as filled in my WES profile ? Or am I supposed to go for it at maybe NIPOST? Anybody here with similar experience?

It's most likely lost in transit. Naija Nipost for u.
I am not sure if d soft copy is acceptable. let gurus answer.

I advise anyone planning to use standard/regular mail to use a p.o box address in a city location for easy delivery within naija...thats what i did and got my report in 2weeks from dispatch.

I stroll go out come back and market done full. O Bob!!!!!!!!!! All of una welcome @gymee what manner of shakara drinking one name of drink that I cannot spell. @40manlappy I see you too

People don set fear to ask questions

[Qquote author=Ehrnie post=57067867]

Thanks for your prompt response. Please can you explain the process of requesting for it? Is this something I have to do via my CIC account?

Many thanks and apologies for the long questions. [/quote]

Jumdah20:
I ve always wondered if VOs could frown upon a spouse transferring funds to the PA, since he wouldn't submit his account statement to show that the funds stayed in his account for over 6 months.

Isn't it possible that VO would think that borrowed funds went to spouse account which he subsequently transferred to his wife?

Exactly my point

Hello dear, I dey o. Still in the UK. Mission 50% achieved so should be ready to move soon by God's grace. We need to catch up o. How are you dong too?

vcole:

@dupyshoo, how market?