Looks like someone has received some form of 'protection' from somewhere.

ephi321:


You don't get it do you?

Your statements are not only arrogant, but highly corrosive. The first thing that came to my mind reading what you wrote was I can imagine if this guy was a white American, he would be a staunch member of the KKK, extremely racist. And that is how the likes of Hitler and white supremacists started. You have no right to group a whole ethnic group together and talk in such a condescending manner. Do you have 2 heads or were you made differently from them?

Huge sigh! Even though you have failed to disprove what I said, I shall however apologize if you feel my position is supremacist and condescending to the igbo tribe. I never set out to insult the tribe, I only thought I was saying the truth;which is widely held in yorubaland.

ephi321:


I don't think it should be swept under the carpet. Such statements need to be addressed, because so far as I can see, he truly believes in what he is saying (which is even more worrisome) rather than saying it just to rile people up.

On a second thought, I find it very strange that you have raised umbrage over a sentiment that is widespread in yorubaland. We really don't see it as a big deal here because we know the problems that the Igbos face at home in the form of the erosion menace threatening the environment over there and the recent cries of Federal Government neglect by the SE has sensitized the Yoruba populace of the state of things in the SE hence the hospitality and warmth shown to the Igbos over the years. Take it easy dear, it is not as bad as you make it seem.

This write-up lacks substance and devoid of logical thinking. Not unexpected from the OP, though.
Creating an unnecessary and baseless assumption about 2019 with respect to Prof Osinbajo,obviously,an illusion. You need to figure out the Political atmosphere.

As much as I'm confident that nothing of such will happen (since the VP is smarter and wont make such a political error) the OP clearly illustrated how divisive we could continue to be.

ephi321:
This is how Nigerians keep focusing on region vis-a-vis presidency. No mention of qualification or what the candidates would bring to the table.

I can see we won't be making much progress anytime soon.

My thoughts exactly. Nearly every contributor to this thread, from the OP onward, seems to have been so heavily afflicted with tribalism as to be utterly incapable of logical thinking. Of what use is a President coming from any particular region if the person doesn't know what he's doing? How has Buhari made life better for the average person in his own native NW region? Is tribalistic pride in a President's ethnicity going to put food on anybody's table, give them better roads, provide them with decent and affordable hospitals, or put their children in better schools?

Instead of demanding candidates who advocate sensible policies that will lead to faster economic growth and higher FDI, so many cretins are on here going on about how it's the turn of one region or another, when what they're really talking about is how politicians from particular regions are using the same old appeals to tribalism to jostle for their chance to steal from the government till: it's simply nonsense to say "the north", "the SW" or "the SE" wants something or other, when it's actually small coteries of politicians from such regions who are doing the wanting. Nigeria has had 56 years of such elite manipulations, with virtually no economic development to show for it, but the very victims of such mismanagement are on here clamoring for more of the same!

I've said it before, but the Nigerian masses have no one else to blame for their predicament but themselves, for getting the abysmal levels of "leadership" they deserve for their idiotic tribalism.

seunmsg:


And who is this your credible northern candidate and on
which political platform will he contest?

NO particular candidate for now Sir!!!

On which platform, time will tell

omohayek:

My thoughts exactly. Nearly every contributor to this thread, from the OP onward, seems to have been so heavily afflicted with tribalism as to be utterly incapable of logical thinking. Of what use is a President coming from any particular region if the person doesn't know what he's doing? How has Buhari made life better for the average person in his own native NW region? Is tribalistic pride in a President's ethnicity going to put food on anybody's table, give them better roads, provide them with decent and affordable hospitals, or put their children in better schools?

Instead of demanding candidates who advocate sensible policies that will lead to faster economic growth and higher FDI, so many cretins are on here going on about how it's the turn of one region or another, when what they're really talking about is how politicians from particular regions are using the same old appeals to tribalism to jostle for their chance to steal from the government till: it's simply nonsense to say "the north", "the SW" or "the SE" wants something or other, when it's actually small coteries of politicians from such regions who are doing the wanting. Nigeria has had 56 years of such elite manipulations, with virtually no economic development to show for it, but the very victims of such mismanagement are on here clamoring for more of the same!

I've said it before, but the Nigerian masses have no one else to blame for their predicament but themselves, for getting the abysmal levels of "leadership" they deserve for their idiotic tribalism.

Thank you. Well said.

That's exactly how I came to the conclusion that we won't be making progress anytime soon. Nigerians deserve what they get. No more no less.

TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista



When he was first elevated to the status of Acting President on 19 January 2017, Professor Yemi Osinbajo embarked on a tour on Niger Delta region. His entourage include Minister of State for Petroleum, Ibe Ikachukwu; Minister of State for Agriculture, Senator Heineken Lokpobiri, as well as the Minister of Niger Delta Affairs. A move seen as a welcomed development by the good people of Niger Delta who saw it as a new chapter to finding lasting solution to the seemingly unending Niger Delta question. Not one of the rhetorical promises made to the people of Niger Delta by Acting President Osinbajo was ever fulfilled or rather, is yet to be fulfilled.

Some of us, however, suspected that the Osinbajo was neither interested in proffering solution to the Niger Delta question but to start a clandestine move to build his political capital ahead of 2019 Presidential election having read his body language.

As Vice President and sensing that President Buhari is/may be medically unfit to stand for re-election in 2019, Professor Yemi Osinbajo shifted his attention to build network in the north all for 2019.

On Thursday April 13, he went to Adamawa state to acquire the title of "Jagaban of Adamawa Emirate". Only yesterday, he went to Cross river state to collect another traditional title in Efik kingdom, Ada Idaha Ke Efik Eburutu. For what reason if not political?

While I recognize that the Nigeria Constitution gives Yemi Osinbajo the right to contest for any office, including the Presidency, I must also state that his clandestine moves to succeed Muhammadu Buhari in 2019 is counterproductive to the interest of Nigerians and threat to the unity of our country, this is aside his sheer incompetency in public service since he assumed office as Vice President, Chairman of National Planning Commission and Chairman of National Economic Council.

This article is not to talk about his preference for employing only people of his Yoruba ethnic group as Personal Aides, all these are stories for some other time. This article is strictly about the injustice that his Presidency will mean to the rest of the country if we allow it to materialise.

1. HIS PRESIDENCY IS UNJUST TO THE SOUTH
In the history of Nigeria, the Southwest and Yoruba nation have led the country for a combined period of 11 years and 11 months; Chief Olusegun Obasanjo held sway for 11 years and 8 months (8 years as President and 3 years and 8 months as Military ruler) while Ernest Shonekan held sway for 3 months.

Meanwhile, the South-south only led Nigeria for only 5 years and 25 days through Goodluck Jonathan, while the Southeast has NEVER led the country in Executive capacity save the 7 months under the military reign of General Aguiyi Ironsi.

Under this present democratic dispensation, SW and Yoruba nation has led the country for 8 years and has been occupying the Vice President office since 2015.

The Southsouth led the country for only 5 years and 25 days and occupied the office of Vice President for 3 years through Dr. Goodluck Jonathan.

The Southeast has neither produced the President nor the Vice President.

Being a multi-ethnic region, it will be highly unfair for one region and ethnic group to seek to occupy the slot of the South in the Presidency in 2019 irrespective of whether it is the office of the President or the Vice President. It will amount to injustice to the ethnic nationalities in the South save the Yoruba for Yemi Osinbajo to succeed Buhari in 2019..

2. HIS PRESIDENCY IS UNJUST TO THE NORTH:
Since the return of this democratic dispensation in 1999, while the South enjoyed power for a total of 13 years (SW 8, SS 5), while the north only did for 5 years and counting through late Umaru Musa Yar’adua (3 years) and Muhammadu Buhari (2 years and counting). If the status quo remains till 2019, the north will haul a meager combined period of 7 years; a far cry when compared with the 13 years that the South held sway.

It is both morally and politically just that the North be allowed to produce the President of Nigeria come 2019 for another 4 years period. We must realize that injustice is injustice anywhere. Allowing Osinbajo, a Yorubaman/Southerner to succeed Buhari in 2019 will only cause disaffection among those in the northern part of the country. There will be feelings of marginalization will crept in. This is a situation the country cannot afford to entertain at this period.

MY SUPPORT FOR NORTH/SOUTHEAST TICKET IN 2019
Nigeria belongs to everybody, it does not belong to a section of the country. While it is fair for power to remain in the north, it is also fair for the Southeast to be part of the equation after years of absence. The only way to allow justice prevail is for a North/Southeast Presidency in 2019.

This arrangement, I strongly believe will calm the nerves of the people of the Southeast, give the Igbo people a sense of ownership in the Nigeria project and a sense of belonging in the affairs of Nigeria.

The Yoruba nation has always stood for justice, I am optimistic that they will stand for what is right come 2019. I have no doubt in my mind that they will not oppose the aspiration of a credible aspirant from the northern extraction and an Igbo man to assume the office of the President and Vice President respectively in 2019.





May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

Only 9 likes! Yoruba likers don vex. They don't like what they are reading.

slivertongue:
Tonye you don buy market
i understand your framework of analysis is EQUITY but am sorry to disappoint you, Nigerians dont care about equal access to power and resources- they are pretenders. They moot rational values when they want power, when they get there they turn the rule on its head.
I want to believe you rightly relied on the campaign against GEJ seeking a 'third' term.
Finally, you just predicted 2019. Anyone believing the disunited South will win the presidency in 2019 is day dreaming. The country has been structured favor a Northerner.

My own is that we must all stand for what is just. Shutting the SE out of the political equation in 2019 is unjust and we should fight against it.

Alcatraz005:


Yorubas are very nice people. Of what need is it to argue with Igbos? We are not on the same level in Nigeria or elsewhere. Yorubas are thinking of how to build turn key infrastructure which has been articulated by the DAWN project for all southwest states and you are talking of naira land darts? Most people in Yoruba land see the igbos as refugees that need our help. Believe me man, the average Nigerian doesn't really regard the igbos as amounting to anything of consequence. I am telling you the gospel truth from the bottom of my heart. Yours truly only feels pity when I see any igbo in Yoruba land. They need our care and compassion.

I see them as bunch of immigrants, destitutes and disgusting reprobates.

TonyeBarcanista:

My own is that we must all stand for what is just. Shutting the SE out of the political equation in 2019 is unjust and we should fight against it.

I wish i av the courage to state the implication here on NL

omohayek:

My thoughts exactly. Nearly every contributor to this thread, from the OP onward, seems to have been so heavily afflicted with tribalism as to be utterly incapable of logical thinking. Of what use is a President coming from any particular region if the person doesn't know what he's doing? How has Buhari made life better for the average person in his own native NW region? Is tribalistic pride in a President's ethnicity going to put food on anybody's table, give them better roads, provide them with decent and affordable hospitals, or put their children in better schools?

Instead of demanding candidates who advocate sensible policies that will lead to faster economic growth and higher FDI, so many cretins are on here going on about how it's the turn of one region or another, when what they're really talking about is how politicians from particular regions are using the same old appeals to tribalism to jostle for their chance to steal from the government till: it's simply nonsense to say "the north", "the SW" or "the SE" wants something or other, when it's actually small coteries of politicians from such regions who are doing the wanting. Nigeria has had 56 years of such elite manipulations, with virtually no economic development to show for it, but the very victims of such mismanagement are on here clamoring for more of the same!

I've said it before, but the Nigerian masses have no one else to blame for their predicament but themselves, for getting the abysmal levels of "leadership" they deserve for their idiotic tribalism.

Stockholm Syndrome. 99% of Nigerians have developed that disease. Nigeria is doomed for life.

ColonelDrake:

I see them as bunch of immigrants, destitutes and reprobates.

Ephi321 you see what I am talking about? Most Yorubas hold this view and it is not really a big deal. It doesn't mean we are racist or ethnic jongoists either. This is just the way we see things. No bad blood whatsoever.

omohayek:

My thoughts exactly. Nearly every contributor to this thread, from the OP onward, seems to have been so heavily afflicted with tribalism as to be utterly incapable of logical thinking. Of what use is a President coming from any particular region if the person doesn't know what he's doing? How has Buhari made life better for the average person in his own native NW region? Is tribalistic pride in a President's ethnicity going to put food on anybody's table, give them better roads, provide them with decent and affordable hospitals, or put their children in better schools?

Instead of demanding candidates who advocate sensible policies that will lead to faster economic growth and higher FDI, so many cretins are on here going on about how it's the turn of one region or another, when what they're really talking about is how politicians from particular regions are using the same old appeals to tribalism to jostle for their chance to steal from the government till: it's simply nonsense to say "the north", "the SW" or "the SE" wants something or other, when it's actually small coteries of politicians from such regions who are doing the wanting. Nigeria has had 56 years of such elite manipulations, with virtually no economic development to show for it, but the very victims of such mismanagement are on here clamoring for more of the same!

I've said it before, but the Nigerian masses have no one else to blame for their predicament but themselves, for getting the abysmal levels of "leadership" they deserve for their idiotic tribalism.

Excellent argument, trouble is your views are 2 years late!

Why did you not make this argument when Buhari was preferred over Jonathan by the South West?

ephi321:


I don't think it should be swept under the carpet. Such statements need to be addressed, because so far as I can see, he truly believes in what he is saying (which is even more worrisome) rather than saying it just to rile people up.

...He does not believe the trash he is talking about..He is nothing but a cowardly troll who has been saying the same thing for years now,so ignore him cos no one except his equally delusional side-kicks takes him serious..

...Saying he is arrogant is like saying same to a street urchin at Ojuelegba

HiddenShadow:



Then forget One Nigeria

Igbos have people who can make Nigeria great

I am not begging for one Nigeria (and to be honest after Hausaland, Iboland will make for the least viable independent country. It is too smal, you are too many, you have no resources and few corporations. There is elite discord and destructive individualism.)

That aside, my point is that anybody can become president including Ibo if he is qualified.

Ngokafor:



...He does not believe the trash he is talking about..He is nothing but a cowardly troll who has been saying the same thing for years now,so ignore him cos no one except his fellow delusional side-kicks takes him serious..

...Saying he is arrogant is like saying same to a street urchin at Ojuelegba

I'm glad hucienda warned me, no point wasting precious time on a troll.

TonyeBarcanista:

Bro, this is one blackmail that can never move me.

Yorubas only recently occupied the Presidency for 8 unbroken years and VP for 2 years (and counting) of the 18 years of this dispensation. The North were begged to allow Jonathan in 2011 (which naturally should be their turn in the interest of equity and justice), while the Southeast is yet to produce a VP not to talk of the Presidency.

If you are fair you should be championing a northern Presidency and Igbo Presidency if you are for the interest of the South.

This is justice, Nigeria belongs to all of us.

But how come you conveniently omitted the periods of Gowon, Murtala, Shagari, Ekwueme as VP, Buhari's first coming, IBB and Abdusalaam if not for mischieve ? Are we to regard their era as not part of Nigeria history ?
Assuming that Osinbajo has his eyes on 2019 in case Buhari cannot contest, what on earth is wrong with that ? We know for sure he can never contest against Buhari. His own Yoruba stock will not even support him anyway.
He was put in that office by providence and if the same phenomenon choses to push him to the presidency, nothing can be done.
Are we not tired of northern leadership already ?
I suspect you were making a subtle campaign for a northerner.

TonyeBarcanista:

Bro, this is one blackmail that can never move me.

Yorubas only recently occupied the Presidency for 8 unbroken years and VP for 2 years (and counting) of the 18 years of this dispensation. The North were begged to allow Jonathan in 2011 (which naturally should be their turn in the interest of equity and justice), while the Southeast is yet to produce a VP not to talk of the Presidency.

If you are fair you should be championing a northern Presidency and Igbo Presidency if you are for the interest of the South.

This is justice, Nigeria belongs to all of us.

If u want to be fair to S/E as u claim, dn it shld be S/E 4 presdnt and vp frm mayb N/E

DLioness:
If u want to be fair to S/E as u claim, dn it shld be S/E 4 presdnt and vp frm mayb N/E

True fairness is North/East first and East/North later.


We aren't in a haste

krendo:


Excellent argument, trouble is your views are 2 years late!

Why did you not make this argument when Buhari was preferred over Jonathan by the South West?

It shows the limitations in your capacity for rational thought that you assume I must have been here to be giving an opinion 2 years ago, when I didn't even know of this forum's existence at the time. Your ridiculous insinuation is an illustration of the precise problem I'm pointing out.

HiddenShadow:


True fairness is North/East first and East/North later.

We aren't in a haste

Nigeria didnt start 1999.

Alcatraz005:


No no no, I don't buy this line of argument. You can't keep threatening secession if things don't go your way. That is not how to build trust and concensus in a nation.

Please show me which Igbo leader has threatened Biafra? Is it Peter Obi or Soludo? Nnamdi Kanu does not speak for all Igbo people who are diverse.

Maduawuchukwu:


Please show me which Igbo leader has threatened Biafra? Is it Peter Obi or Soludo? Nnamdi Kanu does not speak for all Igbo people who are diverse.

If more people like you speak up for the Igbo, an igbo man would be in aso rock as soon as 2023.

BlakKluKluxKlan:



But how come you conveniently omitted the periods of Gowon, Murtala, Shagari, Ekwueme as VP, Buhari's first coming, IBB and Abdusalaam if not for mischieve ? Are we to regard their era as not part of Nigeria history ?
Assuming that Osinbajo has his eyes on 2019 in case Buhari cannot contest, what on earth is wrong with that ? We know for sure he can never contest against Buhari. His own Yoruba stock will not even support him anyway.
He was put in that office by providence and if the same phenomenon choses to push him to the presidency, nothing can be done.
Are we not tired of northern leadership already ?
I suspect you were making a subtle campaign for a northerner.

Which Providence? Whether Buhari contest or not, power remains in the north while VP shift to East. We shall campaign and fight for this in the interest of equity and justice.

DLioness:
If u want to be fair to S/E as u claim, dn it shld be S/E 4 presdnt and vp frm mayb N/E

I don't agree. Having ruled the country for 13/years out of 18 years since the return of democracy, it will not be fair for the South to lead in 2019.


A North/SE 2019 ticket and SE/North 2023/2027 Presidency is very fair and give everyone sense of belonging.

The SW and SS must chill for a couple of years.

Elections are about competence and national integration, afterall democracy is a conflict resolution mechanism. If you can find a candidate who is qualified and who is from a region whose ascendancy will help national integration then by all means choose him. Obasanjo is already talking of Igbo presidency and he met with Peter Obi some weeks ago. Something tells me the great nationalist is cooking some "nationalistic" plot.

TonyeBarcanista:

Which Providence? Whether Buhari contest or not, power remains in the north while VP shift to East. We shall campaign and fight for this in the interest of equity and justice.

Anybody opposing Northern candidacy in 2019 is not realistic. We should choose from the many nationalistic elements in the north who are also competent. Atiku, Dankwambo, Sule Lamido etc. Dem plenty so there is no excuse.

guy receive some sence

HiddenShadow:



You spoke wisely


The Yorubas can keep fooling themselves


Power must go round and this time around

2019-2027
North= President
East= Vice President

2027-2035
East= President
North= Vice President


This is how it should be in the interest of fairness, equity and justice

Lmao. No more biaffra right? Chaii

I concur...
I finished all my likes for this thread so
People who are not happy are definitely people that wants the status quo to remain... They abhor justice.

Maduawuchukwu:


Anybody opposing Northern candidacy in 2019 is not realistic. We should choose from the many nationalistic elements in the north who are also competent. Atiku, Dankwambo, Sule Lamido etc. Dem plenty so there is no excuse.

Gbam... We should choose from among interested Northerners and ensure that the SE complete the pairing, else, no deal!!!

Leadership must go round!!!