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If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JackBizzle: 5:19pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Christian apologist Frank Turek got hit with a powerful question- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP3H6NSXgoI |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:47pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
God will not ask you to do such in this dispensation . Its that simple 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JackBizzle: 5:59pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: That is dodging the question. What if God actually asked you to do so? Hypothetical question 5 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by hopefulLandlord: 6:04pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Divine command theory "Killing is wrong but becomes right when my god commands it" "Genocide is wrong but becomes right when my god commands it" ever wondered why suicide bombing is increasing? 8 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JackBizzle: 6:13pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Not surprised. KingEbukasblog has no liver to answer the question. 4 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by hopefulLandlord: 6:17pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
JackBizzle: of course he can't, he wouldn't want to go down the same route as William Lane Craig Craig's best moment was his defense of the genocide and rape committed against the various Canaanite cities. While those of us with even a modicum of decency instantly recognize that genocide and rape can never be considered good and proper, Craig doesn't have that modicum of decency. The Bible clearly describes Yahweh calling for the Israelites to wipe out entire cities and to keep the virgin young women 'for your selves' (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). While there isn't a shred of compelling evidence for this Yahweh asshole, much less the destruction of those cities, to Craig, it's immaterial. His holy book says so and thus, how to rationalize what is so obviously monstrous and evil behavior. Not a problem!! Hesto-presto and it's called "Divine Command Theory"!!!! Here's how Craig rationalizes monstrous evil. God said, "do it". God cannot be wrong. God cannot be bad. God most certainly cannot be evil. Why? Because bronze age, middle eastern goat herders said so, that's why. So whatever God says or does is by definition, good. Therefore God commanding genocide and rape is good. Challenge Craig on this monstrous defense of monstrous evil and he simply doubles down. The people murdered deserved to be murdered so they were not harmed. The children murdered all went to heaven and so, were not harmed. The young women kept for sex slaves actually got themselves a swell Israelite soldier for a rapist (oops; 'husband') so they were not harmed. In fact, the only ones who could possibly be considered harmed were those poor Israelite soldiers who just might have been a bit upset at doing all that murdering and raping. Poor Israelite soldiers. Hand me a tissue (snort). That must be considered Craig's finest moment. After all, it takes a considerable amount of mental gymnastics and delusional self-deception for a 'Godly Christian' like Craig to rationalize genocide and rape. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by sonofluc1fer: 7:05pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Hmm, I wonder why. Probably because in this dispensation, fellow humans would consider you mad. Even crazy folks like you have better sense than Abraham. One can only hope that another dispensation won't come where divine instructions to kill children will be followed. Hopefully, Jesus was the last child God killed. 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by frank317: 7:22pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Lol... Ya right God only asked Abraham to do it in the dispensation he actually thought his creations were worthless. I guess he loves us better now. HALLELUJAH!! 3 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JackBizzle: 7:36pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Funny how Craig Williams died down when his porous answers were even ridiculed by christians on youtube. |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by ScepticalPyrrho: 7:50pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
frank317:Yahweh woke up one morning and decided to love for a change. His love was limited to Abraham and whatever child produced from his semen. Then extends biologically to the offsprings of his offsprings. Umm... except Ismael and Esau... He loved all the decendants of Abraham specially. He later decided to extend His love further to others who accepts the story his prophets and apostles wrote in a book about how he sacrificed himself, necessarily, to save us from his lake of fire prepared for those of us who dont accept the book as truly his own. A book... containing his egoistic and twisted sense of judgement, his support for murder, genocide, slavery, blood sacrifice, human sacrifice, to mention a few. In summary, Yahweh did all of this because he loves us... I aint judging though, how can I? It's just a myth afterall, an intelligent Designer/Creator cannot be so unreasonable. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Richirich713: 8:12pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Under no circumstances will he kill an innocent child, sounds like a lie - what if children were on a plane heading into to the twin towers? Pretty sure he' would try to stop that plane,even if it meant shooting it down, killing the children. Meaning that there are circumstances where an innocent life can be taken. |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by lepasharon(f): 8:31pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
JackBizzle: Johnnydon22 asked him this very question in another thread and he danced around it lol |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Amberon11: 9:28pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
The question is , did God let Abraham kill the child? No, He didn't do it then and He will not do it now. God Cannot ask us to kill even a guilty person talk more the innocent. so the answer to your mischievous question is NO! |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by hopefulLandlord: 10:11pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Amberon11: remind me how this theory of yours apply to the midianite and Canaanite infants go on, don't dance around or attempt to change your post 3 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JackBizzle: 10:14pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Amberon11: You clearly havent read the old testament where god orders so many killings 2 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by randomperson: 11:19pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Richirich713:If he's truly an omnipotent god, then he should be able to stop the plane without killing the children. That's the meaning of omnipotence 2 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by frank317: 11:30pm On Jun 02, 2017 |
Amberon11: Yes, God (if he exists) can ask us to kill even an innocent child. He actually asked Abraham to kill his own son for him just to determine how much Abraham loved him. Yes he didn't allow Abraham to kill his son, but do u know the sick thing? ABRAHAM WAS ACTUALLY READY TO KILL HIS SON FOR YAHWEH. AND THAT INTENT MADE YAHWEH FELT HE WAS REALLY LOVED BY ABRAHAM. Yahweh used the willingness of his follower to kill his own son to determine how much his follower loved him. What more can be more sick and disheartening than this? 1 Like |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by lepasharon(f): 12:04am On Jun 03, 2017 |
Amberon11: The amalekites? |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JhyMedex: 12:36am On Jun 03, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Wait!!! like seriously someone actually said something like that?.. ![]() Help with a video link please.... |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Pastafarian: 1:34am On Jun 03, 2017 |
JhyMedex: its on his website http://www.reasonablefaith.org/slaughter-of-the-canaanites In short, Craig says that the Israelites were right to completely destroy the Caananites, including the children, because God commanded it. This article by Craig, in defending such acts, defends genocide. Does genocide become acceptable if it occurred in ancient times? It seems to me that Craig is guilty of extreme moral relativism, to such an extent that any claim of his that Christianity provides an objective morality cannot be taken serious So the problem with violent Jihad isn't that it involves killing people but because WLC thinks that they are serving the wrong God? Way to impale oneself on the horns of the Euthyphro dilemma. So the difference between a suicide bomber and WLC is what exactly? 1 Like |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Pastafarian: 2:41am On Jun 03, 2017 |
frank317: Once you free your mind from seeing the Bible as the literal word of God, then you soon realize the Bible is just the Hebrews attempt to wrestle with the concept of God, theologically and culturally. Once your mind is free you are able to pursue a higher concept of deity, or you may decide there is no deity. Either way you are probably better off. It boggles my mind why people don't see this. Religious texts CONTAIN spiritual truths but are not LITERALLY true. Mankind down through the ages has wrestled with their place in the cosmos and various traditions/cultures' scriptures are a representation of that struggle. And so it is absurd that thousands of years later we still have people clinging to a their "favourite" interpretation of what's in the bible. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Richirich713: 8:34am On Jun 03, 2017 |
randomperson: That's moving the goal post, he never said anything about omnipotence, he said under no circumstances will he kill an innocent child - implying that it is always immoral to kill an innocent child regardless of the circumstances. if you agree with me that in those circumstances it's OK to shoot that plane down then u agree with me that there are situations in which taking an innocent life is not immoral. Meaning that it's not always immoral to take an innocent life. Plus if you want to include omnipotence, you also have to include omniscience and omnibenevolence. Meaning, if God commanded one to kill an innocent child - he'll always have sufficient reasons for doing so due to his omni attributes. He would also have the right to do so since he's the creator and sustainer of that life. 1 Like |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by dalaman: 8:40am On Jun 03, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Many people have killed and said God told them to do so in this dispensation. Any God that can tell you to kill your child before can always tell you to kill your child today. Remember the Lord changes not according to the bible. He is the same yesterday , today and forever. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by dalaman: 8:46am On Jun 03, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: William Craig has now discarded all this nonsense because he has realized it has made him sound evil. Now he runs away from the bible entirely by claiming that maybe the Jews that wrote the stories got it all wrong and God never told them to write down such horrible things. But most recently he just says he doesn't want to talk about OT morality because he knows it's indefensible honestly speaking. You can't defend the OT and not sound like Ibrahim Shekau or the leader of ISIS. 2 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by dalaman: 8:48am On Jun 03, 2017 |
JackBizzle: That's the main reason he stopped those nonsense, because even christians called him out on his madness. |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by sonofluc1fer: 9:04am On Jun 03, 2017 |
Richirich713:Brilliant. Now let's hop all you never hear that voice. |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Pastafarian: 9:27am On Jun 03, 2017 |
dalaman: Andrea Yates comes to mind andrea yates was doing the work of the Lord then just like she said when she drowned all her four children in the bathtub "God said I should do it to give them salvation" the most interesting part is how eerily accurate that logic is, according to Christians dead infants automatically make heaven!!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Richirich713: 10:03am On Jun 03, 2017 |
sonofluc1fer: Why not? Isn't killing innocent children just an opinion on your point of view? |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by sonofluc1fer: 11:06am On Jun 03, 2017 |
Richirich713:Pyschopath Richie. Richirich713:Classic misdirection. You've admitted to being a potential child killer. God just hasnt given the command yet. You will do anything for God, whether innocent baby or jungle justice. You will kill for God. God created. God sustains. God has the power and authority to take life . And you will be his instrument when He commamds. That's what matters, Richie. Not what you think I think of killing babies. Have a nice weekend, God's warrior. 4 Likes |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by JhyMedex: 11:37am On Jun 03, 2017 |
Pastafarian: What the heck did I just read?!!! ![]() I almost couldn't believe It... but there it was..right in front of me... A human being justifying the massacre of innocent men, women and children whose only offence was not being Israeli.... An archetypal Product of obstinate belief and perpetuation of behaviors we know deep down is inhumane and callous for no moral reason other than that we were told so by the Bible .... Funny part about the subject is that this man doesn't stand alone in his malevolent beliefs... Billions of people around the world, some of them very close to you and I actually believe that absolutely nothing was wrong with the genocide carried out by the Israelites on innocent tribes and people... This same people are quick the condemn the Hutu-Tsuti genocide in Rwanda ,the Cambodian genocides, Hitler's Jewish massacre ... Why?.. painful but not surprising that one was supposedly endorsed by God... We need to free ourselves from this magnitude of mental slavery ...Or I fear for the fate of the world!!... Tanx for sharing HopefulLandlord 1 Like |
Re: If God Asks You To Kill Your Child, Would You Do It? Funny Video! by Richirich713: 12:01pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
sonofluc1fer: ![]() sonofluc1fer:Classic dodge, the conversation can't just end there, u got to explain to me your views on the issue, not just assume killing innocent children is always wrong (I've already shown that to be false, there situations where it's not). From what I see, all you as an atheist can say is that killing innocent children it's just an rearrangement of molecules and the whole idea that it's wrong is just an subjective opinion. sonofluc1fer: I've admitted that I'll trust a being that has perfect knowledge and that always has sufficient and good reasons for any command he gives due to his omnibenevolence and omniscience. I've not admitted that I'll do something evil just because God commanded since that command would be impossible due to God omnibenevolence. sonofluc1fer: I'll like to know what u think, if you think your position is somehow superior to mine, let's hear it. |
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