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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:25pm On Jun 01, 2017
Just30:
it's the silliest comment I've seen from you all day
Ghana has contributed to every single conflict in West, central and East Africa
loooolll now this is d biggest rubbish iv seen in a sentence loooll very soon dey will say Ghana has achieved a lot for Africa grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:25pm On Jun 01, 2017
popizaino:
keep lying to those who have not been to ghana before.by the way is segbe,Aflao,sogagokpe not part of ghana again because at the custom check point just before the bridge at sogagokpe i still bought fried yam with naira there .
grin grin grin grin
This one just became a lier on the forum in order to push a notion that cannot be pushed.

Wow
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:26pm On Jun 01, 2017
mtis:

I thought they meant this Giant grin grin

grin grin
Has the sleeping giant finally woken up? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:26pm On Jun 01, 2017
forgiveness:


We saw World War two and we know Russia was the major actor and not even America.

So, it is convenient to say, since Russia rescued europe, they are Gaint of Europe.

In Asia China and India are Gaint. Japan is still under America. grin


In Sub Sahara Africa, Nigeria has contributed to every conflicts in Sub Sahara Africa.

Military strength, manpower, money etc I don't think any SubSaharan Africa country can withstand Nigeria except Ethiopia and South Africa. grin

If conflict arose within Africa on a large scale, Nigeria would be among the first to collapse, from within grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:27pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
loooolll now this is d biggest rubbish iv seen in a sentence loooll
kid, go and look for your brains before you quote me

grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 2:30pm On Jun 01, 2017
Joonana:
We have our own issues .. the thing is that it is becoming rare to find an insightful Nigerian to have discussion​ with .. I find your arguments​ lacking in content
do you know the meaning of argument at all? if you do please kindly find the rightful person to quote and not me. I not hear to trade insult please. I know you lots.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:31pm On Jun 01, 2017
forgiveness:


Chai! Ghana self don dey form big boys. grin

It is good we have Ghana, IV, Senegal etc as neighbors. It defines how the western African countries are far more developed and advanced than the Eastern African countries. grin

To crown it up, Lagos is the regional headquarter of international organizations. grin More powerful than that of East Africa grin
as in , Lagos alone is more powerful than d whole of east Africa
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:32pm On Jun 01, 2017
Muafrika2:


grin grin
Has the sleeping giant finally woken up? grin

Same here, mtis did you wake the useless giant?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jun 01, 2017
Just30:
There's A University CALL University Of Ghana
You are the one guy who doesn't have a brain on this entire forum
So I don't expect you to read and understand because you don't have that thing that can process what you read
oh so becos I don't concur to all d nonsense u Kenyans and ghanains say that means I don't have brain . u must be high

lol mpsa is d grand Marshall of no brains platoon grin grin

I neva undstand that dudes yarns
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:36pm On Jun 01, 2017
vaxx:
forgiveness why? so you mean nigeria is giant becuse of millitary strenght?lol.


those who are the most victim of the war are not even european. they are jews who settle in europe. if any country should be given a medal of charity it will be USA AND BRITAIN. why do you think they are lot of jewish family in the usa today. Usa opens her border freely for victim of war. Britain provide inteligence support for the usa. Russia can not be neglected especially her role with the soviet unioun. But she will not get the charity medal.

what do you mean by japan is under usa. i dont get it. japan robotic technology is more advance than usa.hope you know it. japan is may achived success in the bulding of artificial inteligence computer before usa.


nigeria has play a brotherly role both financial and manpower likewise ghana. i may not be able to talk on kenya. ghana deploys trrops to mali ,abijan,gambia and liberia so what else again. financially ghana is richer than ethiopia. Militatry strenght give it to egypt not even nigeria. Egypt has face one of the most advance country in the world and she is standing.

let me tell you one thing. you may not accept it. ghana millitary are well trained and one of the best in africa. they may not possess amunitions like nigeria or spend like her .and this is becuse ghana is peaceful. No war to fight. Obasonjo and gowon are product of ghana millitary school.

a millitary majour told me about nigeria army in liberia, peacekeeping operation.he said nigeria millitary sent war ship to nigeria army to defend against the rebel who uses big matchet and canoe to attack. nigeria army was unable to operate their own war ship. This ship was handed over to a ghanain army to operate.
I know much more of the Liberian war because I was there

Every single soldiers that that in Monrovia during the early deployment were Ghanaians
Ghanaian soldiers were in charge of Nimba County where the most difficult fighting where happening
Ghanaian soldiers were in charge of the whole Monrovia from broadstreet to west point
From basal town to sinkor.
From West point to New Kru town

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:38pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Nigerian and Ghanaian accent are similar to me. Kenyans who watch west african movies think Ghanaian movies are Nigerian.
yeah, that's d kind of standard nollywood has set. that's y I always say Ghana has no movie industry , they are are intertwined into nollywood
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:38pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
oh so becos I don't concur to all d nonsense u Kenyans and ghanains say that means I don't have brain . u must be high

lol mpsa is d grand Marshall of no brains platoon grin grin

I neva undstand that dudes yarns
wow grin grin grin now you are looking for a competitor in the no brains competition?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:39pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Dude, ur accent is too conspicuous. Even Kansiime is better than your oga english
lol tell that to d millions of African imitating Nigerian accent . I swear Nigeria will soon recolonise Africa grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
yeah, that's d kind of standard nollywood has set. that's y I always say Ghana has no movie industry , they are are intertwined into nollywood

Nollywood has no standards.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:46pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:


The Tanzanian entertainment industry is not even comparable to kenya's. And its true, almost all Tanzanian music of good quality is produced either in kenya or S.A. And Nigerians as well produce a lot of their music in S.A grin due to their poor aesthetic appeal back home.
sorry to say this but u guys talk like idiots , y wud nigerians go to S.A to produce music. wen we have d best producers with world class equipments here in Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
lol tell that to d millions of African imitating Nigerian accent . I swear Nigeria will soon recolonise Africa grin grin
Don't be deceived, I have never used nigerian pidgin/ accent outside of this thread. It appears childish and immature
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
sorry to say this but u guys talk like idiots , y wud nigerians go to S.A to produce music. wen we have d best producers with world class equipments here in Nigeria

Music Videos !

Your artistes have to fly (or swim) south. No wonder you guys are so pained by S.A because they literally feed you. Its like you're nothing without them cheesy

WHY MANY NIGERIAN ARTISTES SHOOT THEIR MUSIC VIDEOS IN SOUTH-AFRICA.
South Africa is not just another African country; she is the most industrialized nation on the continent. South Africa’s industrialization did not start at the end of Apartheid; rather Apartheid was one of the numerous tools used to fuel that countries infrastructural growth. Cheap black labour was effectively utilized in the development of the rainbow nation. The white settlers of South Africa, in conjunction with their ancestral European nations did not relent in building relevant infrastructures inside their African settlement especially during Apartheid’s peak periods.

South Africa is better than Nigeria, not necessarily because she has white settlers and constant electricity (though she does) but because that country has a different spirit from Nigeria. South Africa like Nigeria has majority of her citizens (blacks) living in poverty and to top that, the rainbow nation has the highest crime rate and HIV rate in the world. But the South African ‘spirit’ has given her people the wisdom to propagate and promote only the good sides of their nation.

The South African government and her people never miss any opportunity to tell the world that their nation is the best place in the world, in spite of their numerous challenges. As for Nigeria; corrupt government politicians are the ones telling the world how good Nigeria is. While those in ‘opposition’ are always on hand to counter the government’s position and even add ‘jara’ to their interpretation of deplorable challenges in Nigeria just to buttress their point.

But this article is not about Nigeria’s woes or politics, IT’S ABOUT MUSIC, so let’s loosen up a bit.

I bet most fans and viewers of recent Nigerian music videos have noticed a seemingly multi-racial identity that several Nigerian music videos have now acquired. There seems to be a trend of our local artistes featuring multiracial casts or extras on their music videos, especially females.



Most of these music videos are shot in no other place than South Africa. It’s now common place to see a Nigerian music video set in exotic or rundown South African locations, the artiste cruising a right-hand drive car with white or mullato women cascading the scene here and there. Nigerian artistes like Faze, Naeto C and P-square pioneered this rush to shoot music videos in SA. Before long, the Mo’Hits crew followed suit and now the likes of Flavour, KCEE and Bracket are addicted to this concept. But can we really blame them? Of course not.

The truth, which I eventually discovered, is that it makes more economic sense to shoot a music video in SA. Yes, we have Nigerian music video directors like Clarence Peters, Patrick Ellis and Aje that are doing great things on Nigerian locations but they don’t come in cheap. I don’t know exactly how much top-rated Nigerian directors charge to do music videos but I heard it’s in the millions. So, again, why South Africa?

Okay, here’s a gist I got from some of my industry friends based in South Africa; you all know about GODFATHER production? Most times we see their credits on many South African made-Nigerian music videos. The owner of Godfather productions is a Nigerian married to a South African lady and word has it that he does not even know what a camera looks like, let alone handle it. And so, how does a Godfather production shoot Nigerian music videos?
South Africa is home to many world class film institutions that train movie makers and directors from all over the world, including Nigeria. Our very own Clarence A Peters also trained in one of such institutions.

This is how it goes; a Nigerian artiste...say FLAVOUR decides to shoot a music video in South Africa and informs Godfather productions. The folks at Godfather contact some final year students in one of those SA film institute’s, inviting them to come use the production of a certain Naija music video as their project. These students, eager to impress their institutions and come out with good grades rush to embark on such music videos. The people at Godfather’s production after selecting the ‘lucky student(s)’ now decide to pay them a stipend, most times less than $1,000 (N150k) and these SA film students become over-joyed because they are somewhat being paid for doing their homework .

When it’s production time, it gets even easier; shooting a music video in SA is as easy as getting a permit and heading to your location anywhere in the city. There are no area boys or ‘omo onile’s’ to settle before shooting your stuff, and for the sexy multi-racial female models? South African women are more liberal and fun loving, most of them love appearing on music videos just for fun. With the popularity Nigerian music now enjoys in South Africa, these ladies sometimes struggle to feature on popular Naija artistes’ music videos.

So, that pretty White or Mullato lady you see on some Nigerian music videos are just having a good time, at the end of shoot they are rewarded with a nice meal, lots of alcohol and taxi fare, full stop. This is in sharp contrast to engaging Nigerian video vixens, where the pretty ones demand higher fees and the ‘accidental’ mixed raced ones amongst them even make higher and ridiculous demands.

When next you are watching that Nigerian music video shot in South Africa, please just enjoy the music and don’t blame that Nigerian artiste for not shooting in Nigeria. It has nothing to do with status or not wanting a black Nigerian cast; it has everything to do with economics of scale.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 2:53pm On Jun 01, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 2:53pm On Jun 01, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jun 01, 2017
Just30:
kid, go and look for your brains before you quote me

grin grin grin
OK bro, call me wateva u want ,it doesn't make Ghana any relevant grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Same here, mtis did you wake the useless giant?
looooollll these guys don't want to let this giant thing go grin grin grin oya sorry we will give Kenya d title grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
looooollll these guys don't want to let this giant thing go grin grin grin oya sorry we will give Kenya d title grin grin

The title was given to us on merit by MPSA grin Not like you who gave it yourself with nothing to show for it. We have what it takes which is walking on our two feet as true giants. You were just overgrown babies

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:02pm On Jun 01, 2017
uzzyfire:
OK bro, call me wateva u want ,it doesn't make Ghana any relevant grin
tell that to a Caribbean and he will slap you
Tell that to a South Korean and he will have you a know on your head even though it is against their tradition.

If you say that to any West African , He will stair at you and wonder where you kept your box grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Nollywood has no standards.
looolll I guess been d 3rd largest movie industry in d world is not a standard grin mumu

don't worry it kenyawood or k24 that has a standard grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:10pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:

Don't be deceived, I have never used nigerian pidgin/ accent outside of this thread. It appears childish and immature
so why shud I base my theory on just one person that is u. so if u dont imitate Nigeria accent ,does that mean that nobody else does

billive me wen I tell u that there millions of people that imitate Nigerians grin grin just like d way a lot of people imitate Americans

I guess its becos we exported our culture through our music and movies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:16pm On Jun 01, 2017
TayserMahiri:

Don't be deceived, I have never used nigerian pidgin/ accent outside of this thread. It appears childish and immature
he doesnt get it...Nigeria thingy is used to make jokes...not me but most Kenyans feel that way grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:27pm On Jun 01, 2017
mtis:

he doesnt get it...Nigeria thingy is used to make jokes...not me but most Kenyans feel that way grin

It's only in Nigeria that pidgin is a language
Everywhere else, pidgin is a terminology grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:29pm On Jun 01, 2017
University of Ghana botanical garden.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jun 01, 2017
genieluv:



Oooh myyy! Nooo! shocked
~~I have once seen a report where a black foreigner claimed that the number n influence of Indians n whites in Nairobi,Kenya is too much for a typical black african country buh i never thot it was that much~~.

TayserMahiri, muafrika2, PissedYagami, MtuMsuper
Is this really true?
I'm sorry if i sound so much of a critic or racist, i am not against foreigners in any way. I love em smiley buh i don't like the idea of foreigners dominating or having so much influence in African cities. Nuuh i don't. Why should they?

Indians do have some business ventures. They are descendants of the Indian lower caste that were brought to work on the railway and afterwards, the colonial government allowed them to start small businesses which at the beginning were just simple Kiosks selling basic stuff.

The colonial government treated them as second class citizens (the Arabs were treated as the third class and the Africans as the fourth class, which referred to privilege like, Africans were not allowed in the city unless with a pass for a specific purpose) Indians had a designated residential area too, and most still remain there, hence the perception of dorminance in parklands estates by people like random number. They also had shops in Nairobi downtown (where Africans streets like river road were located), most of whose leases have ended and ownership shifted to mostly Kikuyu business men.

Europeans were given Karen. Karen land ownership is now mostly African. The biggest land owner there is the Catholic Church of Kenya.

That takes care of the two races.

Africans as previously stated were not allowed in the city. Those that had passes had "special", lower grade streets provided for them. They were also restricted to menial jobs. Africans got into the city after independence in 1963. By that time, the Indian investments (they actively participated in the struggle for independence and used their advantage to avail resources that were helpful in the fight.)

One of the first things the African government did when it came to power was to build houses in the city for Africans, especially government workers. So it built Buru Buru, Umoja, Jericho, Uhuru etc (mostly East lands Estates) That is why you'll find most Kenyan Africans in those areas.

With time, as Africans finally got into business and took over government, private estates and houses started coming up in all areas on Nairobi. Places like where Naijalander leaves are in East lands privately developed flats. There are many of those in East lands. The flats are owned by Africans. So Naijalander and random number were paying rent to a kenyan African and come here to say we are dominated by foreigners.

I'd say the richest group of people in Kenya are Kikuyus. They bought most of the land from white settlers at independence and used them to take loans and estsblished big businesses. They control the vegetable export, hospitality industry, the government etc.

Somalis are trying too. They are just as hardworking. Their family structures makes financial support for serious business ventures easily available. They will be found mostly in Eastleigh, where the British put them after they petitioned the colonial government to be graded as Indians. It's a mixed estate with other Kenyan Africans making the majority.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jun 01, 2017
An you all Nigerians who dont like oyibos..there is a easier way to torture them grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_duJQWLwpTw
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:37pm On Jun 01, 2017
mtis:
An you all Nigerians who dont like oyibos..there is a easier way to torture them grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_duJQWLwpTw
grin grin cheesy grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 3:42pm On Jun 01, 2017
What makes you think so .. what are your reasons ?
TayserMahiri:


Ghana's per capita is better, but any liberal minded person would consider kenya to be more developed than Ghana (and Nigeria).

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