For those who go about shouting "God knows his saints", no one doubts that at all. However, since when did God stop revealing things to His Church on earth? He revealed the books of the bible to same men, and he can't reveal his true saints to them? These are men who have the power to test spirits and determine which is true 1John 4:1. When Jesus talked about Abraham's bosom, did the Jews understand Abraham as being in a place of rest or a place of suffering? Did they tell Christ "Only God knows where Abraham is bla bla bla"? Once its the Catholic Church, some people just stop making use of their brain, yet Christianity as they know it was preserved and still defended by the Catholic church, 2000 years and still strong, the gates of hell shall never prevail against her Matt.16:18

plappville:


Best comment so far.

God Knows His Saints.



Bible > Jeremiah > Chapter 17 > Verse 10
◄ Jeremiah 17:10 ►
"I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve."


People should read the book of Acts 8:1-25 you will see that Philip converts many in Samaria including a magician called Simon the sorcery. Simon was baptised. But yet, Philip could not see through His heart to know He was only pretending to have accepted the Gospel.

Thank God Peter and John came to Samaria. During the event of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit performed by them, Simon exposed Himself shamefully.

There are still many Simon today. Many are Dead Saints, Pastors and floor members. You who sin can certify someone to be a Saint. Only God knows His own. Let the bible help us to think right, act right and accept things rightly! God Bless His Church.

hahahahaha, Isn't it educative that this deceitful person didn't escape Peter? It is there in front of you, but you cannot see. Until you show me where it is impossible for God to reveal his saints to the Church; you have no point.

Syncan:


hahahahaha, Isn't it educative that this deceitful person didn't escape Peter? It is there in front of you, but you cannot see. Until you show me where it is impossible for God to reveal his saints to the Church; you have no point.

Is the Pope Jesus? See what he said when Islamist Terrorist attacked Paris simply because Muhammad was Caricatured.

I saw it live on the TV. He was ready to blow up that mans head ...

See what Jesus says about anyone that say a thing about Him:

Matthew 12:32 ►
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

Syncan:


hahahahaha, Isn't it educative that this deceitful person didn't escape Peter? It is there in front of you, but you cannot see. Until you show me where it is impossible for God to reveal his saints to the Church; you have no point.

The message here is that, Non of the Apostles could know If Simon was truly converted. This is because they couldn't read his heart. Only God can read your heart.
If Simon had not requested to pay them. They wouldn't have known. Grab the message. Pope is not Jesus nor God. He cannot trust himself how much more others to be pure!

plappville:


The message here is that, Non of the Apostles could know If Simon was truly converted. This is because they couldn't read his heart. Only God can read your heart.
If Simon had not requested to pay them. They wouldn't have known. Grab the message. Pope is not Jesus nor God. He cannot trust himself how much more others to be pure!

I continue to marvel how hatred for the Church cloud your judgement. Did ananias and sapphira also attempt to bribe Peter for him to know they were telling lies, Or you don't have Acts 5:1-11 in your bible? Meditate on the words of Peter, an ordinary man, "who cannot trust himself" in that passage, But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost... Acts.5:3, who did ananias talk to, how come the lie was to the Holy Ghost? Does the Holy Ghost know all things? Did the Holy Ghost reveal it to Peter? Ask yourself for enlightenment, God bless you as you do.

plappville:


Is the Pope Jesus? See what he said when Islamist Terrorist attacked Paris simply because Muhammad was Caricatured.

I saw it live on the TV. He was ready to blow up that mans head ...

See what Jesus says about anyone that say a thing about Him:

Matthew 12:32 ►
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

Liar! Since when did Punching a man's face become blowing up a man? Going by your biased analysis let me show you what Peter did "Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus". John 18:10. Even Jesus asked the servant that slapped him why he did so John 18:22. I know you'll praise a man who abuses your mother, the Pope only made it clear that he won't take insult to his mother kindly. Are you struggling with the meaning of aberration, Or is it not an aberration to kill in the name of God? What exactly is wrong with the Pope's speech there, or is religion an excuse for violence? I just don't get this blindness by hatred.

Syncan:


That's why you shouldn't stand in Judgement over those who know more than you, first you believe a book we gave you as the totality of your faith, when the book even tells you there are other teachings outside it. Secondly you deny the authority of those who compiled the book and actually gave it the authority it possesses, while ascribing all authority to the book, when the book itself tells you the authority belongs to those whose property it is. In as much as it isn't a problem for me to reel out biblical passages there, but you're too ignorant yet to understand, you need to be humble and learn a bit more as a christian, that you may understand, else you'll wrest it unto your own destruction as peter warned 2Pet.3:16.

Homework for you: When a Christian praises God by saying: "The one who swallowed what swallowed the Elephant, or , my bullet proof", can you find these in scripture or has the christian derailed?

PLEASE, REEL OUT THE BIBLE PASSAGES. STOP BEATING ABOUT THE BUSH.

omojeesu:


PLEASE, REEL OUT THE BIBLE PASSAGES. STOP BEATING ABOUT THE BUSH.

No my child, I cannot do that, for you are yet a babe and need milk not meat; for to ones like you did St. Paul speak thus "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able 1Cor.3:1-2. Kindly do the home work and get back to me for now.

plappville:


Is the Pope Jesus? See what he said when Islamist Terrorist attacked Paris simply because Muhammad was Caricatured.

I saw it live on the TV. He was ready to blow up that mans head ...

See what Jesus says about anyone that say a thing about Him:

Matthew 12:32 ►
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

Which Jesus are you talking about?

The one that flogged people with koboko because they were doing nonsense in his father's house?

Syncan:


No my child, I cannot do that, for you are yet a babe and need milk not meat; for to ones like you did St. Paul speak thus "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able 1Cor.3:1-2. Kindly do the home work and get back to me for now.

Artful dodger! Pity you can't use scripture to defend your Mother.

You've failed her woefully!

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and BE READY ALWAYS TO GIVE an ANSWER to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

You have no answer because there's no answer: Your Mary has no basis in the Bible.

omojeesu:


Artful dodger! Pity you can't use scripture to defend your Mother.

You've failed her woefully!

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and BE READY ALWAYS TO GIVE an ANSWER to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

You have no answer because there's no answer: Your Mary has no basis in the Bible.

Where did Jesus mention "bible?"

Your bible has no basis in the bible.

italo:


Where did Jesus mention "bible?"

Your bible has no basis in the bible.

Italo my post was not for you. Your question is out of context and irrelevant to our discussion.

omojeesu:


Artful dodger! Pity you can't use scripture to defend your Mother.

You've failed her woefully!

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and BE READY ALWAYS TO GIVE an ANSWER to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

You have no answer because there's no answer: Your Mary has no basis in the Bible.

Hahahahaha, my child, are you saying Jesus was wrong in Lk.23:9, for it says : "He plied him with many questions, but Jesus gave him no answer", or you think Jesus didn't have answers for whatever questions he had? You have a lot to learn, the earlier you humble yourself, the better for you.

omojeesu:


Italo my post was not for you. Your question is out of context and irrelevant to our discussion.

Not at all. His question is same as yours, hence your ridiculous conclusions are same...."No basis in the bible". It is very much relevant to our discourse.

Syncan:


I continue to marvel how hatred for the Church cloud your judgement. Did ananias and sapphira also attempt to bribe Peter for him to know they were telling lies, Or you don't have Acts 5:1-11 in your bible? Meditate on the words of Peter, an ordinary man, "who cannot trust himself" in that passage, But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost... Acts.5:3, who did ananias talk to, how come the lie was to the Holy Ghost? Does the Holy Ghost know all things? Did the Holy Ghost reveal it to Peter? Ask yourself for enlightenment, God bless you as you do.

What Hatred? It baffles me How aome of You Catholics behave like the Muslims. When Muslim terrorist kill and we cry about it, they will say we hate Islam. When a Catholic leader do something wrong and we noticed it, You will say Its hatred for the Church. I just told you what the Pope did. And you concluded its hatred for the Church. I dont have a specific building where i worship God. I do fellowship with Baptists. But i jave no problem entering the Catholic Church or any other church for fellowship. The only place i cannot enter is the Mosque. Dont think you are more Christ-Like than others. Self rightousness is bad.

Annanias and Sapphira's Issues are not Same as this one. Simon openly asked them to sell the Gift of the Holy spirit to Him. I never mentioned that Peter had not the Holy spirit in Him. You are the one insinuating that.

I told you that Only God. I mean Only God can read the Heart of a man. Only Him knows His true "SAINTS"
THE Pope cannot and will never be in a position to Know. Deal with this biblical TRUTH!

◄ 1 Corinthians 2:11 ►
For who knows a person's thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God


Man cannot know another Mans thought. Only God knows our hearts, and only He knows whether a person has sincerely put his faith in Christ as his Lord and Savior. Jesus warned,


"Do not judge, or you too will be judged" (Matthew 7:1).

plappville:


What Hatred? It baffles me How aome of You Catholics behave like the Muslims. When Muslim terrorist kill and we cry about it, they will say we hate Islam. When a Catholic leader do something wrong and we noticed it, You will say Its hatred for the Church. I just told you what the Pope did. And you concluded its hatred for the Church. I dont have a specific building where i worship God. I do fellowship with Baptists. But i jave no problem entering the Catholic Church or any other church for fellowship. The only place i cannot enter is the Mosque. Dont think you are more Christ-Like than others. Self rightousness is bad.

Annanias and Sapphira's Issues are not Same as this one. Simon openly asked them to sell the Gift of the Holy spirit to Him. I never mentioned that Peter had not the Holy spirit in Him. You are the one insinuating that.

I told you that Only God. I mean Only God can read the Heart of a man. Only Him knows His true "SAINTS"
THE Pope cannot and will never be in a position to Know. Deal with this biblical TRUTH!

◄ 1 Corinthians 2:11 ►
For who knows a person's thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God


Man cannot know another Mans thought. Only God knows our hearts, and only He knows whether a person has sincerely put his faith in Christ as his Lord and Savior. Jesus warned,


"Do not judge, or you too will be judged" (Matthew 7:1).

Hogwash. Peter was a man, but he knew the heart of Ananias and Saphira. Until you believe that Peter and the Pope are in Him; as He is in the Father John 14:20, then you are like Ethiopian eunuch who reads without understanding Acts 8:31. Accuser of the brethren, you haven't pointed out what he did wrong. I won't call you a hypocrite yet for suggesting you won't defend your mother's honor against abuse, because you may actually be that kind of a child. Jesus however showed you that He wasn't that kind when he drove out people from his father's house. You keep quoting things you don't know about, the question hanging there for you is how did Peter know the thoughts of those couple and why did he say they have lied to the Holy Spirit "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost... Acts.5:3. Until you have answers to those questions, you better don't speak in ignorance.

Syncan:



Liar! Since when did Punching a man's face become blowing up a man?

Check the meaning in that Picture.

[/b]Going by your biased analysis let me show you what Peter did "Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus". [b]John 18:10.

Who is been biased Here, now where is the remaining verse that shows How Jesus reacted when Peter did such? Did Jesus rejoice or rebuked Him? Let me help u continue..◄ John 18:11 ►
Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?


Mathews account made it even clearer:
Matthew 26:52 ►
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword

Even Jesus asked the servant that slapped him why he did so John 18:22.

Did i just read that Jesus asked him why? Where is it wrong to asked Question? Did the Pope ased question or He showed an example to the world that. Do not tolerate anyone who abuse your religion or mother. The Pope justify The Tertorist act as due to provocation. Where is the forgiveness Jesus taught us? If you punch aomeone that insult ur Mom do you think the person will smile at you? Of course no, He will punch you back this is total violence!

I know you'll praise a man who abuses your mother, the Pope only made it clear that he won't take insult to his mother kindly. Are you struggling with the meaning of aberration, Or is it not an aberration to kill in the name of God? What exactly is wrong with the Pope's speech there, or is religion an excuse for violence? I just don't get this blindness by hatred.

Let him follow This example. And then show good example. Stop supporting Bad thing.

Matthew 12:32 ►
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

italo:


Which Jesus are you talking about?

The one that flogged people with koboko because they were doing nonsense in his father's house?

Hi Italo alias Pope, longest time.

I am not ready to engage with you. You are now comparing the cleansing of the Temple. To when one sin against ur Mom ? Where did you read that Jesus flogged anyone?

15 And He made a scourge of cords, [b]and drove them all out of the temple, [/b]with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables;

16 and to those who were selling the doves He said, “Take these things away; stop making My Father’s house a place of business.”


Did you read Hit them with the cords? Do not fall into ain by trying so hard to defend the Pope. Just an advice for you.

plappville:


Check the meaning in that Picture.

Who is been biased Here, now where is the remaining verse that shows How Jesus reacted when Peter did such? Did Jesus rejoice or rebuked Him? Let me help u continue..◄ John 18:11 ►
Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?


Mathews account made it even clearer:
Matthew 26:52 ►
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword



Did i just read that Jesus asked him why? Where is it wrong to asked Question? Did the Pope ased question or He showed an example to the world that. Do not tolerate anyone who abuse your religion or mother. The Pope justify The Tertorist act as due to provocation. Where is the forgiveness Jesus taught us? If you punch aomeone that insult ur Mom do you think the person will smile at you? Of course no, He will punch you back this is total violence!

Let him follow This example. And then show good example. Stop supporting Bad thing.

Matthew 12:32 ►
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

I rarely read broken down posts the way you just did, things escape my attention that way. You may use paragraphs or numbering instead if you wish.

Jesus stated his reason for that clearly, he has "a cup to drink", I guess you didn't see that. The Pope cautioned those who provoke others by attacking their religion, same way Ephesians 6:4 says, “Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger" and the Pope condemned killing in the name of religion, yet you accuse him of what your weird imaginations produce. The picture you posted is self telling, the Popes words were well written there, only accusers of the brethren will find something wrong there with someone who is trying to use himself as an example of the ordinary man you have to deal with daily.

To hide your lies you posted meaning of "Punching" someone, let's see the meaning of "blowing up" someone as well. Since according to you, they are the same.

Syncan:



Hahahahaha, my child, are you saying Jesus was wrong in Lk.23:9, for it says : "He plied him with many questions, but Jesus gave him no answer", or you think Jesus didn't have answers for whatever questions he had? You have a lot to learn, the earlier you humble yourself, the better for you.

Comedian!

So I'm now Pilate and you're Jesus?
Jesus' silence was strategic to fulfil prophesy for your salvation and mine. I received that salvation more than 3 decades ago. It's apparent that you are yet to.

Up till this time He never elected not to answer a question in public or private while ministering. But under an unjust kangaroo trial He chose to be silent because of us.

Syncan:


Not at all. His question is same as yours, hence your ridiculous conclusions are same...."No basis in the bible". It is very much relevant to our discourse.

Italo is your partner. I have no business with him.

omojeesu:


Comedian!

So I'm now Pilate and you're Jesus?
Jesus' silence was strategic to fulfil prophesy for your salvation and mine. I received that salvation more than 3 decades ago. It's apparent that you are yet to.

Up till this time He never elected not to answer a question in public or private while ministering. But under an unjust kangaroo trial He chose to be silent because of us.

I don't know what you are, but am just emulating the Lord. Look at your claim in bold, is it that you haven't read Lk.20:8 "And Jesus said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things". Didn't i tell you that you have a lot to learn? You don't deserve the answer, just like these folks who Jesus refused to answer.

Syncan:


I don't know what you are, but am just emulating the Lord. Look at your claim in bold, is it that you haven't read Lk.20:8 "And Jesus said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things". Didn't i tell you that you have a lot to learn? You don't deserve the answer, just like these folks who Jesus refused to answer.

KEEP HIDING IN YOUR PRISON CHAINED DOWN BY THE DECEITFULNESS OF AN INSTITUTION RUN BY MEN WITHOUT CHRIST. I CLOSE MY CASE BUT PRAY THAT ONE DAY WE SHALL MEET SAVED IN THE PRESENCE OF CHRIST. (I WON'T NEED TO PASS THROUGH PURGATORY, HOWEVER, TO BE WITH MY LORD AND SAVIOUR. I PRAY THAT THIS ALSO WILL BE YOUR LOT). SO LONG!

omojeesu:


KEEP HIDING IN YOUR PRISON CHAINED DOWN BY THE DECEITFULNESS OF AN INSTITUTION RUN BY MEN WITHOUT CHRIST. I CLOSE MY CASE BUT PRAY THAT ONE DAY WE SHALL MEET SAVED IN THE PRESENCE OF CHRIST. (I WON'T NEED TO PASS THROUGH PURGATORY, HOWEVER, TO BE WITH MY LORD AND SAVIOUR. I PRAY THAT THIS ALSO WILL BE YOUR LOT). SO LONG!

Unfortunately my child, you're the one who believe their word as true, but does not believe them as honest. You believe men of this institution when they tell you that this collection of books is of God, but you don't believe same men are of God. Isn't it ridiculous? It has always been my prayer that we all meet in perfect state before our Lord and that is why I take out time to instruct you and folks like you, so that we may run the race in the best way supporting each other. I do not wish you, I, nor anyone, to pass through purgatory; for it is a horrible thing to undergo punishment when you can no longer plead for yourself. This is a cogent reason why It's important you learn these things while on earth, that you may not have any reason to delay your entering the kingdom. God be with you.

plappville:


Hi Italo alias Pope, longest time.

I am not ready to engage with you. You are now comparing the cleansing of the Temple. To when one sin against ur Mom ? Where did you read that Jesus flogged anyone?

15 And He made a scourge of cords, [b]and drove them all out of the temple, [/b]with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables;

16 and to those who were selling the doves He said, “Take these things away; stop making My Father’s house a place of business.”


Did you read Hit them with the cords? Do not fall into ain by trying so hard to defend the Pope. Just an advice for you.

It was a deliberate overstatement.

So the Pope says he will punch anyone who offends his mother...but his mother is late so he cant punch anyone...

But Jesus actually made a whip to chase out people who offended his father throwing their tables and chairs upside down...and you want me to believe the whip was to romance the people.

Who is more violent?

Syncan:



I rarely read broken down posts the way you just did, things escape my attention that way. You may use paragraphs or numbering instead if you wish.

Jesus stated his reason for that clearly, he has "a cup to drink", I guess you didn't see that. The Pope cautioned those who provoke others by attacking their religion, same way Ephesians 6:4 says, “Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger" and the Pope condemned killing in the name of religion, yet you accuse him of what your weird imaginations produce. The picture you posted is self telling, the Popes words were well written there, only accusers of the brethren will find something wrong there with someone who is trying to use himself as an example of the ordinary man you have to deal with daily.

To hide your lies you posted meaning of "Punching" someone, let's see the meaning of "blowing up" someone as well. Since according to you, they are the same.

Read yourself.. what are you even insinuating? Jésus stated His reason for what?

italo:


It was a deliberate overstatement.

So the Pope says he will punch anyone who offends his mother...but his mother is late so he cant punch anyone...

But Jesus actually made a whip to chase out people who offended his father throwing their tables and chairs upside down...and you want me to believe the whip was to romance the people.

Who is more violent?

He has a Mom or not. His statement was misleading as a Spiritual Leader.

Oh! You now agree Jesus have a Father? I thought you have claimed He is the Father Himself in the Past?

Can you prove where He whiplash anyone? Thanks.

plappville:


He has a Mom or not. His statement was misleading as a Spiritual Leader.

Oh! You now agree Jesus have a Father? I thought you have claimed He is the Father Himself in the Past?

Can you prove where He whiplash anyone? Thanks.

I have already said that was a deliberate overstatement. Is it that you cant read...or you cant understand what you read. Just like I cant prove he whipped anyone, you cant prove he didnt whip anyone.

Now I asked you something which you dodged.

So the Pope says he will punch anyone who offends his mother...but his mother is late so he cant punch anyone...

But Jesus actually made a whip to chase out people who offended his father throwing their tables and chairs upside down...and you want me to believe the whip was to romance the people.

Who is more violent?

plappville:


Read yourself.. what are you even insinuating? Jésus stated His reason for what?

What else do I expect from one who says punching someone is same as blowing up someone, just out of hatred for the Pope.

italo:


I have already said that was a deliberate overstatement. Is it that you cant read...or you cant understand what you read. Just like I cant prove he whipped anyone, you cant prove he didnt whip anyone.

Now I asked you something which you dodged.

So the Pope says he will punch anyone who offends his mother...but his mother is late so he cant punch anyone...

But Jesus actually made a whip to chase out people who offended his father throwing their tables and chairs upside down...and you want me to believe the whip was to romance the people.

Who is more violent?

You go old well well and yet she won't provide an answer to your question.

jnrbayano:


You go old well well and yet she won't provide an answer to your question.

I know na...e don tey wey I know her.

italo:


I have already said that was a deliberate overstatement. Is it that you cant read...or you cant understand what you read. Just like I cant prove he whipped anyone, you cant prove he didnt whip anyone.

Now I asked you something which you dodged.

So the Pope says he will punch anyone who offends his mother...but his mother is late so he cant punch anyone...

But Jesus actually made a whip to chase out people who offended his father throwing their tables and chairs upside down...and you want me to believe the whip was to romance the people.

Who is more violent?

Accoding to the Scripture, Jesus was never violent.

And there’s no indication whatsoever in that verse that says His action involved violence. Sure, Jesus turned tables over. But this was to put an immediate stop to the corrupt commerce that was taking place as well as perhaps to free the caged animals. There’s no mention of any person or animal getting hurt in the process as you think.

And yes, Jesus made a whip. But there’s no mention of him using it to strike any animal, let alone human.
Whip has always been the most effective means of controling the movement of large group of animals.
Jesus wanted to create a stampede of animals out of the temple, and there’s no reason for you to say he used the whip for any other purpose than this.

When we read this passage in context, we can see that His action was to drive out the animals, we cannot use this passage as justification for violence.

I still stand by my words. The Pope made a statement that can provoke violence. If You and I should take him seriously, then we will punch anyone that insults our Mother. I am not engaging with you on any Catholic argument. So do not expect any reply after this. Thank you.