bakynes:

Mr Man stop pouring spit all over this thread, I am not supporting Osinbajo but all these allegations is mere speculations. What do you know, you think you are brilliant enough? Why didn't you join them as an economic team member?

If true about the appointments, I think that's nepotism even though he appointed other Southerners asides Yoruba's but the ratio of Yoruba to other southerners is too much on the side of Yorubas. Northerners barely have anything to offer intellectually anyway, so I don't blame him for not appointing any Northerner. All they rely on is Federal character over competency.

ephi321:


See how you silently side stepped the question

You obviously voted for PMB and yet thoroughly flayed him just minutes ago. There is nothing wrong with standing by your decision. Let people know where you stand regardless of the consequences.

As for the North, karma keeps dealing with them. Despite the power they've had over the decades, they still have the least development.

LordAdam16:


They are not mere speculations. You can verify yourself and make your own writeup of the truth.

When Northerners do it with the SSS recruitment and other appointments, we cry foul, then when we do it, we remember they are intellectually-disadvantaged. That's not the way to run a country.

Chastise everyone even if the person is your brother, so that you have a precedence to chastise someone else and the person would listen to you. You can't give reasons for Osinbajo's nepotism and then when the North does it tomorrow, you'll say it's wrong. You've lost all credibility at that point.

This is one of the reasons why the country isn't progressing. No one wants to extend the olive leaf first. Everyone is just waiting their turn to do same and at the end of the day we are comfortable to gossip about it in the pubs and social gatherings.

What Osinbajo did is wrong. If Atiku and GEJ can appoint people not from their region, why can't Osinbajo? This is common sense. If you guys claim he is better than Buhari, why do the same things Buhari would do.

-Lord

Firgemachar:


Why are you being deliberately mischievous?

PMB made most of those appointments himself and assigned the appointees to Osinbajo!

ahn ahn!!

The VP didn’t stop there, of his 10 Principal Officers in his office, 9 are from his Yoruba ethnic group!

LordAdam16:


Deliberately mischievous? That's you fella.



So the president would assign principal officers to Osinbajo in the VP office?

Can you read what you type, or do you think we are kids here.

Don't insult anyone's sensitivity here. That's worse than using expletives.

-Lord

Firgemachar:


It will surprise you that I used to be an ardent GEJ fan.

But when it dawned on me that he was actually scheming to completely annihilate we Yorubas politically all the while, I changed. That was in 2016.

If GEJ had won a second term, Yorubas would have been politically doomed. We'd be lucky if we had the position of deputy speaker.

Firgemachar:


It will surprise you that I used to be an ardent GEJ fan.

But when it dawned on me that he was actually scheming to completely annihilate we Yorubas politically all the while, I changed. That was in 2016.

If GEJ had won a second term, Yorubas would have been politically doomed. We'd be lucky if we had the position of deputy speaker.

ephi321:


You were an "ardent GEJ fan" but you voted PMB and still flayed him minutes ago. Not nice.

First time I am hearing GEJ wanting to annihilate Yorubas. How? When? Where?

Firgemachar:


@bolded
That was what happened! PMB appointed Laolu Akande, Babafemi Ojudu and co and seconded them to Osinbajo.
Why is your memory so short

Firgemachar:


I didnt vote! I couldnt get my PVC!!

Yes, GEJ wanted to annihilate Yorubas politically. He gave us a prelude of what to expect in his first term when Yorubas were grossly marginalised on all fronts.

LordAdam16:


Uhm!

It was you guys that sold your right to Speaker of the House of Representatives for peanut.

And Tinubu under GEJ was more influential than he is today.

GEJ would have handed over to a NW/SW joint ticket. So your conspiracy theory of annihilating Yorubas politically is incorrect.

The only people he had with in Yoruba land were those in the Tinubu camp who were desirable partners in 2011, but shifted camp in 2015 because they felt Tinubu would get the VP slot.

Under GEJ, the only SE in the direct line of succession was Ekweremadu, they weren't screaming about annihilation.

Today, you guys only have Osinbajo. Saraki is representing the NC.

There is nothing you guys are gaining now, that you weren't gaining under GEJ, so re-evaluate your stand. SW roads, ports, airports were given consideration. The ACN, the foremost SW regional party was allowed to fester even into the President's region.

In 2019, if Buhari doesn't run, the next Northerner would choose someone from the SE preferably. PDP already has the same arrangement. Osinbajo can go form a new party with Tinubu like Buhari did with CPC to run for presidency, heaven knows he wouldn't win more than 50% of the vote in Yoruba land. In other regions, a fowl would get more votes than him.

What you guys have right now is a 4 year pyrrhic victory where your foremost political icon has been cut to size and where your most senior political official is nothing but a local champion. I hope the collection of nepotist VP appointments will be worth it in 2019.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


They are not mere speculations. You can verify yourself and make your own writeup of the truth.

When Northerners do it with the SSS recruitment and other appointments, we cry foul, then when we do it, we remember they are intellectually-disadvantaged. That's not the way to run a country.

Chastise everyone even if the person is your brother, so that you have a precedence to chastise someone else and the person would listen to you. You can't give reasons for Osinbajo's nepotism and then when the North does it tomorrow, you'll say it's wrong. You've lost all credibility at that point.

This is one of the reasons why the country isn't progressing. No one wants to extend the olive leaf first. Everyone is just waiting their turn to do same and at the end of the day we are comfortable to gossip about it in the pubs and social gatherings.

What Osinbajo did is wrong. If Atiku and GEJ can appoint people not from their region, why can't Osinbajo? This is common sense. If you guys claim he is better than Buhari, why do the same things Buhari would do.

-Lord

ephi321:


Cough. Now it's the PVC. hmm.

For your second point, there is no evidence to that, back up your claims, annihilate is a strong word.
I can't even compare appointments made during that period to the whole Northernocracy going on right now, so basically we've gone from frying fan into a blazing fire.

LordAdam16:


There is no time in this country and elsewhere, where the President decides who works with the VP. Even as docile as Sambo, GEJ did not do it.

Of course, it is a Presidential appointment, and the state house would issue the appointment letter after all the VP's office is under the State House, but it is the VP that chooses who he prefers to work with.

Buhari would not go pick a person Osinbajo barely knows and enforce it on Osinbajo. Even Ministers get to decide who works in agencies under their Ministry, not to talk of the VP deciding who works in his office. That is his kitchen cabinet for crying out loud. He'd want loyalists especially in a bi-polar party like APC with many rival sub-sections.

If that was not the case, how would VPs compensate their boys who worked for their election? This is Nigeria, stop sounding clever than half.

-Lord

Firgemachar:


I didnt vote! I couldnt get my PVC!!

Yes, GEJ wanted to annihilate Yorubas politically. He gave us a prelude of what to expect in his first term when Yorubas were grossly marginalised on all fronts.

Firgemachar:


@bolded
Are you doubting me?

Firgemachar:


Well, what something should be may not necessarily be what it is.

PMB appointed the Deputy SGF and others and succumbed them to Osinbajo. That is the fact!

LordAdam16:


The story of gross marginalization of Yorubas by GEJ is a fallacy.

The Agriculture Minister was a Yoruba man, who GEJ and NOI endorsed for the AfDB election.

What nonsense are you yapping about.

Is there a road he refused to fund in the SW. A rail project he refused to give accent to. Did he forego the SW ports for another regions port? Did he hound your political heavyweights?

GEJ chased after Ibori, his own kinsman and left Tinubu. Many in his own region have not forgiven him for that.

So what marginalization are you talking about?

You are free to support whoever you like, but never bring up absurdities.

Tinubu did not support GEJ in 2015 because he had an arrangement with Buhari to be the APC VP aspirant. He felt he had his region on lock-down, was already making in-roads into other regions, and felt he should take a shot at the Vice Presidency. It had nothing to do with marginalization. And you all waltzed over to the other side for that reason. Don't say nonsense about marginalization.

-Lord

Firgemachar:


There we go again!

Dont you ever get tired of these your useless conspiracy theories

Tinubu this, Tinubu that...Well, I understand, Tinubu booted GEJ out.

Let Osinbajo restore the economy to May 29, 2015 or anything near it economically, and let's see if he wont win in 2019.

Yoruba is Yoruba, whether SW or NC.

[s]Yorubas are in nos 1/2, 3, 6, Senate Chief Whip, House Leader.

We never had anything close in GEJ's era. [/s]

Also why did GEJ nominate a Yoruba lady rather than a Yoruba man to be speaker. What happened to learning from the Etteh example

A Yoruba man (Muraina Ajibola) would easily have emerged speaker. The northern caucus were okay with him.

LordAdam16:


The story of gross marginalization of Yorubas by GEJ is a fallacy.

The Agriculture Minister was a Yoruba man, who GEJ and NOI endorsed for the AfDB election.

What nonsense are you yapping about.

Is there a road he refused to fund in the SW. A rail project he refused to give accent to. Did he forego the SW ports for another regions port? Did he hound your political heavyweights?

GEJ chased after Ibori, his own kinsman and left Tinubu. Many in his own region have not forgiven him for that.

So what marginalization are you talking about?

You are free to support whoever you like, but never bring up absurdities.

Tinubu did not support GEJ in 2015 because he had an arrangement with Buhari to be the APC VP aspirant. He felt he had his region on lock-down, was already making in-roads into other regions, and felt he should take a shot at the Vice Presidency. It had nothing to do with marginalization. And you all waltzed over to the other side for that reason. Don't say nonsense about marginalization.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Tinubu was the reason GEJ didn't get more than 45% in the SW, compared to the 70% he got in 2015. So, I have to mention his name. And it was because he wanted to be VP aspirant. Greed instead of practicality.

It is all around the politico-sphere, so don't feign ignorance.

And for the lie you just brazenly told, which I rightly canceled, this is the response:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_National_Assembly

[s]Officers of the Senate

David Mark -- Senate President PDP -- Benue State
Ike Ekweremadu -- Deputy Senate President PDP -- Enugu State
Victor Ndoma Egba -- Majority Leader Senate PDP -- Cross River
Ahmed Abdul Ningi -- Deputy Majority Leader Senate PDP -- Bauchi State
George Akume -- Minority leader Senate APC -- Benue State
Ahmad Rufa'i Sani -- Deputy Minority Leader Senate APC -- Zamfara State
Ayoola Hosea Agboola -- Deputy Chief Whip Senate PDP -- Oyo State
Ganiyu Olarewaju Solomon -- Minority Whip Senate APC -- Lagos State
Bello Hayatu Gwarzo -- Chief Whip Senate PDP -- Kano

Officers of the house of representative

Rt. Hon. Aminu Waziri Tambuwal - Speaker House of Representatives
Rt. Hon. Emeka Ihedioha - Deputy Speaker House of Representatives
Hon. Mulikat Akande Adeola - House Leader
Hon. Ishaka Mohammed Bawa -Majority Whip
Hon. Leonard Okuweh Ogor -Deputy House Leader
Hon. Ahmed Mukhtar Mohammed - Deputy Chief Whip
Hon. Femi Gbajabiamila - Minority Leader
Hon. Samson Raphael Osagie - Minority Whip
Hon. Kawu Sumaila - Deputy Minority Leader
Hon. Garba Datti Muhammad - Deputy Minority Whip[/s]


Compare what the SW got to what other regions in the South got in each legislative house?

So, when I say Yoruba's position in 2015 was about Tinubu's VP aspiration, I know what I am saying.

A Yoruba person is a Yoruba person. Whether man or woman. If GEJ nominated a Yoruba person, then what is the basis for your call of marginalization?

-Lord

schoolboij:

I see you running amok on this thread .

first, there nobody by that name in the OP .it's just an ipob/PDP conspiracy.

secondly, the man at the center of this conspiracy is an Igbo man and he's very qualified.

third , there is no evidence that osinbajo ordered sanusis probe to be dropped. it's just an imagination of the writer. you all beli osinbajo is a powerless commissioner, how did he have the power to stop a northern state to drop a probe? are you not shooting yourself in the foot?

we all know this is just a starter to the propaganda ahead of 2019 so sheat your sword we all know the drill. and for your info, your atiku can never defeat osinbajo in 2019.

cc tonyebarcanista.

LordAdam16:


Sheath my sword.

It has already begun fella.

Osinbajo was one of the people who convinced the KSG to drop the probe. Others were Dangote and Dantata and some Northern Elite. The curious thing is why did Osinbajo join the foray? He exposed himself.

We all know Osinbajo cannot get more than 50% in the SW. He wouldn't even become the flag-bearer in APC as we know it in 2019.

Moreover, Buhari is recuperating in London and is set to return this month, so no road for Osinbajo, okay.

All of this is mainly to pocket whatever influence he thinks he is garnering by putting a kibosh on the Yoruba media that has been on full drive. If Tinubu can be cut to size, it is now Osinbajo with all his antecedents in the Lagos government.

Guy, don't try to be funny.

-Lord

Firgemachar:


How dare you compare nos 1/2, 3, 6, House Leader and Chief Whip to the rubbish list you have up there

Are you okay

Who are you to decide what is okay by Yorubas

No tribe, not even the Hausa/Fulani, have ever had it this good!

Northerners will never have a woman rule over them in the HoR!!

schoolboij:

I see you running amok on this thread .

first, there nobody by that name in the OP .it's just an ipob/PDP conspiracy.

secondly, the man at the center of this conspiracy is an Igbo man and he's very qualified.

third , there is no evidence that osinbajo ordered sanusis probe to be dropped. it's just an imagination of the writer. you all beli osinbajo is a powerless commissioner, how did he have the power to stop a northern state to drop a probe? are you not shooting yourself in the foot?

we all know this is just a starter to the propaganda ahead of 2019 so sheat your sword we all know the drill. and for your info, your atiku can never defeat osinbajo in 2019.

cc tonyebarcanista.

LordAdam16:


I've exposed your lies, now, you are saying who am I to decide for the Yorubas.

You said GEJ marginalized the SW. Then when I showed you what the SW got compared to other Southern regions under GEJ, you start bleating uncontrollably.

GEJ did not marginalize the SW. Na greed go arrange una.

You say all Yorubas are Yorubas irrespective of region. So let me ask you, would the SW give their next presidential slot to Saraki who is from the NC?

Just look at how you are disgracing yourself.

So, it is no longer about tribe now, it is gender.

You cannot prove that GEJ marginalized SW, yet you used a strong word that he was trying to annihilate you guys, you have a very big problem.

-Lord

schoolboij:


you still do not have any evidence that he was part of the group.

I can tell you that osinbajo will win SE , SS, SW and middle belt in 2019 if buhari decides not to run.

LordAdam16:


Sheath my sword.

It has already begun fella.

Osinbajo was one of the people who convinced the KSG to drop the probe. Others were Dangote and Dantata and some Northern Elite. The curious thing is why did Osinbajo join the foray? He exposed himself.

We all know Osinbajo cannot get more than 50% in the SW. He wouldn't even become the flag-bearer in APC as we know it in 2019.

Moreover, Buhari is recuperating in London and is set to return this month, so no road for Osinbajo, okay.

All of this is mainly to pocket whatever influence he thinks he is garnering by putting a kibosh on the Yoruba media that has been on full drive. If Tinubu can be cut to size, it is now Osinbajo with all his antecedents in the Lagos government.

Guy, don't try to be funny.

-Lord