iblawi:
Can Kenyans post another rail apart from there Chinese project?

shervydman:


o boy............. u get wahala o, leave the matter jare.

they're even tired....they have nothing against 9ja than KUBWA ........ask them to show u monorails and cable cars now, na another wahala.

abeg, bone that thing jor

Seriously it seems like these Kenyans have absolutely nothing else to show or offer other than that Chinese built railway project.
No wonder it has been named the biggest project since Kenyan independence.

Such a shame that the Chinese had to give them their biggest project for life!

shervydman:

oh, yes....thanks a lot....
i'm kinda 'lethologica' in nature.............thanks, u must be very brilliant.

What makes you say so

shervydman:


its greater,bro..........u know anything Lagos na enu.

Really, Abuja can catch up or even surpass Lagos in 10 years from now.

Marcelo290:
So didju watch the match today? you a fan of football?

I didn't I'm not a fan. Tho I do watch incase I find myself in an environment where people are watching.

technology and skills transfer was a key element of the sgr project

East Africas first female train operators ,








more than 70 kenyan students were sponsored to Chinese universities by the government to acquire railway engineering technology in cooperation with china, a quarter were teachers that will become lectures at the Kenya railways training institute
















an additional 2,000 Kenyans were trained locally at the Kenya railway training institute by Chinese lecturers in advanced engineering courses to operate and maintain the modern railway line

iblawi:


If those employed by Chinese contractors for the biggest project in Kenya's history still wake up from slums and walk to work, then there is no hope for native Kenyan.

This is a confirmation that Kenyans don't even live in the estates they post here. They are meant for foreigners while while they stay in close by slums.

If I'm correct I believe u dont stay either in those that yo brothers post.

I see the ignorance is still a big problem for some of you guys. Or your just in denial coz when your informed yo still trynuh act dumb

I see you guys are still at it

Nowenuse:


Really, Abuja can catch up or even surpass Lagos in 10 years from now.

I'm not sure about that.......Abuja na low key now, its just an administrative capital, its not even a state; remember?

Nowenuse:



Seriously it seems like these Kenyans have absolutely nothing else to show or offer other than that Chinese built railway project.
No wonder it has been named the biggest project since Kenyan independence.

Such a shame that the Chinese had to give them their biggest project for life!

but, Chinese are building ours too...........the only diff is that we're giving them full payment!

CocoMilian:


Lol what do u have against blondes??

Nawapenda sana, I have a colleague who makes my day everyday....

iblawi:


You are free to borrow from Uganda too if need be. We haven't moved to other states yet and you are out of pics already.

Next time you will respect your seniors.

I haven't seen anything of substance you've posted...

Nowenuse:


No need for you to be back. It's already over. The winner has already been confirmed. thanks to arinzeejikonye and others.

Hahaha we were not competing on number of post made but quality of the post with Nigeria can only learn.

arinzeejikonye:


You look for 1000th %quality too, that you don't admire them doesn't make them less beautiful,

Anyday, anytime, bro

Don't know for tomorrow though, maybe,

One love.

Getting 1000% in 254 is acup of tea... Have ablessed Sunday..

TayserMahiri:


Huh, See what Nigerians got from China after the billions

Brand New KUBWA Station

And what Kenya got from the same Chinese

You have to swallow this sad reality because you hardly take your govt to account

fool, nigeria got that with only $860millions while Kenya got theirs with whopping $3.9 billions ,abuja-kaduna line is 200km while Nairobi-Mombasa line is just 400km do the calculation your self ...even Ethiopian rail was far cheaper and better The $3.4 billion project was built by two Chinese companies and is the first to be electrified in Africa.
Compare that to phase 1 of Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway. Its cost stands at Sh367 billion(3., almost the same as the Ethiopian line, but more than 100 km shorter.
That begs the questions: Has Ethiopia built an inferior line or is Kenya not getting value for money or is our money being stolen?

TayserMahiri:

This is how a cargo station should look like, not like KUBWA
The Likes of Kubwa are meant for Nigeria. Even the Chinese know that

$860 millions vs $3.8 billions...?

68816419:

fool, nigeria got that with only $860millions while Kenya got theirs with whopping $3.9 billions ,abuja-kaduna line is 200km while Nairobi-Mombasa line is just 400km do the calculation your self ...even Ethiopian rail was far cheaper and better The $3.4 billion project was built by two Chinese companies and is the first to be electrified in Africa.
Compare that to phase 1 of Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway. Its cost stands at Sh367 billion(3., almost the same as the Ethiopian line, but more than 100 km shorter.
That begs the questions: Has Ethiopia built an inferior line or is Kenya not getting value for money or is our money being stolen?

Actually there is an explanation for this, lemme copy paste it for yoou

68816419:

fool, nigeria got that with only $860millions while Kenya got theirs with whopping $3.9 billions ,abuja-kaduna line is 200km while Nairobi-Mombasa line is just 400km do the calculation your self ...even Ethiopian rail was far cheaper and better The $3.4 billion project was built by two Chinese companies and is the first to be electrified in Africa.
Compare that to phase 1 of Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway. Its cost stands at Sh367 billion(3., almost the same as the Ethiopian line, but more than 100 km shorter.
That begs the questions: Has Ethiopia built an inferior line or is Kenya not getting value for money or is our money being stolen?

This is a question that has refused to go away. Why has Ethiopia managed to build an electrified Standard Gauge Railway for less money than Kenya, whose SGR is not even electric?
The 750 km Ethiopia-Djibouti line was unveiled on Wednesday. It will link Addis Ababa to the Red Sea port city of Djibouti.
“This train will speed up the development of our country’s manufacturing industry and it will provide huge benefits to the industrial parks and modern farms that will be built in the future. It will give employment opportunities for our citizens,” Prime Minister Desalegn said at the launch ceremony

Travelling at 120km/h, the new service will cut the journey time down from three days by road to about 12 hours.
“We’re so excited! It takes two or three days for a truck to come from Djibouti,” said Ethiopian importer Tingrit Worku. “The train could make a huge difference.”
The $3.4 billion project was built by two Chinese companies and is the first to be electrified in Sub saharan Africa out of Zimbabwe and South Africa

Compare that to phase 1 of Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway. Its cost stands at Sh327 billion, almost the same as the Ethiopian line, but more than 100 km shorter.
That begs the questions: Has Ethiopia built an inferior line or is Kenya not getting value for money or is our money being stolen?
The answers are in the details.
First and foremost, it’s good to note that electric does not always mean superfast. The Ethiopian line is only 40km/h faster than the Kenyan line.
Furthermore, Ethiopia’s electricity generation is about to explode with the construction of the 6,000mw Grand Renaissance Dam , which will give the train service stable power supply. (Kenya Power comes to mind)
One of the main reason why the Kenyan line is expensive is the massive bridges some stretching kilometres. Unlike the iron fist government in Ethiopia, Kenya has to listen to all voices which led to allowances for wild animals in Tsavo and Nairobi National Park. These bridges have contributed a big deal to the final cost.
Also in Ethiopia, the government likes your land, the government takes your land. Here in Kenya, we see any government project as an opportunity to hike the land price to make a killing.
There is also the issue of Railway stations.
Despite being 100 km shorter, Kenya is building 33 stations while Ethiopia is only building 18.
Information from Ethiopia is hard to come by, but we can assume that their main stations are not as big as what is been constructed in Nairobi or Mombasa.
There is also the locomotives. Kenya is buying more than double what Ethiopia has. Ethiopia will have 3 passenger trains and 32 freight trains to put it in plain language.Kenya on the other hand is buying 56 diesel locomotives to power 40 passenger coaches and 1620 freight wagons.
The average Chinese locomotive pulls between 8 and 20 passenger coaches, so we can calculate that Kenya’s SGR will have either 3 or 4 passenger trains (Almost same as Ethiopia).
But our freight trains will be about 50, or at least 18 more than Ethiopia.
Finally, there’s another little mentioned fact that makes Kenya’s SGR superior – double stack wagons. Unlike the Ethiopian trains, Kenyan freight train will be able to carry twice as many containers by stacking one on top of the other.

genieluv:
Heeeeyoo am back. Good to see that da insults n strong words have toned down

>>>> Lemme start by introducing u guys to some of Nigeria's fashion. Nigeria's fashion industry is really growing bigger by the day n i believe very soon we will start comparing with the likes of the new york fashion week>>>>
TayserMahiri, MtuMsuper, mtis, muafrika2, PissedYagami n co, pls i'd like to have an idea of Kenyan or east african fashion, i've never come across em before, tnks.

I like the positivity

PissedYagami:

This is a question that has refused to go away. Why has Ethiopia managed to build an electrified Standard Gauge Railway for less money than Kenya, whose SGR is not even electric?
The 750 km Ethiopia-Djibouti line was unveiled on Wednesday. It will link Addis Ababa to the Red Sea port city of Djibouti.
“This train will speed up the development of our country’s manufacturing industry and it will provide huge benefits to the industrial parks and modern farms that will be built in the future. It will give employment opportunities for our citizens,” Prime Minister Desalegn said at the launch ceremony

Travelling at 120km/h, the new service will cut the journey time down from three days by road to about 12 hours.
“We’re so excited! It takes two or three days for a truck to come from Djibouti,” said Ethiopian importer Tingrit Worku. “The train could make a huge difference.”
The $3.4 billion project was built by two Chinese companies and is the first to be electrified in Sub saharan Africa out of Zimbabwe and South Africa

Compare that to phase 1 of Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway. Its cost stands at Sh327 billion, almost the same as the Ethiopian line, but more than 100 km shorter.
That begs the questions: Has Ethiopia built an inferior line or is Kenya not getting value for money or is our money being stolen?
The answers are in the details.
First and foremost, it’s good to note that electric does not always mean superfast. The Ethiopian line is only 40km/h faster than the Kenyan line.
Furthermore, Ethiopia’s electricity generation is about to explode with the construction of the 6,000mw Grand Renaissance Dam , which will give the train service stable power supply. (Kenya Power comes to mind)
One of the main reason why the Kenyan line is expensive is the massive bridges some stretching kilometres. Unlike the iron fist government in Ethiopia, Kenya has to listen to all voices which led to allowances for wild animals in Tsavo and Nairobi National Park. These bridges have contributed a big deal to the final cost.
Also in Ethiopia, the government likes your land, the government takes your land. Here in Kenya, we see any government project as an opportunity to hike the land price to make a killing.
There is also the issue of Railway stations.
Despite being 100 km shorter, Kenya is building 33 stations while Ethiopia is only building 18.
Information from Ethiopia is hard to come by, but we can assume that their main stations are not as big as what is been constructed in Nairobi or Mombasa.
There is also the locomotives. Kenya is buying more than double what Ethiopia has. Ethiopia will have 3 passenger trains and 32 freight trains to put it in plain language.Kenya on the other hand is buying 56 diesel locomotives to power 40 passenger coaches and 1620 freight wagons.
The average Chinese locomotive pulls between 8 and 20 passenger coaches, so we can calculate that Kenya’s SGR will have either 3 or 4 passenger trains (Almost same as Ethiopia).
But our freight trains will be about 50, or at least 18 more than Ethiopia.
Finally, there’s another little mentioned fact that makes Kenya’s SGR superior – double stack wagons. Unlike the Ethiopian trains, Kenyan freight train will be able to carry twice as many containers by stacking one on top of the other.

rubbish, so does that justify high cost of it for a project of which 90% of the total cost was payed and sourced from China ,for a poor country like Kenya?,how about Abuja-kaduna sgr(198km) which cost $860 millions (not billions?), kenya - Mombasa (400km) cost a whopping $3.84 billllllllllioooooooooons.!!!!!
the whole of Nigeria sgr projects contract for the 2, 733km (now 3053km )new Lagos - Kano rail was first awarded by former Presidential Olusegun Obasanjo in 2006 at a cost of $8. 3bn to the Chinese company ( CCECC ) but could not be executed due to paucity of funds. but now going on and now $11.1billions with addition extension of calabar section and port Harcourt...kenya is damn doomed my friends , please stop comparing stations with actual construction any body can build such ,all u need is good architects and builder

CocoMilian:

What makes you say so

You've changed.

68816419:

rubbish, so does that justify high cost of it for a project of which 90% of the total cost was payed and sourced from China ,for a poor country like Kenya?,how about Abuja-kaduna sgr(198km) which cost $860 millions (not billions?), kenya - Mombasa (400km) cost a whopping $3.84 billllllllllioooooooooons.!!!!!
the whole of Nigeria sgr projects contract for the 2, 733km (now 3053km )new Lagos - Kano rail was first awarded by former Presidential Olusegun Obasanjo in 2006 at a cost of $8. 3bn to the Chinese company ( CCECC ) but could not be executed due to paucity of funds. but now going on and now $11.1billions with addition extension of calabar section and port Harcourt...kenya is damn doomed my friends , please stop comparing stations with actual construction any body can build such ,all u need is good architects and builder

The individual you quoted has no shame.He is pasting the excuse forced down their throat by the kenyan govt to mask serious corruption.

genieluv:


ma'am? Lol ***** Am in my early 20s, why should i be adressed that way?
Good 2know.
Is Kisumu the 3rd largest kenyan city?

genieluv:


ma'am? Lol ***** Am in my early 20s, why should i be adressed that way?
Good 2know.
Is Kisumu the 3rd largest kenyan city?

Lol! Sorry. I also felt it quite odd being addressed " sir" by a man who seemed old enouf to be my dad at the supermarket recently...

Anyway, Nakuru is tge third largest town in Kenya interms of the population. Kisumu is ranked fourth, that is according to the official ranking.

But those three towns: Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret have populations so close, people arent quite certain which city is actuall larger than the other. Some rankings would place Eldoret above Kisumu or Kisumu larger than both so.... :/

68816419:

rubbish, so does that justify high cost of it for a project of which 90% of the total cost was payed and sourced from China ,for a poor country like Kenya?,how about Abuja-kaduna sgr(198km) which cost $860 millions (not billions?), kenya - Mombasa (400km) cost a whopping $3.84 billllllllllioooooooooons.!!!!!
the whole of Nigeria sgr projects contract for the 2, 733km (now 3053km )new Lagos - Kano rail was first awarded by former Presidential Olusegun Obasanjo in 2006 at a cost of $8. 3bn to the Chinese company ( CCECC ) but could not be executed due to paucity of funds. but now going on and now $11.1billions with addition extension of calabar section and port Harcourt...kenya is damn doomed my friends , please stop comparing stations with actual construction any body can build such ,all u need is good architects and builder

You havent bothered even bothered to read that entire explanation by PissedYagami, instead basing your criticism on the last bit of his post above.

The terrain thru which the railtruck runs is very rough...the mountains and the valleys, not to mention the national parks and private farmlands etc, the govt had to put all these into consideration, thus the long bridges on massive columns running several kilometerd, tunnels thru tge mountains, land compensation etc.

The Ethiopian line, apart from being shorter, the terrain is not quite as jagged, and the land ownership system there is very different from Kenya's. So, they had no compensation issues to land owners. Does the railtruck run thru several, huge wildlife parks like Kenya's? Even if it does, does Ethiopian govt condone any opposition to its programs, like here in Kenya, where the wildlife activists successfully protested against the construction of a road thru a national park.

So the govt of Kenya had to placate both the sentiments of the land owners as well as the comservtionists, as well as tackle the hard, unforgiving terrain.

Hbuyosh:



You havent bothered even bothered to read that entire explanation by PissedYagami, instead basing your criticism on the last bit of his post above.

The terrain thru which the railtruck runs is very rough...the mountains and the valleys, not to mention the national parks and private farmlands etc, the govt had to put all these into consideration, thus the long bridges on massive columns running several kilometerd, tunnels thru tge mountains, land compensation etc.

The Ethiopian line, apart from being shorter, the terrain is not quite as jagged, and the land ownership system there is very different from Kenya's. So, they had no compensation issues to land owners. Does the railtruck run thru several, huge wildlife parks like Kenya's? Even if it does, does Ethiopian govt condone any opposition to its programs, like here in Kenya, where the wildlife activists successfully protested against the construction of a road thru a national park.

So the govt of Kenya had to placate both the sentiments of the land owners as well as the comservtionists, as well as tackle the hard, unforgiving terrain.

lol still trying hard to justify bullshit, now compare it with Nigeria with even worst terrains ?

TayserMahiri:


This is how a cargo station should look like, not like KUBWA

The Likes of Kubwa are meant for Nigeria. Even the Chinese know that

More proof,Naij architecture is simply unimpressive-very basic.

Kenyanstar:
The saddest think about all this thread is that it will be hitting 1000 and Nigeria has failed to show us anything worth writing home about..... If was a matter of comparison with lets say a country the equivalent of South Africa it would have been game over by the 10th thread. Even Somalia has better things to offer than this Nigerians. Anyway good lack trying to prove nothing worth my smile.

Sore loser.

68816419:

lol still trying hard to justify bullshit, now compare it with Nigeria with even worst terrains ?

I havent just mentioned the terrain.

68816419:

lol still trying hard to justify bullshit, now compare it with Nigeria with even worst terrains ?

the difference is , the Nigerian government does not care about anything nature.
Two , the Nigerian government is running Indian locomotives

Can't stop laughing

Just30:
Can't stop laughing

looll

Just30:
Can't stop laughing

Hahahaha Some people are really crazy.

Nowenuse:



Seriously it seems like these Kenyans have absolutely nothing else to show or offer other than that Chinese built railway project.
No wonder it has been named the biggest project since Kenyan independence.

Such a shame that the Chinese had to give them their biggest project for life!

Isn't the largest project in Nigeria being built by the Lebanese
Last I checked, our largest project is Konza Technocity, an initiative of the Government of Kenya